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sandoval and kylie atwood. also joining us is melanie's a known. tonight, biden and speaker mccarthy were at the white house trying to negotiate a deal on the looming debt limit deadline. that date is june 1st. even agreement cannot be reached by then, experts warn of a global recession that could take years to recover from. so let's get right to melanie where we have reporting on behind the scenes talks. melanie what's happening at this hour? >> alison, i just dashed over from the capitol. as we speak, representative for the white house and the speaker's office are meeting and kevin mccarthy told us earlier today that they are going to work through the night to try to hammer out a deal or at least get closer to a deal because they have been very far apart. in fact, we did see boxes of pizza and insomnia cookies being wheeled into the speaker's office, subtly no they're digging in for a long night. just the fact that they are talking, that they are still committed to getting a deal is a positive sign because this weekend we saw a huge setback, it was pretty tumultuous a lot of heated rhetoric and kevin

mccarthy emerged from his one-on-one meeting with biden striking a pretty optimistic tone. let's take a listen to that. >> i felt that we had a productive discussion, we do not have an agreement yet but i did feel that the discussion was productive in areas that we had differences of opinion. i believe that we can still get there. i believe that we can get it done. >> so, some very cautious optimism i would say there. but, today was a reset. a much-needed reset and sometimes and these high stakes negotiations everyone just needs to cool off take a step back before they can come back to the table. i will say that there is a lot of issues to work through and not a lot of time to get it done. but we will see what they do tonight, alison. >> if an insomnia cookies cannot reset, i don't know what can. before we bring in the panel, let's turn to representative george santos, melanie, i understand you have news reporting? >> you might remember that i

was democrats trying to force a floor vote expos and toes from congress, and all of his republican colleagues helped to stop the efforts so instead of voted on the resolution they voted to refer to the house resolution committee. a delay tactic. i'm told that george santos was going around today giving out thank you letters to his colleagues who helped spare him, at least for now. i want to read part of that letter. he said, i want to personally thank you for your support ignoring the vote for my expulsion to the ethics committee. this is as been an especially difficult time in my point -- now more than ever the republican majority needs to stick together and you demonstrated to great dedication anchored by putting differences aside to allow the proper process to play out. we will see how long that goodwill lasts, because the house exit ethics committee is looking at this and mccarthy said that if they determined that they broke the law and he deserves to be expelled, they are going to follow through on, that i wasn't. >> melanie, standby because i

want to bring in my panel for everything that we talked about thus far. okay, so, there is a lot happening actually this week erica. >> first thing on the show, this is why we are such good friends. there is a lot happening, what's fascinating to me is not just the cookies in the pizza because those are important signs that we should be looking at, but the fact that we are still here and there is this sense that it is going to get done, the calendar is really not in anyone's favor. even if there is a deal tonight -- >> they can still do it right? >> they still have time but if you look at the legislative process that has to play out, this is scary. and i wonder how much people are trying to wrap their head around it. >> i'm not sure that we fully do grasp, it partly because we have been here so many times before and how many times, the old line, there have been as many debt ceiling crisis as there have been summer olympics over the last decade or so. we have been there that many

times, every single time that we seem to pull or sells out of it. so i think that gets deer point, maybe this time will be different, but now, as you, know they're eating their cookies and pizza and everything else by kindergarten or could possibly dream of. you know, maybe once again, the idea that they will come up with a deal magically out of nowhere seems to be -- >> i think there is a boy who cried wolf quality to these things for sure. i'm always on the lookout for it, but i would be cautioned that this time is different. >> i think it is different, just because as you guys are saying, we are so close. i mean, we had the secretary of the treasury right to congressional leadership today expressing again how closely actually are. but, what struck me from what mccarthy said from when he came out the white house today was how complimentary he was of the white house negotiators. i think that that is significant because what it demonstrates is that there is a bit of trust that is being built and we know that in washington trust is really a

deficit right now and that is something that we are going to have to build if we are going to get anywhere tonight and in the next two days. >> that's why it's so good to have you the tea leaves readers on. the insomnia cookies, to these are not big signs of progress, but we know that. there >> for mccarthy will be a test for him. he still lot of, prove right out of the gate. so it's gonna be an opportunity for him to show whether or not he can hold on to that trust. >> harry, i'm told the of the important numbers for us? >> i have some numbers, we were talking and there's all the stuff about trump and the classified investigations that are sort of going on. and so i think we have some interesting numbers there, which sort of delve into essentially what is going on there, and what is fascinating to me in terms of trump and the classified documents is that the american public, overwhelmingly, if we pull up the numbers what we essentially see is that when it comes to classified documents, they believe there should be criminal charges, we see 54% of

americans believe that trump should in fact face charges, criminal charges for his handling of classified documents after leaving office. and, also, there are all these different investigations that we have going on. and so, to me, i think it is very interesting that we also see when it comes to all of these different criminal charges that are essentially, perhaps in the air for trump, what do we see should he in fact we allowed to run for president in the 2024 cycle, look at this. 57% of americans believe that, in fact, trump should be disqualified from running in 2024. just 38% of americans believe he should be allowed to run. here's the key nugget, what about republicans? what do they think about all of the stuff? and here is what we see, shortly in fact rally around trump or should we try to find somebody new? look at this, 68% of republicans believe that the gop must support him, 26% of americans, or republicans excuse me, believe he should step aside. so this big sort of break

between what republicans think and what the american public thinks on this. >> that's pretty fascinating. it's not all that surprising right? this is the reality that we see play out in these primaries. we heard today from tim scott, who is announcing that he is running for president officially, and he said that he believes that he is essentially the most threatening candidate to the democrats, but does that matter in a primary? we are coming up to a period where, what matters and the primary is what the republican voters, or whether democratic voters on the democratic side are looking for. and, as you are saying, we have seen them rally around trump right until this point. >> that 38% that you just showed us who think that he can, run that is exactly his base. >> to your point, kelly would talk about primaries, that is what is important. it's the base, it's who shows up for primaries. it's not all voters, and in fact a number of americans cannot vote in primaries.

depending on the state where you live, if you're registered independent, in certain states you can side, but the reality is that the most zealous voters and engaged voters for both parties are typically who make up the majority of those are gonna go out and vote in a primary and are looking at republicans. those tend to be folks who are most energized for trump. or, his brand of politics. >> i was fascinated, he bribed him's got, i was fascinated by his announcement today because i thought it was out of a different era. i felt like i was 12 years old again watching george w. bush running in 2000. the compassionate conservatism, our best days are ahead of us. and, if you look at the polling, what in fact most republicans believe that our best days are behind. us make america great again. so i just view all of this, and i view this with the trump scandals and the idea that all of these guys are trying to run against him, and, first time

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we're just getting the story into our newsroom. the secret service is investigating a crash involving a u-haul truck that they say collided with security barriers on the north side of lafayette square at 16th street.

this is just before it tempe am tonight. officers with a secret service detained the driver of this truck, spokesman -- there's a spokesman there who says, quote, there is no injuries to any secret service or white house personnel and the cause and manner of the crash remains under investigation. of, course we will stay on top of the story. we will bring you any new developments. okay, meanwhile, the governor of new york and new york city's mayor are pleading with the biden ministration for help with the surge of migrants. they want a change in federal work rules that would allow migrants to obtain work ferments which would also solve a labor shortage. >> this is an issue that is affecting our economy it's not just individuals it's affecting us with a historic labor shortage. at the same time. given the historic later shortage, we also have this unprecedented influx of individuals arriving in new

york. all of them legally seeking asylum they are eager to work. they want to work. >> polo was reporting on this for us, public with the math. we have a need for foreign jobs, and things like janitorial services, and we have an influx of people who want those kinds of jobs, it's. attrit is the problem? >> the argument that we're hearing from officials is that we have up to 70,000 asylum seekers in new york city in the last year alone, those are potential workers that could help when it comes to the job shortage. but, the solution is really not that easy. in fact, the last two weeks alone, we have seen around 10,000 people come in and what we have heard, time and time again, over the last year new york city mayor eric adams and amplified by the state governor kathy hochul, is that they are calling on the white house to expedite the process, really what it takes to be able to secure that legal work

authorization. there is no doubt, and i've heard many people say that they will find off the books employment. that certainly does not come with certain protections and they are not contributing to the economy. so the argument for locals in new york is put them to work, expedite the process. not a lot of answers coming through the white house though. >> why? >> the short answer, it is complicated. ultimately, what i've heard from the biden ministration officials is that they are enforcing the law as it is, the uscis has to process these applications in a certain way, so they are basically punting the ball to congress, which we all know is a unlikely that we'll see any kind of immigration reform, so what the process is actually, like the hundred and 80-day asylum, the process that these asylum seekers have to adhere, by they have to weigh, and this is important, 150 days after they submit their petition for asylum before they can request that work authorization, and they cannot get their hands on that document that loves them to work for an extra 30 days. do the math, you have the

hundred 80 days, and then this is without counting of the major backlog that we have seen the federal government with a federal government now taking months to process this because of the, again, because of the man's. so, this is really the solution that i keep hearing by governor hochul, and clearly they do have an agenda. then there is quite upset that -- after 350 million, 350 million i should say, and so i've also heard that i still get texts often from people who want to know where they can show up to stand in line to get employment. so it really is extremely difficult and it is very difficult with so many people who, they are stuck in unemployment linda bow. >> it's maddening on every single level because again, this country needs them and they are here legally. so, in other words, if they have come in to apply for asylum, that we do not know if they will be granted asylum, but that does the legal process until congress changes it.

so they are going to have to wait six months to, work though they are needed and they need money and workers are needed. yeah -- >> have you talked to any of these migrants and actually tracked how long it takes from the day that they arrive in a city like new york until they are actually able to work? it doesn't it amount to about six months? >> last summer we had not petunia to speak with young one young man from minnesota who came here with his family. he used to do construction work in venezuela. here he has now had to go as far as traveling to florida to help with hurricane cleanup to try to make a few bucks, they're basically scraping by detritus support his family. his wife and two children, and they even have a dog that they brought from venezuela. so it does speak to the desperation and i do not really see a solution here anytime soon. now, kathy hochul said that she was in washington couple of days ago and that they do not have a flat know from the biden administration, i can tell you that we have not really seen any kind of forward momentum because it is the idea of eric adams that the president has

the power of the pan. yes, any kind of executive action would probably be challenged by republicans, but they have not seen that kind of an issue. but biden is not doing things for some reason. >> are there any republicans, we are talking about new york city and we are talking about new york city. so we're talking about democratic leaders, but are there any republican support, or even any republican pressure on the white house where this is also seen as a helpful solution in many areas? because it's not just new york city and new york state? >> it's a good question, you have not heard a whole lot from republicans in washington, regarding the work authorization issue. the concern among many republicans would be that, if you do expedite the process, and make potentially a path for citizenship, so those concerns from conservatives. but we have heard from industry leaders and they are, they continue to say that they can provide the five or six weeks training for entry level jobs. but they do not have that support. and when you talk about the

numbers, and you mention was the farms, we do have some numbers to share. just gives viewers an idea of what the governor says are some of the opportunities that could be out there. we are talking 5000 storm jobs according to the governor, the hospitality industry as well is 4000. and then those janitorial and housekeeping jobs about 4000 in all. this is just in new york state. we need to remind viewers that i was just on the border last week and i heard over and over again that they are setting their compass for denver or colorado for the services they provide. they could provide transportation -- so there are many cities throughout the country that could potentially tap into this, because it is now becoming clearer and clearer it is more than just a humanitarian crisis, it now is the potential economic impact as well. >> well thank you for explaining this maddening catch-22 that the country seems to be caught in right now. >> a last quickly, numbers have dropped along the border in terms of apprehensions, but

numbers that we keep seeing in the city continued to rise. >> thank you for all that. meanwhile, the man suspected of killing for college students in idaho appearing in court for an arraignment, hearing but caught bryan kohberger -- the judge entered his guilty plea. why? eric is reporting on this story, and she's gonna walk us through that next.

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a judge in idaho entering not guilty pleas on behalf of brian kohberger, who remained silent during his arraignment. kohberger was indicted on four

counts of first degree murder and one count of burglary in the stabbings of four university of idaho students in november. there is also a new development in the case of mallory -- she is the british toddler who disappeared in portugal in 2007. erica is following both the story for us. let's start in idaho, why didn't kohberger say that he was guilty or not guilty? >> there was the big question, because we actually did hear him speak in court. the judge went through each of the charges, asked him if he understood each of these five charges, he said yes. also asked if he understood that anything he said in court could essentially be used against, he said yes i do. but he did not choose to enter a plea, his attorney said that he is going to stand silent. so why would he do? this i reached out to a good friend, defense the tourney joey jackson, and said if anybody is going to know why, there's a lot of speculation all day, could there be a plea deal in the works behind the scenes? could there be some other reason that he did not want to speak. he did not want to say not guilty in court, if they are working on something else.

joy said to me, in his view, there is no legal or practical benefit to staying silent. it is sort of strange, but it is also his right. he does not have to speak, he does not have to weigh in if he does not want. to the judge could enter the plea for him. again, there are plenty of theories. the other thing that joey said to me that i thought was interesting was, who knows, maybe who this guy want people to speculate about. it maybe that is it. you look at alleged killers, alleged perhaps killers who have a very healthy sense of self -- >> an ego. >> they may want to play a mind game. >> it was fascinating, definitely getting a lot of discussion. >> are you perplexed? >> i must have -- my father was a judge, but my understanding of the law is just not to break it. i found it to be, this could be something where is this normal? i guess joey -- >> it can be done, it is maybe

a little odd, but there is nothing illegal about it. so it is what it is, so there is a trial scheduled for october. so the clock starts ticking, the prosecution have to say in writing whether they plan to seek the death penalty. >> who else was in court? >> -- family was in court. we have some reporting from one of our affiliates, they were fixed on the defendant the entire time in court, he did not really look at them. >> only one of the college students families where there? >> as far as i know, i've not seen reporting of other families being there. >> it is such a mysterious and disturbing and crazy story because it is not that often that you encounter what might be here a serial killer or psychopath, and so to study him. obviously he's not been convicted yet there's a lot of interest. >> who has studied the matter. given his academic history, it

is also fascinating. >> he was giving's ph.d. in criminology. >> did he know what was happening, did he study core proceedings as well? i can imagine he did or at least browsed through a book on it. it is fascinating to see that this is part of his plan, or his defense i should say. >> i shoot it is also interesting when he rose a theory that maybe he wanted people to start talking about, him not speaking in court if he is someone who had this criminal mind that was you know thinking through his different strategies for killing these women in this awful way. maybe he was thinking about that, who knows. but i also think that this town, i was looking it up, they have not had a recorded murder on the books since 2015. this is a small, town it's like 20 or 25,000 people. the fact that this happened there it is we are talking about a criminal, we're talking about somebody who obviously has mental issues. but it is struck the entire nerve of the town.

>> and the way that it happened. it is also grisly and -- why don't we know more details? it has been a while now. >> you are right, we do not know a lot, because there is this indictment through the grand jury. so we did not see evidence presented in court, so we are not going to see much for sometime unless this gag order is lifted. the other is that we do not know a lot is because there is a pretty broad greg order, so there are a couple of hearing coming up in june i, it's been a couple of weeks, one it will deal with the families who are coming forward and saying hey we want to be able to speak out. and then the media saying, hey, we need to know a little bit so right now this gag order applies to the prosecutors and the attorneys, so we will see what the judge says at that point. two hearings on june 9th. also we are expected to get an answer about cameras in the courtroom. >> let's talk about madeleine -- obviously this is a case in 2007 that gripped the world because we have all seen her

picture, we all felt so second by the idea that you can go on a family vacation and your daughter is abducted. so is there new evidence? >> here's what we know. according to our reporting and our colleagues at cnn portugal, there is reportedly a tip that came from germany. so now there is a new surge that is supposed to get underway, in a matter of hours, this is going to be tuesday morning. so we saw what our colleague saw today at the site of the police in portugal basically setting up shop that they are going to be doing a search of this reservoir area, it is about 30 miles from where madeleine mccann was last seen. and it is because of a tip that came from germany. that is where the extent of what we know, but we also know that german police and british police will be, there they will not be conducting a search, but they will be there sort of observing and it will be a portuguese authorities who are carrying this out and we are telling that it was last. today's >> do we think there's evidence after 16 years? >> the fact that they are

talking about a reservoir, right, you would 16 years so tha of searched in 2008, something called divers action defined -- while those will be a search ig land not water. so the same area, but again the area was searched in 2008, but this is going to be land. so we will see. >> did they searched the land in 2008 as well? i assume yes? >> one would think, about they're going back and they're very specific to say that they're looking at the one and in this case, not the water. >> the question is where did they come from all the time? >> the fact that came from, germany you might remember in 2020 there is a 45-year-old german man who had spent a number of years living in portugal, so he was this christian -- he was named as a suspect but never charged. what was interesting was that there were some charges related to several other separate cases that did involve sexual offenses and portugal. over the years, but again is never been charged in this case.

he's maintained his innocence, he says he has no involvement here. but it is really questions that it is a german man who came from germany, could these things be related. at this, 0.16 years, later every little nugget you're wondering if there's connections. >> everybody wishes of the authorities had acted to foster. i mean, sooner, to do all of those. the fact that we are still here 16 years later. thank you very much for the update, keep us posted on that story. just ahead, cnn exclusive with paul whelan, the american who is wrongfully detained in russia. kylie is going to explain the developments for us, next.

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american paul whelan and a former u.s. marine wrongly attained in russia for more than four years. speaks to cnn in a rare interview from a remote prison camp about 200 miles outside of moscow. he tells cnn that he fears being left behind again, it's an agreement is made for the release of wall street journal reporter evan -- who is detained two months ago. despite his concerns, whalen's tone was optimistic. >> i have been told that i will not be left behind, and i have been told that, although evan's case is a priority, mine is also a priority and people are cognizant of the fact that this is having a extremely negative impact on me and my family. i'm told that the government is working tirelessly to get me

out of here and to get me home so that they can focus an effort on evan and his case. >> kylie has more on this exclusive interview for us. tell us about, those how did it come about? >> so jennifer handler, who is a reporter at the state department worked with me incredibly closely on tracking these stories. she is really close with the family of paul whelan, and over the course of the number of years that he's been wrongly detained in russia, more than four and a half years, now he is actually called her, this is the third time that he is cold air from prison. he is able to call his family a few times a week, and then every once in a while he picks up the phone and give circle. but we do not know exactly is if behind the scenes the russians in the prison are allowing these phone calls to go through, or not allowing them to go through because i do think that it would be outside of bounds to assume that russians who are monitoring an american who is detained in

russian prison are monitoring very closely who is going. so maybe there's a motivation, the russians want him to be speaking out publicly right now to get some attention on to this case. but, truthfully, what we know is that he picks up the phone and he's able to use one of the phone calls to call jennifer. >> because these calls are so, where did you detect something different in this call, was he more optimistic? >> he was, and the great thing is that you can listen to the reporting of the call and you hear the tone of his voice in his call. it is a bit more optimistic than it was the last time that there was a phone call, which was back in december. that was right after britney griner, the wnba star had just been released for as part of a prisoner swap that got her out of the country, left him in jail. he was really down trodden after that. now there is another american who's -- evan and he is concerned that there might be a deal that could release evan and not him. but, he has a bit of a more hopeful tone.

the reason that he says is because he has seen what u.s. officials have said publicly about this. we just heard from president biden at the white house correspondents dinner talking about paul whelan and doing everything that his administration can't get him out. and i do think that we have a clip from what paul whelan said would be his message to the president. let's just listen to that. >> freedom is not free, it comes at a price. but the loss of freedom is even more costly, and i pay that cost every day that russia holds me. please follow through with your promise to make commitments, truly make my life a priority and get me home. >> getting him home, because a spoke about being in a russian jail and it's poor conditions, it's forced labor, it is tremendously challenging for him physically and mentally. so it is great that he has this optimism that he is heard in his voice, but when you speak with his family members they

are very concerned about that optimism and how long it can last. >> can you imagine? >> i can't. you have family members to, so his sister, elizabeth was speaking with erin burnett earlier tonight, shoes -- he was talking about the way that food is being rationed, because of the sanctions in ukraine and how they are taking, they are actually taking the beats out of the boorish before they serve to them. it sounded like they are almost saving them for the next batch. but she also expressed concern that all of this optimism that you hear in his voice, that people get the wrong idea, that he was sort of content, which i found really interesting be that there is that concern, could he sound almost too optimistic to people and make it seem like he does not need help. there must, speedier point kylie, we think about why certain calls are getting, through it is interesting that this call is able to get through at this moment. and it makes you wonder why. >> we've seen these families, or these individuals who are wrongfully detained use different tactics at different

times. we have seen them go in front of the white house and protest, and man meetings with the president, but when there have been positive developments, we have seen them really positively say nice things about the administration. so i do think that there is an element of recognition that they need to send different messages about how they are doing, what actions they want to see, at different times. >> also paul, can you imagine being, wrongfully detained and other people getting out before you? i mean, that must be -- >> trevor reed. >> and now this idea of a third, and the hopeful tone that you hear in his voice, but you certainly hope that his family is also going to be and gives them a second win in the fight gave a moment. well >> the other complicated thing, just to add about paul whelan, is that he's actually being charged with espionage. and the russians take charges of espionage incredibly seriously. what they expect in terms of

any potential deal to get him out would be, in return, getting someone who's connected to russia's intelligence gathering operations. we do not have any high level russian spies in u.s. custody right now, so that makes it altogether that much more challenging. >> who do we trade? >> we're scouring the globe right now. u.s. officials i've talked to are going to denmark, they are going to germany, they are looking for russian spies who allies have that we could potentially offer up. but what they are -- i wonder the folks who have been there is a lot of public pressure especially from interest groups who are close with a president who want to see released. i've not really seen necessarily at least as an observer who is not fully in the story, the public pressure, but the limited polling data that i looked at said that the public release biden should do more. but i've not seen that same public pressure in this case.

no, you're, right i think it's unfortunate but it's also a reality. paul whelan, he's an expert, and he sort of it's more of a normal american right? and britney griner was a star. she is arguably the best american female basketball player. there was a tremendous amount of attention. and i think we are seeing a large amount of attention also on evan crush covid shot, because he is a wall street journal reporter and he is not famous by any means, but when reporters are reporting on reporters, there is a certain level of attention that is paid. and so that is a sad reality i think for paul whelan, but the fact that britney griner is still bringing this up? she has made a point in their public appearance to talk about the other americans wrongfully detained around the world. and the need to bring them home. she is trying to keep that momentum going which i think is worth noting. >> thank you very much for keeping us all of later on this.

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but legally it has even been disrupting some flights. so what the mexican government has been doing is putting out 3 million people on standby in towns and villages to be at least surrounding it. plus, also telling people that live around a 60 route mile radius around this thing, which are about 25 million people to also keep a close eye on it. because there could potentially be evacuations at some point. it is also disrupting travel. just over the weekend there was some flights in and out of the mexico city airborne that had to rayyanah barnawi be either canceled or delayed. so it's one of -- closely watching. and i will say it with me, guys, [speaking non-english] >> whoa, whoa. >> it means smoking mountain. >> it is in fact a smoking mountain. fantastic, it is good to know that your hobby is volcanoes, and mexico. got it >> got it -- i am watching, there is a russian minister who mysteriously died on a flight

this week. and he was flying from cuba back to russia. he had been critical of the ukraine war and there were some journalists that spoke up again about him having conversations with them before he had died. about how to how challenging it had been to be in russia during the ukraine war. i doubt that we will find out much more of the circumstances surrounding his death, because we have seen a bunch of these critics of the ukraine war mysteriously die. i think the russians, if it was them, if it was the kremlin behind, they are probably going to hide how this went down. but we might learn more about his precise criticisms of the u.s. ukraine war over the coming days and weeks as people who knew him talk about him, and i think that could be really interesting. >> okay, thank you very much for that. >> eric? >> mine is not anywhere near as serious as that. but it does make me reflect. which is that tomorrow is the anniversary of the series finale of full house. which took place on that day all the way back in 1995. >> are you a big hopeful house fan?

>> i love full house. >> i didn't know this. >> of course, the theme song, great jesse frederik. it's one of those things that reminds me, well, yes, i am as jan in some ways but the fact that that was 28 years ago tomorrow reminds me that perhaps i'm not as young as i like to think that i am. a lot of nostalgia. >> poignant, very poignant, harry, thank you for that. >> a lot in that. >> a lot to unpack. >> very, deep started with a full house and went down from there, you're right. >> okay, erica? >> well speaking of maybe sort of feeling your age, i was really struck by a piece in the new york times this morning about workplaces becoming more friendly to women who are going through meta pause. and this push to talk about menopause and talk about the symptoms and talk about what it is. what was shocking to me is that this is a big effort in germany where there have been studies, parliament has talked about this. and this is now a thing in other places. some of the examples that we

have seen. in britain this is because menopausal women in britain are the fastest workforce demographic. so they are trying to change the stigma, they are talking about it more. they are having people in the workplace who are sort of better pause ambassadors for lack of a better term. so we'll talk about, it will talk, but it will get comfortable talking about our changing bodies, friends. so you can talk about math opposed to reduce the stigma. sharing with people the symptoms of perry meta pause, erica, i feel like you are a meta pause motivator. >> i feel like, you know when you go to a bar mitzvah and there is -- i feel like -- >> news flash, this is actually my new job here at cnn. i am going to be the man on pause -- >> those are some of the concessions being made, someplace they are giving women a fan on their desks. ladies take a little time and -- understand when you get that little fog -- >> -- i see you have a lot to say with, this they wrap me minutes ago but i let you continue.

thank you, all great to have you here tonight okay, tomorrow on cnn, this morning, united airlines ceos scott kirby joins to discuss the state of flying and whether we can avoid having more -- thanks to much, our coverage continues right now.

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