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new information about how trump will respond today. >> a typhoon packing wind gusts over 100 miles per hour and it is battering the island, a look at the devastation and the danger as the worst of it hits at this hour. >> a brain decoder or mind reader? a scientific breakthrough that is remarkable. scientists in texas on the brink of training artificial intelligence to read your mind. this is "cnn news central." ♪ ♪ ron desantis is running for president. not a news flash, exactly. everything he's been doing the last weeks and months have helped position for that. his announcement with elon musk on twitter tonight will be a culmination of that. what is new is information about what the florida governor will say and how he intends to run against donald trump.
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also new, how his opponents are positioning themselves. this is a video commercial. out just moments ago from former south carolina governor nikki haley. in it, she paints desantis as an echo of trump. >> whatever i want he wants. >> you're fired! you're fired! >> then mr. trump said, you're fired. i love that part. >> make america great again! >> make america great again. >> so that's haley comparing desantis to trump, how will trump himself and his supporters deal with ron desantis today. cnn kristen holmes, you've been looking at her right there waiting patiently. you have the answers and the trump team, what do they plan to do today? >> one thing i do think is very interesting is months ago when desantis was soaring in the polls before trump had that
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recent surge, his advisers told me that they believe that these other candidates would go after desantis and not donald trump, and so it's interesting to see that starting to happen with this desantis announcement. in terms of the former president, his campaign and his allies, there is a coordinated rollout, i am told by advisers to bracket desantis' announcement and do what trump seems to do best which is take all of the oxygen out of the room. this includes rolling out videos including one of trump directly addressing the desantis candidacy. it will also include a social media blitz. this is something that trump's team has spent months trying to achieve. they have been courting these big-name conservative commentators with huge followers and trying to get them behind the former president and having those posts out there. the things that we are hearing that surrogates will really be hitting desantis on are a number of policy issues both from when
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he was in congress and from when he's been florida governor and that is reforming entitlement programs, a trade policy, china. his covid-19 response and now they say there's more to that and they have research, opposition research that will show desantis' decision that we'll wait to see here and the one thing to keep in mind is that despite the fact that trump is surging in the polls, his team knows this isn't over yet. >> no. indeed, just the beginning. we were watching it play out in real time between trump and desantis and now that nikki haley video which was really remarkable positioning, kristen, as you mentioned and thanks so much for being with us. sarah? >> let's keep the conversation going with republican strategist and former rnc communications director, doug hyde. thank you very much for coming on the show today. >> thank you. >> this move to announce on twitter. it used to be fireside chats and then it moved on to different things. what does this actually mean for ron desantis and is it something
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that's a little bit odd? certainly different. well, it's certainly different and i don't know if it will be odd am we see it and elon musk will be part of it and raises questions and so often, sarah, we focus the announcement because that's the flash point that everybody looks at and the reality is what's important is what comes after this and what we see from ron desantis and his team and they're building out a very big team and being very present in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina with a lot of door knocking and so forth. that will be key for desantis now and not some announcement and unless things go horribly wrong which we've seen happen in announcements before, but you still have time to recover. >> i'm thinking not horribly wrong and tim scott had the microphone fail for him for quite a time there when he made his announcement and it was an awkward moment. speaking of awkward, there are critics of desantis including donald trump who see him as a bit awkward and doing this
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announcement, does that give his critics fodder because it is on a platform that he's speaking with someone else who is in that same boat? >> you know, in politics whatever you do becomes fodder for your critics. what's black is white, what's white is black and that's the reality of politics. people will criticize you in your party or the other party, whatever you do. what's important for desantis regardless of how he says tonight s how he does nationally. the more candidates who get in the better it is for donald trump and somehow a 2016 redux. this is nothing like 2016 and it starts because donald trump is an absolute front runner and no one disputes that and he's leading massively in the polls which wasn't the care in 2015. rick flair taught us to beat the man, you have to be the man. you have to confront him directly and if you fail to do
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so, you're not going to win the nomination. >> the biden campaign and democrats are basically saying, look, we think we can beat desantis. they're going to attack him for what they believe are extreme policies. they cite the abortion ban, they cite his book bans and his war on wokeness, and the situation now where amanda gorman's poet that she read at the presidential inauguration has been thrown out of a library and these are some of the thing he's going to be attacked on. do they have a good platform to go after him? >> i think certainly there's a legitimate conversation about what our students are being taught. what age is appropriate to read earnest hemingway's "up in michigan" and recognizing that a poem by amanda gorman or a book about jackie robinson should be in libraries and should be taught, but when republicans launched this war on wokeness as
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they call it, it's about the fight itself. it's not about the details. they sort of fall on the wayside, but i tell you if democrats think we can beat this person or we can beat that person, it has to start with joe biden's approval numbers. if they remain where they are joe biden is in a lot of trouble. >> want to ask you about the field that is certainly growing with desantis expected to announce tonight. we heard from senator scott yesterday and we've got asa hutchinson and nikki haley and it's gotten quite large now. are we looking at something similar in 2016 now in the republican primary? >> no, at this point, i don't think so. it starts differently with donald trump. when he took the escalator ride in trump tower nobody took it seriously and now where we are in may 2023, we take donald trump very seriously. the nomination doesn't go around him, you've got to confront him. it's smart of nikki haley to attack desantis today and
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tomorrow they need to attack darth vader directly and that's donald trump. >> donald trump and darth vader put together by doug heye. >> only one concession that they're going to agree to is that they're going to raise the debt ceiling. that is the startling statement coming from the house speak tore c er to cnn to avoid defaulting on the nation's debts. listen to the speaker in his own words. >> you've been asking for the white house to make concessions and we're going to raise the debt ceiling. >> that's it. manu raju is with us now. mccarthy was with you and that statement sticks with me and you just spoke with one of the lead negotiators in these talks. where are things? >> yeah. that's right. i talk to the patrick mchenry, the chairman of the house
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financial services committee and i asked him about that statement that speaker mccarthy said that he would agree to one concession to raise the national debt limit and avoid default and not meet the democratic demands on the range of issues and the democrats want to raise taxes and the white house has pushed for taxes to deal with revenue. he said there's not a revenue problem and they have to cut federal spending and that's the bottom line, and mchenry telling me if there is an agreement to unlock federal spending and that unlocks the issues here. the white house has an effort to freeze spending and speaker mccarthy said he will not go for that and at the same time the democrats are coming back saying they need to give him something in order to get any democratic support if the deal can be reached at all and that remains the big question. as this is playing out people are looking for escape hatches to avoid the first-ever default as soon as june 1st and one of
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those escape hatches to circumvent the republican leadership and raise the national debt limit without any republican support from the leadership, but they would need a handful of republicans to join ranks with the 213 democrats to force this vote. i asked a number of these swing -- the republicans from swing districts and moderate republicans if they would join the democratic effort and they all rejected it. >> my position is never change. the president must negotiate with the speaker. they're finally negotiating. so maybe what leader jefferies should be doing is actually supporting those negotiations and working to find compromise rather than undermine it and create chaos. that might be a good idea for a leader of the party to try that. >> it sounds like you're not interested in this idea. >> i am not interested, no. >> i'm not going to vote on a clean debt ceiling without some sort of responsible, reasonable
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mechanism to say hey, time out on spending. >> this is why the only game in town is this negotiation between speaker mccarthy, his top allies and the white house and things that have not gone toward getting a deal and they will meet again this morning according to mccarthy and then the question is how long will it take if there is a deal to put it together and get it through the house and the senate and get enough support to get the votes to get it through. all huge questions as default is now just days away. >> absolutely. great reporting as always, manu. >> it's not a concession to raise the debt ceiling. it's actually their job. >> yes, and it's something they have done without conditions in the past. >> i understand posturing and public posturing. we will continue to see them. >> excellent point. >> thank you sir. >> the eye wall of typhoon marwar is making landfall. this is the biggest storm to hit the pacific island of guam in
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years. it has winds of 65 miles per hour and extremely heavy rainfall and officials are warning of possible landslides, flash flooding and storm surge. derek van dam is live tracking this storm for us. what are you seeing? >> yeah, respectfully, john. a landfall, hurricane or typhoon has to have the center of the eye over land mass and that didn't happen, but it was close and it brought its toughest conditions yet and it is still very much in the thick of it. let's analyze this because it is a very interesting satellite loop and here it is. we anticipated a direct land fall with the storm, but the typhoon went through what is called an eye wall replacement and it wobbled the system north and circumvented the island and it's hugging the western island and this has implications for who gets the strongest winds in the storm surge and heavy rain. this is what it looked like outside of the national weather service just a few hours ago
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during what was called an extreme wind warning. they reserved those words for very specific moments when winds are very dangerous to life and property and they certainly were at that particular moment in time. here is the storm, a large mass of orange and the definitive eye has closed in and still 140-mile-per-hour winds along the eye wall. we can't see it as the moment because quite frankly, the radar has been knocked out. we have 16 inches of rain already recorded in some locations and it's incredible. that's why flash flood warnings are in place and more rainfall to come, another five to seven i inches and the storm surge potential not as high, but it is the western coastlines that will feel most vulnerable to the storm. >> an important clarification, not an eye wall landfall, an eye wall landscape. appreciate it? there you go. you learn something new every
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day. >> sarah? >> it has been one year since one year since the shooting in texas and the families are still searching for answers. an uncle joins us next. >> displaying the ten commandments fails in the state house, but is it gone for good? amanda gorman read her striking poem at president biden's in inraising and a florida school has restricted access to it, and guess what? the mayor of miami-dade has responded. what she says after the break. hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you knowow with priceline you could actually take that trip responded. what she says afteter the break. ? the mayor of miami-dade hahas responded. what she says after the brbreak. responded. what she says after the break. ♪ go toto your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪
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accused of crashing a u-haul truck into a security barrier near the white house monday night is expected to appear before a federal judge today at 1:15 this afternoon. sai kandula was ordered held without bond yesterday. court documents revealed he praised hitler after his arrest and told investigators he aimed to, quote, kill the president and put himself in power. >> now through a stunning new report from the illinois attorney general is exposing widespread abuse in the illinois catholic church. according to the report, more than 450 adult catholic clergymen abused nearly 2,000 children in illinois for decades. the report contains detailed accounts of the abuse, list of the accused clergymen and recommendations to keep churches accountable and improve future investigations. the republican-controlled texas state house has failed to
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expand a controversial bill. the midweeasure would require pc schools to display the ten commandments in the classroom. they could not meet the midnight deadline for final passage. the legislation ends may 29th, so there is still time for the legislator to use procedural tactics to try and bring it back up again. kate? it was one year ago today that a gunman opened fire inside an elementary school in uvalde, texas. the reality of what was happening there was almost too much to comprehend as it unfolded and the news came out. 19 little children and two of their teachers were killed. their murders forever altering the lives of everyone who knew and loved them, and it shattered their community. today, so many of these families are still begging for answers one year later. listen to this from some of the work done by our colleague shimon prokupecz with the whole
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story. >> you know, maybe lexi is gone immediately and that's what they've taken from me. had they engaged immediately, and my child was deceased then i know that she wasn't scared very long, and now i don't know if it was fast, and i don't know if it took 30, 40 minutes and that's hard. that's hard to sit with. >> that's the family of lexi rubio. another family with the very same questions sharing those very same questions is the family of jacquie cazares. her uncle jesse rizo joins us. you and i have talked many times over the past year, and i know that you and jackie's family have been preparing somehow for this day to come and now that it's here today, how are you feeling? what are you feeling? >> it's overwhelming, sadness,
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somber moment. you know, this is a day that you reflect and you think about the love that they shared and the children and what jackie's like and all you can do at this point is basically support each other on a day like this. there's a day, other days you battle and ask the hard questions and you want those answers, but on a day like this is a day when you pray and unite with your family and the rest of the families. we've grown to be one big family, kate, and if anything good came out of this that's one good thing. we all love each other and are there for each other and we stand with each other. so we know that -- that things are going to be tough down the road, as you mentioned just a minute ago, that the answers have not been provided so there's no sense of healing, no sense of closure. you can lean on faith and you can lean on your friends and the
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community and the people that reach out from across the world and tell us, you know, that they love us. so we lean on that. we count on that, but tomorrow is another day and tomorrow the same questions linger, to be honest with you. >> yeah. absolutely. what we're showing right beside your image here in studio, jesse, is the image of jackie and really, in my mind never having known her and for everyone else, she is kind of frozen in time as this adorable little girl in her first communion dress, and that's kind of how she is always going to be remembered by so many because she's kind of frozen in time in that beautiful little dress with that beautiful little smile. on this day, is there one memory that you're holding on to today of jackie?
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there are many. we go to the park and we go to the river, the barbecue and her love for anything, everyone, any animal in the water, the family. you miss all of that. to me, the most -- the thing that left the impression with me was at the first communion at church where you basically imagine what it's going to be like the quinceanera when she turns 15 and the wedding you see that -- but that day, the way that she interacted with all of our family, it's like she brought us together one last time. almost as if she knew. the entire family was at my brother's house when we celebrated the communion at my brother's house. that really -- the dress, that innocence, you know, the -- the
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veil on her head, the little crown, you know, on her head. it's just -- you hold on to that, you know, that's all you have at the end. the memories that you were able to build. i'm glad, honestly, kate that i have the privilege -- i'm glad i had the privilege of getting to know the innocence of someone like this, and i mentioned this in the past. jackie -- jackie's only one story, kate. all these children, the teachers, they all have the same and similar story. the love that they were able to give to the world, really. you look at those pictures and their smiles and their innocence and never did they think that this was going to happen. it's -- it's devastating, to be honest with you and to think that it happened in the community and the world, it's
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gut-wrenching, to be honest. >> can i ask you really quickly, today you remember jackie. every day you remember jackie, of course, but today is the day you get through and tomorrow the fight continues for answers. this is maybe impossible to answer, but why do you think you still do not have the answers that you so deserve, that the families so deserve. what happened minute by minute and why it took so long and who is to be held responsible for it? >> i think a lot of times, kate, people refuse to accept the facts. they refuse to acknowledge their -- their competence, basically, and that information will eventually come out in litigation through attorneys and stuff like that. it's only a matter of time, and so as far as my community, there's been a lot of outreach and personal messages and stuff
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like that, but i think that they're hoping that if the longer that it takes that somebody will go away almost as if it never happened, and that's the only thing on eye try to make sense out of this often, and it just doesn't make any sense. >> yeah. >> in other communities thatjus >> yeah. >> in other communities that you have you have people come out and issue statements and in uvalde it was a totally different scenario, and it's honestly, it's disappointing. i don't -- it just doesn't make any sense at all. >> and i know that you and so many others -- have not given up and have somehow found the strength and the light in the darkness of it all which is hard to understand especially on a day like today, but jesse, thank you for always being -- for always coming on and sharing. i really appreciate it. we're thinking of you today.
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>> thank you. >> thank you. >> john? >> kate, well said. so much strength there. so she read her poem at the inauguration and then a florida school restricted access to it. now the mayor of miami-dade says come read it in person. that coming up. also, can ai read your mind? does it want to read your mind? scientists closer to finding an answer. an spf-icionando if you will. my bottle of choice? neutrogena ultra sheer. a lilightweight blend that protects 6 layers deep with a smooth dry-totouch finish. this r round is on me. neutrogena ultra sheer. my name is b brian delallo. i teach ap and honors economics in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. i can be free to do the things that i love to do.
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♪ a poem written for president biden's inauguration was moved out of a florida elementary school library after a parent complained. the powerful inauguration poem called "the hill we climb" was written by amanda gorman, the youth poet laureate. it unified and left the country better than the one we were left. a material review panel at the school did not remove the poem from the school entirely. it did move the poem and other disputed items to the library's middle school section. cnn reporter carlos suarez is joining us now. carlos, we're hearing from the
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mayor of miami-dade county who is responding to this move by this library. what is she saying? >> yes, sarah. good morning. miami-dade mayor daniella levine cava is weighing in on this and she has invited amanda gorman to read her poem in south florida. we are still waiting on the school district to provide to cnn a copy of the review decision. it is unclear what part of gorman's poem was not age appropriate for elementary students, but was okay for middle school students. the complaint was obtained by the florida freedom to read project. it shows that the parents said that she objected to the material because, quote, is not educational and have indirectly hate messages. she's asked what she believes the function of the material to be and the parent wrote, quote, caused confusion and indoctrination. she's also asked whether she's aware of professional reviews on
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the material and the parent wrote, quote, i don't need it. she incorrectly said that the book was authored by oprah. she was able to do this under florida's parental rights and education law, and in response to this, a committee made up of educators at the school, they agreed to move the book at the k through 8 school. in a statement, miami-dade county public schools said, quote, it was determined by the school that "the hill we climb" is better suited for middle school students and located in the middle of the media center. the book remain available in the media center. a parent with the freedom to read project said the move is a ban, and she took issue with the reasoning that the vocabulary isn't age appropriate for elementary students. >> it sounds like the parent who complained was uneducated at least about who wrote this. it certainly was not oprah.
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it was amanda gorman. thank you very much, carlos suarez for your reporting, john or kate. >> scientists in texas are on the brink of a breakthrough when it comes to artificial intelligence. they're training ai to essentially read your mind. here's how it apparently works because i understand it so well. the person's brain is scanned while listening to audio clips and then the ai bit of this will translate that scan into something of of a transcript of what the person was thinking. antonio sullivan met with the scientist behind this breakthrough. it sounds like mind reading, but i'm sure these scientists -- that's not what people think it is. >> they're not calling it despite the gigantic sign that says mind reading machine. >> don't read the wall! >> it works in very specific circumstances and i tested it out, and i hopped into the scanner for a while and we listened to "the wizard of oz" audio book as we had our brain scanned and then we saw if the ai could figure out what we were
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listening to. have a look. >> so this is one from my brain. this is from the wizard of oz. on the left side is the actual words that i heard. when she'd finished her meal and was about to go back to the road of yellow brick, she was startled to hear a deep grown nearby, and the decoded version of this is on the right. i was about to head back to school and i hear this strange voice calling out to me. so it gets some things right. it was about to go back and about to head back and it completely misses some things like the road of yellow brick and the school and she hears something and instead of a deep grown nearby, it said a strange voice calling out to me. it is related even though it's not the right words. >> it is pretty incredible that was about to head back is something that by scanning your brain. >> yeah. that's one of the things that's really surprising to us about this. it can get things like that and the entire phrases of exact words.
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so here's the same segment for you. >> so we expected mine not to be grace. >> the whole day was mine, and at first i got a little excited about it. >> the reason it wasn't able to decode my brain was because the technology currently needs people to sit in the fmri machine for more than 16 hours and the ai models can train on specific people's brains. >> are we going to live in a world where i can walk by someone on the street and they'll hold something over my head and they'll know what i'm thinking? >> currently, we are very far from that. that also might never be possible. we can't completely rule it out, but as far as we know that certainly won't be possible in the next few decades. >> yes. so pretty incredible. >> remarkable! >> also, you were very excited. >> that behind me there is my brain and we have confirmed that
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i have a brain. >> neither you or i know how much gray matter there is there. >> this could be creepy and they say the technology is nowhere near picking up our thoughts and this could have potentially life-saving, people who can't speak, this can be a way for them to communicate. >> it's a marvel and we can all go sci-fi on this and it is truly remarkable what they're working on and john is looking at me the very same way because i can read your mind, which is no one needs to get in these minds and read what's going on here. >> i think it's awfully convenient that donie said it couldn't read his mind. >> selective editing, john. >> all right. thank you, donie, by the way. attorneys for donald trump have requested a meeting with attorney general merrick garland.
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they want to talk about, but presumably, it's the investigation into the classified documents found in the former president's mar-a-lago home. in a letter, they characterize the special counsel's investigation as unprecedented and unfair. special counsel jack smith who is looking into the mar-a-lago documents as well as situations surrounding the january 6th insurrection has made moves that appear to show the documents investigation could almost be over. with us now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jennifer rogers, great to see you, counselor. in a vacuum which we're not in, politics aside, how unusual is it for defense lawyers to ask investigators or prosecutors for a meeting late in the game? >> not at all. it happens all the time, in fact, with high-powered and high-paid lawyers like these you expect it to happen and that piece of it is totally normal. >> talk about that because that's why i say it's in a vacuum.
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garland isn't the investigator here so why is that significant? >> he's trying to go over his head, it means he's not going over his head and they either met with jack smith which i think merrick garland will not allow to happen. say they did get a meeting with jack smith and not merrick garland because that seems like a loaded thing here. what goes on in these meetings when you're talking to the people who are investigating you? >> so what happens usually is the defense lawyers say give us a chance at the end of the investigation to come in and convince you not to indict our client. so prosecutors take the meetings both for courtesy and also to see what they're going to say and are there holes in the case and they'll pitch why these are things you haven't thought and don't indict our client and here, i'm wnot sure that's the meeting they're requesting and this wasn't even a let's have a serious evidence forward talk about this case. it was just i'm being treated unfairly. i really want to make a
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complaint more than anything else. >> jack smith, the special counsel will make a recommendation presumably whether to bring charges or not and it will be merrick garland who makes the ultimate decision. why does this happen late in the game and what do you think it is that they're seeing and if we'll do this, we have to do this now. >> they know when it's getting toward the end, right? because they see like everyone else does who is going to the grand jury and what documents will be collected and prosecutors aren't going to make the decision until the end so there's no point in pitching them until they have all of the facts just like the prosecutors have all of the facts and that's why it happens at the end. >> more sides could be reaching a critical juncture. jennifer rodgers, thank you. target is pulling items of the pride collection off of its website and the shelves. the safety concern that the retail giant says led them to make this decision.
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less than a month after rolling out its pride collection target is pulling some products from its stores. the retail giant says the decision was made after customer backlash led to concerns over the safety of their employees. this comes on the heels of conservative backlash against bud light after anheuser-busch promoted the beer on social media last month with trans gender influencer dylan mulvaney. matt egan joins us now with more. this is an interesting statement that target is actually worried about the safety of its employees? >> that's right, sarah. this is just the latest battle
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in america's culture wars. last month it was bud light facing this anti-transgender backlash and the disney versus ron desantis fight which is clearly not going away any time soon and now it's target saying they're pulling some of their pride products, and i think the most interesting thing here is the why. target says they're doing this because the safety of their employees is being threatened, and i think it's important to note that celebrating pride month is not a new thing at target. they said they've been actually doing this for over a decade. i think perhaps what has changed, though is the environment that they're doing it in. let me read you the statement from target. they said since introducing this year's collection, we've experienced threats impacting our team members' sense of safety and well-being while at work. given these volatile circumstances, we're making adjust a adjustments to our plans
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including at the center of the most significant confrontational behavior and they're committed to celebrating pride month and standing with the community. we don't know the details yet here including the specific nature of the threats to employees nor where this was happening. we also don't know specifically which products target is pulling and which ones they're going to continue to sell, but according to reuters, their pride collection at target includes more than 2,000 items including everything from gender-fluid mugs and queer all-year calendars including children's books. target does not want to become the next bud light here, but these companies, they're facing a minefield where one wrong step risks alienating half the country, sarah. this will not be easy for target and we'll continue to see these issues pop up. >> and not easy for the lgbtq community either. thank you so much, matt egan. i appreciate your reporting on this.
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