but he took down the tweet this morning, after government officials said they are waiting for proof. in their search, they've found several small objects, including a baby bottle. they also built a shelter with sticks and leaves. they'll keep looking until the location of the children is continuing. the news continues with "cnn prime time" with sara sidner now. thank you for joining me. governor ron desantis dismissing donald trump's candidacy days before he's set to make his own candidacy official. according to "the new york times," desantis is pitching donors by saying there are only three real contenders in the presidential race, himself, joe biden, and trump. but he says only two candidates have a chance at winning the presidency, and donald trump is not one of them. trump is of course a front runner so far, despite his election lies and mountain of legal troubles, one of which ended with the jury finding him

liable for sexual abuse. desantis is driving home his record of turning culture war issues into laws. then there's nikki haley and senator tim scott, calling for a return to true conservatism, without directly attacking donald trump. former vice president mike pence worked in the trump presidency but also became a target of it, said he too wants to return back to the party's original roots. and there are those presidential hopefuls and potential candidates who said trump should never step foot in the oval office again. that is where asa hutchinson, former new jersey governor chris christie, and new jersey governor chris sununu land. more candidates, with less name recognition, are also jumping in with various platforms. for his part, desantis travels to another early nominating state tomorrow when he visits new hampshire. here now, with his take on the

road to 2024, michael smerconish, host of "smir connish" here on cnn and of "the michael smerconish" program. desantis is saying donald trump can't win, but he and joe biden might. do you buy it? >> thanks for having me. ron desantis would seemingly have a strong hand, florida governor, well funded. he's got organizational support and a lot of endorsements. oh, wait a minute, maybe we've seen this movie before because all of those things were said about jeb bush, which i think just underscores how hard it is to handicap what's about to unfold. the pitch seems to be, you get donald trump's policies without donald trump's values. but what i keep thinking is that those so-called values of donald trump, the rough edges, the offensive statements that alienate so many, are also what

pack 5,000, 10,000 people into an arena for one of his rallies. so, even though a number of republicans, they say, i'd love to have trump's policies, i just don't want the other aspects of donald trump, i don't know that that drives out a vote. and you've got to drive out a vote to win. >> so, other candidates could jump into this race. do you think that that number of three people in this race will change and he will be more concerned about other contenders? >> you know, we talk a lot about the lanes, right? what are the differing lanes and who can occupy them? i look at this as like it's the 405 in l.a., an area i know you're familiar with. and it's like donald trump has all the lanes, and then there's an hov lane. and maybe ron desantis is in the hov lane. and you know if you've got an additional passenger, you get to go faster than everybody else in those other lanes. but it's hard for me to see any room at the end for anyone other than trump or desantis.

and according to all the polls, it's not just a one off. donald trump has, like, a 30-point lead over ron desantis right now. is that because desantis has not formally come out, because he hasn't responded to that which trump has said about him? or has trump already defined him in a way that's going to limit the appeal that desantis can ever have? i would love to sit here and make a bold prediction about what's about to unfold, but i really don't know. there are so many intangibles that none of us have a crystal ball. >> okay. here is something that could trip desantis up. disney is scrapping plans for a $1 billion office complex in orlando, which would mean 2,000 jobs that could have been in place in florida will not be there over this fight with desantis. will this hurt him? and has this really given you the idea that the republican party has really changed? >> so, i think that ron desantis

is making a wager here. if i want to look at this as a cold, political calculus, he thinks there's more potency in fighting the culture wars, right? because this was all retaliatory. you remember what happened. florida passes a law with the support of governor desantis that limits the ability of educators to teach about gender identity, and then disney comes out, a predecessor of bob igers, and they're critical of it. and immediately comes the retaliation by ron desantis attacking their ability to self-govern. it's very simple what transpired. i think what's happening is that ron desantis is making a wager, and he's saying, there's more political upside for me, at least among republicans, if i'm fighting the culture wars, even at the risk that i'm now no longer a pro-business gop candidate, which traditionally has been where the republican party has stood. you know, we are the party of business. we're for jobs.

we're for cutting taxes. now you've got a florida governor at odds with one of the most beloved, i still think, companies/corporations in the united states. that's a short-term play. maybe that wins in a primary among some voters. i find it hard to believe that it wins in a general. >> it's interesting because i don't think you'll find any governor, mayor, or politician anywhere that will tout something that lost them thousands, potentially, of jobs. we will have to see how this goes forward because certainly he is concentrating on the culture wars very, very harshly. michael smerconish, thank you so much. you always give really interesting insight. you can catch michael's show saturday morning on cnn. >> thank you, sara. now to another political fight. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is being accused of veiled racism after a shouting match with democrat jamaal bowman. the argument was over indicted

republican congressman george santos. >> the party has to kick him out. he's embarrassing y'all. the party is hanging by a thread. the party is hanging -- the party is hanging by a thread. >> impeach biden, itmpeach bide. >> the congresswoman suggested she felt physically threatened by bowman because he was a -- had a, quote, history of aggression. listen. >> what concerns me about jamaal bowman is he has a history of aggression. what's on video is jamaal bowman shouting at the top of his lungs, cursing, calling me a horrible -- calling me a white supremacist, which i take great offense to. that is like calling a person of color the n-word, which should never happen. calling me a white supremacist is equal to that, and i am concerned about that. i feel threatened by him.

>> she was likely harkening back to this incident last month. >> -- white supremacy, we are pushing back against that in all its forms. marge si tail green needs to take her ass back to washington. >> this was congressman bowman's response to what green has said. >> unfortunately, this country has a history of characterizing black men who are outspoken, who stand their ground, and who push back as being threatening or intimidating. so, she's not even using a dog whistle. she's using a bull horn to put a target on my back. i never invaded her personal space. i was laughing and gregarious the entire time. how is that intimidating? unfortunately, white supremacists historically, this is what they do. >> here's why he's saying that. this is some important context you should know. green is the same person who

chased down a teenage survivor of florida's deadliest shooting who was on the hill avenue kating for gun control. watch. >> you don't have anything to say for yourself? you can't defend your stance? how did you get over 30 appointments with senators? >> and this february, greene spoke at a white nationalist conference organized by well-known white supremacist nick fuentes. let's bring in eric diggins, alina treen, jamal simmons, former communications director for vice president harris. i'm going to start with you, jamal. can we just call out the hypocrisy here? when you saw that, what did you see? it's not like it happened in the dark and nobody saw it but the two of them. you can see what's going on there. >> it wasn't the most sophisticated debate one ever saw on capitol hill.

we can all stipulate that. what was concerning was that congressman taylor greene would say that she felt threatened by someone, as you said, was laughing, was sort of gesturing, was in the middle of a crowd of people. she also said he's not smart. jamaal bowman has a doctorate in education, founded a school, led a school for ten years. it all, as he said, goes back to not just dog whistles, but these pretty loud, glaring calls to racism. and the thing about marjorie taylor greene, unlike george santos, who this is all kind of staged because of the george santos debate that was happening on the hill today, george santos is a fraud. i mean, everybody can sort of see he's not really who it is he pretends to be. marjorie taylor greene is not a fraud. she's exactly who she pretends to be, and she's scary. she's a christian nationalist, about 10% of americans according to prri believe america should be a christian nation only. and she said january 6 would be

our 1776 moment. so, somebody who before we had the violence of january 6th saw that as a moment for a new kind of america to be founded, i think she's a scary one out of the exchange that we saw today. >> i want to ask you, rena, what you made of that. and you can all jump in. this is a conversation. i want you to feel comfortable. but, you know, we know from reporting, from cnn and everyone else's reporting, that greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent democratic politicians in 2016 -- sorry, 2018, 2019, before she was elected to congress. and now she's making this accusation that just didn't seem credible. >> yeah, there's a lot to unpack here for someone who's sitting in a member of congress' post. it's almost shocking to me. i'm a two-time senior congressional staffer over a decade ago. but i'll tell you, this was fast how we got here. to see this kind of extremism

and a sitting member of congress weaponize their words on the regular. but what she thinks somebody else is doing, the tactics she employees are not just nonsense car length, it's dangerous, because it's what aboutism and it's wrapped up in racism. she doesn't reflect the views of white conservative women in this country. i submit to you that the more she continues this, we'll be able to see her real ambition. i think we see some of it. she does these events because she fund raises off of them. you don't see any of her colleagues, the ones that look like her, woman of the develop in the house chamber rushing to her defense. what i saw in that incident was a heated discussion between two colleagues. was it civil? i think it was. what it indicated is that she and many others also on the other side of the aisle -- i'm not going to say it's in equal amounts or the same way -- but by do see this declining civility in the body of congress. that is most dangerous for us

because that indicates higher levels of getting stuff done and higher dissatisfaction with congress. >> jamal, what do you make of this when you look at the tropes -- i'm sorry, eric. what do you make of the tropes -- >> jamal is a popular name today. >> eric, i apologize. >> it's a way cooler name than eric. >> but, you know, one of the things that struck me is that -- one of the things that we see with white supremacists is they do try to take on the mantle of issues that have worked for civil rights advocates, right? so, this idea trying to find a term that supposedly is offensive as the n-word and saying, well, they use that word against me, you know, that was something that was really troubling because the n-word, there's a reason why we don't say that word. i mean, there's a -- you can tell that that phrase white supremacist isn't the same as the n-word because we say white supremacy. we do not say the n-word.

and the n-word has a certain history that's wrapped up in the legacy of slavery. and that's also something that a lot of white supremacists want to avoid. they don't want to talk about the impact of hundreds of years of chattel slavery involving black people and the modern legacy of that. so, it's so odd to see her in one breath want to bat away the hypocrisy of criticizing someone who uses the same tactics she does, and then also trying to bat away the legacy of slavery and the weight of the n-word by trying to compare calling her a white supremacist, which is, you know, arguably -- which is arguably something you could accuse her of. and comparing it to something as terrible as the n-word. finally we're in a situation where i do feel like the problem is that people like her, her tactics, it can pull other people down to that level. and it really bothers me that a legislator, who seems, you know, as you said, really intelligent

and accomplished would be drawn into a shouting match with someone like that anyway. i think one of the things you have to realize is that you can't fight that same fight because all it does is bring you down to their level. >> you know what else it does, alaina? it sometimes is used in a different way. how much of this do you see when you see something like that? i certainly get the things from a whole bunch of different folks who will use that, ms. greene herself, to raise money. >> absolutely, absolutely. i think that's something that, to give marjorie taylor greene credit, she knows how to message on these things effectively. and she knows that it plays very well with the trump base and her base and the maga voters. and it's something i think we could likely see in some fundraising appeals. i also think that as this plays out, i mean, her jumping on this, holding a press conference today about the incident, and also distorting some of the

facts, i mean, i spoke with some of the my colleagues who were on the accepts of the capitol. they were there, they saw the entire interaction. they did not hear any of the words she described about the nastiness of it and calling her a white supremacist in that moment. we obviously saw the video of her doing it in new york. but that's something that her supporters love about her. and i think also at the same time, it's also -- she's not just, you know, as much as she is a far right member of congress and a very fringe member of congress, she also has a lot of sway within the republican party. >> she does now. >> she meets weekly with kevin mccarthy. >> after january, she's had a direct route to the speaker. >> she had it before. she's been meeting weekly with the speaker. she has a lot of power. it's fascinating to watch how she can monopolize on those moments like that. >> and the power flows directly from these conversatifrontation.

>> i'm sorry, i'm going long. rena, why doesn't the party take care of this, deal with her in the way in which she should be dealt with in a lot of people's minds? >> they can't do it because she's a celebrity now. that's the thing. she represents the growing, iconic right figure and it's not right. and it's not fair to the moderates. i'll be honest. but it has everything to do with money and stardom and she draws in small donors because she gets them excited. >> and she's got donald trump on speed dial. >> i know. thank you so much. next, a mysterious mystery is growing tonight. have four young children survived a deadly plane crash in the amazon jungle after more than two weeks? new findings could give clues the to their whereabouts. i'll speak to someone who survived a similar plane crash in this very area. ...designed smarter. like a smart cofoffee grinder -

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trail of clues. they were baby bottles, hair scrunchies, plastic wrappings, even an improvised shelter built with sticks and leaves. but today, confusion when the colombian president retracted the news they were found alive but insists hope remains. we do know that search efforts have been hurt by storms and extremely difficult terrain. my next guest knows all too well what the conditions were like. in 1995, mercedes johnson was one of four passengers who survived this crash that you're looking at in the mountains of colombia. 160 people were killed, including her parents. but she was found about a day later. mercedes, thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> all right. when you heard about this crash and then subsequently that there were four children alone somewhere in the jungle that may have made it out alive, what did

you think about what they are going through? >> my thoughts were just completely overwhelmed with grief for them, knowing that they must be scared, knowing that they must be terrified, but also with just my heart is just full of hope for them, to show the little clues that they left behind just shows how resourceful and how resilient they are. and if they're doing those things to try to find help on their own, that shows that they themselves have hope. and that's the most important thing at this point. >> and one of the children is only 11 months old. so, if they are still alive and doing all these things and leaving these things behind, it means the older children are taking care of that baby. i want to go back to your ibs dent. in 1995, you were traveling with your parents. can you take me back to that moment. i know it's har.

but the moment the plane went down, what you were experiencing when you realized, hey, i actually survived this? >> yes, it's one of those moments that when it was happening, i didn't think that we were actually going to crash. the pilots, without any sort of warning or announcement, suddenly pulled the nose of the plane straight up in the air. so, one moment, we were flying perfectly normal and the next moment, our plane is flying straight into the air and our backs are pressed against the back of the seat. everyone yelling and screaming and parents trying to calm down their children. i was sitting next to my father holding onto his hand. i could hear my mother praying, so hearing her praying out loud calmed me down. i was still terrified, but just focusing on her voice made me think, if she's not losing it, i'm going to fe ocus on her voi.

it wasn't until the next morning when i woke up in the wreckage with no recollection of what happened the night before, it took me 20 or 30 minutes to kind of piece all the things that had happened the night before in my brain to realize that we had never made it to the airport and that indeed i was in the wreckage of the flight that i was in just, you know, a few hours before. and when that realization came to me, it was like a movie, where everything was just tunnel vision. i didn't pay attention to anything or anybody else around me, and my main goal was just to get out of that plane as quickly and as safely as i could. and i was still scared, and i was terrified, but my number one goal was just survival at that point. >> so, your survival instincts kicked in. i want to say to you, i am so sorry you went through that. that is absolutely horrific. you finally realized what's happened, and you're in this jungle area. can you give us a sense of what

these children are going through, the conditions that they are dealing with at such a young age? >> well, at the altitude that they are , hopefully they're no cold. i know that in that region, the weather is very fierce. there's heavy rains. there's heat and humidity. but the good thing for them is that there's fresh water. there's tons of vegetation all around them, fruits and flowers and things that are edible that hopefully they're able to recognize what they can and cannot eat. and hopefully they're just having faith in each other. obviously they seem to be working like a little team together, which is just heartwarming for me to even think about if that would have happened to my children, how they would have reacted in that moment. and in my eyes, they're just heroes. and i'm thankful that they are being as resourceful as possible

to make themselves a little shelter and that they're leaving little trails. it's like they are leading people to find them. and that's what i'm praying for at this moment. >> mercedes ramirez johnson, thank you so much. i'm so happy that you survived and let us pray that those children do too. we appreciate your time here. >> thank you. we are learning more tonight about the health of longtime senator dianne feinstein. she's had more complications than previously disclosed. why the secrecy? next.

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new tonight, senator dianne feinstein suffered more complications from shingles than for publicly disclosed apparently. earlier in the day, the 89-year-old lawmaker told cnn it was a really bad flu. but later her office put a statement stating the senator disclosed she had several complications related to her shingles diagnosis. those complications included ramsey hunt syndrome and encephalitis. while the encephalitis resolved itself shortly after she was released from the hospital in march, she has complications from ramsey hunt syndrome. encephalitis in inin flammation.

we are back with our fantastic panelists. a lot of democrats and everyone, you know, looking, relieved to see her back. but they are side stepping questions about whether or not they want her to step down. and they're just sort of not making that clear. i'm going to start with you, jamal. why? >> listen, i think dianne feinstein is a giant, right? she's a big presence in california politics. i remember when she got elected with senator boxer in 1992. i was in college, and i remember that being a big moment. the year of the woman. it was a big, big deal. i think a lot of people like her a lot. also the senate has sort of been a home for geriatric care for a long time. i remember strom thurman was there and robert byrd was there. those guys were president pro tem of the senate. they were in line to be president of the united states if something happened, and they were not doing very well.

let's just put it like that, right? they weren't doing very well. so, when the men got in trouble, we sort of seem to give them a little bit of space. what's different about this moment is that the line in the senate is so narrow, the democrats have such a narrow majority. so, people are worried what happens to that senate majority if dianne feinstein can't show up. and we've had some instances of that occur, judicial appointments, control of the senate. her friends and allies are concerned. last thing i'll say, i don't know what the recourse is. if she doesn't re-zion, are they going to expel her? i don't think they're going to get the majority of people along with that. what's the recourse, we don't have one? >> i lived in the bay area for some time and lived in san francisco for some time and the whispering was happening behind the cameras where you couldn't see people who were saying, we just hope she can resign. what is actually happening? the only person i know for sure

i remember coming out was aoc saying, you know what? it's time. >> right. a couple of other house members, i should say, not senators. some democratic house members like congressman ro khanna also calling on her to resign. jamal made a very good point. the recourse here is very difficult. and i do think this is not a new issue. it's definitely seen a lot more attention because of her near three months out of the senate and the complications she's facing now. but this has been a conversation that has been held -- i've been covering capitol hill for years now among staff and people on capitol hill, just questions about her fitness for office. and it's a very difficult subject. and even this week, she returned last week to the senate. we've had some conversations with senator dick durbin. he's the chairman of the senate judiciary committee who had faced a lot of these issues when he's absent. and even he's saying, listen, it has to be her decision, but ec are niezing it's a tough one.

a lot of republican senators are saying the same thing. it's difficult to see what will happen. and increasingly we're hearing it will have to be her decision and come from her office. >> one thing i'm wondering about is the politics that surround this. if she resigns, then the governor of california appoints her replacement. and he has promised to appoint a black woman in that job. and we know that a well-known white politician, schiff, wants to run for that position. so, i'm wondering how much of this is her on cit-- and maybe f this is people don't want her to resign. i think there's been not enough transparency about all the different agendas at work here. and i'm concerned a lot of this is being placed on her where there may be other powerful democrats who don't want her to

resign either. >> is it hurting the party and hurting their power? >> for republicans, they don't have a leg to stand on here. if you look and you see grassley, you see mcconnell, you don't semen who are far behind the people on the other side. i have to say we are a system that protects the incumbent. dianne feinstein, we can applaud what she's accomplished. i can applaud the long track record of real success for her constituents. as a political strategist, i have advised numerous people, let's go out on top. think about your legacy here. to criticize her, i don't think it's ageist or sexist. it's being practical. it's saying you tried to work from home for a long time. you can't do that. you're not the private sector. you're representing people here. and the other part of this that i'll be interested in, as we go on -- we know we have a high life expectancy -- it's how we look at women in politics. look at nancy pelosi looking

good over there. look at dianne feinstein. when she doesn't look well, we come right out with knives. for men we don't talk about them. nancy, not far behind biden, in fact a year older than biden if i'm not mistaken. so, this is a situation that's a tough one, but she's got to go. it's not wrong to call for her to say, it's time, it's time. >> all right. thank you to all of you. eric, alana, jamal, rena. i am so happy you were here with me today. no one wants to hear me talk all this time. coming up next rapper fat joe is here on the set demanding laws be enforced. and he's demanding laws be enforced after an order from the trump administration. we'll explain. plus, is new york city saving? the warning from geologists is coming up. okay. i'll work on that.

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and 2023 combined. patients also don't know to ask for the information. one study found only 9% of adults were aware hospitals must disclose this information. there's a big disconnect between government data and private reviews. the official figure shows 70% compliance. but a survey by a patients rights group find only about a quarter are following the law. one of the highest profile people demanding change, an unlikely advocate. he is known for his dope rhymes and hooks, not patient advocacy. i'm talking about this guy. ♪ do the rock with it ♪ ♪ lean back lean back lean back ♪ >> fat joe, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me. it's an honor. >> so, i have a question. what is it that sparked your passion, because you are straight passionate about this,

to take on the hospitals because of this law? >> well, i have a friend, kevin moore, for over 20 years, and he's part of politics patients. he introduced me to a young lady named cynthia phish. and when she started breaking down the disparities between the people losing their homes and people losing their families and afraid to go to the hospitals, something just hit me. i'm from the south bronx and my people championed me and pushed me to get where i'm at, so i always think of them as the voiceless. this is something that always felt really, real elly deal to . i guess health care transparency is the thing that, the light bulb that went off in my head. >> you went to congress, you have -- this is something that is actually one of the few things that has bipartisan support. so, what's going wrong? tell people what's happening in

hospitals if they don't already know. >> you know, in the hip hop community, it's always the black and brown. this is the one thing that's the white, asian, ammish, native american, black, brown, whatever you call, this is bipartisan. so, people are losing their homes and losing their families. you just went out to the street right now, you would see how many men are hobbling across the street. there's a reason for that. they're afraid to go to the hospital because the prices are too high. and so what they do is they don't go for checkups. they don't fix it. and before you know it, they have serious issues. they wind up losing their homes. you know, nobody wins when the family feuds whch. when the family is arguing over money, some people don't know whether to do a hospital procedure or send their kid to college. this is scary stuff. i heard a story about a young lady in the amish community. she was supposed to have a

kidney transplant. but you know that when you go to the hospitals, they make you sign a waiver that says, if you don't pay the bill, they can take your property. so, her family were debating whether to get a kidney transplant or they might be giving up the farm. so, this is all over america. and this is a law already. so, it's not -- you don't have to reinvent the wheel. the law is there. you just have to enforce it. and we saw when they enforced it, the first two hospitals were compliant immediately. so, we know that this works, and all they've got to do -- and i never thought fat joe the rapper would be saying, enforce the law, but i am right here. >> i was going to ask you about that. you have gone looking at what's happening, and i want to give you a statistic. i started looking at this as well. you sort of inspired me to go, okay, let me check this out. in 2019, there was a study that was put out, and it was published in a medical journal.

and it said that bankruptcy, that people are going bankrupt, it is the number one reason why people are going bankrupt, medical bills. >> 100 million americans in medical debt. that's one in every three. this is young, this is middle ways, this is old. at the same time, you think about how many people in your family and friends you know are going to medical procedures now. so, to simplify it, we just want to know the prices. you got burger king, you got mcdonald's, you got carvel, you got baskin and robins. we just want to know because there are some hospitals charging people $300 for an mri and charging $2,600 to other patients. i want to know the difference between the prices. maybe i can shop here. maybe the hospital down the road has a better price. just bring transparency to the

prices so the people can feel comfortable to go in there in the first place. because are not -- you've got women avoiding go to the hospital. they work two, three jobs, then it turns into stage iv breast cancer. these are facts. i mean not just throwing this out the sky. this is happening in america to all americans out there. >> you mentioned you're from the south bronx, and this is a place that is one of the poorest urban congressional districts in the united states. you talk about this affects everybody. but it specifically hurts black and brown communities. it specifically hurts people who don't have a lot of funds, who are making choices between groceries and, like, going to get their medical care. what do you want to say to the hospitals and to the patients, when it comes to enforcing this law. what do you want to see? >> well, i could tell the hospitals i'm a capitalist. i like to make money. when is enough enough? how much profit do you need?

at whose expense? there's people in the hospitals all over america right now watching right now, sitting in the bed, getting taken advantage of. so, something's going to happen. there's ideal time has come. i believe that -- i believe in people power. i believe it's bigger than any ideology. and i just say, yo, enough's enough, man. just let the people know what the prices are. have a heart. you know, we started out talking about this behind the scenes. i loved your passion during covid when you were just talking about what was going on, how many people were affected, how many people were passing away. and we've just got to have a heart. when isn't it about profit and it's about the people? >> wow. that's a really strong message. thank you so much, fat joe. >> thank you so much. >> i do want to say, i don't know, they might need to start calling you slim joe. i see you. >> hey, i'm trying to stick around. >> i appreciate you. thank you. >> thank you so much. it is a sinking feeling. according to scientists, new

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guess what, new york city, it's sirnging, that alarming warning comes from a new geological study that says the weight of the big apple's skyscrapers is to blame. the city has more than a million buildings, and they add up to about 1.7 trillion pounds according to researchers at the university of rhode island. how fast are we sinking? about 1 to 2 millimeters a year, which for context is about the width of a nickel. it doesn't sound like much, does it, but experts say the catastrophic effect is already underway. some climate experts estimate that lower manhattan and parts of long island of the coast there could be under water in less than 80 years. chief climate correspondent bill weir is here. bill, i'm depressed. >> don't be. >> okay, i'm a little out of sorts here. >> i understand. >> we hear about the skyscrapers and we all go 1.7 trillion,

that's a lot, but what's the real issue here beyond them? >> well, this is happening in the age of sea level rise, as a coastal city, that complicates things. if you're going down while the water's coming up, right? coastal cities this is happening around the world. it happens for different reasons. it's the weight of the buildings. it's where they're built. if it's built on fill dirt where the world trade center was originally built on that. parts of staten island sink, there's ground water pumping that causing the ground to shrink as well. what is happening in cities means it could be up to four times more extreme. say it raises six inches in a stable area, that's two feet in a city, and when yo u've got al the infrastructure around that. they're seeing sunny day floods, king tide floods in miami. it's a huge headache. it's not the thing you see in a devastating hurricane where families are pushing their things, but slowly by slowly it

creeps, yeah. >> last time i checked there's a lot of construction. there's some video. that is not new york right now! that might be the remnants of superstorm sandy. >> that is from sandy, yeah. i just wanted to let people know, that's not happening right now. that's from sandy, but there is, you know, no shortage of construction going on in the city as far as i can see. so what are we going to see in the future? what might be done here? >> you can't imagine that something like this would stop development, especially in a dense place like this, but what we're already seeing, the u.s. army corps of engineers is working on a plan to build seawalls around new york city. they have different scenarios. it's sort of in the public comment phase. they've got a couple of years to figure out the plan. in my neighborhood, i live in brooklyn, this is dumbo. all this was under water during superstorm sandy. they are now raising, fortifying the east river bank there in case it floods again. this is one of the most haunting pictures of that. >> beautiful. >> but it's eerie to think when

my son is my age and old enough for a mortgage, that our floodplain might be condemned in that way. now it probably won't be. there's a lot of time and a lot of space to rebuild around, but this is yet another conversation to get us thinking about adap adaptation. the world we grew up in is gone now. we've got to get ready for the next one. the more sort of adaptation, the less pain long-term. >> the venetians did it in a very different way s. >> we're really good at adapting and it's time to start thinking about it. >> always a pleasure. next on "cnn tonight." walgreen's is paying san francisco. al and president biden and world leaders about to kick off the g-7 in hiroshima. his arrival is just moments away. ♪ centrum silver is now clinically shown to support cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of y your health.

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at this hour, president biden and world leaders are kicking off the g-7 summit in hiroshima, japan, site of the wo world's first atomic bomb attack. crucial issues are on the table including how to arm ukraine in its war against russia. the gathering comes under the shadow of a looming debt crisis in the united states that could potentially send the global economy into a tail spin. that is where we are right now, thank you so much for joining us. "cnn tonight" with alisyn camerota starts right now. hey, alisyn. >> yes, it does, thank you very much. great to see you. good evening, everyone, i'm alisyn camerota, welcome to "cnn tonight." senator dianne feinstein has been sicker than we thought. we're learning she also had encephalitis meaning brain inflammation. the 89-year-old senator has been