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minute president biden will hold a live press conference wrapping up the g7 summit. plus biden will return to washington as the u.s. inches ever closer to running out of money to pay its debts. a look at what could be on the table when he speaks to kevin mccarthy later today. and wagner's forces say they've taken control of bakhmut after months of bloodshed, but ukrainian officials claim the fight isn't over. we'll take you live to ukraine for the very latest. so u.s. president joe biden returns to washington later today where the debt ceiling crisis remains unresolved at this hour, and, yes, time is running out. right flou now mr. biden is hiroshima, japan, where the important g7 summit has just concluded. we're expecting him to appear right there at that podium and

hold a press conference moment m momentarily. prison made a surprise appearance at the summit to make his case face-to-face and in person. he met with president biden who announced a new round of military aid to ukraine. take a listen. >> today i'm announcing the next trounce of u.s. security say sis tans to ukraine, a pack thaj that includes more ammunition, artillery, and armored vehicles to bolster ukraine's abilities. together with the entire g7, we have ukraine's back, and i promise we're not going anywhere. >> thank you very much, mr. president. we also thank you for your leadership, for your support, and really for this new package. it's grateful from all our people. and i'm so happy we have such

strong relations with our people during all these challenges. we go shoulder to shoulder, and we're thankful to the american people. >> now, cnn correspondents are covering all of the angles. phil mattingly and kevin liptak are high in hiroshima. thanks to all of you. phil, we want to get to you first. we're waiting as you can see there for that presidential press conference. phil, listen, long gone are the days when g7 summits were boring. i can't believe how much we got out of this one. it was an am birns agenda for president biden and all of the allies. what are you taking from the fact that president biden and president zelensky took the stage in such a dramatic fashion. >> reporter: it's now going into the 15th month since russia's invasion.

we always knew it was going to be a central piece with it as addenda-pronged approach in terms of the focus and how the g7 countries were going to deal with china, deal with the competition and deal with language and economic actions to try to counter on some level as what china has done or what it may do in the future, and yet the presence of volodymyr zelenskyy, his decision to make the surprise visit to hiroshima was notable. it started with his visit to washington, the white house, and capitol hill in december. just over the course of the last ten days, he's been to four european capitals, made a surprise visit to the arab league summit as well. yes, the symbolism is clear. yes, the effect of the media coverage and focus on not just zelenskyy but ukraine and what's continuing to happen given how grinding the battle and conflict has been is important, but he's

leading the stops with something tangible. $375 million in military assistance from president biden. even more than that, he would sign off on the u.s. participating in a training program for f-16 pilots. he'll sign off on european countries being able to export their stocks if they choose to do so. also the nonmember countries that were here, leaders that perhaps represent countries that have been trying to stay neutral, on the fence, maybellining a little toward russia in the conflict, he had an opportunity to meet with them, too, or make them listen to what he had to say. that's why this visit was so tangible even when you keep in mind what is expects in the weeks and months ahead. the counteroffensive of this war is continuing grind forward in a very clear sense that among the g7 leaders, there needs to be an endgame at some point. they need to know what that looks like, and so much is contingent on what that looks

like. >> that elusive endgame. it's worrying to so many people. i know at this time given everything they've put into this fight, many are wondering what the next step is. kevin liptak, you've been watching everything so closely. it's been interesting to see president zelensky having so many face-to-face meetings not just with allies but with countries that have not necessarily taken the ukraine point of view so far, notably brazil and india. let's listen first to india's prime minister who basically perhaps encouraged president zelensky with his words. take a listen. >> reporter: the war in ukraine is a huge topic of discussion for the entire world. its impacts have been multi-fold on the globe, but i did not just consider it to be an issue of policy or politics for me it's an issue of humanity or humanitarian challenges.

who would know the challenges of war or pain more than any of us. >> president lula from brazil with lula reporting he refused to have a bilateral. he refused to have a bilateral with zelenskyy there. how do you think that changed the character of the meeting in terms of what the g7 priorities are going forward for ukraine? >> reporter: it certainly allowed zelenskyy to make the appeal face-to-face. he did walk out with modi fairly upbeat. he thought india would participate in the coalition against russia. how they do that remains to be seen. seasonally when you talk to american officials, zelenskyy believes when he can get to the leaders face-to-face, when he can make that in-person appeal, he feels like he can vm v some effect. as phil has mentioned, he's basically done this all around the world at this point. the leaders here in the actual g7 were very hopeful those

appeals would have an effect on the invited guests. and you heard french president iemmanuel macron say it could b a game-changer in trying to get to the global south. da silva did not meet with zelenskyy. he's one of those so-called fence-sitters. others would like to meet with zelenskyy, but it appears it's not happening on this stop. vietnam is another in the same position. now, whether any of those make any difference, i think, remains to be seen, but certainly the leaders who are gathered here were very hopeful that that would make a difference. of course, they're all leaving the summit with this looming question of how much the support can be sustained going forward. you know, none of these g7 leaders is particularly.

lar at home. they're facing some political headwinds in large part because of the economy and the global economy is struggling in some part because of the war in ukraine, so it is a question as these leaders leave what happens next, paula. >> stand by as we're watching right now president zelensky and the prime minister of japan. they're laying a wreath there at the hiroshima peace memorial. again, as we've been saying, president zelensky joining this meeting in a dramatic fashion and that includes going to this memorial peace park. that's commemorating all the destruction in hiroshima given what happened after the nuclear bomb -- after a nuclear bomb in world war ii. what's interesting is it's front and center for officials as they continue to deal with nuclear risks, something the iaea and its leaders say remains a dangerous situation, so, again, an important moment for

officials, the prime minister, and president zelensky as they lay that wreath at the memorial peace. we do want to go what was really extraordinary news earlier. the kremlin released a statement on behalf of the russian president vladimir putin congratulating the wagner group after the mercenaries claimed to have captured the ukrainian city of bakhmut. now, russia's defense ministry also issued a statement touting the, quote, liberation of the city. wagner chief yevgeny prigozhin had a message for ukrainian president zelensky who was attending the g7 summit as you've been learning in hiroshima. take a listen. >> translator: without sarcasm, your guys fought bravely, fought well, and if you follow this path, then you can become the second army in the world. of course, after the most powerful army in the world, that is wagner pmc. today when you see biden, kiss

him on the top of the head. say hello for me. >> say hello for me. now, cnn cannot independently verify that the city has been captured. the ukrainian military has said in its daily update that, quote, battles for the city of bakhmut continues, but pri goshen says his forces will hand over control of the city to the russian military on thursday. for more on all of this, i'm joined by sam kiley who is in southeastern ukraine for us. and, sam, good to have you weigh in here. as we see this battle of bakhmut and the disputing characterization of exactly what's gone on there, i really want to get your take on this, especially because president zelensky was asked directly, right, is bakhmut in the hands of the russians, and he had a bit of a mixed reaction to it. >> reporter: yeah, i think he had a mixed reaction because he was sort of telling the truth. this is part of the battle, part

of the ebb and flow. one side will capture some territory and then the other side may counterattack. now, the consequences of that in the town of bakhmut is that arguably, according to the kremlin anyway, and the wagner group, they control the center or the built up area of bakhmut. they certainly don't control the flanks and are, in fact, endangered of being encircled in the city. i think that's the reason you have this slightly almost kind of almost wishy-washy response from the ukrainian president. this is what he said, paula. >> is bakhmut still in ukraine's hands? the russians have said they have taken bakhmut. >> i think no. but you have to understand that there is nothing. they destroyed everything. there are no buildings. it's a pity. it's a traj jichlt but for todaying bakhmut is only in our hearts. there is nothing on this space.

just ground and a lot of dead russians. >> reporter: now, if the wagner mercenary organization is going to make good on its plans to withdraw on thursday, that means they've got to be reinvested or replaced by russian conscripts. that, in itself, is a dangerous type of military operation. it's extremely unlikely that it would happen. and, of course, now that bakhmut is -- woit would appear, a buil up area for the rugs, it becomes a free fire zone for ukrainians. i don't have to worry about what to hit in the rubble there because anything they kill in their view will be a legitimate target in the form of a russian soldier. it will be very, very dangerous indeed for anybody wearing a russian uniform in the foreseeable future, particularly as they're pushing on the flanks. this may appear closer to a trap

than a victory for wagner. >> a very good point there, sam, as you continue to follow that battle in bakhmut for months. i want to say this did drop in dramatic fashion in the middle of this g7 summit. earlier he was asked about it. here's what he said. >> translator: i think it's up to the ukrainian authorities to talk about theirs enforcements on the ground. i will stay extremely cautious. this is the difficult part of the operation. despite everything, this operation which started in december on the city shows the difficulty the russian army had in advancing, so i won't speak on this subject. i think the presence of mr. zelenskyy here is important. >> you know, sam, i bring this up because for months we heard from behind the scenes, allies of the united states questioned whether or not ukraine should be spending so much time defend bakhmut and all the blood that was spilled there. what do you think going forward

they will make of the battle that's gone on for the last few months, especially given that as far as we can report, that counteroffensive in other parts of the country hasn't even started yet? >> reporter: the down peroffensive may well be in the works. it may develop around bakhmut as the opportunity may or may not present itself to ukrainians. i have to remain fluid. they've remained trained and advised by nato forces who will be stressing the need for surprise and maneuver warfare as opposed to the human wave attacks, which have characterized the russian tactics over the city of bakhmut. so ukrainian defenders have been saying for months they see no particular reason why anyone would want to defend bakhmut, much less capture it. but in their view, they're happy to kill russians there in a place that doesn't have particularly strategic value. but particularly in terms of coveraging bakhmut became very

much a sort of symbol of ukrainian resistance, a political symbol, particularly for president zelensky when much to the surprise of some of his commanders, he committed his country to an almost open-ended defensive in that location. but it has been a huge drain on both sides. we won't really see, i think, the evidence of quite what a drain it has been on both sides until or if this counteroffensive gets underway. but it has definitely exposed a lot of the weaknesses in the russian system, particularly poor battlefield communication, appalling tactics. massive waste of their own human lives, huge numbers of infan tiers guns down on a daily basis, and that's not the sort of thing you can keep from the psychology of fellow russian soldiers as they look out from the trenches across the fields of eastern ukraine and wondering

when and where ukrainians might attack next. paula. >> certainly an absolutely savage battle that's unfolded. you make a good point what it means. it won't be clear for several weeks or even months. sam kiley, i appreciate you coming to be a part of this in southeastern ukraine, and you'll continue to bring updates as the press conference unfolds. we want to go back to the press conference in hiroshima. phil mattingly is standing by with the president expecting to speak in any moment. if we put aside the national diplomacy for a moment, there's supposed to be shuttled diplomacy over that big issue, the debt crisis. i think you reported, right, phil, he goes right from that conference, steps onto air force one, and immediately starts taking calls. where are we exactly, and before we get to that point, i want you to listen to what biden had said a little earlier. >> mr. president -- what's the

main message? >> i'll get a chance to talk later today. >> what's your message to him? >> i'll give it to him before i give it to you. >> yeah, so, phil, i was wrong there. he said nothing. so in terms of what you're hearing from officials, is he keeping up that optimism, and does he have a game plan getting onto air force one? >> yeah, he is going to have a call with speaker keben mccarthy when e h gets on air force one. it's a call that's an absolute necessity at this point. speaker kevin mccarthy has asked for this phone call after days of negotiations between the top negotiators for the republicans and the white house. i'll give you the technical policy here. things aren't great right now. there's no progress or pathway forward. whoo ill that's not abnormal for negotiations, particularly hard-edged negotiations with two sides with varying decisions, it's a problem when you only have 11 days until potential

default. that's the wild-card here. i think to some degree, it's one of the interesting elements being here at g7 was taking to some of the advisers or leaders of the foreign countries who say we're a little used to this, a little sanguine, because you do this every single time and always find a way out of it. i think the concern now is given the stance, the dynamic condition, and the terms that president biden doesn't think anything should be attached to a debt ceiling, which is a complc complete different thing for the republican s republicans, it's tough. the hope is that the two leaders, the speaker and president talking on air force one can jar something loose because they certainly need it now, paula. >> the stakes are high.

certainly janet yellen has been very blunt about the risks and those risks have been made apparently clear if they weren't already to the president as he sat down with those eu allies. phil mattingly at the press conference standing by we expect to hear from the president at any moment. we'll go back to keben liptak as this press conference is about to begin. we had a lot of talk about ukraine, kevin, and yet china was also top of mind in a way it hasn't been at other summits. it's certainly formed part of the communique. what was your interpretation how the g7 leaders and their countries will now deal with china given its more assertive posture to use a word from the u.s. defense secretary? >> reporter: i think it's clear after these three days there is a real desire among these leaders the coalesce among a u.s./chinese policy.

i don't think the communique is necessarily the final product, but it's been fascinating to watch. until two years ago, china was not a subject for the summit at all. it was biden's first summit in england that they first mentioned china in their comm communique. been a subject that biden in particular has stressed needs to be confronted by this block in particular. so what you saw this week was a real attempt to coalesce around some language when it comes to what the united states calls economic coercion. and the phrase you hear repeated over and over again is derisk, not decouple. it's basically an acknowledgement that these countries are never going to server ties with beijing. the trading relationships are too important. and instead of sort of cutting themselves off completely, the desire is really to remove some of the national security risks from the relationship, things like more resilient supply chains.

and you've already seen that from the united states, putting restrictions on exports of semiconductors, things like investments, trying to limit what can be invested in china. so the leaders did coalesce aurchd leaders there. i think the area where there's still work to be done is when it comes to the security relationship. the situation around taiwan, the situation in the south china sea. that's been the atmosphere around the summit in advance of the summit. chinese war ships dill sail close to japan. the g7 only takes place in asia every seven years. i think it loomed somewhat larger here than it has in the past. the united states and europeans are on different pages somewhat when it comes to taiwan. you saw it very clearly when president macron said europe shouldn't be following.

i'm not sure those differences were necessarily reconciled here in hiroshima, but certainly the leaders do seem to be on the same page. they need to come up with some sort of agreement and confront the threat that's not going anywhere in years to come. >> and has become more con complicated in the last couple of years. thank you for that. you'll stand by as we stand by. nebraska joins other states to ban abortions. the legislature pass as restrictive bill. and new york struggles to accommodate migrants bussed from the southern border. we'll tell you about the city's plan to get recent migrants closer to where they want to be. they release medicine fafast... for fast pain relilief. and now... ...g.get relief without a pill. with tylenol dissolve packs. relief without thehe water.

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attending to ukraine and other serious issues. we'll bring you that press conference live in just a few moments. for now we turn to nebraska where they've voted to ban abortions after 12 weeks of agency. the law known as let them grow act would restrict gender-affirming care for people under the age of 19. it now goes to the governor's desk for his signature. cnn's camikacamilla benall has details. >> reporter: there's the gender-affirming care part and the abortion part of it. this is an amendment that was added on wednesday. i want to explain the gender-affirming care part of it

first. what it would do is prevent proviersd performing gender-affirming surgeries for anyone under the age of 19. it's rare when it comes to minors. the other part of the bill would be it would restrict access to puberty-blocking medication or hormone treatments for anyone under the age of 19. and this is standard care. now, the other aspect of this bill is the abortion part. what it would do in nebraska is ban abortion or most abortions at 12 weeks. there are some exceptions when it comes to sexual assault, to incest, or to medical emergencies. of course, there was a big debate over both of these issues on the floor, and i want you to listen to what some of these lawmakers had to say. >> we're not the bad guys. we're trying to protect young children and young adults before the age of 19, and we're trying to protect preborn children from

being brutally murdered in the womb. >> colleagues, we should not be in the business of telling people what they can and can't do with their bodies, and we should not be in the business of stepping between doctors and patients in circles like this. >> reporter: now, there has been a lot of opposition for this bill, and a number of people were arrested on friday. another thing to keep in mind here is the abortion part of this bill would go into effect the day after the governor signs it, but the gender-affirming care part of the bill would go into effect on october 1st. of course, we would need that signature first. camila bernal, cnn, los angeles. the u.s. transportation security screened 2.46 million people nationwide. that's the most since the pandemic began and 150% increase over last year. it could be a hint of a huge summer to come for air travel.

aaa is predicting an 11% increase for memorial day weekend compare to 2019 which was before the pandemic. major airlines say they're staffed up and ready for the summer onslaught. we certainly hope so. despite plummeting numbers of migrants making their way across the southern border, the city of new york is making accommodation for those who arrive even if they're going to move on. we look at how the city is trying to handle them when think get to new york. >> reporter: i'll tell you a little bit what we've been watching outside of the roosevelt hotel. all day we've been watching as migrants arrive. many of them include children, young people, families, who are arriving here to new york city after being bussed if there the southern border. now, the city has set up this place as a sort of first stop for migrants. they're being brought here from the local bus terminal in hopes of connecting them to the

available resources. this hoe tel is being set up as place where migrants can rest, shower, go to the bathroom, sleep if needed for a night or two. they're also provided food, water, and medical care, and then they're connected with the services they might need. i want to show you what it looks like inside the hotel. you can see they've set up different waiting areas and common areas for people to try and get on whatever journey they are trying to get on. many of the migrants being sent to new york city, do not intend to stay in new york city. some of them are trying to connect with other family members or travel to other parts of the country. and the city is trying to step in and do just that. but there are also some very real challenges when it comes to sheltering migrants. the city of new york has been running out of shelter space, and we watched today as a couple

of migrants were removed from this location and sent to another shelter location likely to be given a place in one of the city's local shelters while they wait to resolve their housing situation. that is certainly one of the challenges that the city is dealing with. i spoke with one of the local advocates that has been working with migrants and with the city to try and connect them to services. >> new york has welcomed people for centuries from across the world, from europe, from asia, from africa, the middle east and beyond. immigrants and refugees have built the city. are really part and parcel of the social fabric and cull real fabric of what we call in new york, not just here in the city but across the state. immigrant communities and refugees have actually brought back communities and brought back the backbone of the economy. >> reporter: despite that reputation that new york city has always had as being a place where migrants are always welcome, you have seen in the last several weeks that there

has been some conflict with the suburbs outside of the city, particularly after mayor eric adams here announced that he would be bussing some migrants out of the city in order to alleviate some of the capacity constraints that the city has been dealing with. other places around the city have not been as welcoming. some have filed lawsuits in an attempt to stop the city from bussing migration grants. so it really shows you how much attention and difficulty there has been over the last several days as migrants continue to arrive in no, despite the numbers at the border being significantly down since the expiration of title 42. we've spoken with advocates here that say despite numbers at the border, migrants are continuing to arrive here in the area. again, the mayor asking for federal intervention, for federal funding, and asking for other lawmakers in the city to

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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "cnn newsroom." president biden will be returning to washington in the coming hours where he'll have to deal with congressional

republicans who are refusing to raise the national debt limit. if that's not done soon, the u.s. could default on its debts for the very first time in history and the fallout could be severe. right now president biden is in hiroshima, japan. you see the podium there. he attended the g7 summit. it wrapped up. the war in ukraine on top of the agenda. volodymyr zelenskyy made a surprise visit to the g7 summit to plead for more military assistance. for more on the story, i'm joined by john herbst, former ambassador to ukraine. i thank you for your tomb. as i'm sure it's been interesting for you to watch all the choreography of everything that's happened with zelenskyy the n the past few days, he secured both moral and military support, and yet, you know, arguably some would say that this just enables further military escalation. in your view, what has all of this accomplished?

>> look, those who say this only allows for the military escalation are saying that the victim does not have a right to defend itself, and in this case the victim has been subject to massive war crimes, which border on genocide. so that's amoral and actually a politically ignorant point of view. ukraine has been able to fight the kremlin to a standstill, and i suspect with the equipment that zelenskyy has been receiving or the procurement whose approval he's been receiving will enable him to conduct a very successful counteroffensive later this year. if he had f 4616s now, if he had the long-r long-range tactiles could conduct a successful counteroffensive, which will

make the russian seizure of bakhmut, if that's, in fact, happened, seem like small change. >> it's interesting what you say about people pointing to this being a political escalation. look, no one has paid a higher price than ukraine through that military installation. i was interested to hear from president biden as he landed in japan as he tweeted this will bring us closer to this point. as you said, when i get the military hardware, the faster i get it, the faster we can end this conflict, when you look at the counter oh fess irv and what might be approaching in the spring, what do you think will make the difference there? they do not have the f-16s now and they've suffered heavy, heavy losses in bakhmut. >> one, it looks like russia has suffered five casualties for every one casualty in bakhmut. that's accord ining to them.

moscow is unable to conduct a greater offensive this your. even if they've taken bakhmut, there is as far as they're going. i have confidence given what ukraine has put together right now, at a minimum, it will conduct a counteroffensive which will take several hundred square kilometers of ukrainian territory away from russia and return it to kyiv's control. it's quite possible the offensive will be much more successful than that, but they will at least achieve that. >> given what zell ski said about ukraine, i'm not going to get into the semantics about who's taking it in terms of bakhmut, he says there's nothing left there, what does it tell us? the allies were skeptical that the allies should have taken on russia in the first place. >> well, i think this has been at a minimum a success in blunting moscow's offensive. look, it's taken moscow -- if,

in fact, they've captured a all of it and it looks like it's not necessarily so, it's taken eight months to take the city. bu tin had set a deadline of mid-december and here we are approaching the end of may, and maybe they've captured it, maybe they haven't. in the meantime according to u.s. estimates, russia has suffered a hundred thousand casualties since december and they're unable -- they've spent their artillery, their weaponry, and even their soldiers' lives in this effort. so if it turns out to be a quote, unquote kremlin victory, it will be a pure victory. >> which, as you point out, may have come at a great, great cost to them. i want to get to the g7 summit for a moment. india was there, brazil was there. i'm naming two countries that have not taken a position. if not taken a position, they've

certainly hobbled ukraine in its efforts. president modi was quite conciliatory, but president lula hasn't come on board. how long do you think it will go forward and how long lit last. >> all of these things point to putin ice diplomatic isolation. modi is, of course, in charge of the world's greatest democracy -- excuse me, not greatest but it's largest democracy. i'm sure putin was deeply unhappy as you watched modi and zelenskyy meet together in a bilateral. lula has been appealing the authoritarians in a truly disgraceful manner when he went to china and talked about let's have an alternate currency to the dollar and his refusal to

meet with zelenskyy. it's a really rather shameful performancing and i think this is well under by people in brazil. >> yeah, and we'll continue to see how zelenskyy's efforts continue on those points. he also went to the arab league and tried to deal with some of the people there who are still having diplomatic relations and otherwise with russia. ambassador john herbst, we'll have to leave it there, but i thank you for your time. >> my pleasure, thank you. we want to bring in our kevin liptak again who's standing by as we await the press conference with president biden as he wraps up the g7 summit in japan. kevin, i want to bring you up to date as well on some reporting we have in cnn and the deputy defense minister saying to cnn she disputes that bakhmut has been completely taken over by russian forces, and that in their words the city is not completely encircled and they

still have strongholds in the suburbs. kevin, this is probably a level of detail that the president is briefed about, but, again, it tearily does not affect what ee going on now. what they're looking at is how is this going to affect the conflict in the months to come given the military aid and given the steps in terms of providing that military aid, how far they've come in this summit. the pivotal point. you said it. quite a reversal on f-16s. what do you make of how quickly that happened, really while you were on the ground in japan? >> reporter: it had been in the works for some time. jack sullivan had sort of taken the lead in these negotiations, in these talks with g7 leaders and with zelenskyy's government for a while, so it had been in the works for some time. it was a reversal on the part of the president. the way they explain it, they still do not believe ukraine

needs thes at the moment. they don't believe that's effective. but they do believe it could provide long deterrence measures for ukraine as it battles this russian aggression. one thing that we don't know at this point is how long it will take to train up these ukrainian pilots. there was word from back in the united states that perhaps the training would be a little faster than had it initially been predicted. certainly president zelensky wants those jets flying as soon as he can. the real caution president biden had had initially was the risk of escalation. he certainly did not want president putin to regard the f-16s in the conflict and he doesn't want them using them inside russian territory. the white house has saud any weapons they provide to ukraine should not be used in russian territory. it was a major reversal and a centerpiece of the ukraine talks

this week. it came after several other reversals on the part of the president when it came to military aid. you remember he was initially against sending abrams tanks to ukraine. he came around and send them. he was against sending other things and he sent them as well. it's clear the president's willingness to go further and further is also progressing. and it will be interesting to see what is next in that eventual progression, but certainly i think it's something the president will talk about when he comes out and speaks and hopefully soon. >> hopefully soon as we await that and definitely the list of the military hardware has made a difference in the outcome so far. i want to switch gears a little bit, kevin, talk about something that's perhaps going to give you a little bit of trauma given everything you've been through with a debt crisis.

we are here again, a lot of back and forth. they thought they were close to a deal a couple of days ago, and yet we're back down to the wire in crisis talks. from what you're hearing, is there some deal? i know president biden is going to get on air force one an get immediately on the phone with the house speaker. can you fill it out a little bit more for us in terms of what the sticking points are and if there has been any movement? >> reporter: right now the sticking points appear to be on levels of federal spending. they've worked through a number of issues, but this appears to be the snag at this point. the republicans want to reverse spending to that of 2022. democrats offered a proposal that decreased some defense spending but left other domestic programs intact. the republicans balked at that, and so we're now kind of that this point where both sides are sharpening their language,

accuing the other side of not negotiating in good faith, and caving to the conservative wings respect actively of each of their parties. when the president gets back on air force one and gets on the phone with house speaker kevin maccarthy, the hope is they'll break the logjam. you've heard house speaker kevin mccarthy say he doesn't think any progress can be made until president biden re-engages in talks. you heard president biden talk about it yesterday. he was a little more sanguine. he said he expected the posturing, the blundering. he said an agreement could be reached. you know, it's interesting. it's a topic that's come up at the g7 meetings between president biden and his counterparts, between president biden's aides and their counterparts. the president's national security adviser jake sullivan

described it as a point of interest. he said there wasn't vibration in the room on this issue. but i do think it's hard to escape the fact that this would pose a real significant challenge to the global economy. for all of the talk of china and russia at the summit, there's no greater threat to global stability than the potential of an american default. it would send the entire global economy into tail spin, and so these leaders, i think, were looking for some kind of reassurance from president biden that a deal could be reached. the other problem is it does nothing to rebuke the sense that you're hearing from euro peoples that the political system is in a state of dysfunction and it's something that's a problem for them particularly when it comes to ukraine, sustaining support for ukraine. this debt back and forth does nothing to convince them that the american political system is in a state of functionality at the moment.

that's a topic president biden will be asked about here. it will be interesting to see how he characterizes these talks today. >> interesting that you mention that because the speaker mccarthy, in fact, has seemed to washer a bit on ukraine and on funding ukraine. the big word that's always used in dc is there shouldn't be a blank check. exactly what that means, many are unsure. but as this debate unfolds it will become part of the issue even if it's not part of the debt cells negotiations. president biden said at first he wouldn't negotiate. for our viewers listening in here, some believe it should be automatic. you spent the money. you now have to pay. you have to decide you're going to have to pay your bills. president biden said that's the way it should be done. president trump said the same. why can't we do the same and automatically increase the spending limit?

what's different about the president going back and forth, first saying he wouldn't negotiate, and yet here we are again, down to the wire. we have a deadline, and the speaker is saying you must negotiate with us. this is the only way this is going to get resolved. >> reporter: it's clear from anyone watching that they are attached. it's clear the president entered the negotiations too late. kevin mccarthy asked him to sit down and talk about the budget months ago. the president said he was waiting for kevin mccarthy to put out his own budget plan. both sides are accusing each other of delaying the talks. the bottom line is the talks are reaching the moment where where they do need to come to an agreement. the deadline is june 1st when the country could run out of cash to pay its bills. you mentioned something interesting, which is this

potential that the biden administration will have to go back to ask for funding for ukraine. they haven't disturbance that yet in the republican-controlled house. the aides say they do see bipartisan support in congress, but that hasn't been tested yet because they haven't actually asked lawmakers for the money. i think that's another thing coming down the pike, certainly something you're watching in the growing strain in the republican party, something they really want to know how that will be resolved particularly as the american -- republican primary process gets understood way. these leaders, as they have, for the last several summits are watching for the potential return of someone like president trump, perhaps even president trump himself and wondering what it would mean for this western alliance that president biden has been, you know, so effective in bringing together. you know we saw president

zelensky with the leaders of g7. he took the eighth spot. it was once held by russia, vladimir putin, before it was rejected over the annexation of crimea. president trump wanted to bring russia back into the g7. he had quite a heated argument with his fellow leaders about this issue. he was opposed by leaders like angela merkel and boris johnson who were in power at the time. it's certainly an open question how a republican president would handle this issue. and you just heard president trump at our cnn town hall, he wouldn't say he wanted ukraine to win this war and then p thought it would resolve the crisis. it didn't make anyone feel confident here about the kay oltic summit that occurred in the trump years, so this lends a degree of uncertainty as the leaders depart from japan.

there is some question about how much support can be sustained going forward, whether their fatigue will set in in these populations or whether these leaders' popularity will affect their ability to maintain the strength of sanctions, to maintain the strength of military assistance to ukraine going forward. that's something you hear from plenty of officials on the sidelines of the summit is sort of the lingering, fess during concern that hasn't been necessarily resolved as the summit concludes in the next few minutes. >> so many issues, even be the spending, as use think about it. donald trump said he could end the war in a day. what dawes dus that mean if there is a change in government after the next presidential election given how much they can count on the united states to give that up. i want to go back to you having said they didn't have to go back to congress yet in order to basically get more spending, to approve more spending for ukraine. there was this issue that they

actually have more money than they thought for ukraine given there was some kind of an accounting error. i don't know exactly how the white house portrayed this and what officials said to you about this, but that's one of the reasons they continue to fund and come up with more funding, and they say it's an continuing error. we didn't account for it properly, which means we have more money for ukraine than we thought with did. >> right. it delays the time they would go back to congress to ask for more money. last month when the president asked to pass a supplemental bill, the amount of democrats who held the house of representatives was much more. than they asked for. part of the reason was that they knew republicans were taking control. they did build in this pad of money that will allow them to sustain support, and the date i heard thrown around is in

september when the spending process will have to begin again. that's an open question of how many republicans will come on board with that. so i think when president biden speaks today, one of the things i think he'll want to convey to the press torque , to the world who are listening to this press conference, he is confident this support for ukraine will be sustained, and i think you'll hear that from others with as they prepare to leave. >> kevin, we see the president now and we want to take you to hiroshima, japan, where president biden will take the podium. >> please have a seat. good evening, everyone. before turning to the important work we accomplished here at the g7, i want to take a few minutes to address the budget negotiations that i'm heading back home to deal with. before i left for this trip, i met with all four congressional

leaders, and we agreed the only way to move forward was in a bipartisan agreement, and i've done my part. we put forward a proposal that cuts spending by more than a trillion dollars. on top of the nearly $3 trillion in deficit reduction that i previously proposed through the combination of spending cuts and new revenues. now it's time for the other side to move. there are extreme positions because much of what they've already supposed is simply, quite frankly, unacceptable. let me be clear. i'm not going to protect a $30 million tax break for the oil industry which made $200 billion last year. they don't need an incentive of another $30 billion while putting the health care of 21 million americans at risk by going after medicaid. i'm not going to agree to a deal that protect $2/00 billion in excess payments for

pharmaceutical industries and refusing to count that while cutting over 100,000 school teachers and assistance jobs, 30,000 law enforcement officers jobs cut across the entire united states of america. i'm not going to agree to a deal that employee texts wealthy tax cheats and crypto traders while putting food assistance at risk for nearly 1 million americans. it's time for the republic to accept there's no bipartisan deal to be made solely, solely on their partisan terms. i havewith me that the default an option. and i expect each of these leaders to live up to that commitment. america has never defaulted. never defaulted on our debt. and it never will. the speaker and i will be talking later on the plane as we head bac