tuning in to this hour we bring you tomorrow's news tonight. we have got our great lineup of reporters here to with me tonight. jeremy deal island, -- miguel marquez, and sara fischer, great to have all of you here on the couch. so we begin with the body camera footage of yet another mass shooting in america, this one in new mexico. the video you are about to see is of course disturbing, you are going to hear a lot of gunfire, and this shows the moment a police sergeant in northern new mexico is shot after responding to the scene. [sound of gunfire] >> i'm shot. [sound of gunfire] >> this happened monday in farmington after an 18 year old high schooler shot nine people in his neighborhood, killing

three of them. let's go first to cnn's josh campbell has been covering the story. josh, thank you for being here. walk us through what we just saw on that video. >> yeah, so please hold press conference earlier today and the chief described this mass shooting as an assault on his community after this 18 year old just opened fired on this neighborhood indiscriminately. they walked us through the timeline, it started when 79-year-old surely -- was driving through the neighborhood, the suspect opens fire out of nowhere. she falls out of her vehicle, police say the two other elderly women were driving by, they stopped direct and aid. they were fatally shot. he continues on this, rampage and i warn our viewers that what you're about to see is disturbing. we see please gathering together, forming what is called a contact team. they see the shooter, they are tracking him, this is a moment that they openly take him down. watch. >> get back inside.

let's see your hands. [bleep] [sound of gunfire] i'm good. [sound of gunfire] sergeant down. >> now listen, two officers shot in that exchange of gunfire. this is the latest example underscoring the dangerous nature of this profession. it is important to point out that we are coming up on one year since that fatal shooting in uvalde, texas. obviously a colossal failure by law enforcement in texas, families there who are still demanding transparency from the police. as you look at all these other examples across the country, it's important to point out that, whether it is san jose california, louisville, nashville, duncanville, texas, allen, texas. now the latest new mexico, we see officers disregarding their own safety to try to stop this gunman. that is what we see here in new mexico, it's really chilling video. >> i'm so glad you point that out. since uvalde, we've seen so many acts of bravery of course

on the part of police, which they do every day. so, you josh, ask the police chief about the arsenal of weapons that the suspect had. do you know how he got them, do you know if any family members could be charged here? >> yes, a police say that they are still looking into the motive. the suspect's family, they said that he had some kind of mental health issues. that is what we hear time and time again, in so many of these shootings. the question is, if they knew that he had mental health problems, how was he able to obtain these weapons? we are told that two of the weapons, police say, were owned by a family member. one weapon that he had was an air 15 that he bought just about a month after his 18th birthday. now, as you mentioned, asked the police to full other family members, whoever owns those guns, part of that arsenal that this suspect had access to, could they be charged and the police chief told me that, at this point, they are not planning to charge anyone else but there are continuing to gather information. he says that everything right now is on the table. that is important to note because, as we see in so many of these cases, police will obviously go after the gunman, the suspect, but we have seen a

greater effort by police and prosecutors to also look at who helped equip these people. if they knew they were issues, if they knew that this person could be dangerous and deadly, how could they give them access to weapons. certainly a major question this? case >> josh, thank you very much for all of that. jeremy, i want to turn to you because president biden has come out and talked about how exasperated he is, as everybody is, with the state of all of these mass shootings. has he done everything. he is called on congress to act, as he's done everything that he can in his executive action power? >> that is what the president says, and when you look at what the president, let's talk first about what he's actually done in guns. he did signed that bipartisan safer communities, act which was the most significant piece of legislation on gun its in several decades. it incentivized red flags, it funded mental health funding for states, and the president has assigned nearly two dozen executive orders on. this, but this is also a president who described the issue as a crisis. and he says that he is now reached the extent of his

executive action. every time on these shootings happen, we do see him come out with a statement, a very forceful statement, but across the white house on this before. you feel like you are using the bully pulpit the fullest extent. to the fullest extent for something that you described as an ongoing crisis in america. i think it is clear that, look, one when the shootings happens, it gets in the news. you hear the president talk about, but you're not seeing him go out there day in and day out talking about it in a way that you might with something that you described as a crisis. >> okay, let's talk about something else that people are calling a crisis, and we talk about this every night here, but i am looking forward to giving you an update so that we can get out of this vicious cycle. the -- >> two more weeks. >> the debt ceiling, where are we? >> look, both sides seem to be coming out today and saying that they do see progress. the talks are happening now at a high level between top white house officials and deputy to the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy. the thing is also that this is still looming over president

biden right now. he is currently abroad in japan, and you already see reporters asking him questions about this. but, interestingly, what you also heard was the senior him in a straight of official in a briefing with reporters off are pretty blunt assessment of the impact that this is having on the united states standing in the world. he said, this debt clm brinkmanship that republicans are driving in d.c. undermines -- that america can bring not just to our allies and partners, but to the rest of the world. and so when you think about that, the president has talked previously about the impact that default would have on the uss standing, abroad but clearly already just the threat, the very logjam in washington d.c. is already having, according to the senior administration official, an impact on the u.s.'s ability to lead. nonetheless, the president does have an opportunity tomorrow, or actually a few hours from now in japan, to show that u.s. leadership is still there. and he's going to do that on ukraine in particular. on that, he has got a series of

new sanctions. 300 new sanctions on russia for its role in ukraine, export controls, all of this in coordination with those g7 allies. the united states really have been central to those efforts to do those things. >> these are live pictures right now of the president in hiroshima, japan. as you guys know, he had to cut to some of this trip short because of the debt ceiling crisis. so, it is interesting to hear jeremy talk because there are these big crisis from gun violence to the debt ceiling, and even as the president of the united states, can only do so much. >> that tough balance between trying to manage all of the domestic problems and foreign affairs, when he is at a g7 conference like this, they are not thinking about what is happening to our gun crisis or mental health crisis and, ufc is forced to pivot and think about all the other things. the war in ukraine, tensions with china, et cetera. and to balance those two agendas is really hard, especially when congress is not really working with you to get a lot. and you have a bipartisan split, it becomes very difficult.

i will add that the debt ceiling, potential crisis of this, is looming over this trip and the sense that it will impact all of these other countries. i know that it's something that foreign leaders are very much watching, very closely, because if the government default on its debt, which would be the first time in history that ever happened, it would have economic impacts across the globe. and so it is something that i think is undermining this trip in some, ways and also undermining some of the conversations with other foreign leaders. >> you think that decision of him to cut the trip short is telegraphing that something is coming, or is that just telling the world that we are taking this seriously? >> it's both, and that was one of the things that we have heard from white house officials in terms of why he kept the trip short. it shows a u.s. commitment, it shows biden's commitment to ensuring that the u.s. is creditworthiness going forward and the financial stability of the global economy. but it also signals that this is a deal that will come down

to joe biden and kevin mccarthy. i had a new piece today -- >> you have new reporting on the relationship, tell us about that behind the scenes? >> look, this is a relationship that is going to make this deal. as of now, it is a largely untested relationship. and underdeveloped relationship. these are two men who are from different generations, or ideologically opposed, and do not have any of the personal chemistry that joe biden and, say, mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader have. because they have not spent decades together in congress. and, frankly, senator roger wicker he summed the relationship up well. he said that while it would help that mccarthy and biden were golf buddies, but they are not. and they were never going to be. and that is where things stand. personal relationships are not everything, i think that the two leaders understand the stakes of this for the global economy, but nonetheless, this is washington and relationships do matter. and, also interestingly, these are two men who really thrive

on the idea that politics is personal. we have seen kevin mccarthy take that approach in the house, that we've seen president biden take that approach with congress, and also with foreign leaders. and, yet here we are at a moment where this is going to come down to these two men who do not know each other all that well. that being said, this quick point, the first meeting that they had a week ago over the debt ceiling it was pretty frosty. there were sharp exchanges between the two of them. but i am told that this latest meeting was far more cordial between the two men and that both sides seem interested in resolving this. >> it is interesting that you said that they are both these people who prize their personal relationships and who are extroverted and yet energy from the politicking of it all, and so if they are stylistically the same, they should be able to have a close relationship if they are similar in that way. >> but they also have a lot at stake with their own parties. kevin mccarthy is not just doing this with biden, he has to take this package and sell

it to his party, including a lot of very conservative members,. we saw the caucus today issued a statement that they should not be negotiating at all, and that they should be passing the bill that republicans passed and biden is having that problem on the left as well with democrats in his party saying that you should consider the 14th amendment and not budge on negotiations. i think that is the key, here it is not just these men in the room or an echo shading, it is their entire parties you have to pass. this >> there is no scenario where four, five, six centrist republicans come over to democrats, where they can force a vote. >> that's plan is easy, and that is something that the house minority leader, hakeem jeffries has set up. he has set up this process for discharge petition, which would essentially bypass the speakers control of the floor, allowing them to bring up a bill. but it is a highly, highly unlikely scenario and really kind of a last-ditch situation if we come to june 1st and there is no deal, perhaps they try that. but, discharge petitions are rarely, rarely successful.

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for us. this feud has just gotten. rio been feuding and there's been a war of words about now this has real world impact on real employees and real money for the state. is governor desantis now rethinking this a feud? how is a reacting? >> he is leaning in, and he is not shying away from this fight with disney. i know from even talking to some of his advisers that it is something that he is also planning to continue to rail against on the campaign trail. but a spokesperson for desantis released a statement tonight. it reads, you've basically three people at this point that are credible in this whole thing. mr. -- i'm sorry, i think we have the wrong statement. here i have a copy. the right statement from the spokesperson is that it said disney announced the possibility of a campus nearly two years ago, nothing ever came of the project, and the state wasn't sure if it would come to fruition given the company's financial straits, falling market costs, and declining stock price.

it isn't surprising that they would restructure their business operations and cancel unsuccessful ventures. so, that is from desantis's team. again, leaning into this fight. and really, where this all stems from, it is going way back now, back to 2020, 2021, when desantis obviously, culture wars the big thing that he leans into, a lot of this has to do with him railing against wokeness, thinking that disney is promoting thinks that children should not be learning about, similar to what he talks about learning in the classrooms. and it also goes to disney having their own little tax island in florida, something that he is very against and finds to be unfair. and it really is coming to a head today, and we saw that with disney deciding that they are going to close this down. one other thing that i will point out, though, just on the disney side of it is i was talking with our colleague

steve -- who have been following this case very closely, and we were saying that we think a lot of this is also disney scapegoating desantis for this. >> so they really were not going to go through the office building? >> that's what it appeared to be. they fired their old ceo last year and this was kind of his project, and then bob iger is back in his chief executive and he has been against this project for a long time, and so, i think some of this is really being able to use the politics with desantis and the animosity between disney and florida, or florida republicans i should say, as a way to sort of slightest with how political it is, part of this decision. >> a bigger picture, i cannot imagine this helps. he did well with the do not say gay stuff and got to support together down there, but going after -- just the business spend the money alone, how big disney is for florida, i cannot imagine that most floridians think that this is a really great idea.

>> it's true, not just with floridians, another big floridian in politics, donald trump, he issued a statement on this railing against ron desantis saying that it was not a good idea and that he made a mistake, he is an error with. as this trump statement reads, let me make sure i have it, he says, today, ron desantis single-handedly lost the state of florida nearly one billion dollars in investment and over 2000 jobs, with an average salary of $120,000 because he was too weak to fight for the state. ron desantis has a failed war on disney has done little for his limping shadow campaign, and is now doing even less for florida's economy. so, donald trump agrees with you. >> let's be honest, here if trump had pick this fight, it be saying a very different -- he would've gone all the, way in the same way that desantis has. to me, i say that because this whole desantis disney fight really tells you everything

that you need to know i love the evolution of the republican party. what do you think about the republican party of ten, 15, 20 years, ago it was the party of a business, the pro business party. and yes, of course there is always that culture wars aspect, but now that culture wars aspect has taken over the party entirely and completely pushed aside this pro business mindset, and i think that this disney desantis fight is emblematic of that. >> it has also changed corporate america, because it used to be that if you would create jobs, especially at the local, level you are heralded in politics. and now disney employs 80,000 people in florida and that is not enough for ron desantis, just because disney railed against him for one bill. that is a completely different ball game for corporate america. we had to deal with different companies, during the trump era, one tweet could send your entire stock -- this indicates that no matter who is going to be in the presidency, in the nomination for the republican party, whether it is desantis or,

trump the party is no longer the pro corporate party, jeremy diamond, and that is a huge corporate shift in america. >> it's desantis about to launch his presidential campaign in earnest? >> yes, we have new reporting on this, actually. he is -- >> perked up. we >> have new reporting. he is expected to enter, formally enter the presidential race next week. our sources are telling us that he is expected to file with the fec, which is really the most tangible way that you can do this and soft launch his campaign in his hometown in florida as well. this is a huge development, obviously everyone is already been referring it to ron desantis as donald trump's biggest competitor in the 2024 race and treating him like he is already in the race, but this is going to change. things i know when i spoke to some people on his team that because he is not running for president officially he's actually been holding back on some of his attacks against

donald trump, as much as donald trump has been criticizing him fiercely, repeatedly, he has done so, or defended himself in a more veiled way. we have seen him ramp up, though. >> why hold back? >> there's so much time. >> a part of it was that, because he still governor, because he's trying to show, one of his big things, ron desantis says big things was that he needed to finish out the policy term as governor before he formally launched. i think that he wants to have a very hard shift to campaign desantis versus governor desantis. and i do think that we are going to see a lot of this get more nasty very quickly. >> quickly, for these two contenders, what does the delta between the two? is donald trump that far ahead of polling and then desantis, are the two of them that far ahead? >> don't trump is definitely the front runner. he is pretty far ahead in polling, and then right behind

him, will not right behind, but a second is ron desantis. i do not have the numbers with me, but he is not trailing too far behind donald trump, but there is a good gap there. but and then nikki haley, mike pence, -- >> around 6%. >> much lower down in the polling. so they are really seen as the two people who will be vying for this. and i do think that it is still so early, so you cannot rely that heavily on polls right now, not, i do think that ron desantis getting into the race, being on the campaign, trail it is going to be very interesting to watch. especially because if you look at what he has done in florida, he's really been able to control the media narrative around him. he has created a bit of an echo chamber with who -- the interviews that he gives. that is not going to fly on the national stage, and that's gonna be a very difficult thing that he has to face. >> it'll be interesting to see, if you are right that he is ramping up his attacks on donald trump, when he is ready to do. that all right friends, thank

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big victories for big tech, the supreme court shielding twitter from liability over accusations that did aided and abetted terrorism when it hosted tweets greeted by ices. that decision was unanimous, the court also dismissed a case

against googled out argued that youtube, which google owns, used algorithms to promote ices of videos to users. legal experts had warned that these two lawsuits could have up ended the internet as we know it. sir is here to explain what all this means. what does this mean for our lives, these decisions? >> honestly, it means the life is going to stay the, same which is probably pretty good. the supreme court, i was shocked even was going to look at these cases because the role of the supreme court is to interpret complex laws. this law is not complex, it is 27 words and it basically says that tech platforms are not liable for third-party content on their platforms. if the congress would ever reverse this law, which is really what is going to probably happen. the supreme court is not deciding to put this out of the court system, congress would have to pass a new, law and they are so far from that they do not have to replace it. but if they were to, changed what would it mean for us? it would dramatically change our lives. think about how many things you use online where you are looking at content that other

people post. trump advisor, checking out food on yelp, reviews for hotels, even comment sections on his website. all that would likely go away because these companies do not want to get sued in case somebody puts up a terrorist content, or something else. so, for now, the internet remains the same as we know it. but the fact that we are even having this conversation sort of shows you that all the people that make our country work, policies, regulators, they are thinking about how we might have to change. it >> don't always talk about how we do want better content moderation because we are all seeing horrible things that they should not be seeing. >> we are, and where this is going, alison, is that instead of trying to do it with a blunt force, meaning it just get rid of a law dramatically, can we implement small changes, small laws, that would incentivize or push tech companies to make their content moderation stronger? one of the things that congress is talking about a lot is could we pass a bills that forced tech companies to be more transparent about their algorithms. then maybe we could moderate

content better, but we are not shielding them from the liability that protects their business models and allows us to use internet as it. is that is the direction we are going. >> how much money do these companies spend actually moderating the content? if the ideas to incentivize, they must not be doing enough. >> they spend a lot, but the problem is that it is a small amount compared to how much to make in profits. if you take a company like a metaphor,, example typically if you're looking at how much revenue they bring in a, year it is like 130 billion dollars. google is even bigger than that, over 200 billion dollars. so yes, companies like that have tens of thousands of people who are working on safety and security. but that is a tiny little portion of the money they bring, in and i think that is why people who are frustrated that big tech is not doing enough are mad, because they are saying, yes, i know you're doing a lot, but you could be doing more. >> the bad actors are those people who on that content, they are always around that. at the end of the day, people are not, people who want to use the internet for ill will and

illegal gains are going to do that. >> yes, i appreciate you saying, that because i think it has been frustrating to me is that a lot of bills in congress are designed to kill a few platforms which is meta and google. if you take a look at where a lot of the bad actors are moving, it is to these small niche platforms like a telegram or discord. >> exactly, so all these laws are not even addressing some of those platforms, were a lot of the nefarious activity is moving. so my hope is that congress can start to think about this from a more holistic perspective. passing laws that would apply to most tech companies, instead of going after just two big ones. not because they should not be held accountable, that because that doctors, to your point, are in other places too. >> sarah, tell us about how we have a window into some of the dysfunction in twitter. >> another hot topic. all i feel like we've been talking about for the past six months is just the chaos that is unfolding at twitter under elon musk's reign. but, today, there is a big update. a lawsuit from six former

employees, essentially calling out elon musk for creating a culture in which twitter was not being held accountable financially for a lot of its bills. let me read you one of the statements from this lawsuits, it's pretty damning. point of, hawkins mother people who are suing twitter, is forced to resign after musk and his transition team fundamentally change the nature of her job and profession -- threatened her professional reputation by directing twitter to breach its leases, and essentially steal space for landlords. elon musk does not pay rent, one member of the transition team told hawkins, the plaintive. another member of the transition team put it more bluntly. they said elon told me he would only pay rent over his dead body. >> elon musk does not pay rent? why? >> that is because elon musk is running a company that is hemorrhaging ad revenue right now. it is marked down by fidelity, it is losing more than half of, value because the business is crumbling under elon musk. i'm hopeful that the business

can return to an upswing, i mean they just hired a brand-new ceo who is credible, and elon musk is a talented entrepreneur. but, at the end of the day, it does not excuse not being able to pay rent, not paying vendors, and these are all things that we have been tracking that have been going on for months. >> landlords do not care about the business and whether you -- >> eat a billionaire, if you cannot pay rent. he's one of the richest man in the world. >> but you know, what he can also go raise money. i reported a few months ago that and manual and is a company endeavor holdings was one of the companies that had invested in twitter, on to became private. we do not know which other companies or investors might be investing in elon musk, but that is the thing when you are a private company. yes, you might be having financial struggles, skull raise more money. so i think trudeau right now is in this weird spot, where yes, they've got a lot of lawsuits, but this is what elon musk does. lawsuits are part of his business model. he takes, risky does crazy things, he takes the force of the lawsuit, you raise more money, and it goes away. >> but you still to pay. rent >> runs are coming down in

san francisco as well. >> doesn't he not have a permanent address? >> right now he is sleeping at twitter, pretty much. >> he couch serves, maybe he's trying to apply that strategy. twitter >> may bring up one more thing that came on the lawsuit, today which was wild. he said that musk wanted to add a bathroom next to his office so that he did not have to wake up his security team and cross have the floor to use the bathroom in the middle of the night. in one regard, i guess the security is tier security team. >> who is trying to kill him in his office? >> i think there's a lot of paranoia. he's laying off tons of people, he is doing things that is putting people in precarious positions that they are suing, him so does not shock me that he's bringing security with him wherever. goes but i think one loss of points, two and what that quote points, two is the fact that the culture within twitter is chaos right now. not paying bills, people suing the company, again i am hopeful that they can get, better but it, all that we are just going to have a lot of fun watching it. >> i think if you are hiring security to protect yourself from your employees you might

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>> cities are still scrambling to place asylum seekers who have suddenly showed up in their neighborhoods. more than a dozen new york counties issuing states of emergency in response to new york city's plans to relocate

migrants outside of city limits. but miguel marquez has we talking to people all over the country who want and need immigrants in their communities. so, miguel, tell us where these communities are and what are they saying to you. >> for all the chaos on the border, the reality is is that this country needs more migrants, more immigrant labor. so, if you look at the midwest, mainly -- ohio, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, minnesota -- there is enormous need for workers they are. and a lot of these places -- mahoning valley, youngstown, this was a place that was hit so hard when manufacturing went away. they are now projecting that they are going to need 20,000 workers in the next ten years or so. and it's in unskilled but also skilled workers they're looking for -- and one of the things they're doing is going to the immigrant community, migrant community, and trying to find workers there, advertising for workers both overseas and people who may be here. now the problem with all of this is that the visa situation

is just very, very difficult for them to overcome. and as the political class focuses on the chaos of the border, it makes it much more unlikely that -- >> let's talk about this, miguel. because, in other words, undocumented migrants who show up, seeking asylum or not, or -- can they be useful in these communities right? now >> they could not, unless they have some sort of way to work at some point, unless there is some sort of pathway to work. keep in mind, half -- what? 12 million illegal immigrants in this country right now, about half of them came in over the border illegally, entered somewhere illegally. the other half came in legally, overstayed their visas and are just here. so, what chambers of commerce and companies say is that they need more migrant labor laborers, more people to do the sort of work, both skilled and unskilled. there is a company in minnesota that is looking for mexican workers with four-year degrees to do higher and agriculture

stuff, animal husbandry -- i love seeing animal husbandry -- >> say it as much as you want here. >> there's a great need for both skilled and unskilled workers. >> okay. why doesn't governor abbott sent buses of migrants -- and identities are not necessarily document -- but while they wait for their asylum process, why doesn't he send them to -- >> they are sending -- buses are going to cities everywhere, not just new york. but they can't work, legally. that's a federal issue. so, the federal government would have to change those roles. that would have to be a massive change in the way that we allow migrants to come to this country and get work visas and do the sort of stuff that companies and states need. >> i understand. as we know, there are some asylum -- people have filed for asylum, and then they are out, on the street. or wherever, in the community, awaiting the adjudication process. and that can sometimes take months or --

>> years. >> and they need to work and companies need workers. so, maybe during that waiting time congress could do something -- >> good luck. >> me and alayna, we're talking about this before. this is the muscle broken. it's something that republicans and democrats recognize that they need to reform the immigration system and that they need to do it in a massive way -- and of course we saw a lot of attention over this over after title 42 was lifted last week, with some changes, but lifted last week. the problem is that they are so far apart. because to get anything bipartisan these days, specifically, something like immigration reform, that has been -- it's been the issue that has plagued every party, every congress for years now. they just can't find a way to do this. but it is so necessary. and miguel is right, this is the h-1b visa process, the whole visa process has long been very broken. and there is a lot of other

things they need to deal with as well. but i know for my conversations with people in congress, as much as they want to try to do, it they are very far from having anything. >> and the country's aging, all the states are aging. minnesota, for instance -- right now about over 80% of the working age population there is foreign born. 60% -- >> is that right? >> 60% is native warn, of the working age population of minnesota, and minnesota is looking at years ahead, going, we are going to need a lot more workers. and it would be very easy just to say, oh, well here is a huge number of workers who are more than willing to do it. but it's going to take federal laws that will be very hard to do, because of that chaos, because it has become such a hot political issue. i don't see how they get it done. >> jeremy, isn't it interesting. because you know, republicans give president biden a lot of grief about this. but in many ways, his policies now -- since title 42 expires -- are more stringent and actually stricter than what title 42

allowed. >> yeah, in some ways, right? it is a bit nuanced in the sense that title 42 allow them to quickly expel people who were seeking asylum without even asking questions except for a few exceptions. title 8 now, in the way that they have this, allows for the expulsion of people who arrived at the border illegally. >> and for five years, they can't come back in. >> that's right. and there are more severe consequences now. but there are also >> -- there's extenuating circumstances -- >> there's some extenuating circumstances. -- to try and seek that asylum claim, even though it is actually actually very difficult to prove that asylum play quite. >> yes, and also the proposal that you must apply for asylum in the country you are transiting through before you get to the u.s.. that seems -- >> and while it's true that in the -- last week since these new policy has gone into place, we have not seen that big surge that we were expecting. some administration officials are still saying, hang on, we don't know exactly with the

full extent is. because a lot of migrants who are in mexico right now, northern mexico, 150,000 or so, they are waiting to see if, indeed, those policies are stringent as they are -- and remember, all of this could also be undone by the courts. there are already lawsuits that have been falling in season policies and of those come down you're going to see a surge once again. >> there's also new processes, though, for people in their home countries -- >> right, they've expanded legal pathways, particularly for those coming from countries where we have seen large migration movements. >> right. >> venezuela, nicaragua, honduras, for example -- >> we will see if any that makes a dent in all of this. thank you very much for that reporting. all right, up next -- on the lookout, our reporters tell us what stories they are looking out for on the horizon. this is... ♪ this is iowa. we just haven't been properly intntroduced. say hello to the placece where rolling hills meets low bills. where our fields, inside and out, are always growing. and where the fun is just getting started.

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a deal and a bill on the floor by -- >> great, great. >> i don't know if that is going to happen. you have cautioned us, okay, great. >> i think we will probably be talking about this again. >> i suspect i will be. -- >> i am always watching ukraine. i just think it is one of, if not the most important story in the world, happening right now. and the pace of attacks as really picks up there. and i am just watching every morning to see with ukrainians are doing and when it seems that they are counteroffensive will begin in earnest. the number of strikes beyond their territory they control is getting greater. the russians have been increasing their rocket to tax, and it seems all the pieces are starting to fall into place for the ukrainians. it's very interesting to watch. >> sara fischer, you have one second, go. >> espn is looking into whether or not they're going to move all its cable programming on

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