enigma of the performer is important. it's just not my nature to -- i love a good party. i have many friends. i'm not a person who hides in real life. but in terms of the lights, you know, i tend to shy away from those. >> we'll have much more of my conversation with andy garcia in a few weeks on "who's talking." for now, thank you for watching. you can catch my full sitdown with congressman james clyburn and priyanka chopra jonas any time on hbo max. we'll be off next friday for the memorial day weekend, but please join us on cnn in a couple of weeks to find out who's talking weeks to find out who's talking next. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone. i'm alisyn camerota. welcome to "cnn tonight." the race for the 2024 gop nomination is heating up. key announcements from governor ron desantis and senator tim

scott are expected next week, and our panel is going to tell us what to look out for on the political horizon. and with the migrant crisis straining cities, we're going to tell you about a big story in the headlines this week that one of the men involved now calls a scam. the head of the veterans organization accused of rounding up homeless men and telling them to claim that they were veterans being displaced from their hotel lodgings to make room for migrants. she denies it. tonight we have the facts. and the new york mayor is calling for an investigation. and ai feels like a run away train headed our way. tonight we're going to talk to a former google executive who worked in ai and tech for decades. his warnings ahead. but first, a segment we call "on the lookout." the storys that we see on the horizon. first, the 2024 gop primary is heating up. south carolina senator tim scott filing papers today with the ftc to run for president. he's expected to make a formal announcement on monday.

and florida governor ron desantis is expected to file paperwork declaring his candidacy next week. he was in new hampshire today taking a swipe at donald trump. >> it's easy to be a front runner. it's easy to go out and take positions that are really popular at the time. it's harder to dig in and really cut against the grain. it's not going to be easy. but i honestly believe that we have an opportunity to right the ship and to get this whole country going. >> okay. let's bring in our panel. jessica washington is a senior reporter at "the root," jay michael son is a columnist for "rolling stone." he's a lawyer and a rabbi and god knows what else. and republican strategist and former u.s. senate candidate. okay. so, let's talk about the political stories that we expect to break next week. so, senator tim scott officially filing his paperwork. he says he wants to distinguish himself as a positive messenger and to break away from what he

sees as the culture of grievance. is there a lane for him? >> there certainly is a lane for that. i think a lot of people are tired of hearing about how bad it is, hearing about the radical left. i think there is an opportunity for someone to paint a picture that's brighter for tomorrow. is it going to be tim scott? i'm not sure. donald trump is going to be really, really tough to beat at this point. he's ahead in the polls, depending on which one you look at, between 30 and 40 points. that is a huge, huge lead. tim scott would have to have a really, really solid message, one that would really transcend anything we see right now. right now he's down in the single digits. >> what do you think, jeff? >> it feels like 2016 all over again. i'm sitting next to lee, as i was in 2016. we have a republican field that gets wider by the day. and we have a national body politic that becomes obsessed with national polls. this is going to come down to a state-by-state evaluation. we should be looking at the polls on the ground in iowa. we should be looking at the polls on the ground in new hampshire. but i think, again, one thing

you're not hearing from a lot of the candidates jumping in is that they are the best choice, that they are the only choice, that they can win. and i think it speaks to the fact that president trump does have a stranglehold on that base, that it is this bizarre kind of quirk in our politics, where he is a defacto incumbent with all n many ways, the power of an incumbent without the actual downside of incumbency. so, here we are, as republicans once again, piling up. and with all those winner take awl primaries, as i keep reminding people, you can get 35%, but if you don't finish first, all you get is a ribbon and no delegates. >> that leads us to desantis, governor ron desantis. he met today with new hampshire governor sununu. governor sununu himself might be jumping into this race. do you think that governor desantis' fight with disney will help or hurt him in a national race? >> it's interesting to think about how in a sense the base of the republican party used to be

supporting business, free enterprise, things like that. now it's corporations that are leading the charge against conservatives wlrks it's dominion in the fox news case or now disney going up against ron desantis. it's hard to garagen that losing thousands of jobs in this gigantic project that disney cancelled they were going to do in florida will play to the base. this goes to the minutiae of what the rules are for this primary. this does feel like 2016 where there are a number of non-trump candidates who have varying degrees of messages. but the non-trump base, the non-trump voters don't unify behind one of those candidates, it's going to be nominee trump again. >> let's talk about another thing looming for next week, and that's the debt crisis. the talks are stalled now. they've pressed pause on them today after the negotiators for kevin mccarthy and president biden and they reached an impasse, so it doesn't look like anything's going to happen over the weekend. the sticking point, we're told, is that republicans want budget

cuts with this. so, put aside for a moment the hypocrisy that when trump was president, they weren't interested -- they didn't care that much about the debt ceiling or deficit spending. let's put that aside. is the idea of belt tightening -- they want to spend less money next year than they did this year. is that fundamentally wrong? shouldn't we be watching our budget? >> i think the problem is we're talking about this in this abstract way, individuals worried about should i spend less on coffee, should i not get this drink when i'm out or dinner out? and what we're actually talking about are real people who are going to be hurt by these budget cuts. people who are relying on these government services are not living large. people who get food stamps, some of them are still serving. these little cuts might sound like we've just got to tighten our budget, but we're talking about real people who are struggling, and we're talking about potentially making them struggle even more. >> i think there's a fun twist in the story that i think may be coming our way, that the various kind of emergency options wlrks

it's minting the billion dollar coin or whether it's congressional maneuvers to push this thing through, are looking increasingly likely. and it's possible this is actually going to go to the courts, this is going to be a whole new territory. and that's going to depend, just like everything else with the courts, which court, what the process is, does it go to the supreme court? and i think things are about to get more complicated than even in past debt ceiling crises. >> oh, goody. >> jessica will have all the notes. >> okay. and we're also on the lookout for another big story that has been happening this week. and of course will continue next week. and that is the migrant crisis. so, very interestingly, a story that was in the headlines that was upsetting about a group of homeless vets who were allegedly displaced from the hotel rooms where they had been staying to make room for migrants. the story never smelled completely right because it didn't make sense, to me, at

least. i read it many, many times over the course of the week. >> yeah. >> and i kept saying, but why they displace snd why couldn't the migrants go to the other hotel? it wasn't coming together. and now tonight, cnn is reporting that the mayor is going to -- new york mayor is going to be investigating it because apparently from what we know allegedly, a woman who runs an organization that helps veterans may have found some homeless men and basically asked them to masquerade as homeless vets. she might have paid them to do this to claim they were being displaced. this is an aside, but a lot is happening in this migrant crisis. >> it sure is. we were on the week all of that was happening and it seemed like the migrant crisis was getting out of control. these kinds of stories are terrible. it distracts us from the real issues. we're going to start fighting about whether or not these things are true. the bottom line is this. we need immigration reform. both sides agree to that, we

just disakbree about how it needs to get done. republicans about stronger borders, democrats about let's but the infrastructure in place to do it the right way. we've got to fix this. this story, to me, is a horrific thing that happened. but we shouldn't get distracted by the larger picture. >> there will always be people who take advantage of this situation. >> it's tragic because lost in all of this is the fact that we have an acute humanitarian crisis brought about by this situation. i would agree with lee that we've long known we have an immigration problem in the country. the problem that no one wants to grapple with here is that this is a crisis of the biden administration's own making, that they, over the course of effectively two years, said they wanted to get rid of the state policy. no one forced thome do that. they said they wanted to see title 42 go away. no one forced thome do that. at the end of two years, when they've been suing states to not do their own business on the

border, we've reached the conclusion they want it. and surprise, surprise, they don't have a plan. that's the frustrating part that all americans should be focused on. these are the conditions you asked for -- >> weren't those covid related? didn't that have to expire at some point? >> endi think title 42 has to expire, but i just think at the end of the day, if they truly wanted to say, we have a new version of american immigration policy as it relates to the southern border, what is it, two years later it doesn't exist. it is a makeshift, a day late, many, many dollars short. and here we have migrants in multiply chris on both sides of the border and it's just to me something we need to talk more about. because at the end of the day, those are real people, real pain, real suffering. >> i think you'll get your wish next week. i think we'll be talking a lot about it. this next story is jaw dropping. a man has been showing up at a bus stop for elementary school kids with an ar-15 rifle, in

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okay. we want to show you what's happening. these are images from just moments ago in hiroshima, japan, where president biden is posing, as you can see there, with world leaders at the g7. today's meeting will attempt to project unity on china. cnn, of course, will bring you all the headlines and more, as more develops there. okay. meanwhile, back here, for a few weeks now, in a suburb outside of baltimore, a man has been showing up at an elementary school bus stop with an ar-15 style semiautomatic rifle. one concerned parent from the neighborhood recorded the man on his cell phone. and here's what that parent told cnn affiliate wbal. >> i feel like if we don't do

something about it now, then we'll be talking again and it'll be too late at that point. i think that lives could be lost, people could be harmed. >> the man with the gun, named jaden mcdory, says he's there to protest recent gun reform measures that the governor of maryland has signed into law. this is what mac dory said to wbal. >> i really wasn't coming out here for the kids. i was coming out here to show people that this is legal. >> for parents who might ask just because you can do this, does that mean that you should do this? >> no, it does not mean that. but i think that if i do this enough, that it will create enough deterrents from crime in the area. >> just yesterday, macdory says he came to agreement with school officials, and he will no longer protest publicly during pickup or dropoff times for the local schools. the local police department says mac dory is permitted to do what he's doing under maryland law and that officers, quote, are in

the area to ease growing concern between parents and students. is this possibly the most tone deaf protest ever? he's protesting the governor's new gun reform laws. a lot of people protest with posters and pickets. he's bringing an ar-15 to a bus stop. >> it is just the most absurd form of protest. and the thing is, it just proves everyone's point that, you know, we shouldn't have ar-15s and people shouldn't be walking around the streets with them and that not everyone should own a gun. and i think this is kind of good messaging for that. the kind of person who would show up to a school bus to intimidate elementary school children and their parents is maybe not the kind of person we want walking around armed. and i kind of think he's doing a counterargument for himself. >> i don't know that he's trying to intimidate the children or the parents. i think that -- i take him at his word -- he's trying to make a point that he's all about

deterrence. is he tone deaf? >> he's making a point for the other team. this is just -- seems to highlight the argument that this is not what the framers intended, that this kind of weird, cultic, strange fetishization of guns and semiautomatic weapons -- this is not what the old nra stood for when they stood for responsible gun ownership. this guy has nothing in common with a responsible gun owner who might have a small gun for self-defense or hunting, something like that. this is a great example, however, of the near psychosis that pervades a certain extreme edge on this issue. and the real crime though is that this is not a crime, that this is actually legal. >> isn't it only legal until october 1st because the law just changed in maryland? >> right. in the wake of the supreme court decision, invalidating new york's gun control laws, maryland passed a very skillfully written gun control law, where everybody has a right to conceal carry. but this is open carry, right?

this is different. but you can't get the conceal carry permit if you fit into certain categories. so, it's arguable whether he does or doesn't fit into those categories actually. but the maryland law should be a good compromise position. it's not an extreme kind of gun prohibition. it's somewhere in the middle. so the fact that this is also getting protested, you know, it's like, this kind of moves the sticks. and again it's not the weird guy on the corner. the nra has immediately filed suit to challenge the maryland law. and there are a lot of folks who should know better who aren't condemning this kind of behavior. >> showing up at a bus stop for elementary -- this is why one of the parents at the bus stop says that it is caused so much -- he may think it's deterrence, but it's causing the kids anxiety for this reason. >> they're trained to hide the if this thing enters their school, and it's right there. how can they not be a little nervous about that? how can it not give them anxiety? >> such a great point. all of our kids are doing drills

right now for active shooter drills. and he decides to go to the bus stop. >> my 4-year-old had an active shooter drill in her school, and it's absolutely horrifying. there's nothing that's okay about this. i've got to say, these kind of stories make me crazy because it makes it seem like that's what the right is out for. and it is not. look at the polling, two-thirds of americans want stricter gun laws, 87% of americans want criminal background checks, 81% want to raise the age, 80% say that they should be able to have mental health checks. americans agree on so many issues here. this is the kind of thing that just makes it just seem like there's a side that is insane. and that's not the case. they represent a fraction of americans. and what i also want to say is a shame and scary, 54% of americans say that they have had one of these experience -- a close encounter with someone with a gun. this is not the america that we want to live in. this is not what the second amendment was about, and this

isn't what america wants. so, these kinds of stories really do make me crazy because this is not -- i don't think this representative of what -- >> can we go back to the last segment. i think both of you really the republican electorate very, very well. is there going to be a moment where one of these non-trump, non-desantis candidates actually steps up and speaks for this large part of the party that wants sensible gun reform? >> i think part of the problem with the conversation in general is that there is the underlying belief even amongst those people with those numbers that there is a desire for people on the left. you have a complete prohibition on guns. and i think that that becomes a sticking point for a lot of people. i can't sit at the table in good faith about common sense gun restrictions with a person that i believe wants to take away all the guns. that has nothing to do with this particular case, a person who has shown up with a gun scaring the begeezuz out of the children. i think to lee's point, it makes it more difficult for us to have

these pertinent conversations about how do we find common ground on issues where there is already demonstrated desire for the american people to create conditions where we don't have children being shot in math class. >> i understand that you or some republicans think that some left-leaning democrats want to take away all the guns. generally when they're negotiating, that's not their starting point. >> i feel like that becomes a talking point on the right. >> it's not a talking point. i think if you look at all the organizations that are pushing for the fight, a great many of the solutions that they've put forth inevitably revolve around trying to have some form of gun. first it's the ar-15s. then it's the certain spaces. i just think on some basic level we have to decide what is the position of the democratic party on guns. what is that position? and i'm happy to sit down with as many democrats -- i know many republicans are happy to sit down once that's established. it comes to this waffling where they can say they don't want to take away the guns here, while the people who are funding the

efforts and the people that are the most vo sciferous on the ise have -- >> i did a little bit of homework because i knew you were going to say that. no one is calling for what you are calling for at least in the main stream. >> when you say what i'm calling for. >> no one wants to take away all the guns. >> at some basic level, right? it's how you craft legislation, right? for instance, no one says in new york city, you are prohibited from having a conceal carry permit. but the standards that are prescribed to allow you to have that conceal carry permit are such that it makes it impossible to get that permit. i'm using that as one example, but i'm saying that yes, you don't have to say we're coming to get the guns. but if the manner in when you have to go through to get the gun makes it prohibitive for people to meet that standard, it has the same effect. >> we have to go. any final thoughts? >> i hear you on that, i get that, but this claim there's

some on the left that want to take away the guns, it tnt bourne out by where the advocacy experts are. >> we have to go. thank you both for those points. ahead, the moms are talking about what their biggest fears are. pollster frank luntz shows us why mothers are fed up with social media and their fears about ai. >> stacy, why does social media make it harder for you to be a mom? >> because i find the more my kids use social media, the more they see what other people want their lives to look like. and they're almost, like, jealous that their lives aren't as great as these other people.

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pollster frank luntz just gathered a group of concerned moms to ask their feelings about social media and artificial intelligence. it turns out they see danger. he started with the question, what one word comes to mind when you think of social media? >> influential. >> janet? >> dangerous. >> amber? >> i was thinking -- >> janelle? >> cancer. >> so, janelle, you said cancer. explain that. >> it just sucks the life out of people. that's it. >> and frank luntz joins us now to share more about what frightens these moms. frank, great to see you.

that was -- that was sobering to hear what they think about it. and what's also sobering, because i watched all the clips, was that they're worried about it. they think it's a cancer in their lives. but they don't seem to be able to do anything about social media and its influence on their kids. is that right? >> and that's one of the challenges. by the way, there's nothing that would get me to get up at 4:29 a.m. in london other than this. >> thank you. >> i was listening to the segment that you had before and guns and the violence of guns and the fear that our children have is so significant. that's some children in some places. the scourge of social media and artificial intelligence is almost every child in almost every community in almost every neighborhood and home. we know the damage it does physically. we know the damage it does mentally. moms were telling us that their kids are staying awake at night, they're not sleeping, they're not exercising, they're not going outside. they can't have communication with their own children. their children don't know how to

talk to their own parents. many nights they spend at the dinner table saying absolutely nothing, and yet nothing is happening. alisyn, i don't understand why so many parents don't treat this the same way they would treat guns and narcotics and strangers and not let people into their homes. to me, the most amazing comment was from a mom who said, these are things i wouldn't let into my household, yet my children bring them in every single day and i don't know about it. and washington does nothing. it's not a republican issue or a democratic issue. you can be rich, you can be poor. we know the damage that social media is doing. ai will do. and yet washington does nothing. >> and these parents feel so powerless. here is -- you asked them, i believe, what their message would be to social media companies. here's this moment. >> that you are destroying the next generation for profit or maybe for more nefarious purposes. but they know what their technology does to children's

brains. they have designed it to be addictive. it is an intentional play for them because eyeballs are dollars. and, i mean, i can't -- you know, i don't know how to convince them that their dollars are not worth the cost. but as a human being living here, watching what's happening to the next generation, as a mother, it's not worth the cost to me. so, it's not going to be in my house. >> and then frank, i mean, obviously that's frightening. and then they see on the horizon, you know, coming down the pike, ai also, which we'll get to in a second. so, tell us what their thoughts are on why social media companies aren't doing anything. >> so, they understand that the kids are addicted, but they can't remove their kids' addiction. they understand that it allows kids -- and those are the -- particularly the websites that show children an unreal existence.

so, the kids come home and assume that everybody lives that life, that everyone has that clothing and those toys and those games and everything about it. and it is so frightening because moms -- this is the toughest job on the face of the earth. and the social media companies ar are taking a tough job and making it impossible. moms tell us that they've lost control. and most importantly, they're telling the world that they're losing their children. such a big deal. and we're not spending nearly enough time talking about it and doing something about it. >> so, we are about to have a conversation with a google executive about the dangers of ai and trying to sound the alarm about what's ahead. and these moms that you spoke to know about it. they already sense the danger. even if they can't put their finger on what exactly it's going to do, they're already sensing sort of the looming storm clouds coming. so, here's that moment.

>> i am because i think ai is making humans obsolete. and i mean, they're smarter than the average human. they don't have emotion. they're taking away jobs from people. they're taking away that human contact. >> it dehumanizes us as people. that's why it's artificial intelligence. you could make it do a lot of harm, and it's all artificial. and it doesn't have any concern for human feeling, human person. so, that's a danger. >> what did you think about that conversation, frank? >> i think it's actually less important. and i'll explain why. as adults, we have the responsibility to make decisions for ourselves. and there's sometimes when it's taken away from us. but still, we have the capability to know right from wrong. we have the capability to make -- to observe and to

participate in our own lives. children don't have that capability. i love google. google's one of my favorite companies on the face of the earth. i depend on it. and all it takes is the google executives, what power are you giving to moms specifically so they can control what goes into the heads and the hearts of their own children? when you have moms in tears telling me that they have no way to shut off that device, that they take it away from the kid, they turn it off, and the kids become angry and temperamental. it's classic addiction. you have to give parents better tools, more and better. they have the ability to re-establish that mother/child relationship, to re-establish the brother/sister relationship, to re-establish the child with all of the world around them. because let me be clear, if this is an addiction, this is dysfunctional, this is

scrambling our kids' brains. and if you don't do something about it now, within the next five years, you're going to regret the hell out of it because it's going to be too late. >> frank, we really appreciate you getting up and being on at 4:30 in the morning your time to talk about all of this and the findings from that focus group. really interesting stuff. >> alisyn, thank you for doing this. >> see you soon. okay. so, our next guest says that ai will be a billion times smarter than humans in a couple of decades. a former executive at google's secretive google x lab joins me next. ♪ ♪ ♪ get 2.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on an xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial.

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my robots don't kill people. >> that thing threw somebody out of a window. is that registering with you? >> a robot cannot harm a human being. >> you can trust them if you want to. >> we look to robots for protection, imagine the loss of all that we've gained because of irrational pair noy i can't. >> it's a dystopian science fiction hellscape that we've seen in movies, machines outsmarting humanity. in the magic of the movies, humans win. but in real life, what does a future with artificial intelligence look like? it could potentially have inconceivable power, and some pioneers of it are trying to sound the alarm. former executive at google's secret research and development lab called google x, and he's here to tell us what the future holds. we've really been looking forward to this conversation. you know a lot more about ai than most of us do.

on a scale of one to ten with ten being the worst, how worried should we be about artificial intelligence and what's about to happen? >> thank you very much for having me. i think this is a very -- conversation i would definitely say. robots, as a comment on the science fiction clip you showed so far, this has been a big part of the investment of machines and so on and so forth. to answer your question accurately, there is a -- i would say there is a very low probability that a very bad situation would happen. there is a very high probability that a reasonably bad situation would happen. >> so, do you lose sleep over this at night? on a scale of one to ten, are we at a nine for how worried we should be about it? an 11? where are we? >> i'm saying we should probably be worried.

we should probably act as if it is a nine out of ten and probably act, you know, and sort of hope for a five out of ten. there are immediate dangers that i definitely think we are not going to escape. tension we see in science fiction movie is less likely to happen, but it is definitely a possibility. think about it this way -- >> hold on, when you say there are immediate dangers, can you just outline a few of those for us? >> it's game over for our way of life altogether when you think about it. we are, today, in a place where something like chatgpt has 155 iq. it knows a thousand times more than the rest of us. and it does that with almost 10% of the number of -- we have with a limited compute power for a

pilot. ten times better than 3.5. just think about it. has iq of 1,600, that's ten times einstein, right? now, we have to imagine what that means to the fabric of society. so, things like jobs are gone, we absolutely have to start right now. think about the reality of what kind of -- this is almost an oppenheimer moment. give that kind of power to one person and see the disruptive differentiation of power and how that would impact our society. it's definitely a call to action. >> so, mo, when you say that they can become killing machines, as you just said, ai powered machines, that sounds bad. what do you mean by that?

>> sadly, because of the system that humanity has built, which is known as capitalism -- nothing wrong with capitalism, by the way. there is a big issue with the autonomy of capitalism. capitalism as a process is very, very efficient. and when we use it to achieve more power and more dollars, if you want, then what ends up happening is we do the wrap around things. if you look at most of the investments in ai, they're going into killing, spying, selling, and -- that's it basically. and that's not a special thing for ai. every industry that wanted to make more money or gain more power, they invested in defense. we call it defense. we don't call it killing. they invested in selling. we call it advertising. we don't call it selling. they invested in gambling. we call it trading. we don't call it gambling. and they invest in spying. we call it surveillance. we don't call it spying. when you really think about it,

if you have a cancer research approach, you raise funds. but if you said i'm going to pour investment into things that's going to sell more my capturing children in front of social media for a longer time to show ads, everyone would pour money on it. the investments -- today and it highlights my biggest concern. my biggest concern is not the machines. i'm actually not afraid of the machines. i'm afraid of what humans can do with such immense amount -- when the objective is more power and more money. >> so, mo, what should president biden or congress or elected leaders, what should they be doing today to stave off some of this catastrophic scenario? >> we need to get realistic. we can regulate -- you cannot regulate ai. there is another solution that's not up to government to do that.

and we can talk about this. the government today needs to start reacting a lot quicker than they reacted to the pandemic of covid-19, right? we waited until there was patience zero and then we waited until there was patient 10,000 and then we acted. this is a wakeup call today that is not very difficult, you know, to predict where it's going. they need to, number one, make sure that anything fake is shown as fake. i think there should be a law that simply says, you know, people should be criminalized for putting out ai-generated content unless they finalize that this is ai generated. i would go as far as to say -- should have a remark on them that this is face filter. this is not unique, right? but they need to work on -- you know, there was the open letter trying to stop ai. that's impossible just because

of the present world of everyone trying to get ahead in aerospace. but we need to think about to tax ai benefitted companies differently so that we can actually pay for the jobs that are going to be lost as a result of ai, right? we need to engage in ways where we say, yes, advance ai, but don't put it out on the open internet unless you are absolutely certain of the controls, right? and these are all barriers that -- one after the other just because the topic has not been brought to people's attentions, you know, loud enough if you want, and i'm really grateful that you're bringing it up. this is the time to act. >> mo, we only have 30 seconds left. who should be pumping the brakes on this right now? >> i think businesses, investors, and developers. the first entry gate into unethical ai is unethical

developer, unethical businessman. i ask all investors to pour money on ai. and you get a lot of return if you can cure cancer. don't pour money in the wrong places, right? if you don't want your children to struggle with the ai or investing, if you don't want your children to struggle with ai, go out and get -- jobs, not ai. >> thank you for having this conversation with us. we look forward to having more with you because it is important to know what is coming ahead for all of us because this is civil civilization changing. thanks so much for sharing your expertise with us. great to talk. and we'll be right back. mom. and the bill payer, baker, and nightlight maker?? that's a lot. so, addingng “and student” might feel daunting.

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