but fudging the whale, if you flip it upside down was santa claus. >> that blew my mind when i discovered that -- if you haven't back -- i think he did a letterman appearance where he sang one of the songs. >> so how popular is ice cream? i know you're the data guy, i know you're going to present some data. >> i do have some data for you. it is the number one desert among u.s. adults. fruit came in second at 25%, and this is the type of polling data that makes me not believe polls, because the idea that american adults would say that nearly as many would say that fruit is their favorite as ice cream, shows me that there is social desirability come coming on here. i love fruit. fruit is fantastic. >> blueberries. >> i do love blueberries. but they are not as good as ice cream. >> what are the most popular flavors? >> this one surprised me. this came -- >> or they're actually polls on this? >> there are polls on everything, man. chocolate interestingly enough came in at number one, i was a little surprised. cookies and cream number two, vanilla was three, strawberry

at four. but chocolate is my favorite, so this is a poll that i really do believe in. i am. >> thank you very much. news continues, cnn primetime starts now. anderson, thank you very much. good evening everyone. tonight, two notable developments in the special counsel's investigation of donald trump, including word of yet another subpoena involving the former president's finances. according to notes that evan corcoran took of his conversations with his client, donald trump, the former president, wanted to fight the subpoena that it demanded that

he returned classified documents that he had no right to have after his time in office. these notes taken by cochrane are providing more insight into trump's thinking and his actions around the time that criminal investigation was launched. and now, they sit in the hands of the special counsel, jack smith. joining us now is john dean, he was the white house counsel for richard nixon, and just like evan corcoran, john, you testified about your conversations with president nixon. so, as you listen to what has been reported here, in your mind, why would there even be dozens of pages of documents, notes about what to do with a lawful subpoena? should that conversation between attorney and client be pretty short? >> i know mr. trump in the past has said that he was surprised when his white house counsel were keeping notes. i didn't keep notes when i was white house counsel, and i didn't know there was a taking

system, which fortunately was there. the immediate problem for evan cochrane is that she, i think, did suspect his client was a little squirrelly. d ow how things are we're going to turn out, so he kept detailed notes, apparently. down to, as reported, such things as his facial expressions during conversations. >> yeah. it does seem to suggest that corcoran had a sunset vet something was going to come back and needed to be documented. one of the sources described conference notes as over the details. another source said that some were surprised at the level of detail. do you think that corcoran could also have been trying to protect himself? >> i think that there is a good reason to suspect that that is the case. i think that we don't know what is in the notes at this point.

we know that they were valuable enough to the prosecutors that they went to court and got a judge to say that it appears that there is evidence to indicate that the former president was taking advantage of that council to commit a crime. and that is the exception which judges don't like to do. that is a very sacred privilege, so judges are very aware of it and it is very telling to us as spectators at this point, that we are seeing a case that is being built, and there are judges that are looking at this evidence seeing evidence of criminal behavior by mr. trump. >> yeah, that crimes fraud exception was found by the judge in this case, a very high bar. no here's what sources close to trump are saying. they are saying that he was asking his lawyer, corcoran, for legal advice. when he asked about whether they could fight the subpoena. so if you are a prosecutor and you are examining these notes, how do you determine, what is the line between a -- trump trying to obstruct justice, getting out of the subpoena, and trump --

let's play devils advocate, trump could have been playing devils advocate in that moment. that is what his hates are suggesting. here >> as i piece together the reporting, it seems that what might have happened is that he might have legitimately probed his lawyer. but he took the advice his wire gave him and turned around and shared it with someone else, and they appear to have moved documents and things of that nature. to try to avoid it being uncovered and discovered. so that is the sort of thing that these notes could tell us and lead us to a better understanding of. that would show his criminal intent. whether or not it is willful, or whether it's an obstruction, it appears the obstruction case's most prominent and strongest at this point. >> so there is another detail that is a very interesting that we are learning from the new york times. they are reporting that prosecutors have also issued a subpoena about trump's foreign businesses in seven specific

countries. china, france, turkey, saudi arabia, kuwait, and the united arab emirates. what does it say to you that they are looking at these deals, deals that date back to 2017, meaning, while trump was still president of the united states? >> the fact that it goes back throughout his presidency is very telling, that they are looking to see what he might have shared. i think there is good reason to do that. what he shared of an intelligence nature. we know that he did it well in the oval office, when he gave ambassador lavrov, clearly sources and methods which was a troublesome thing. but here, my immediate reaction

when asking him at the town hall, have you ever shared any of this information with anybody, the answer that most people would have given was, of course i didn't. this was national security information. trump's answer was, i don't recall. that's just -- it's not surprising that the special counsel is trying to find out who in the world was this man dealing with, and what might have been an occasion that he could have shared this information, or what motive might have been for the information. >> i think this speaks to a major question that we still have, which is the why of it all. why would he want to keep the documents, what is the motive as you just said. turning to one of the other legal cases that the former president has been embroiled in, this is dealing with e. jean carroll's defamation and sexual assault case against him.

it seems now that she is wanting to amend this case, based on his comments and that cnn town hall. i want you to take a listen to this. >> they said he didn't rape her. i didn't do anything else either. because i have no idea who the how she is. >> mister president can i ask -- >> they said sir, don't do this. this is a fake story, and you don't want to give it credibility. >> one thing you did do in -- this [applause] >> i swear, i have never done that. i don't know who the -- she's a whack job. >> she's a whack job. so what do you make of today's

filings? are you surprised at all? >> not at all. i think that what was done was very thoughtful, it wasn't a new case that was filed, it was filed against the original complaint which was done back in november of 2019, and that has been bouncing around the courts over who can represent trump, whether because he was president when he said that, the department of justice should be involved in this and that has not been -- it has gone up to two court of appeals and now back into district court. that's where she amended it, back there, and it shows punitive damages. in many of these issues, in the original case that has already been tried, it's the same judge, he's very savvy, he knows what's going on. it was a brilliant move and i think that trump could end up paying another five or more million dollars as a result of his slips. >> not the only comment that he made in that town hall that could end up having some real legal repercussions for him. john dean, thank you very much for all of that. >> thank you. in just ten days, the united states will run out of cash and won't be able to pay its bills, and tonight, it seems like both sides are finally getting

serious, as the u.s. treasury secretary ramps up her warnings that the u.s. is still on track to default for the first time in history. so, after a week of staff level negotiations, president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy, they picked up the baton at the white house today. but there is still no deal, after that 90 minute meeting. still, there are some signs of progress. before we get to their comments, keep in mind that the nation's economy is sitting on a ticking time bomb. if the nation falls, for one case not stacks, social security and medical benefits will disappear, and everything from military checks to food stamp payments, they won't arrive. so here is president biden before the meeting. >> we all talk about the needs

for a bipartisan agreement. we have to be in a position where we can sell it to our constituencies. we have to get something on both sides. >> and here is kevin mccarthy after the meeting. >> i thought we had a productive meeting. we don't have an agreement yet, but i did feel the discussio n was productive in areas that we have differences in opinion, we will have the staffs to continue to get back together and work on some of the things we have talked about. >> joining me now is entrepreneur and shark tank host kevin o'leary. so kevin, you have said repeatedly that you believe there is a 100% chance that a debt deal gets done. i have to wonder, are you in the markets maybe putting too much faith in washington's ability to get their act

together here? >> no, because the markets globally have seen this movie multiple times before. there are some signs that you can actually tell what this will look like, because we are getting so close to the deadline, this will be a short term thing. it won't go past the election. i think probably, if you think about it from a political point of view, you want to keep roasting biden on the philosophy between holding the line on tax increases and cutting spending. that's what's at stake here on this video. the chance that there is no deal is zero. >> but isn't that a pretty disastrous outcome for the country? to have a short term deal that lasts a couple months and puts us right back where we were all over again? >> no, because we have seen that movie before too.

this is pure politics. the reason you know with certainty that this is going to get worked out, is the market itself. you can look at the two year, the ten year, the 30 year, and if anybody thought that there was not going to be a deal, it would be trading in double digit yields. the market would have already fielded out and figured out that this would be a very bad outcome. that's not the case. you have the nasdaq heading new highs, and people are very optimistic unemployment, so this is a bump in the road. politics at its best is a classic washington d. c. don't watch the sausage being made. just eat the sausage. and we will get the sausage and about 36 hours probably. you are not going to like this deal because it will be so short term, but i guarantee we will get one. it would be political suicide not to get a deal. everybody knows that. >> that's probably true, but you do have a lot of lawmakers in the congress suggesting that maybe that deadline is not real. maybe they don't have to pay all the dots at once. they could just do the interest. you have bill cassidy saying yesterday, maybe the date is not june 1st, it is june 15. so the fuzzy deadlines and uncertainty, does that way on the markets? will they start to worry as we get closer and closer to that deadline? >> that is a really bad idea.

yellin has been out of the markets globally every 48 hours saying june 1st is the drop that date. now, if you want to start talking about a date after that, it's like two teenagers in 66 chevrolet's playing chicken. that is a very bad idea. very bad. and so that won't happen either. everybody knows when yellin keeps saying every 48 hours it's june 1st, that's the target. they are going to get this thing done and you will see some real motion and movement in the next 48 hours. it will happen. but it's not going to be a long term deal. this is going to become an election issue, and i think that's okay. i think it's a great idea to debate the heart and soul of spending versus tax increases. >> kevin, we have no time left, but if you don't see a deal in the next 48 hours, would you start to worry? >> no. seen this movie, seeing the ending, not worried. >> all right. hope springs eternal, we will take your word for it

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republican from south carolina, making his bid for the presidency official. >> i'm announcing today that i'm running for president. >> senator scott promised to take on a so-called radical left in his announcement, while also highlighting his life story and christian faith. but notably absent from his speech was any mention of his opponents, including former president donald trump. joining me now at the table is cnn political commentators errol louis and anna navarro. alyssa farah griffin, and philadelphia inquirer columnist solomon jones. so here we are as expected, tim scott is in. but errol, we are talking about lanes again. what's his lane? is there one for him? >> the lane i heard him talking to and about today was the evangelical base of the republican party. that we know is a big part of

his support in south carolina. if he wants to get beyond the 1% or he is polling right now nationally, he will have to expand. it but he, like so many others, seems to imagine that there is some way to sort of keep -- that social conservative base, build it, take it away from donald trump, and then somehow and how it. it is maybe a bridge too far, but that is sort of the three -step path to victory that he is suggesting to try. >> the thing about tim scott that is usually the first thing, if you work in washington, he's a likable guy. people in the house of congress like him a lot. and -- >> people should know that doesn't happen with everyone. >> right. the unspoken truth is that something -- some of this is the life story that really is very inspiring. he's the child of a single parent that grew up basically

with not very much. can a nice guy really succeed in today's republican party? >> i'm not sure that that's the question. first of all, he's succeeding in south carolina, so i think you have -- you asked me what his -- what his lane is, i think it's the senate. present -- any -- and, we haven't seen any of them debts and. i, i am a renegade republican right now who barely likes any republican. i happen to like tim scott. and i happen to find him unifying optimistic, a happy person, and it's probably the reason i like him and i like the idea of you coming into this race, is because i compare him to godzilla and king kong who are going to be there. donald trump and ron desantis, both of whom are full of anti-everything, grievances. anger, conspiracy theories, fights against lgbtq and a pea history, black history, and the depth lacey p is issuing a travel advisory against going to florida. so the idea that you have somebody who wants to offer an optimistic even if he has zero chance of

winning. >> does he have zero chance of winning? >> not zero, but it's not high. listen, today was a great day for tim scott. the announcement is always the best day for a candidate. it will be a challenge from here. right now, you cannot get into the race and ignore donald trump. he is pulling near more than double digits ahead the next person that was next to him. -- that changed under donald trump. i don't think that that is the strongest voting bloc, and by the way, someone who won iowa, which is somewhere that i think tim scott will win very well, has not gone on to win the presidency since george bush. so you have to think about how much the party has changed to this nationalist, populist party that is very different than the lane he is running in.

-- both men who i have a lot of respect for, i think are likable, nice, kind people, it's a good juxtaposition, but it will be hard to get steam without taking on the elephant in the room. >> yeah, i also noted that first of all, tim scott is not running this sort of hard anti trump candidacy. and trump, in turn, is praising tim scott. he put on truth social, good luck to senator tim scott in entering the primary race, it's rapidly loading up with lots of people and tim is a big step up from ron desanctimonious who is totally unelectable. i got opportunities owns done with tim, a big deal that has been highly successful. not only opportunity zones but the sort of criminal justice reform was also led by tim scott. trump doesn't want to talk

about that for other reasons, but what do you make of trump kind of saying nice things here? >> i don't think he sees him as a threat. i don't think you see some of somebody who can win, and that's why he's saying nice things about him. it also goes to what tim scott is saying about donald trump, which is nothing. but i think that he doesn't see him as a threat. tim scott is coming into the race with $22 million. that is more than any presidential candidate has ever started with. and so that's a plus. but you can't win with just money. >> a few more run -- days until iran desantis gets in the race. >> he is not having people call other people. he's already got the money. we'll see what happens. you can't win with just money. he can try to get that evangelical base, but i don't think that donald trump believes he can, and quite

frankly, i don't either. >> here's the thing. speaking of money, tim scott also a has what i like to call a billionaire sugar daddy, larry ellison, who has pledged to spend a lot of money. like $30 million to support him. but the question is not about how valuable is that money, but does that actually make it harder for the gop field too narrow, which it would eventually have to do if they want -- if there are people like alyssa who don't want donald trump to be the nominee? >> the fields will narrow when people start losing primaries. it's much too difficult of an endeavor to engage in just as a lark. although, at this point, i would say for tim scott because it's a free ride for him.

just won reelection, he's got that big fat war chest, he's got senior members of his conference who are supporting him, if he wants to be a big shot, play on the national stage, be a more senior senator so to speak or set himself up for 2028, all of that is available to him. with the help of the oracle fortune from larry ellison. >> so i think that's what you can forget in this argument, and i don't want to be cynical here but i will be for a minute. both nikki haley and tim scott, the statements that donald trump put out -- a tiny little dig into -- i think these are people who see themselves as if they are not able to get what they need to, they are top of the list for potential vp picks. >> not just for trump -- >> i think donald trump was a very irritated biden run desantis, and he should be. i am a floridian, but for donald trump, ron desantis would not have won the primary

the first time he ran. and so i think that donald trump sees him as an ungrateful, when who has ridden his coattails and is now biting the hand that fed. he is not wrong, in that i don't think that he has that same issue with the rest of them. >> yeah. clearly, trump sees desantis as the one and maybe the only significant threat in the field right now. but stay with us, coming up next, dangerous new turn in the war on ukraine. now an attack inside of russia. find out who is being blamed for that, plus, another mysterious death of a russian official who has been critical of the war. christiane almond for is here live in the studio. she will join us next. she will join us next. my dad was a hard worker. he used to do side jobs installing windows, charging something like a hundred bucks a window when other guys were charging four to five-hundred bucks. he just didn't wanna do that. he was proud of the price he was charging. ♪ my dad instilled in me, always put the people before the money. be proud of offering a good product at a fair price. i think he'd be extremely proud of me, yeah. ♪ ♪ you got a minute? how about all weekend? let's go. ahora! i'm a miami hotel. i'm looking for someone who loves art deco elegance,

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at least eight people were injured in those attacks, and russia has accused the sabotage groups of crossing over from ukraine into russia to carry out more combat missions. unlike recent attacks on russian soil, ukraine acknowledge the cross border operation this time, insisting only that the groups acted of their own volition. but this is notable. it's a notable change in tune as ukrainians try to counter russia's claims of victory in bakhmut. the fight of this war's deadliest battle. and as intrigue grows over the death of another russian official who died suddenly after reportedly criticizing the kremlin, cnn's chief international anchor christiane amanpour is joining me now, and christiane we will get to the death of the russian official soon, but we will start with the attacks.

the fact that these groups were able to get over the border into mainland russia and carry out these attacks tells you what about russia's ability to police its own boundaries? >> it is classic sabotage. it is classic counteroffensive by insurgents, right? the ukrainians are not claiming that they are part of the ukrainian army, and you have seen several attacks inside russia over the last many months. let's take the drone attack on the kremlin. i spoke to a former russian mp who deflected and went to ukraine. elliott palmetto. he told me that he believed that that was an act of sabotage by russian partisans. in other words, anti kremlin

russian partisans. and there have been a number of attacks. there was the pro-russian military blogger who was killed in st. petersburg, there was another high official earlier on who was killed in the kremlin, the -- daughter of a friend of putin's, and this clearly is ramping up. and that is what they are claiming to be, anti kremlin russian partisans. >> the other part of this that the ukrainian government sort of acknowledging some kind of affinity here, but also, these attackers were carrying ukrainian gear and ukrainian

weaponry. historically in this conflict there has been a concern about escalation, that might cause the war to get out of hand. is that concern we need? >> i don't know about waning, but you can tell that the u.s. government, the biden administration, has always invoked the slogan world war iii. i'm not going to do anything that will lead to world war iii. most particularly, they started by saying we are not going to give long range missiles because we don't want them to attack inside russia with any of the weaponry that nato gives. and you have seen, as the war has progressed and as the battlefield changes, nato most particularly the united states, ups the ante in terms of what rapidly they're giving. so first it was no, no long range missiles. and then it was no on the anti aircraft defense. and then they got the patriots. and then it was no on the fighter jets, and now the u. s. this weekend, they are going to get the training and the u.s. -- are waving any sort of prohibition on its allies giving ukraine those fighter jets. it's very important that if the united states policy is for ukraine to win, which it keep saying, then they need the actual weaponry to do it. and even i spoke to one of the top generals a year ago. in april, and what they said is that we need long range missiles, and we need aircrafts as well as the other things. ammunition and everything.

>> you saw the ukrainian presenpressing that case at the g7 over the weekend. we started by talking about this death, this mysterious death on an airplane of the deputy science minister. he was critical of putin and he recently told a journalist this. he said save yourself and your family, leave as soon as possible, it is no longer possible to leave. they take away our passports, they are all taking hostages. no one can say anything, otherwise we are immediately crushed like bugs. there are these partisan attacks, these anti-putin regime attacks carrying out and russia, and this mysterious death, it is one of several. by our count it has been at least 11 russian officials. what does this all come together to mean for you? >> essentially, we know that this is not resistance. this is basically people who do not agree with the war and putin has silenced, or they have met mysterious deaths. many of them, whether they are journalists or officials, whether they are private business people, and according to this journalist who you are quoting on a telegram channel,

he writes that this individual, this deputy minister, had urged him to leave, had said what we all know. that no dissent is brooke by the kremlin. no whatsoever. we also know that our divisions about war, those who oppose it anywhere near putin's are silenced. even remotely on social media. and i think that is -- this is what's happening. we are not sure, we don't know how this man died, and he by his own account, according to this journalist, because of his anxiety over this war, not only did he leave, but he said he took handfuls of antidepressants and all sorts of pills. so we don't know how he died. >> but it's one of many mysterious death. >> it is no doubt. the vast majority are still hostage to his war. >> afraid, rightfully so, for their lives. thank you very much. coming up next for us, uber suspends its diversity chief

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for rideshare company uber after it hosted a don't call me karen panel. the event left its employees irate. and now, the rideshare giants head of diversity, equity, and inclusion is on leave. black and hispanic employees say that the focus of the sessions were insensitive to people of color. according to the new york times, employees were concerned that the sessions were built as a diving into th e spectrum of american white woman's experience, and hearing from white women who work at uber with the focus on the karen persona. the invitation said that the conversation was supposed to be open and honest, and uber responded in a statement writing, we have heard that many of you are in pain and upset by us moving forward, while it was meant to be a dialogue, it was obvious that those who attended did not feel heard. let's bring back our panel and for the uninitiated, karen is a term that is popularized on the

internet to basically mean a white woman who calls the authorities for the cops, or calls the managers on a black person doing something that they may think is illegal, even if it may not be. so, where do we even start with us? what do you make of it? >> someone speaking up for the plug of the white woman. it is so absurd. i should not have gone to the u.s.. i could not take it seriously and reading it, it is comical, and it is when you go so far in trying to be inclusive that you lose the whole message behind it. maybe a step too far to put her on lead, she is an asian american woman who went overboard trying to be so inclusive, but it is absurd. you are talking about a history of racism and things that we are grappling with in terms of social justice, and to equate that with the struggle of being a white woman is not really equivalent. >> is this backlash to the backlash?

companies are worried about maybe being too diverse or getting hit for diversity, equity, and inclusion programs? is that what happened here? >> no. i think that black people were rightly offended, and i think that they were offended because you are saying don't call me karen as if this is this slur. that is equivalent to the n-word, something that has this historic meaning and trauma behind it, and all these things. karen is something that just came out a couple years ago. and it's not the same thing. it's not the same thing. and so a black woman stood up in a meeting after that first meeting and said, how are we going to stop having these tone-deaf conversations? and the way that the diversity officer responded, was it

demeaning. she said, you are engaging in strategic ignorance? and so you have this asian woman telling us black women how to respond to the problems of white women, and after a while it becomes comical. >> strategic ignorance. that's a great phrase. this sounds like a company trying to do on the cheap what so many other companies try to do on the cheap, which is force people to try to do a session, and then making them go through a process that doesn't necessarily have a lot of science behind it. so if people aren't confident in the process, they feel like they are checking a box and they are their against their will, and it's not clear what the outcome is supposed to be, you've set yourself up for misunderstanding, which is what they achieved here. not the diversity and inclusion that they sought to do. you can't do it on the cheap. it takes years.

there are plenty of examples of corporations that are out there that have had long standing mentorship programs, deep conversations with the actual leadership of the company, which is where the change has to start. and it takes a generation before you, with xerox, i remember writing about stuff in the 80s. they had this great diversity program for mid level managers. years later, ursula burns, a product of that environment who grew up and the housing products and your city, become ceo of a fortune 500 company. it can't be done but it's not done overnight and it's not done in cutesy sessions that don't have a lot of times by >> part of this is there are so many attacks on what you are talking about. those initiatives that were born out of here is of research, borne out of the fact that racism is real in this country are being devalued as everybody is just being canceled when actually, these companies do need to deal with racism. >> certainly trying to avoid looking at you, you are a black woman, among hispanic women, how we talk about this without diving into a spectrum of what a white woman's experience in america, you are asking a room of hispanic and black women and they said that they felt they were being scolded. if that's what the diversity officer is doing she is

obviously got the formula wrong. the negative here and the tragedy here is that i think it's really important that we have honest open conversations about race. we are not going to be desensitized to other peoples experience in left we hear about them, it must be learned. i don't know what the black experience is unless i'm hearing it from my friends , i'm hearing from people i know. these conversations are absolutely essential. unfortunately, in places like

florida the ground zero for all insanity these days diversity equity and inclusion is one of the many things that ron desantis is banning in state colleges and universities. we must make sure that diversity equity and inclusion is done authentically, seriously, and that these conversations are being had. after you and i stop laughing about this which is going to take me about a day or two, i think we really have to focus on how we get these conversations going. >> to play devils advocate here isn't there an argument that what this diversity equity inclusion officers trying to do is have a hard conversation about how a lot of what people do feel we like they are we unfairly cold racist, but they are at risk of being put on the internet and shamed and fired. maybe that's what she was trying to do. >> maybe that's what she was trying to do but you have to have a foundation of respect first and you have to have other people be heard other than you. you can't have that conversation without first having a real relationship. you can't have a real

conversation with people that you don't know about, topics that are this hurtful. >> and maybe she should have asked the black and white and brown women in the room to come up with how we talk about this. because i think we have to talk about these things and they are important. but let's just remember what the caring person's. the karen persona is not about a white woman, it's about a priled racist white woman that is doing things that discrimite against people of color. >> and specifically what we are talking about when the cops are called on a black peright, in a situation where they are not doing anything iegal is that it potentially puts their we've seen that happen. i just want to read what one employee had to say. i think when people are called karen's it's implied that they have little empathy to others or is bothered by minorities, others that don't look like them. why can't bad behavior not be called out? this was said in a select channel at uber. i think that's probably a fair point. bob here is bad behavior, it ought to be able to be called out even in the context of tough conversations that need to be had. thank you all very much.

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what we are finding to cause this historic once in a decade shortage is that we have to see you manufacturers responsible for some desperately needed drugs. whether they are cancer drugs, whether they are antibiotics or children's tylenol. >> was it affected by the pandemic in the sense that we have been seeing supply chain issues across a lot of different kinds of industries? is that part of what is happening here? >> definitely it is. goes back to the root causes i was described. when you think about manufacturing, what has been happening with these low-cost, generic drugs. either they have moved overseas. or you only have one or two companies. and when that has happened, on labeling, we do not know exactly which ingredients are being produced where. it is a root breakdown. you think of bottlenecks. during the pandemic, we learned that our supply chain, not just for drugs but for many things was not as robust or as redundant as it needed to. b >> is enough being done to fix this?

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