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to hush money payments during the 2016 campaign to adult film star stormy daniels. the judge also imposed some strict rules on donald trump. so, kara, tell us. this is unusual. tell us what the judge went to the length of explaining to donald trump and what happens if he breaks these rules. >> the crux of this protective order is the judge saying to the former president, any information you get from prosecutors as part of evidence in this case, that could be witness statements, grande prairie testimony, financial records, you can't go and post this on social media. and if you do, there are consequences for this, and among those consequences include sanctions including everything that could lead up to contempt, which he said would be punishable if he didn't get into exactly what that punishment would be. but in addition to, that trump was also restrained from looking at a lot of materials without his lawyers there. and certain materials, including a forensic copy of
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michael cohen's cell phone, if you look sad and he can't copy, and he can't transcribed notes. they're really trying to minimize how much of this can leak into the public ahead of the trial. >> and we all remember that donald trump does pose things on his social media, particularly when he is displeased with an investigation. so how do we get here to the point where the judge felt the need to do this? >> so this was all from the prosecutors. if you remember at the arraignment they brought up trump's post, because all leading up to the charges he was criticizing the district attorney alvin bragg. he was putting out some pretty inflammatory posts. and even then he was criticizing the judge in this case. so the prosecutor said look, you keep saying all the stuff on social media, can we reign this cnn? the judge was very even-handed. he said i've been telling both sides prosecution you control your witnesses, defense you control your client, don't put anything on social media that could be construed as inciting violence or attacking anyone individually.
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fast forward, the prosecutors can be an in the ask for this protective order because they say look, trump has an extensive history of inflammatory comments on social media. they're trying to protect this case. >> take us inside. take us first inside the courtroom and what trump's reaction was. >> so the raw video screens, there were four video screens, and as you can see from that sketch, it's actually a pretty good one, it's trump sitting next to his lawyer. >> that's a real picture. >> that's the real picture. >> yeah so he sitting next to his attorney, there's a table and peels appears to be american flags. where trying to guess where in mar-a-lago this could possibly be. unlike is at the bedroom they just didn't -- ? but he only spoke once and as for a copy of the protective order, he said yes i do. for the rest of it he was basically on mute. and when the judge is talking about the trial date, march 25th, insane to everyone here, you can't make any personal professional plans, no commitments that can interfere with this trial.
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trump became very agitated and was like looking toward his attorney. he was grumpy, didn't arms crossed thing. and we were like unmute. >> yeah we want to hear. it >> and the judge never asked. he was definitely very emotive during it. but actually only said a handful of words. >> i'm actually interested in how this is going to affect him politically. because you think that a trial right in the middle of primary campaign season season would be a bad thing. but it could actually be one of the best things ever for donald trump. >> obviously he's gonna use it to raise millions of dollars. even more importantly, he's going to make sure that every single republican candidate who is running defense him publicly against the so-called trumped up charges, just like we saw mike pence do, and ron desantis, and nikki haley. he's gonna frame it as look, it's not me on trial. it's the gop on trial. these aren't charges against just me. these are charges against every single one of us.
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and i think that it's gonna be interesting to see. a lot can happen between now and march. it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays. out >> especially, where will his standing be at hit that point in the primaries. will he be the runaway leader, or will things not shake out that way? and how will that affect this? will he do things virtually, but you have to travel along this country to do fundraisers, rallies. that really constrains him. though he is prolific it at sending videos out on social media. but that's not the same as the glaad's glad-handing he is. dan it's a fairly straightforward case but sometimes even the most straightforward cases end up taking a lot longer than you think. >> to zane's point, up until now we have seen most of his political opponents pretty much dismissed these charges so it will be fascinating to see if we are in the thick of the presidential primary if they still feel like that is the best thing for them to do.
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if there are states ahead where they still won trump voters to side with them and so they're going to defend trump, but you have to imagine that perhaps if it's a close contest are going to see that is a moment to distinguish themselves from him. and even if in the past they have dismissed these charges and gone after bragg is being politically motivated, maybe in march it's time for them to change their attack. >> it's interesting because ron desantis did, in a very sarcastic way, obviously went after brag, but he sort of said, paying porn stars, i can't speak to that. i just can't speak to that. and that's what we're gonna see more. of >> we don't even know what these other investigations if there are going to be more indictments between now and march. it's very hard to anticipate how that will rock the candidacy, or if it does at all. >> it does feel like things are heating up, particularly with our reporting, that special counsel in terms of the classified documents case, that
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he may be reaching some sort of, there was a flurry of activity and he may reach some sort of conclusion. >> so many witnesses have gone on. trump's attorneys have said they've uncovered every stone, what more could they possibly look for? we reported yesterday they asked for any records. related foreign business deals, who might have been interested in this classified information. and now we're learning that trump's attorneys have asked doj for a meeting. that is something that lawyers often do when they want to get ahead of a potential indictment. they want to try to convince the government, don't charge my climate. >> that's interesting. how will they do that? what's the process. they asked for this meeting, that just broke tonight. and did they bring in evidence? how do they convince the doj not to do? it >> every lawyer is different. i think of this is the case where it's really a legal argument here of where these documents classified, really declassified. what can they do to counter the evidence, that they know the government has, including some of the testimony that they know they have.
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some lawyers will do like presentations. but a lot of it is going to be a legal argument of, why this shouldn't be a criminal case. and also the optics of, is this really the criminal case you want to bring? but it's also to your point, part of it will be their discovery. they're going in there to try to get a better sense of what the special counsel has uncovered that they don't know about. >> exactly. i think that the key. they'll try to push out what kind of charges they're gonna. be the search warrants, everything that they're gonna learn, everything from obstruction of justice and then the issues of these classified documents, not necessarily that you would have to even have these, removal of records, but just obstruction which has been this issue that he is attorneys have been caught in the middle of as well, having to go before the grand jury, which is very unusual. >> the operating assumption the doj will accept this meeting, there's no reason they wouldn't. >> i mean, in the past they
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have. they have just accepted a meeting with hunter biden's lawyers in the exact same parallel thing. his lawyers wanted to come in, hayward's investigation going, it's been going on for a long time. and given the high-profile nature of this, you would expect that they would, but they don't have. two >> and do they openly kimono and show them what evidence they have? >> now. [laughter] >> okay, that makes sense. >> they're not going to give up their grand jury material or the information that they have. it's usually the chest game, everyone's trying to read each other to get a feel for how serious they are, if they're going to bring a case. sometimes there are moments where, when they're about to charge the prosecutors will say these are the charges we are going to bring. you tell us why we shouldn't bring them. i mean, that does happen for sure. sometimes that's when doj is like, use your last chance type of meeting at the request of trump. i don't know at this stage in
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the investigation that they will be willing to reveal. that >> kara, thank you very much for your reporting. interesting to see where we are with. this also there's a new entry in the culture wars. it is now amanda gorman's poem, the one from president biden's inauguration. that's what is caught up in this. eric is going to tell us why it is being moved out of the elementary section of a public school library in florida. that's next. check. psych! really? dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the e score. and if you don't have the right home insurance covoverag, well you could end up paying for all this yoururself. so g get allstate. up at 2:00am again? tonight, try pure zzzs all night. unlike other sleep aids, our extended release melatonin helps you sleep longer. and longer. zzzquil re zzzs all night. fa asleep. stay asleep.
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>> when there comes we ask ourselves, where can we find light in this never-ending shade? the loss we carry a sea we must way, we've brave the belly of the beast, we've learned that quiet isn't always peace, and the norms and notions of what just is isn't always just is. and yet the dawn's hours we
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knew it it was hour. somehow we do it, somehow we weathered and witnessed a nation that isn't broken but simply unfinished. >> we all remember amanda gorman's eloquence as she read her a poem, the hill and president biden's inauguration. now one miami-dade public schools moving that same pool poem out of the unknown tree section of the library and erica hill is on the story. so what is offensive about that poem? >> i'm still trying to figure it out. i went back and i re-read it a couple of times. we see the moment there. it's unclear exactly what is offensive. so this is a complaint from one single parent. we have a complaint. we can put it up for. this is a parent at the k through eight school in miami lakes who says it's quote, not educational and have, these are the exact words, not my poor grammar, and have indirect glee hate messages. also went on to say that the parents felt the poem could
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cause confusion and indoctrinate students. again, no specifics as to what it was in the poem that made the parent feel this way, but as we know the book has moved out of the elementary school library into the middle school section for 6 to 8 graders. amanda gorman responded to this, putting out a statement on instagram, i'm gutted. she went on to say, and i think we can put her statement up there. going on to say, in addition, i wrote the hill we climb so that all young people could see themselves in a historical moment. robbing the children of the chance to find their voices in mid literature is a violation of the right to free thought and free speech. we must speak out and have our voices heard. it was interesting as, well as a captioner statement on instagram, she also noted, so on that complaint we just showed you, a couple of things we highlighted. we highlighted the fact that this parent also claim that the poem, the hill we climb was written by oprah winfrey. so amanda gorman call that out
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saying so they banned my book, and went on to say, this parent, miss identified the author as oprah winfrey, just pointing out all the issues. >> one erroneous parents, one parent -- >> no details. >> no details, with an erroneous complained, can have them pull the book off the shelves. >> this is what happens. in recent reaching out here is what we heard from the district. so from schooling on my phone, miami-dade public schools, some spokes person saying to cnn, no literature, no literature books have been banned or removed, saying it was determined at the school that they the hill we climb is better suited for middle school students or shelves or the middle school section of the media center, but went on to say the book remains available in the media. >> so maybe it is a library. so if it's still the library, but in the middle school section. and the concern is, that what you're hearing from other parents, so this is also not
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the first booker palm that this same parent has an issue with. there are further other books as. well one is about cuba, one is abc's of black history, and also -- about black poet langston hughes. what you are hearing though, and we know this as parents, a lot of parents are saying, if my kid finds of books and interests them, i want them to find the book that interests them. maybe they do want to read up. if it is for middle school kids, maybe you have a really advanced reader. all of this can come into play and can come into discussion. and again, i encourage everybody to read the hill we climb. it is a beautiful. poem >> beautiful. >> i remember being in our. >> and have to say is a person of color i'm sitting here listening here to hearing you try not to be triggered by this. it feeds into the idea of this constant alienation of black and brown people in this country. >> again, what is erica saying, so okay, middle school elementary school, you can make
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the argument. you can make the argument, i don't know where it belongs. by the fact that one parent -- >> what is it in the palm that is so upsetting that pond? >> that's what i can figure out. that's why i went back and said wait a minute, was there something in this palm? i remember texting my mom afterwards and saying oh, that was amazing and then by her books and thinking, this is so great for my kids to see. that's what a moment to see this young woman, a young black woman doing this poem. this is so powerful. i'm missing something, clearly. >> the words were designed to unite. they were designed to bring americans together. i was listening again now and i know that poem quite well. there was nothing in there that alienated anyone of the population, i don't. think >> to your point, she says, i shouldn't say she, this parent says that it could have indirectly have hate messages, that it could cause confusion, that it could indoctrinate students. i'm not following any. that >> the complaint causes confusion. you don't know if it's a mother or father.
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>> we're just saying a single school parent. >> that one line that we just played from it, quiet isn't always peace. you just think about that. what they're essentially trying to do now is keep this poem more quiet, in a section of the library were not everyone can keep, it to create some peace. but it is creating this issue right now. this allowed these children to have access to books. and i do think it is worth tapping into the greater conversation in this country about the rights of parents in schools right now, and how that is such a politically sensitive topic. we are seeing in all the states right now. and it's important to give the parents rights, but it's also important to not take away the rights from the rest of the children in schools. i think that's the argument on the other side of it. this is kind of starting to reveal. >> for educators and for librarians, i think something was certainly reinforced during the pandemic, anyone who had a
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school aged child at home, it was such an important reminder of how difficult it is to be a teacher. you try to teach a kid to read, let alone matt about fifth grade, think about how difficult it is. there was a reason why people go to school for years to be educators. there's a reason you go to school to become a librarian. it's not easy. but they have a level of expertise. and all of a sudden there seems to be a movement to ignore that completely. how could you possibly know what you are talking about, you and your 30 or 40 years of teaching? clearly your clueless. >> this is the thing. these are wedge issues designed to energize the base. right now we are in a situation whereby public school education is now the front line in america's culture war, and it's not just this. if everything from so-called critical race theory, learning about race and racism, african american studies, defunding diversity equity, inclusion, transgender bathroom bills. and it's really just a wedge
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issue. it doesn't affect that many people. it's just designed to energize the base for 2024. because they tried abortion, a centrally, and that didn't really work. that backfired in the midterms. so now they have found another issue to generate, to animate voters. and that is what is designed for. >> you say doesn't affect that many people, it's one parent. this is what is so frustrating. it's hard not to see it as the tyranny of the minority. so if one parent can launch these multiple complaints against books that he or she are not comfortable with, and that the library responds, or the school response, that doesn't feel. write >> it also plays into, as well, as we are seeing across the country, you are seeing how school boards have become so political, and that there are people who were feel fearful and getting threats because they were on the school board and people in town don't like the way they were voting on certain issues, and it could be something like this. all of, that to your point, is really tied together.
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and what a sad state of affairs, that this is where we are in this is the model we are setting for a children. >> i think it's going to backfire. i think it will help certain people in the primaries, but i think in general i think it's going to backfire completely, especially among educated suburban voters. >> it may backfire but how much damage has already been done in different areas? >> yeah. >> they weren't saying rosa parks, part of the reason, we all know that rosa parks and what she did is because she was a black woman in the fact that there was recently an issue was talking about rosa parks race and the role that that played in history. that's a problem. we can have an accurate discussion about history. >> thank you for bringing us the story. obviously -- >> i'm not sorry about it it. all >> neither am i. [laughter] >> thank you both very. much still no agreement on raising the debt ceiling as we move closer to default. where do things stand at this
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>> you have heard this before, but it bears repeating. we're running out of time. before the june 1st default deadline. and gop negotiators. the gap still exist between the two sides. zain, i thought we were getting closer. what happened? [laughter] >> we have to be realistic.
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i don't see anything area where we can get a real deal at this point. we've only had eight days left. the best we can hope for is a deal to make a deal. you think about all the different things and all the different levels of arm twisting that would have to be done for there to be a deal before june 1st, and for a biden to reach a deal with mccarthy, for mccarthy to sell it to the house freedom caucus, for it to go through the house and the senate and on the presidents desk. all that needs to happen. it's unrealistic. i think june 1st, we wake up, if there is no deal, that will be very stressful day for janet yellen, obviously. i think that what is tough about it, we have heard it before, that she of course house to decide who to pay first. do you pay the international bond holders or people who are expecting social security checks and need that money to buy food and pay the rent? and of course even if those payments are late, it can have a really devastating ripple effect because people don't receive their checks, and they're late to sending out
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other checks, and those people who don't get those checks and late to sending out other checks that they owe. that does have a ripple effect. i think what is really interesting is this idea of just how hazy of a deadline june 1st actually is. the u.s. government is receiving money every day. they are also sending out money every single day. and on top of that, the june 1st early june deadline is when some big big bills are due when it comes to paying the military, veterans, senior social security checks, et cetera. on june 15th, and i think this is the silver lining, on june 15th, the u.s. government is expecting billions of dollars in coming in revenue from corporate tax receipts they come every quarter. so that's what they're expecting. so there's this idea of, can they finagle it somehow to sort of move money around to somehow stretch it -- >> does she have tricks up her sleeve? >> it's hard to tell at this
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point. it's really difficult to know. i think that when i speak to experts they say that yes, the june 15th deadline for money that is coming into the u.s. governments coffers does bide some time but they didn't say how much. but it's not clear. obviously the main decision is that they will of course pay bond holders. because you don't want to trigger an economic catastrophe. if you delay making payments on social security, that will have some consequences but nothing as bad as not being bond holders. in terms of whether or not she can stretch things out, maybe to a certain extent, but maybe not. and who knows? i think that what will happen is that come june 1st, if there is no deal, this is my guest, by the way. come june 1st, if there is no deal, we will see the stock market start to react and really react aggressively.
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when we see stocks plummet, like they will, they will drop like a stone the closer we get, that will pressure congress to come up with something. that's what i think. that's my crystal ball, guys. >> i was reading today that even wants a deal in strike we can expect the markets to go down because now the treasury has to shore up its accounts again. and i don't, know is that something that you think would happen? >> i think what's really interesting is that a lot of people are talking about this idea of just how sanguine markets have been, at least up until this point. we haven't seen this huge reaction that we would have anticipated at all. the dow today was down, what, 200 points? which is nothing in the grand scheme of things. i think that for a lot of investors the reason why there is some hesitation is that the last thing you want as an investor is to sell and then wake up tomorrow morning and it's a deal and you sort of missed out on, a, you have sold
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prematurely, but you have also missed out on a significant value. i do anticipate some kind of rally. and markets think that listen, we stared down the barrel before, we know the game goes, we know the ending to this movie that is of course going to be a deal. and when you think about all the different, as you put, it tricks the janet yellen might have up her sleeve some people say look, if she can go through mccarthy, they can't go through the market, the biden can't go through mccarthy, rather, maybe there's a way to go around him. that's tricky. but just in terms of a deal to make a deal and some kind of short term way to kick the can down the road a little longer, and then on top of that not defaulting in terms of not paying bond holders, avoiding that scenario, people believe that nothing catastrophic is going to happen just yet. but who knows? >> i already graded kicking the can down the road? like they always do [laughter]
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>> is that probably what they will probably -- ? >> that is what i imagine, that's what i think they're going to. do i also think that, look, for president biden you have to think about how this is going to cost him politically, if this goes pear shaped. with the elections next. year there's so much at stake for him, politically. if there is some kind of default that opens up a lot of room for president trump. >> when you blame him another republicans in congress? >> i think that especially with the elections coming up next year i think it would not be good for him. his approval ratings have already suffered and doesn't look good. it opens up room for double. trump when you think about, mccarthy is no wiggle room for him because he could lose his job. one person can call a vote and he could lose his job. so i'm not sure it's how i was going to play out politically, but from both sides it's so much at stake here that you would think that although, i will say for the house, there is that saying, don't think
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chicken with somebody who's not afraid to die. matt gaetz was on tv basically saying i don't believe in the june 1st deadline at all. and even though there might be some truth in terms of the wiggle room for june 1st, it's not for the reason he thinks. he's just saying i don't necessarily believe. >> he says i want jalen yellen to show her work. >> i want you to show her work. and so when you tell that caucus, listen, this is what it's gonna look like past june 1st, especially if we default, we lay out all the catastrophes, possible catastrophes, they just sort of don't seem to be bothered by. and they don't seem to care. and that is dangerous. >> i think realistically they both have a lot to lose, biden and mccarthy both. that's the reality here. but you do see that there's a little bit more of a narrative backing up mccarthy right now in the sense that he has been
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making the case that he is been trying to negotiate with the white house on this for months now, and biden officials didn't want to be seen negotiating on this because they thought it was a moot point. we have to raise the seal debt ceiling, this isn't tied to our future spending, so why are we even having this conversation? but with mccarthy making that point that he has been trying to engage and it's the white house's fault for not engaging, they have that going for them. and they have the other thing that was a cnn poll just this week that looked at what the american public thinks of this and 60% of americans believe that you shouldn't raise the debt ceiling unless you all are going to decrease spending, and so he has the american public in agreement with him even though the realistic nature of the conversation right now is this is paying for what the united states has already done.
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>> even if he has the american public sort of agreeing with him at this point in time, siding with mccarthy, if people stop receiving their checks >> they're not gonna. like >> it such a good point. >> theoretically it makes tends to tighten your belt but when you don't get your social security check and your military check, it's not gonna be great. >> i think that, the worst-case scenario the people trying about a default if you stand in the stock market, i don't know if that's gonna happen, but i think the worst-case scenario in terms of what is realistic is people just don't get those checks on time and that starts to happen. >> all right thank you very much for that. meanwhile recorded russia's ruling that the wall street journal report or -- must remain in pretrial detention till the end of august. we have new reporting on this, right after.
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i'm rich barnes. it's hard for people to k how much their accident case is worth.h barnes. t ouour juryry aorneneys hehelpou >> a russian court extended the pretrial detention of american journalist evan briscoe shipped for three more months that's. until the end of months. he's a report of the wall street journal, arrested in marriage in accused of espionage. the biden ministration the journal completely reject that accusation. state department designates him as wrongly detained. tell us what happened in court. today >> essentially this was a win for the investigators were trying to build a case against
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evan. he's facing these charges of espionage but they still have to build the case to presented in court so they asked for a pre-trial dissension to be extended and they were granted their wish today. u.s. officials obviously are not thrilled about this because essentially what it means for evan and u.s. officials who are watching this is that it's kicking the can down the. road it means he remains in pretrial detention through the end of august and presumably he's not gonna be back in court until then. you never know with the russian judicial system. so we should never say never, but it's unfortunate. and i think one thing that we continue to watch with his case, is just when conversations can actually happen between the u.s. and russia to try and secure a deal to get him out. typically the russian side does not like to engage in any of those substantive discussions until after the trial period is over. and this means that that is not
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going to happen for a lot longer. >> is this all been, where it's sort of the russians can often move trial dates. sort of will more willy-nilly than are. system >> completely. yeah. this is part of a russian judicial system that u.s. officials say is a complete sham of a system, right. it's basically these are intelligence officers who are making these requests. they are the ones doing the investigation. obviously we know that intelligence apparatus is tied closely to the kremlin in russia. and in the case of paul whelan, another american who was still wrongfully detained in russia after more than four and a half years, he was in pretrial detention for over a year. so it's not altogether surprising that this is happening now too evan gershkovich, but it's unfortunate as they are trying to get this case to a place where they can actually engage with russia on. it >> you guys were talking earlier about his parents
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there. >> i was floored when i heard. that i thought did i hear it correctly? i was driving the car when i, herded that his parents, they live here in the united states, and they left decades ago and the fact that they were there, my first thought was for their safety. >> totally. >> because the state department has said hey, by the way, don't go to russia. and >> the state department said they actually didn't provide any support for his parents to go to russia for this hearing. they showed up at the court today with his lawyer, and it was a surprise to everyone. there was no indication that his parents were actually going to show up at this courtroom for this part of the trial. i do think it is worth noting, as you said, that they fled the soviet union in 1979. they came to new york city, they settled in new jersey, they raise their family there. but folks who flee the soviet union during that time, are not viewed positively in the eyes of the kremlin. they view them as folks who
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have deserted russia. so even for evan to have that is part of his family history, it is something that some folks have speculated could have actually been one of the driving factors for the russian authorities to wrongfully detained. him >> that's been one of my questions. is part of the reason they got a lot of attention with britney griner, is part of this because he is also a journalist, and the perception, they don't know how journalist refer to the war in ukraine, they want to control, they obviously control their media. but as part of their interest in him and the value of him, because he is a journalist? >> i think definitely. i mean, when you look at the stories that evan gershkovich was writing from russia, they were not just stories written by an american journalist who was hanging out in his apartment in moscow and not engaging in trying to get the truth of the russian system. he was really getting out there. and he was reporting on putin's
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inner circle. these were stories that were really things that i know were passed around by u.s. officials because they thought that the stories were so good. so it is about him, number one, being a reporter, and also being, excuse me, a of a reporter, reviewing things that -- >> can usmca do anything in moscow? >> they're trying to do their best. their hands are tied because technically their russians are supposed to be allowing u.s. diplomats to have consular access to evan while he is in jail. the last two times the u.s. officials had made that request, russia has denied it. and there is very little or they can actually do. very little recourse because they continue to push for it. but it's not like we have many tools at our disposal in that situation. that is what makes this hard. and we do know that there were
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diplomats who attended the hearing today. we are kind of waiting to hear when moscow wakes up tomorrow morning to get more of a readout, because there were no journalists allowed into the court the courtroom. today >> so the way out for evan gershkovich in all of this is a prisoner swap. when you think about what happened with britney griner, she was swapped for viktor bout, who was the merchant of death, what that's what they mix nicknamed him, international arms dealer basketball player for an international basketball -- >> is there anybody of that caliber, for lack of a better word, that can be swapped for evan gershkovich. >> we talked about this yesterday. the u.s. says russian cyber criminals in custody. a lot of them. but the criminal and doesn't really care about them. because the sort of a diamond as. you can develop cybercriminal very quickly in there are many of them and russia and what the
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united states doesn't have in our custody right now are russian spies. and that is what russia wants in return for paul whelan, who is also charged with espionage, and evan gershkovich, so that's why they are going to allies around the world and trying to see if there are allies who have russian spies in their custody who they could offer up to the u.s. to be part of some sort of prisoner swap down the road. >> thank you very much for updating us on all of. that up next, on the lookout, our reporters tell us what stories they are looking out for on the horizon. m bill lockwood, current caretaker and owner. when covid hit, we had somome challenges like a lot of businesssses did. i heard about the payroll tax refund, it allowed us to keep the amount of people that we needed and the people that have been here taking care of us. see if your business may qualify. go to getrefunds.com.
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>> we are back with our fantastic panel of reporters to tell us the stories they are keeping an eye on. we call it on the lookout. okay, kara. >> the real of new jury. it can do to me. i have to watch it. if the antidote to all the -- >> it makes me so happy because sometimes i'm worried this too much serious in your life, and i actually think you work at the courthouse. >> i'm all in for the housewives. i can't. wait >> so you like the jersey ones best. >> i like them all. i do like when they cross over into the courthouse like jen's shot from salt lake city did. so i like to push those stories. but it's my candy. i can't. wait >> it's fantastic. thank you for alerting us to that. >> we were just talking about spies on the break, so it turns out i'm watching this germany form intelligence service, they're having a hard time recruiting spies visitors so they want to work remotely and they want to bring their personal phones to work. those are security issues. [laughter]
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so it's making hard for them to recruit. so with the problem. >> don't buy his work remotely? aren't they like always out spying on things? >> but they need to be in meetings and things. even cia who said, look at the challenge for us as well, because if you have to be in a meeting, you really probably have to be in some sort -- of, so it's a challenge for us. at the end of last year the cia added a chief well-being officer who was working things out like flexible work options. >> wow. >> child here, so that was exciting. >> good to know. thank you very. much zain? >> mine is much more serious. sorry, guys. i've been thinking about today. madeleine mccann. i grew up in london and i remember when she went missing. i just graduated from college and we were all glued to the tv screen. and you just think about what her parents are going through. i think all of our thoughts should be with her parents.
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even to this day that story has haunted me so much but now that i am a mama, even something as simple as turning my back on my child for a split second at the supermarket, i remember madeleine mccann. >> so they were gonna do another search today. do we get called? off >> the dune of the surge, the doing of the search, around the reservoir. the parents have been speaking out talking about this idea that they still have hope that she is still alive. but she is still alive after 16 years. and obviously, that's really difficult for them. i completely understand it as a parent, you don't ever want to give up hope. but, yeah, in limbo, 16 years later. nobody wants it. i hope we will get answers. >> okay, cali. >> no tearjerker's and nothing to fun. desantis is finally -- tomorrow. it's the moment we've all been waiting for. he's doing it in such a unique way. so i'm just so curious to see how this plays out.
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he is launching in a conversation on twitter with elon musk. a lot of folks are being critical of this already. obviously his political opponents are saying it's an out of touch way of announcing a presidential campaign. but it is pretty unique and we'll have to see if it catches on. i'm curious to see just how he paints himself to the american public. because he has taken a lot of action as florida governor. but who does he want to be? who does he introduce himself as to american voters? >> trump without the drama. that's what he was supposed to be. but i don't know if he has the charisma, actually. >> we shall see you tomorrow. all right, fantastic. ladies, thank you so much. so great to have you guys here tonight. tomorrow on cnn this morning, inside the long awaited netflix pau's word sharing crackdown. how that's going to work, and what it will cost you. we'll explain all that. thanks so much for watching tonight. our coverage continues now.
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