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first, the mar-a-lago classified document investigation. our reporting is that special counsel, jack smith, is going to be home stretch on that. then there's the hush money payments to stormy daniels. that case is set to begin in march of next year, right in the middle of primary season. then there's the georgia investigation into efforts by then president trump to overturn the 2020 election. but even with all of this, the deck is stacked in donald trump's favor for the gop primary. john avlon is here to explain. governor ron desantis plans to seize the gop spotlight tomorrow with a big announcement, it involves elon musk. kara swisher is gonna join our panel to share her thoughts. when is enough fame and money and success enough. lebron james playing the will he or won't he retire game. >> we'll see what happens going forward. i don't know. i don't know.

i've a lot to think about, to be honest. a lot to be thinking about, to be honest. just for me, personally, going forward with the blame game of basketball, a lot to think about. >> we will get into all of that, let's begin with donald trump in court today. he appeared via video conference. with his lawyer, and an american flag backdrop. this is the case about the stormy daniels hush payment. as we've seen, run donald trump routinely expresses his displeasure about a investigation into his activities, today, the judge told him to knock it off. my panel is raring to go. we have with this mystery of himself, john avlon. -- rachel nichols of headliners, with rachel nichols on showtime. -- from the new york times. great to have all of you. so, when i say the judge asked him to knock it off, he basically installed his protective, order. here are the rules. because, as you know, donald trump in the past has railed on

his own social media about alvin bragg, the dea, about things being witchhunts, it's andrea. so, the judge has said that trump defense team cannot share case evidence, trump can only view some evidence in the presence of his attorneys. he cannot copy, photographed, transcribe or otherwise independently possess any of of this evidence. that interesting. i don't think we've heard things like this before. >> absolutely, i think it's interesting. i think it speaks to a judge to try to clamp down donald trump. we saw immediately after the arraignment last time, he went to mar-a-lago. he immediately started railing about the judge. this is someone who, in every single instance, both politically and really legally, has used his megaphone to show his grievances, one after another. with no sense of restraint. i think this is the legal process trying to put restraints on a figure, who's not really had them, largely. that's gonna be unique thing about this going forward. in politics, he's been able to use his bluster as a defense of

himself. but in this process, specifically, this is going to be someone who is humbled by the realities of these legal challenges. i think this protective order is the first step. >> do you think donald trump is? >> he will be personally humbled, i think it's a process that forces a humbling. >> listen, remember when he was left to go back to mar-a-lago after last arraignment, that was not donald trump lustful bluster. that was donald trump looking shocked at the reality of this. it is not that it's going to force a new person to come on. but it forces him to have other considerations that, in a political sense, he would not have. >> rachel, thoughts? >> i'm not sure it really metals, donald trump has really been one to let the facts get in the way of good story. so, if the judge limits the fact that he has access to, or electricity or not to talk about, i don't see latest just make up new ones. it's what he's done the entire time that he's been a candidate, when he was president. and certainly, when he has an adversary like he does with all of the legal opponents of these cases.

name-calling, evidence creating, i don't see why limiting what he can and can't talk about is really gonna change his m.o. at all. >> john, another interesting thing today, we have a court date. march of 2024, for the hush money payment to stormy daniels. so, obviously, i know they are about to give us the reality check, but this was this bound to happen? with so many investigations piling up, one of them was going to fall during an inconvenient political time, yes? >> i, mean it's all an in committee political time. this is gonna be right as the primaries are setting, up you haven't setting up for a split screen here. where people are gonna be voting, and also, seeing a hush money payment drop going forward. it's not the only legal jeopardy he's in, of course. this could all come colliding, and that will be up for the primary voters to decide. >> on your bike. you're gonna go over and give us a reality check in one moment, lee, of a question for you. do we know the american public is feeling about all of these things coming to a head, investigation?

>> well, i think it's the tale of three cities, really. republicans who feel one way, independent another, democrats totally different way. 93% of republicans right now, believe the inquiries into donald trump, or whatever you want to call them, are politically motivated. 70% of independents think they're politically motivated. 66% of democrats believe they're actually legal in this is right. so, what ends up happening here, trump knows his base. what you're gonna do? he's gonna play of this narrative of how unfair things are. how much the mainstream media hates republicans and is coming after us, all of that. and it works for him. so, i think it's gonna be the story that we're hearing on replay, over and over again. the question is, can he keep it up? is there gonna be a point in which people say, enough is enough. we can't forgive some of these things. i'm not sure. conventional rules and conventional wisdom certainly don't apply to donald trump. so, it's hard to predict. he knows his base. >> and there's something else

that appears to be working for him. that's the primary process, john avlon has a reality check tonight. john? >> that's right, everybody -- it's not, time the republican presidential field is getting more crowded. south carolina senator, tim scott, entering the race on monday. florida governor, ron desantis, expected to announce tomorrow. handful of other hopefuls, waiting in the wings. now, the presence of a half dozen serious challengers, to president trump, reflects a gop that just might be finding its spine. and willing to roll over for a man to try to overturn an election on the basis of a lie. but these candidates might be heading into admiral ackbar land. >> it's a trap. >> yes, it's a trap. courtesy of trump's appointees in the state parties in rnc, here's why. get this, the number of winner take all gop primary states increased from 7 to 17. that's between the 2016 in the 2020 election. according to an analysis by

gregory -- over bloomberg. this is a big deal. winner take all states allow polarizing candidates to get ahead, even if they don't win a majority of votes. here's how it works. let's say, hypothetically, trump winds 35% of the primary votes of south carolina. with homesteaders tim scott and nikki haley coming in at 32 and 30%, respectively. other candidates splitting the difference. a super majority of those primary voters would have voted for someone other than trump to be their party's nominee. but trump would take home all the delegates. in contrast, proportional gravitation means delegates will be allocated according to percent of a vote, they actually won. when article was actually key, it's how trump got the nomination back in 2016, rolling into the cleveland convention, adding one just 45% of primary votes, but boasting 63% of the delegates. so, unless things change, trump could have an even greater edge in the 2024 primaries. that's despite a poll showing that 44% of republicans wanted

him to run again. the good news, there still time for gop candidates to push states to shift from winner take all to proportional. before october 1st deadline. could be the right thing to do. love the playing field, more regularly, reflective ill of the voters. remember, you change the rules, you change the game. that syria-year-old check. >> john, thanks very much. come on back over four more panel discussion. so, how about that. 7 to 17, the winner take all states. as john just told us, these are the ones that enhanced the x most extreme candidates. >> it's a really important point. this type of procedural process is one of the things that trump's got a lot better at. from 2016 to 2020. one of the ways with a shift in the party is to bring in those trump loyalists to state parties, bring those loyalist to delegates. what out of the rnc winter, meeting that was the first meeting this year where those folks came together. they were pretty clear eyed

that shift was gonna be important for him. they were also clear eyed as the more -- they gets more important. it splits the rest of the votes among a larger group of people. and it allows that 30 to 35% that sticking with donald trump to become even more important. he has definitely a lower ceiling, maybe, then he had even previously in the past. but he also has a higher floor than those other candidates, and that's what he's hoping is gonna really propel him in the primaries. particularly, when the procedural process even more in his favor, maybe. no even then it was 2016. >>,,. a path in that case, you know the deck is stacked in that way. for tim scott. foreign desantis. >> look, the more candidates that do get into the race, the more trump is ahead, because he has that name recognition, when there's a sea of faces, people gravitate toward the face they know. it's just one or two or three people, it actually be giving each of them a shot. as we see, the more people get in, you just showed a panel of what eight, ten faces?

people are gonna go for the one i know. it's the same thing with all of these legal cases, you introduce the stormy daniels situation, you said, this is the one with the hush money. it's amazing, you have to make that distinction about a former president and presidential candidate. the truth is, there's so many, instead of adding up to telling a lot of voters, okay, this is now ridiculous, instead, it just becomes this sea that sorted around each other out. >> absolutely, speaking of which, the classified documents case, which is different, we have indications and reporting that the special counsel, who's been looking into this invest investigating this, jack smith, is wrapping up. one of the reasons that we believe this, because trump's own attorney, -- suggested that he saw signs of this. listen to that. >> at this point, they have turned over every stone, interviewed any witness, now, they just have to read up the report to merrick garland to say, this is all of the stuff we've done. >> okay, there may be more

things happening in primary season. >> there may be even more things. they call him teflon don for a reason, what's gonna stick? i don't know. here's the bottom line, i think we all know this, trump has a very solid base. it's 30%, they're not going anywhere, they say they're gonna support him. no matter what. they're going to view it the way they view, it republicans are gonna have to get some discipline here. there are too many people in the field, and, someone really needs to find a lane. right, now desantis is on trump without the chaos, except there's a lot of chaos. they're all trying to come up with some kind of thing that's a good alternative, except no one to anything except for donald trump. >> as you know as well as anybody, it's early. the field will thin. it will thin because candidates wobble raises much money. they won't show up in polls. that the fold number of folks will be there much voter start counting. right now, i think more people the better, start making a case for yourself, rather than

tiptoeing around the problem. but you're right, this case, in particular, the one with the documents, that's the one that bill barr thinks could be the most serious. in the justice system is not gonna care about polling, or at least it shouldn't. >> they increased about of candidates is, to me, around desantis question over the last 3 to 4 months. there was coordination from the donor level of the republican party. to centralize their energy around desantis after the midterms. it's been the last 2 to 3 months that have created new openings that you see a chris christie get in the race. or think about getting in the race. you see it glenn youngkin reconsidering the previous decision to stay out of the race. increasingly, those non desantis trump alternatives are seeing a candidate that they think it's a little more beatable than they may have appeared in november. so, i think actually when we look at the increasing amount of candidates, it's not necessarily a donald trump problem. someone who wants that. it really, to me, around desantis problem. someone who is the leader of that pack, but will be the target not only of trump, but of the rest of the folks in that field. >>,,.

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an unusual way. he plans to do it with twitter owner, elon musk. why? let's ask our panel. joining us is kara's wish, or host of the honor of cares which are podcast, as well as the pivot podcast. kara, great to have you here. what does this by ron desantis to do this with elon musk in this way? >> doesn't avatar you. doesn't have to talk to the regular media. he's incredibly thin skinned. doesn't like to interact with media. i think he's just scared of it. as anything. i think this gives him an opportunity to play a stunt with the most famous person on the planet. at this moment in time. >> why not just the standard whistle stopped, like well as his supporters, we see we're just talking about his vision, missed only asking questions. just has this big announcement, why not that traditional diner or something like that. why on twitter? >> maybe doesn't like people, i don't know. we're all talking about it. elon musk, of course, is an attention sponge. he needs attention. it caused attention to twitter,

and acts like it a media site. because he's obviously a well-known journalist, an experienced journalist. he's not gonna get tough questions in, could be interesting. the downfalls are, when you do any stunt, something could go wrong. elon has an unusual mind, and carrasco a really unusual question that could be problematic. the technology could go down, that's for sure. >> hold on a second, it's called twitter spaces, that was one of the lot. >> what's wrong in the technology, though -- >> it glitches out all the time. it's being on a party line, of some sort. if there's not enough, if they don't have, it probably spent a lot of time making sure this one works. but it could glitch out. if they're not careful, people could say anything on if they allow people to talk. that's another way it could happen. that happened many times. so, there's a lot of things that can go wrong. mostly, it's elon musk. you never know it is gonna do. so, that's what it is. it's good for him, good for an desantis, it protects him from talking to journalists. keeps up that i hate the media

thing. just a little thing. >> okay, this is gonna be interesting. >> i mean, i don't know if it's the right place though. look, in some ways it's a great fit. twitter has devolved into the land of heart opinions with no nuance. that's right desantis in a nutshell, great. however, the idea that he's on a platform that, frankly, only one of five americans use. and a chunk of people who do use it have now started to find it very distasteful, since elon musk took over, you are telling people, at best, i'm making the most major announcement of my campaign in a place that most of you don't care about, and it worse, some of people don't really like. i don't know why he would want to be associated with that. when there's other options. >> a lot expressed interest in him, earlier, he had said he might back desantis. it's not bad to have all those donors, also david sachs has become an increasing player, who's one of the loans whatever advisers. as part of, it -- called it influencer investors,

essentially. that's what they are on these campaigns. that's what they're trying to do the same time. >> i, mean what interest me, on the one hand, the optics presumably are, look, at the tortoise passing to a new generation of conservatives. who don't fit any of the old molds, really focused on trolling and have similar enemies. what's really surprising, compared any other presidential announcement, the first one i can recall where the candidate needs someone else for a halo effect. that's fascinating. that's. different that maybe reflects a certainly deficiency around desantis's part. >> look, twitter isn't new to somebody running for office, we saw donald trump do this before, i think desantis has promised to be donald trump light, maybe try to do something different and entering here. the thing about ron desantis in this moment, he's coming from a real position of weakness. he's lost 20% in the polls in the last two months. he has complete reset in front of him, he has made some major

mistakes, i think is warren mickey mouse is a complete mistake. his woke wars have taken a sidelined him. can you connect us to his falling poll numbers? >> absolutely. why would you ever say, when you're trying to appeal the families, suburban women, why would you ever say we're gonna put a prison next to disney world? it's preposterous. the whole thing was a huge mistake. he should never have done it. what he needs to do is talk about the economy, shall we talk about the florida blueprint, and what is gonna try and do, i'm gonna go back to elon musk, let's be entrepreneurial, it's talking about business friendly i am, let's talk about getting the economy going again. and i'm not sure it's not a smart move. he needs a complete reset. he's behind in the 5:38 polling by 33 points right now behind on ultra. something's gotta, give -- >> what about the industry represent real people, real americans. real america's been on even know that stuff. >> but, we're a soundbite, cultural can be watching it anyway. >> the other gonna say, oh, it

appeals to youth oriented generations, trying to run on. that it doesn't. people are not on twitter. >> on top of a contrast, generational contrast with trump. but point well taken, -- >> simultaneous with. whether >> it's gonna get a lot of pickup. >> get pulled pick up with political or order gonna, the pollsters, everybody else. not young people. honestly, they're just not on here. if we want to activists -- you have to insult china and whole other issue. that's where young people are, or elsewhere, read it. >> it turns a platform, absolutely. >> it's a stunt. we'll see if it does, they do a reset, they say i'm with the guy who detest la in spacex. he's also the twitter guy. if you like the testa guy, spacex guy, a lot of people don't like the twitter guy. crews are gonna show up as. that's the problem. >> bill maher had an interview with elon musk, he was talking about, elon musk said, my politics haven't changed,

suddenly i more right, i used to be on the left. i'm a guy that brought elise. >> moan. >> he had a famous quote where he said, you have to be neutral, i want to anger the left and the right. we are waiting for him to anger the, right he hasn't done that a while. >> i'm super excited for his long involved interview with joe biden. >> really interesting. thank you all very much for that. the surgeon general has a warning for parents, social media can be hazardous for your kids health. we're gonna discuss the answers, next. >> but it also shows, when kids are spending more than three hours on average, they faced nearly double the risk, increased risk, of depression and anxiety symptoms.

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a stark warning today from the surgeon general about the impact of social media on the mental health of kids. dr. vivek -- releasing a 25-page advisory warning, that social media presents, quote, a profound risk of harm. here's what he told erin burnett tonight. >> there is not enough evidence

to say that social media is, in fact, sufficiently safe for a kids. we also found that there's a growing body of evidence showing that social media uses associated with harms. it is urgent that we take action to protect our kids and to make sure that their experience on social media is safe. we've done that for other products that kids use. for medications. four cars. and we haven't asked parents to go inspect the car themself, and make sure it's safe. we've set safety standards. and we required manufacturers to implement and abide by those standards. >> he also said that social media use among children's, quote, nearly universal. 95% of 13 to 17-year-olds use it. as to 40% of children aged 8 to 12. i'm back with my panel. okay, rachel, you have twin 12 year olds. >> i do. >> they have social self, and today's social media? >> they don't have cell phones yet. all of this is terrifying. if you're on the verge of having teenagers, you look at these numbers, you look at the surgeon general's report, the

age for social media supposed to be 13. and you just said that 40% of 8 to 12-year-olds use it. and this creates a double edged sword for parents. because if you try to keep your kids of social media, just to the required age, they're in middle school and have a bunch of their peers using it. and then all of a sudden, the feelings of loneliness, depression, isolation that you are trying to stave off by keeping them off social media, they may end up having because they're being left out of what is going on. the only thing that's gonna solve this, is to raise the age for everybody, and for trying to find a way for the people running the sites to hold people to it. this is your area of expertise. look, you mentioned cars. when you get a drivers license, you have to show your i.d.. and there is no way to get around that. >> or if, to show you brush into forget. there's no way around the. right now, hey, fellow to form. villain email. but of fake birthday. is there a way to have more stringent policies, so it's not just the parents luttig to. >> the policies we were talking

with us for 20 years, i'm so thrilled they're mentioning some things evident once known for every. i'm sorry, okay. you're getting. cigarettes cause cancer, wow. that's what i didn't come out on these people. look, i like him. i think a smart the surgeon general be talking about this, they've been trying to do something about this for two decades now. it's dead clear, the problems with self of stephen oh young one women, a rounded addiction, around a dull addiction. we all need to use, it it's an addictive quality. it's important for work, you can't avoid it. so, of course our kids would do it to, they're watching us do it. so, this is something that's not fresh and new, it's something that congress, once again, is completely abrogated all responsibility for, and done nothing. >> that's so frustrating, there are a lot of bipartisan bills that could be addressed. that's the frustration with this report. i spoke to -- one of the leading nyu researcher. he praised the surgeon general for collecting the data. but he was really frustrated

that he didn't take the next step and advocate specific solutions. you, know enforce the age limit, raise the age limit. there are bills, the senators -- have a bill. senator blackburn and blumenthal of a bill. this has bipartisan support. they should be something we could get done. parents are also trying to act on their own, my son's school, third grade parents are saying, they're gonna all sign a pledge saying, no social media until eighth grade. >> way too late. >> that's because the government, even though this bipartisan support, can't seem to get its act together. so now is the time to act. >> for parents, it's like figure out, pollution parents. this is a government that has to happen. you can't figure out this, by the way, you're addicted to. that's the problem. every single person in society, especially since the pandemic, these are necessary things, you can't stop putting it down, it's designed a crawled on your brain stem, and that's how they design it. why have we never questioned them? why have we never find them? we did with cigarette warnings, i mean, to hear this again and

again and have nothing being done, and then blaming the parents for it. i think parents do have a part of it, but my ex-wife is the cto of america. i'm a very well-known tech person. we have a hard time. how can anyone figure it out and they themselves have a problem? >> how can parents stay ahead of a teenager using, it does change every two years. whatever the newest app is. there are parents i know who have said, oh i told, the staff instagram. i told the staff snapchat. oh, dear. should not be on that, my friend. look, one of the things is, when you talk to the kids about, it more than half of them say it's really important for self expression. really important for social connectivity. and more than half of parents say, i know it's having a negative impact on my children. i think the messaging here is gonna be really important, we're gonna stop about banning, talk about boycotts, talk about over regulating. a lot of resistance. i like what he said there, he said we have to put in safety standards. i think that something we can all get behind. let's do something about it.

and i'm tired, frankly, of all of us saying we can't compromise, we can get things done. this is our children. we have got to do better. >> it's so interesting, when my kids see someone -- smoking on the street, they think it's a felony. they're so shocked. >> and part of it is psas, part of it are bands. we did it with smoking, it took a long time. but we did it with smoking, where we change the attitudes, the public attitude about smoking. so, is there a way? >> people, most parents have understands throughout the career. go through depression, everything else. i think it's because we have refused to regulate any technology. in the 25 years it's been an important part of our life, how many -- in the past? zero. and the law that's their protects them with immunity. i support section 2:30, but there's been no other, laws no privacy bill, no algorithm of transparency, bill no requirement to say what impact this is having. there's none of it. because they have lobbyists coming in and out of congress.

>> what so infuriating, and the reason why parents are trying to figure how to do it themselves, there is bipartisan support. for everything that he just said, -- >> they need to do. it they need to do, there is bipartisan support, as the power of lobbyists. the president support, republicans and democrats support in the senate, get it done. the data is clear. this isn't a jump ball anymore. >> parents can do this by themselves. ,,. i know the lobbyist must be on the half of the tech companies, but to your point about pushback, i, mean the people that are gonna be regulated or 13, 14 and 15 16 years old. as far as i'm concerned, this is something -- >> we've got a stop that compromises a dirty word. we can do something together. this is something we should all agree on. >> a. i, u.n.c. nothing yet. it's very involved, they're gonna start having relationships with these computers to. and so you. and the question is, what are they gonna do about generative

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james comes out of the pack, james on the drive, goes inside, stop chuck lock at the back, it's over. it's over. [applause] >> couldn't be over for lebron james? following the exit last night the james the nba's all-time leading scorer added to the speculation that he could be hanging up his sneakers. >> i don't know. i don't know. i have a lot to think about, to

be honest. i've got a lot to be think about, to be honest. just for me personally going forward with the game of basketball, i have a lot to think about. >> all right, so after 20 record shattering seasons in the nba is his reign over? the lakers organization says he has earned the right to decide. okay rachel, you spoke to him a couple of days ago, what did you tell? you >> yes, look, i have been with lebron james since he came out of high school. i covered his first nba game. and every year since then and including this past week the series, and with the nuggets, this was a cooling. when this last game he was talking about, he played all but five seconds of again. the man is tired. he's 38 years old. he's chasing around after twentysomethings. this easily played several appoint a opponents who were sons of his previous opponent opponents. this is how long he's been doing this. it has been a sprint. what you saw out there was a guy who had had enough. has he had a lot of long term? i'm going to give you 99%

chance that lebron james is back on that court next season. maybe not the very start of the season, depending on his injury situation but i just can't imagine he's going to walk away from the game, first of all on first of all on the heels of a sweep. in addition he's got a son. it's not just his opponents season. his own son will be eligible for the nba draft after that. he's about 14 months away from being able to play with his son, so that he has told me to last six or seven years that he has wanted to do. this is not just a johnny-come-lately kind of thing. >> so why is he so on the fence? why doesn't he say, yeah, after 14 months? >> because he's tired! [laughter] >> wept by the denver nuggets, and boom. you'd be demoralized as well. i think what rachel said is important. i can play with my. sun but the idea of lebron james playing a final season with his son, i mean, any dad,

i'm not crying, you are crying. [laughter] >> it's not just emotional, as well. will be very lucrative. he's got a contract next season that would pay him $47 million, and the following season, the season he will possibly play with his son, $50 million. that man is walking away from $97 million. i know he's lebron james, he's got a lot of money, but he wants to buy a professional sports team. that kind of change can happen. >> it's the sun that? good >> his son is a highly recruited college player, and as expected to be more of a role player in the league. he 17, 18 years old, we'll see what he changed into. he has good jeans. >> as a fan, lebron is coming off an incredible season, as a bull fan he terrorized us for years and years. i would love to see him. it's an interesting moment in the nba. carmelo anthony retiring. a generation of players who are turning the page. but no one will be as clear as this one. but i'm glad rachel gave us the

insider perspective, because as a fan, i would think lebron is coming back. there's no way he goes out on the loss with a sweep. he has talked so much about the desire to play alongside bronny, that it seems inevitable that this is where the train is headed, even if it is to my bulls fan dismay. >> this is not as much vacillating is tom brady. >> exactly. i could see tom brady here. there is some benefit and there is a cynical side of me that says the longer he plays the -- it's probably good for merchandise sales. >> i know, i know, but. he's exhausted. >> there is a benefit to him drying it out, to keeping the story alive. it's also going to help his son stay in the media. people are going to be looking at him. but in many ways i can see it would be every fathers dream to play with her son. you want your kids to go to the same school you went to, you think about rodney dangerfield going back to school in that old movie way back when. [laughter] >> i didn't think you were going there.

>> or a young robert downey jr.. >> on the other side of the fence i will say, that's why i certainly do believe we will see him back in an nba court next season, i understand why he is having this conversation. i understand why he is giving it some thought. i don't to be little of fact that he's going through this process, because i am joking about him being tired but the man is put in more miles, more hours, than any other player. and we have seen what it has done to his body just to get through these playoffs. i was with the lakers all through this playoff. he had to spend hours rehabilitating in getting ready to get back on the court, and the way it disrupts your life in the way it sucks so much out of, you it's a lot, and i think it's gonna feel differently in september but right now the man is tired. >> rachel, we're gonna take your word for it. you know better than any of us. thank you very much for sharing that reporting for being here tonight. disturbing new details about the man accused of ramming a u-haul truck into the barriers right outside the white house. this involves hitler and not

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>> and then she told missouri man is accused of crashing a u-haul into a security barrier outside of the white house last night. according to court filings, after his arrest he placed hitler and said he wanted to put in charge of the nation and that he would kill the president if he had to. this is video here showing the 26 foot truck stopped on the sidewalk near lafayette square, right before the driver accelerated and crashed into that security barrier. those all ring this white house complies. he was charged with depredation

of chart poverty. john, he displayed or not the flag, he said not to have a great history. he admires the authority harry nature of them, the eugenics on the one world order. i think that, sometimes our minds eye this is not what we imagine when we think of a nazi, a white supremacist, but here is his 19-year-old american who has these views. >> it would seem clear that there are mental issues involved in this, but also we are dealing with a lot of nights iconography showing up in violent acts with the texas shooter as well. i think it's interesting to folks who associate anyone who espouses nazism with white supremacism, with white supremacy, that these folks don't necessarily looked like that stereotype. to me that is part of the conversation, but it's about the broader undercurrents of hate that are much deeper than race. what attracts some of these folks, but it's deeply troubling that we are dealing with american nazi's no matter

how mentally ill people are who are doing it. >> we've seen the rise of right-wing violence and i was gonna mention the texas shooter also, but it brings us back to the elon musk conversation because they tried to downplay those links to right-wing hatred that were coming from texas. this has been ignored for a long time. it has become unavoidable. i also wanna highlight the age. 19 years old. seems to be like even outside of that question of ideology, or the kind of hatred, there this also a crisis of youth. i'm sorry to congressman jamal bowman, a former educator here in new york and he was saying part of the reason he actually got pushed into public office was because of the youth crisis he was seeing of kids being drawn into some of the stuff. it makes me think about the social media conversation we had earlier. this is a confluence of issue playing out, and the result is undeniably an increase of

violence, of a threat of right-wing virus violence, and that should have us all troubled. >> i think it's about formless identities, a need to belong to something. and the tribal identity which could be part of the authoritarian appeal. that's part of what we need to confront. we don't have a unifying story as a nation, so people are gravitating to these extreme elements, particularly if they're not doing so well mentally. >> and the man, as well. men who are lost. giannis >> for sure, young man definitely. but we think this is online poisoning? that's where they're finding each other? that's where they're finding this iconography? that's where they're being radicalized? >> every case is going to be different, but i recently interviewed an ex not who for the annex nazi, and what's terrifying is that you realize they find a way to tell themselves a story that they are doing something good, they're standing for something noble. and there's an empathy gap that ultimately is bridged but it is done overtime and if people are

isolated and angry they won't, then empathy gap is difficult to bridge. there was a much broader conversation the fact that we are dealing with people espousing nazi ideology don't look like what you think, maybe that racism is the driving source of force. >> certainly the antisemitism, the masai joni, you can pick and is him out of a hat to really brings along these kind of people who have been disaffected and draws them in. the data tells us that the internet is a place that's bringing them in. the result of that has led to this familiar feeling now and that's what's nervous about this it's not just that it is happening but i frequently it is happening and how honestly descends by some folks have for his continued happening. >> gentlemen, thank you. some of our favorite reporters when you talk about the stories we're working on for tomorrow, including why the poem written by amanda gorman, president biden's inauguration, is being taken out of the elementary

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>> hi, everyone. thanks for tuning into this hour where we bring you tomorrow's news tonight. we have a great lineup of reporters here with me. kara scannell, erica hill, zain asher, and kylie atwood. ladies, great to have you here tonight. okay, former president trump appearing via video in a new york courtroom today where he learned his trial will begin in march of next year.

this is a criminal case related to hush money payments during the 2016 campaign to adult film star stormy daniels. the judge also imposed some strict rules on donald trump. so, kara, tell us. this is unusual. tell us what the judge went to the length of explaining to donald trump and what happens if he breaks these rules. >> the crux of this protective order is the judge saying to the former president, any information you get from prosecutors as part of evidence in this case, that could be witness statements, grande prairie testimony, financial records, you can't go and post this on social media. and if you do, there are consequences for this, and among those consequences include sanctions including everything that could lead up to contempt, which he said would be punishable if he didn't get into exactly what that punishment would be. but in addition to, that trump was also restrained from looking at a lot of materials without his lawyers there. and certain materials, including a forensic