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an arizona judge determined that, yes, katie hobbs won the 2022 election for governor. kari lake claims she won the election by 17,000 votes. the judge disagreeing, tossing out lake's final lawsuit. he said a lack of, quote, clear and convincing evidence. south carolina governor henry mcmaster's office said he was just joking when he said he looks forward to the days democrats are so rare he can hunting them with dogs. "the washington post" reports those comments sparking outrage within the state democratic party. several democrats say governor mcmaster's words were racially tinged and chilling. they called on law enforcement to open an investigation into those comments. thanks for your time today on "inside politics." we'll see you tomorrow. "cnn news central" starts right now.
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crash near the white house. a u-haul van smashes into a security barrier near the president's home. disturbing items inside the truck include a flag with a swastika on it. the 19-year-old driver charged with threatening to kill or harm the president, vice president or family member. surveillance video capturing harrowing moments and what came next as first responders trying to help a boy say they were met with gunfire forcing everyone to take cover. the latest on how all of this unfolded. and prince harry losing a legal battle over his personal security in the uk. just days after being pursued by paparazzi in manhattan with his wife, meghan markle. we are following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central."
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a 19-year-old man accused of intentionally ramming a truck into security barriers outside the white house is expected to appear in court this afternoon. cnn has learned new details about his arrest last night. authorities made a shocking discovery at the scene, a flag bearing what appears to be a swastika. they did not find any obvious weapons on him. a law enforcement source tells cnn the driver told officers he wanted to kidnap and harm president biden. he is now facing a series of serious charges, including threatening to kill, kidnap or inflict harm on a president, vice president or family member. cnn's brian todd is outside the courthouse in washington today. brian, tell us, how serious a threat to authorities believe this man and this truck was? >> reporter: well, jim, what the secret service is saying is that
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president biden was in no danger during any of this but we are getting more disturbing detail this afternoon, seemingly by the hour, about what the suspect had on him, what he said at the scene. it does present a fairly disturbing picture of his intentions at least. according to a law enforcement source who spoke to josh campbell, the suspect exited the vehicle after it had crashed into that security barrier at the white house with a nazi flag on him. the suspect when interviewed by law enforcement according to our source said that he did want to kidnap and harm president biden. authorities are now considering what role mental health may have played in this episode. the suspect is identified as a 19-year-old from chesterfield, missouri. he has been arrested for a myriad of charges and i'll name them for you. threatening to kill, kidnap or inflict harm on the president or vice president. assault with a dangerous weapon. reckless op reration of a motor
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vehicle, destruction of federal property and trespassing. this happened just about 200 yards away from the white house. the suspect rammed a u-haul truck into a security barrier, then pulled back and rammed it into it again. then he exited the vehicle with a nazi flag on him. when interviewed at the scene said he wanted to kidnap and/or harm president biden. the president was in no danger according to the secret service, but the secret service is not giving much detail at all about whether they tried to move president biden around or any security measures they might have taken to protect the president last night. we tell you the suspect is likely to make a court appearance this afternoon in the u.s. district court in washington. jim. >> at the time officers did not know what could have been inside that truck. it's clearly something they were taking very seriously. brian todd, thanks so much. let's go to our senior law
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enforcement officer, charles ramsey. chief ramsey, this is why you have the barriers around the white house. as the cordon expands, it goes wider and wider to give greater distance here. when you look at this based on what we know now, how serious a threat was this? >> well, you have to take all these threats seriously. i mean this obviously didn't succeed. my understanding is this individual flew into washington yesterday from st. louis, missouri, rented the u-haul truck, went to the white house and attempted to crash into the white house grounds. he wasn't successful. the security around the white house is very, very tight, very 64, and he wasn't able to penetrate the defenses there. but it's still very, very serious. obviously they had to take into consideration there could be weapons, could be a truck bomb. they evacuated kay adams hotel.
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you think about oklahoma city. a truck bomb can do an awful lot of damage. >> and oftentimes in cases like this it is rented vehicles that are used to do so, going all the way back to the '93 world trade center bombing here. it's early. we have only a very beginning sense of the circumstances here, but we have some indicators that says he wanted to harm president biden, had a nazi flag in there. we know when you look at broader threats in this country from extremist groups, the fbi has said specifically that white suprepupremacist groups are the greatest threat. describe why something like this would worry law enforcement. >> well, first of all, right-wing extremist groups are a threat to this country, no question about it. probably the biggest threat to this country right now. with this individual, they don't know whether or not he's connected to any of these groups at all. obviously finding a nazi flag
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would be an indication you want to go in that direction but right now they haven't been able to confirm anything. they did find a notebook some of kind in the truck with a lot of writings. it was described to me as ramblings, which probably will yield some clues as to what this person's intent was beyond just wanting to harm the president, which we already know. but in any event, you have to take these things very seriously. right now the park police is the lead agency working closely with secret service, fbi's joint terrorism task force, so they're all working on this and will get to the bottom of it. >> if you were involved in this investigation, what would be your most pressing question? >> well, the why, the motive. what was his real intent? obviously he didn't succeed. you know, i was the chief in d.c. for a while so we've been involved in quite a few cases where you have to really work with park police, secret service, fbi, the jurisdictional
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boundaries there can be a bit on the confusing side. but everybody comes together. but the main reason is, did he act alone? was this part of something larger? we're looking right now at that scene. but as far as the secret service and others are concerned, that could have been a diversion. they're not all going to be drawn to any one location. they're going to be on heightened alert around the entire complex to make sure this is a lone act and not part of something larger. >> that's a very, very good point. charles ramsey, thanks so much as always. we'll continue to follow closely. boris. far apart and nowhere near a deal. that's how house speaker kevin mccarthy and republican negotiators are describing debt ceiling talks with the white house today. a shift in tone after kevin mccarthy and president biden both described yesterday's meeting as productive. listen to one of his lead negotiators, congressman garrett graves. >> we're still far apart. until this administration is willing to recognize that they
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are having record spending, record deficits and record taxes, then we're not going to come together. we are demanding a different trajectory for this country. you're putting the next generation in jeopardy. >> cnn's manu raju is live for us on capitol hill. clearly a shift in messaging from republicans here. clearly some optimism and then nowhere near a deal. >> it's really uncertain whether they can get a deal passed before a potential default because they are far apart over spending levels. the republicans want significant spending cuts. the white house has offered a compromise to say that they will freeze current spending levels, attach that to an increase in the more than $31 trillion borrowing level. kevin mccarthy said we are not putting anything on the floor that doesn't spend less than we spent this year. he said he hasn't spoken to
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president biden yet but he could potentially speak with him again. he told reporters that the white house is trying to disrupt the negotiations by seeking new provisions, including giving medicare more authority to negotiate prescription drug prices, something mccarthy says is a no-go. at the same time he is facing some pressure from the right. a number of conservatives don't believe the treasury department's deadline of a potential default by june 1st and are arguing that there should be more time. >> i don't believe that the first of the month is the real deadline. i don't understand why we're not making janet yellen show her work. >> aren't you concerned that this could be a roll of the dice? >> i do not that to be the case. >> she'll extending it, but right now she's using june 1st. everybody knows that's false. >> the fact is we passed a bill that will raise the debt ceiling. the fact is we're going to have cash in june. the fact is we are not going to default on our debt.
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we've got the money to do it. everybody just needs to be patient. >> reporter: but that is the real challenge here, getting a deal and then selling it to the broader house gop conference as well as the senate gop conference. democrats, getting them on board and getting it through in a matter of days. huge questions as default looms over washington. >> and glaringly divergent views. some republicans not even believing that june 1st deadline that the treasury secretary put forward. manu raju, thank you so much. let's take you to the white house and get some perspective from arlette saens. where do things stand now? >> reporter: the white house has been very tight-lipped since that meeting president biden had with kevin mccarthy here at the white house yesterday. there was that readout that the president said the discussions were productive and the two sides would continue to meet.
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but all that we've really seen from the white house so far since that meeting is these negotiators heading up to capitol hill to meet with their republican counterparts. negotiators have been up there meeting for around two hours on the hill, as they're trying to work out some of these differences. the very vast differences that remain when it comes to trying to reach an agreement. as manu laid out, we know one of the items the white house has proposed is freezing spending levels at the current year's level, something that republicans have opposed. also the president has pushed for raising new revenue, including taxes on corporations and wealthy americans. that is also something that republicans have called a nonstarter. really at this moment one of the main challenges for both sides is trying to find some room for compromise. you heard yesterday in those oval office remarks the president said that they will need to come to an agreement that they can then sell to their members, democrats and republicans, and that is one of the issues arising in these negotiations.
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the president has stressed that republicans also need to be making some concessions. but right now this is all heading into a very urgent and critical time frame with that potential default looming as soon as nine days away. >> and the clock continues to tick. arlette saenz, thanks so much. let's talk more about this with damien polletta. we're getting close here. i wondering if there's enough pressure on these lawmakers to get something done in time. >> i think there's denial on capitol hill that the june 1st date is real. what they don't realize is on june 2nd, tens of billions of dollars of secret service benefits are scheduled to go out. tens of billions of dollars of military pay. also medicare provider payments are going out. so there's this huge point, june 2nd, june 3rd, we could have an impact both with the military and seniors. they can be in denial all they
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want. then when it happens there will be chaos in the country and we've never been in that situation before. >> that would be unprecedented. when we look back to 2008, the bank bailout. let's take people down with a walk through memory lane. you watched the bottom of the market drop out and that was the pressure that pushed the house to pass something. do they need something like that and will it come too late? >> that was an interesting vote because it happened during market hours so we watched the vote going down and the stock market tanked. i think they need something like that to happen again. they have no idea what would happen -- i mean the stock market fell like 700 points that day. we could be talking thousands of points because the whole financial system goes around
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u.s. treasury debt. all the mortgages, credit cards, everything flows through the treasury market. if that's not working, we don't know what will happen but it probably will not be good. that's the kind of scare that i think might happen as soon as the end of next week. >> this isn't binary, yes, we go off the cliff or, no, we don't, because even getting close has majo watching to see what happens. every tyke mccarthy or biden opens their mouth, they're going to react to that. if they don't think there's going to be a deal, they want to get out of the stock market before june 1st so as this week goes on and next week, this isn't just happening in the u.s., global markets are watching. the closer this get, the more things could go wrong. >> how concerned are you that we're going off the cliff? >> i've been through several of these. usually the negotiators wait until the last minute to cut a deal so they look like they're
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holding out for every last bit of concession. when you do that and play chicken like that, something terrible can happen. maybe yesterday was a 1% chance, today might be a 5% chance. the closer we get, the more things that can go wrong. they might run out of time. it's complicated to get bills through the house and senate on time. we're looking at the next 24 to 48 hours when they have to cut a deal. if not, things could get very scary. >> if they miss that window, what scary thing happens. >> the stock market could crash, massive unemployment. we could be in a scenario where benefits are not going out for millions of seniors. many of them who use it for rent, groceries, things like that. you get to a point where banks start failing. the food banks can't get food. we could be in a situation we never fathomed could occur in this country. >> damien, thank you so much. we appreciate it. jim. back in criminal court, sort
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the case and how he is not supposed to talk about it. kara scannell is outside the court. trump is not appearing in person, he's doing so virtually. why is that and what do we expect to take place in that room? >> reporter: yeah, the former president will appear virtually. part of the reason is they don't have the security issues the way they did. this is a moment for the judge to instruct the former president on the rules of engagement here. on this protective order that the judge entered earlier this month. his appearance here is at the request of prosecution because the prosecutor said that the former president has an extensive history of making inflammatory statements on social media. that's a lot of what this protective order focuses on. under the order, there are restrictions. trump is allowed to defend himself. the judge said this is not a gag order. he can talk about anything that's kind of publicly known
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about the case already. but this protective order says that trump can't reveal any material that they receive from the prosecution that could include grand jury minutes, witness testimony, anything that the prosecution turns over, trump cannot use and post on social media. there's also restrictions about what kind of evidence trump can see. there will be forensic copies of cell phones, some witnesses like michael cohen that are turned over to trump's lawyers. trump can view that but only in the presence of his attorney and he can't tribe aanscribe anybod copy anything. this is protect the integrity of the investigation. we hope we will learn the trial date, of course sometime early next year. >> what would the penalties be if the president were to violate those judge's instructions and reveal some of this information on social media or otherwise? >> reporter: well, that's something that we also expect the judge will tell him today,
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what the potential consequences are. and that can be whatever the judge decides, anything from financial penalties or ultimately imprisonment if he thinks it is an egregious violation. this is the type of information that the judge discusses today. let's talk about the other case he is facing where he was found liable for defaming e. jean carroll. she is seeking further damages because of things he said after that case was decided. what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, jim. so you remember the jury had returned that verdict finding that trump had sexually abused e. jean carroll and he defame had her when he said that she made up the story as a hoax, that he didn't know her and she wasn't his type. now carroll is pointing to statements trump made again on the social media and also again at the cnn town hall. >> mr. president, can i ask
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you -- >> i swear on my children, which i never do. i have no idea who this woman -- this is a fake story. made up story. i have no idea who the hell -- she's a whack job. >> reporter: and so now e. jean carroll's lawyers are asking the judge for an earlier lawsuit to allow them to use those comments from the town hall as something that a jury could use when they're considering any punitive damages because that's a form of punishment. jim. >> it's telling because it's quite possible he knew that he shouldn't have commented in those circumstances as well, so we'll see if he obeys these instructions here. thanks so much. brianna. coming up, as the battle for bakhmut rages, we take you there. our cnn team on the ground has an inside look at the critical battlefield. plus, shocking new video. a 4-year-old boy dropped over a border fence in san diego, while
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been no new incursions since yesterday and counterterror operations are over. two groups aligned with the ukrainian military claimed responsibility for the attacks yesterday. it sits just across the russian side of the border and ukraine is saying it has nothing to do with these attacks. in the meantime in bakhmut right now, ukraine's national security advisor is telling cnn that his forces still control part of the city and is refuting claims made by russian mercenaries who say they have captured the city after months of brutal and bloody fighting. nic, you were just on the front lines near bakhmut. tell us the very latest. >> reporter: yeah, ukrainians say they still have a presence in bakhmut. at best it's a toehold on the edge of the city. they are trying to push an offensive that's had some success over the past couple of weeks around bakhmut itself, although that is getting into a difficult time with heavy
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russian artillery. but when we went close to the front lines there, i think what we saw was the net effect of a year of war and in particular the effect of the grinding, grinding battle over so many months for bakhmut itself. barely out of the armored troop carrier, incoming artillery. >> we're just going to wait in this little basement until the shelling is over. then think it will be safe to move forward to the front positions. >> reporter: a few minutes later, safe to come out of this army outpost a few miles from bakhmut. last night was hard. a lot of shelling. call sign gambit says the
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soldier is still shell shocked from an attack. >> we're going to try to get back in the vehicle and get a little closer to the front lines. >> reporter: ten days ago these troops pushed the russians back around bakhmut, but their advance is slowing and harder. we get to a small hq, call sign fox, a former farmer is readying his troops for their coming shift on the front line, stopping the russians in bakhmut from advancing. >> how hard is that? >> very, very hard. >> reporter: it's impossible to describe these feelings, he says. you can only experience it. no words can express it. they shell a lot. as we talk, it is clear this war is taking its toll. >> you only have to look at the soldiers' faces here to know how tough this battle is. they all look worn. they say morale is high, but
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their faces are telling a different story. >> reporter: we move on towards other positions and stop as the shelling increases. >> we've just been told the place that we are going to is under heavy shelling so we're going to pull back from here and go somewhere else. >> reporter: in the battalion bunker, the commander tells us the russians of ramped up their shelling on his troops since they advanced. tons of ammo, shrapnel, tanks firing, everything. his unit's drones recorded their recent successes, but now the russians have regrouped and in a moment of candor following losses the previous night admits morale is flagging. let's be honest, he says. we are fighting heavily for more than a year. my soldiers went through many battles and two rotations near bakhmut.
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troops are exhausted. but we endure. bakhmut, which is just over the hill in that direction has been an object lesson in how russia's wealth and men and ammunition can prevail. unless ukraine gets the modern weaponry support from its allies, it's going to struggle to tip the balance. call sign fox and his unit load up for their hard miles at the front. an end of war getting back to their families, is what drives them to the shelling. i think when you see those troops go off like that, they know they're in for a hard time, we know they're in for a hard time, but the reality is, as they have been telling us, unless they make this effort and unless they make the sacrifice, they just cannot defeat the russians. for the commanders who are trying to figure out when and where to have this big
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counteroffensive operation, it's going to depend on men like the former farmer, call sign fox, to do their bit. because unless they do their bit there, it doesn't open up the front somewhere else for other troops. it is just a very costly war and a very tough one for these soldiers to go through. >> nic, thank you for showing us an inside look there. you don't see that every day and we appreciate it. nic robertson. focusing on a major story here in the united states, u.s. customs and board eprotection sending out this video with a strict warning for migrants. cross illegally and you will be deported. the rio grande say they have deported 90% of those who have entered illegally in the last few days, men, women and children. notably it comes as border patrol released this shocking video. take a look in your screen at that spot that we circled. that's a 4-year-old child being
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dropped over the border wall in san diego. let's go live to rosa flores. first and foremost, is the child okay? what have officials said about the incident surround ing this surveillance video? >> reporter: according to the border patrol chief, the child is okay. we don't have a lot of details about the condition of the child or the location of the child, where that child is. but here's what's so interesting about this video. the video doesn't tell you the full story because it's only surveillance video, it doesn't have audio. what happens thereafter is border patrol agents responded and so did the san diego fire department. those first responders came under fire from the mexican side. so u.s. customs and border patrol had to provide a helicopter to provide cover while they were giving aid to this child. they're trying to figure out
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what exactly happened and if these were indeed smugglers. in the backdrop of all of this is in a post title 42 world where the number of migrant encounters continues to drop, the latest numbers according to the border patrol chief stand just under 3,000 migrants per day. now, that is a 70% drop from the days leading up to the end of title 42 when the encounters were at about 10,000. now, boris, one thing that does not change and that is the recommendation from cbp regarding the use of smugglers. they always tell migrants not to put their lives or the lives of their children in the hands of smugglers. boris. >> yeah, simply put, the administration telling these migrants smugglers lie, do not trust them. rosa flores, thank you so much for the reporting. >> they charge a lot of money too. coming up, the u.s. territory of guam is bracing f a super typhoon. it will be the strongest storm
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government-provided security when he stepped down as a working royal in 2020. this court setback coming just one week after prince harry and his wife, meghan markle, were involved in a chaotic car chase with paparazzi in new york city. a pursuit that a spokesperson for the couple described as a near catastrophic chase that endangered their lives and others. ana stewart is joining us now from london. i think this really boils down to the question, ana, will harry and his family be safe when they were visiting the uk? >> reporter: well, prince harry is very concerned that they won't be safe, that they are a target, and has long wanted to keep the uk police protection that they enjoyed when they were working members of the royal family. for now, he will have to continue to rely on private security when he's in the uk unless he falls into some big official royal event like the queen's funeral in which case they are part of a broader security arrangement. ever sense prince harry decided
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they were taking a step back they looked at all of the options on the table and security was one of the biggest concerns they had. prince harry recently wrote all about it, and he had this to say. he recalled it by saying i didn't bloody care which option we adopted so long as security remained in place. i pleaded for the same security i've had and needed since birth. he offered to pay out of his own pocket. he wasn't sure how he would do it but said he would find a way. that was not allowed. they are not allowed to pay for it. the home office made it very clear wealthy individuals cannot hire uk police protection. there is another challenge, a challenge for the legalness of actually taking away the taxpayer-funded protection as well so we wait to see what comes of that. brianna. >> it is an unusual situation and certainly there are security concerns. thank you very much for the report. jim. well, preparations are now under way in guam as a massive
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super typhoon bears down on the pacific island which is also a u.s. territory. president biden issued an emergency declaration today for guam as the storm rapidly intensifies. it is expected to have wind gusts up to 190 miles per hour. cnn meteorologist chad myers is tracking the storm. chad, where is it and how bad's it going to be? >> well, it's 155 miles per hour right now, 190. it's just to the southeast now of guam and it's, like you said, will be the strongest storm in decades. right now what i'm seeing on the satellite picture is an eye wall replacement cycle. we don't see that bright white eye or yellow eye as we did a few hours ago. that's good news. that means that the storm may be losing one of its eye walls. another one develops on the outside that's not quite as strong. the problem is we still have ten or so hours in the water and it could regain that strength and maybe even be stronger, but 155 is the forecast. that is super typhoon.
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those are the philippines, so far missing to the north. there's going to be a lot of rainfall as well. some of the mountains here in guam, about 1,000, 1,200 feet when, that rain gets on top of those mountains, that could cause flash flooding for sure. here are the winds, 115 sustained, probably 190 with a gust likely in some of these areas, and that will be devastating with storm surge to 25 feet. waves in the ocean right now are 45 feet tall, jim. >> that's enormous to picture. all right, something a little closer to home because we've been watching wildfires in canada. smoke has been drafting down here to the u.s. as well. what's the latest there? how big, and any sign of relief in sight? >> you know, the relief is going to come because there is some moisture coming into parts of canada right now. it doesn't really rain enough to put the fires out, but anything
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that can dampen that rainfall, dampen that ground just a little bit, that could help. but it's the flow of the jetstream coming down from the north and down to the south, that's the problem we are seeing all across alberta, manitoba, saskatchewan and into the northern great lakes and northern plains. not much relief in sight. >> the force, the heat, the speed of these things is remarkable to watch. chad myers, thanks so much. boris, over to you. up next, tiktok hits back. the social media platform now suing montana over its outright ban of the chinese-owned app. plus millions in mexico are told to prepare for a possible evacuation after its most dangerous active volcano gives off warning signs of a major er eru eruption. stay with "cnn news central." we're back in moments. ly take tp for less than all this. i madede a horrible mistake. ♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪ ♪
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this is "cnn news central." here's a look at some of the other headlines we're following this hour. a german investigation team has arrived at the search site related to the disappearance of british toddler madeleine mccann. it is roughly 31 miles away from where she was last seen some 16 years ago. detectives removed some dirt to be analyzed. remember in april of last year officials named a german man as a suspect in the case. he once lived in the region
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where mccann went missing. also, 3 million people in mexico have been warned to prepare for evacuation as the country's most dangerous volcano could be ready to blow. the volcano is known as el pojo. this video shows the massive amount of ash that's also been to fall in puebla city. the mayor is warning residents and tourists alike to stay alert. this is what $34 million looks like in dubai. that was the final selling price for an empty plot on jumara bay island which is completely man made and connected to the mainland via a 1,000-footbridge. the seller making a 242% gain over its original purchase price. the identity of the buyer is still unknown. jim. >> i am not that buyer. just days after the governor of montana signed a bill banning
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the use of tiktok, they are striking back. tiktok has filed a federal lawsuit alleging that the move violates the u.s. constitution, including the first amendment. starting in 2024 montana will impose a fine of $10,000 per day on app stores, not individuals, that make the app available to personal devices within state boundaries. vanessa joins us now. listen, there's a lot at stake for users but also tiktok itself and enforcement questions on how you would enforce this. tell us the latest. >> clearly a lot at stake for tiktok. they are filing this lawsuit against the state of montana for this ban that will take effect in january. and in this lawsuit, tiktok is alleging that this ban would violate the first amendment, the u.s. constitution, and a host of other federal laws. it also goes on to talk about claims that the state has made over the fact that they believe
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that china has access to u.s. user data. the lawsuit saying that these claims are simply unfounded. now tiktok's ceo just spoke about this a short time ago at the qatar economic forum. listen to what he had to say about this lawsuit. >> we believe that the montana bill that was recently passed is simply unconstitutional. as you pointed out, we very recently filed a lawsuit that challenged this in the courts. we are confident that we will prevail. >> reporter: he also spoke about his support for another lawsuit that was filed against the state of montana by tiktok creators in the state. they also allege that this ban violates their first amendment. there are five million small businesses on tiktok who make money off the platform. some of those are likely in the state of montana, jim. but this is going to be a long
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battle. tiktok does not want to lose this fight because if this happens in montana, this ban happens in montana, it could happen in other states and that would impact tiktok's 150 million users. >> you wondering at some point about a national case. vanessa, thanks so much. just ahead, a 19-year-old accused of ramming a rental truck into security barriers outside the white house expected in court this afternoon. we have that coming up. the coach. the manager. and the snack dad. all l using chase to keep up with their finances. the coach helps saveve goals here, because she saved for soccer camp there. anddd check this o out... the manager deposited a check. magic. and the snack dad? he's getting paid back. orange slicesss. because this team all has chase. smart bankers. convenient tools. one bank with the power of both. chase. make more of what's yours.
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