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-- florida governor ron desantis announcing his 2024 white house bid tonight on twitter, in a conversation with twitter owner elaine musk. but they did have some technical glitches and crashes the forehand and sara fischer is covering this story for us. sara fischer, i joke before in the last hour that elon musk has had easier rocket launches than this launch of governor desantis's presidential announcement. what went wrong, what happened, to derail this? >> i think you had huge volume. they have had twitter spaces before, alisyn, that had a lot of listeners. the one that he did with bbc -- i think it had up to 3 million people listening up at the same time -- >> okay. >> -- but the problem is, they had so many people coming in at the same time, in part -- and we were just talking about this -- because folks like elon musk that have massive followers -- he has over 100 million people that follow him -- when they tweeted out the link, it exposed this event to so

many more people then typically gets exposed. but just the sheer volume of people that came in crashed the site. now, a huge problem here, alisyn, to your point, is -- isn't elon musk supposed to be the technologist? wasn't he supposed to be the person to bring product innovation and updates to twitter? the fact that this was going to be your most high-profile event, and you couldn't get it right, is a huge issues blow to twitter. i will say, hopefully this is an impetus for them to hopefully take a lot more things seriously. they fired a ton of engineers. they had 7500 people that work for them. there's about 1000 now. maybe they are starting to realize that this product is going to need actual, serious attention if they want to continue to host live events like this, announcements, shows, it sattre. >> so, on the political front, what message do we all think it says by him choosing twitter as the venue instead of something more traditional whistle stop like -- at the beach bar, in florida, something where you are surrounded by people instead of technology. what message does that send? >> he's always been one that has wanted to go around the

mainstream media and he has blocked them from mainstream events, he's block them out. the challenge though is that, in reality, we know you can't actually do that. -- that's why fox news was his backstop to this. he had an interview with him shortly after the twitter interview. so, the message he is trying to stand is that i am away from the mainstream media. i am above it. i can go around them. unfortunately, it did not work out the way he wanted. >> yeah, and they all talked about it like this was the town square, the national town square that everybody could have and chime in. but at the end of the day, it was a conference call among like-minded people. there wasn't much there. >> it's true. and it's worth noting that elon musk has said that he's a free speech absolutist. he has said that he does not want to make anyone feel they are being censored on the platform. that's been a huge complained for republicans. the other message that ron desantis is standing by going on twitter is that, i agree we have a culture wars problem here. i agree that conservatives have been -- i'm going to go to a platform that --

>> here i have two questions, and i don't know if you can answer them. but i'm just want to put them out there. number one, i'm confused as to how many actual constituents and would-be voters of his are actually on twitter itself. and to the other issue that he has been plagued with, that he is socially awkward, that's been the description that we have been hearing from friends and foes for the last year and a half. why use this platform, where we don't see? when we don't get that side of you? that perhaps is more congenial, is warmer? and give him that opportunity to show himself and debunk some of these narratives that are out there and -- >> such smart questions. let's take the first one. by the numbers, we all used to watch the same the broadcast networks 50 years ago. we have now segregated that into many, many different platforms. cable news has 66 million households subscribers in the u.s.. that's down from about 100 million just a few years ago. twitter has about 50 million u.s. users. so, it's not like -- to say that voters are not they

are, actually would not necessarily agree with that. i think that voters are everywhere nowadays. and i think they are just as likely going to be on twitter as they are going to be watching a particular network on cable news. the difference is reliability. cable has a reliable seed. that is something that sports networks are wrestling with when they're trying to figure out if they put those shows on screaming services. and because of that, we know when it is going to air. we know it is going to -- we know that we can cut those clips quickly and get them firing on social media without a problem. we don't have that kind of reliability, as you saw with the technical issues, on social media. to your point about why did he choose an audio feed, if you're trying to prove that he is gregarious and he is prepared to be presidential? i think he was not thinking, necessarily, about the image that he was going to portray. because he had backup videos. he had this fox interview that was going to roll out right after. what his priority was was sending the message that i am going to do things differently and i am going to go around the mainstream media. i agree with you that it is a weird move. this is somebody that needs to show his face. we know what his name is but he's not somebody that has done

a lot of mainstream interview. so i don't think a lot of voters in places outside florida actually know what he looks and sounds and feels like. i also think that he is not the most charismatic speaker. just listening to audio with him did not necessarily mean that i am going to feel we have to talk about listening to him more. that is actually something that donald trump is excellent at. donald trump would kill b -- because he is so charismatic. i think he probably made -- >> sorry -- this is also the elon musk effect. these are birds of a feather. people know elon musk. even if you don't thing about him, you kind of have a sense of who he is, this carmaker guy who build spaceships and everything. they do seem to get on together and that -- whether you hear it or not, people will know that they were together at this event. >> and let's not forget why they got connected. so, obviously, there has been a long-standing relationship there. elon musk tweeted last year that if you were up against biden he would support desantis. but the moderator of today's conversation, a guy named david sacks, is a longtime desantis supporter and he is a longtime friend of elon musk.

when he took over the company brought david sacks into a lot of the transitions, et cetera. so i think that that mutual find a common which made some more easier and -- friendly place. >> my question is, listen -- we have been to a not every campaign events. not everyone goes -- amy klobuchar was drenching snow couple years ago. i guess a lot of the headlines that i saw after this focused on the bungled roll out of this campaign. how long will that last? and i can't imagine any politician wanting that to be the major headline of your presidential rollout. >> 100%. so, i was texting with the ceo of chart beat, a company that measures media consumption and coverage. and this is what he had to say about it and john sarraf -- and this, by the way -- chart beat has thousands of publisher clients. -- covered both as straight news and from the twitter glitch. it got about equal coverage of both. he says that four from a pure

recognition perspective it may have actually helped him. >> there you go! >> -- >> the thing is, i kind of agree with john's point there. the fact that now we are all talking about this -- it's leading the show. we have to talk about this bungled announcement. it has put ron desantis above donald trump today. and in the news cycle -- and that, by the way, is like gold in this day and age -- >> what about elon musk? what did it do for elon musk? is he a competing -- with rupert murdoch -- to be this conservative media site, basically? we >> heard about that this morning. i kind of think so. think about it. fox fires tucker carlson. a few weeks later he says i'm bringing my primetime show to twitter. then you have the daily wire, which is a huge conservative media and entertainment company. i reported, it's putting all its video podcast on twitter. then you have ron desantis coming in and saying, i'm going to announce my campaign on twitter. it definitely feels like twitter is the center of gravity for the republican party right now. i don't need to say that fox --

is not silver evident relevant. it is. it's definitely the number one cable news network for republicans. but i think elon musk has hit a nerve with the republican party, who has felt betrayed by mainstream media, who wants to go to a place where they feel like they have a voice and they are not going to get censored. and that is helping him to court those republicans, to landed two views. i know for a fact we are going to be reporting about more shows, more exclusives moving over to twitter from the conservative sphere in the coming weeks. >> so interesting how the landscape is changing changing before our eyes. sara fischer, thank you for all that reporting. it's really helpful. okay, next -- another awful, violent subway incident. the second this month. it has new yorkers on edge and so miguel marquez has been digging into the facts and figures on -- and the subway. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. if you think you have dupuytren's contracture, there's a simple test you can take—from anywhere.

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man with allegedly pushing a woman's head into a moving train as she walked on a manhattan subway platform. miguel marquez has been following the story for us. miguel, the details here are awful. just tell us what happened, what we know about the suspect, and how is the victim. >> horrendous. this is one of those stories that causes new yorkers such -- because it is happening in a public place, on the subway that we take every day. sunday morning, very early, five a.m. our, this man, who, it turns out is a homeland homeless man, kamal samrade -- he jumps the turnstile at -- she follows him a few minutes later. police say -- and this comes from both nypd and from our john miller, who is able to get a -- who is familiar with this case. she follows him a couple -- of few minutes later, they don't seem to know each other at all. they get on the same subway, they go to 63rd and lex, they both get off at the same time. what is disturbing about this -- the picture of this guy, if we could put that up, he looks

completely normal. he is having a coffee. >> yep, dressed normally. >> police were able to get this picture and that's how they were able to get him, eventually. as the train starts early -- they both both get off the train a 63rd and lacks. as the train starts to leave, he comes up behind her. and with all his force, according to police, pushes her into the moving train. her face hits the train as it is going by. she is terribly injured, paralyzed from the neck down at this point. her face damaged very badly as well. she is alive -- they have a gofundme for her right now. but it is just a horrific crime. >> as you say, new yorkers are rattled. they have been rattled for a while about the subway. because they feel as though there is more violence on the subway. i know you are going to give us the stats about this. but of course, this follows on the chokehold death on the subway. it has been a bad run here from

the subway. >> it's bad. it is getting better. i think, probably, most of us take the subway here. since after the pandemic, i will agree, it was a no-man's-land down there. it was disturbing. it has gotten noticeably better, as someone who takes the subway. the numbers seem to bear that out as well. this month -- major crime on the transit system is down 6.7%. that follows a trend of this year where it is down about 9%. >> so, year to date, almost down 9%, although that's -- obviously -- people don't know that, necessarily. that's not the sort of hype that goes around. >> right. and while statistically, you may know that this is a safe place to ride, i think mentally, when you hear these stories, once you know that there is an increase in crime regardless of what the police are doing now, you've got more people in uniform, patrolling these subway stations -- i think the fact that it happens at random times during

the day, at random subway stations -- this isn't at two in the morning, in the middle of nowhere. people in the city -- i know this speaks for me. i view safety in numbers. and when you go on the subway platforms and when you see a lot of people, you associate that with safety. and yet -- >> right. >> we continue to hear stories like these. and yet, i tell myself, subways are safe to go on. my 11-year-old son is now afraid to go on subways because he hears about these incidents. and again, i think that is a really hard problem to rectify. once people know and are seeing stories like these -- even if they know that the numbers are going -- down >> but i assume you are more vigilant when you get on the subway. >> i pay attention. but again, this is my city. i don't want to be that person that is judging people walking by me and -- >> we were talking about this earlier. i don't listen to my headphones when i'm on the platform. i wait until i get in the car. i make sure i know who is standing around me. i guess maybe i have always done that.

and then once you get in the car you make a pretty quick -- you know, a snap decision about who is in the car. if also, as you said, they've flooded the subway system with police officers -- there are announcements saying that there are police at the station, if there is a problem. but five a.m. on a sunday, you don't expect this. people are just going about their lives. >> and i had no qualms before, once upon the time, to lean forward and look to see if a train is coming on platform. i never do that. now >> -- i grew up in new york and -- as a young teenager, always was just riding the subway and -- i fell asleep on the subway and then -- >> [laughter] -- >> that was the same message. it was -- you don't want to be on the car, necessarily, where there is not a single soul there. it's you want to be where there is a lot of people. and i guess, as someone who has not lived here for a little bit, i was -- i would never have thought twice about getting on the subway. but it does seem like -- i mean, it does seem like the apprehension, at the very least, even if the numbers are not bearing it out, the apprehension israel -- >> what is it like this in philly. you are in philly now to. have the same fears in philly? or is this a new york thing?

>> i think everyone experienced the post pandemic dip in ridership. and then things got a little hairy in terms of empty cars or different people using the subway for different things. listen, philadelphia has had some problems that have been what i would call high profile crimes that have happened -- the septa is what we call it down there. but still, when i used to work in the city itself, i would use the subway to go to work. i know many colleagues who take the train from the subway suburbs and come. and i think ridership is down and they are trying to correct that as well. but again, it's a perception versus weather, is it actually is babbitt's it's ever been? >> and sara fischer, do you take that -- >> -- in clarendon, and i live in the city. i feel very safe in d.c.. but also, our metros are built super differently. we are not in this tiny little underground tunnel. there are these big archways. and actually, to physically push someone into a train would be kind of hard. we have much bigger gaps, also, in d.c.. the question i have for you, miguel, thinking about what we

have in d.c., there's a ton of advisories -- i think there's a lot of education from one of that, that's the people who run our metro -- about us, where we can, go where we can get all help -- i know where the defibrillator is in my mentor. do you guys have that? you people understand in new york where they can get resources and all of that? or is it just like, okay, there are police here, go find them? >> i don't know where -- i would go to the subway -- to the operator, the operator car or to the box up front, up top, to get -- and >> sometimes you are not in that box, by the way. >> right. >> that's empty sometimes. and then starting to be a thing as -- well they are empty at some point as well because they have not had staffing, at least in all of those, across the subway system -- so i don't think that there is that level of information in new york. the thing with your is that there's always people around. there is always police and other emergency personnel either in or near the subway. of course, when someone -- when an incident happens they are never close enough. but it is -- >> and that's different in philadelphia. in philadelphia it is not like the new york subway system

where it is back to all of the time. there are certain times in certain months there are more packed than -- others >> right. >> but that is one big difference that i think at some of that fear. >> i think it does require us to be valence. when i see people on the subway, i see people buried in their phones. -- looking around and not being buried in my phone. because, if every single person is, i don't know, it just seems like it is possible that there could be more trouble. thank you very much for all of that reporting. all right, meanwhile, u.s. intelligence is still trying to determine who is behind the drone attack on the kremlin a few weeks ago and bianna golodryga has new reporting on the story.

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>> -- ukrainian special forces behind that drone attack on the kremlin earlier this month? sources tell cnn that u.s. intelligence has picked up some chatter among ukrainian officials, indicating that the ukrainian group may -- may -- we responsible. bianna golodryga has been reporting on this. what do we know about this? >> i was always skeptical with the narrative that this was a false flag russian operation. because it took the kremlin hours -- and i say ours, like, eight hours, if not more -- to announce this and say here is what happened. and so that is not something that is indicative of a false flag. secondly, it wasn't followed up by a major operation. so, when you hear of russia operating a false flag, it is too bomb attack -- that never happened here. so, i was always skeptical as

to that argument. and i thought that you could very well be the ukrainians that were behind this. now, with the ukrainian military proper? no. i am hearing from many sources that it was likely ukrainian intelligence. and this was something to do to rattle the russians, and as intercepts have shown, russians communicating with each other was very skeptical about this, again, coming from them, and we're concerned that this was, indeed, at the hands of the ukrainians. now, weather is a lynskey knew about this or not, i think there is some question about that. and is, obviously, gives them a lot of plausible deniability too. >> do you know what this means for the war the? fact that, possibly, ukrainian special forces were able to make it to the kremlin with a drone? >> it shows how vulnerable the kremlin was. the kremlin took it to the tenth green says this was an assassination attempt against vladimir putin. unless lattimer pond was outside of that moment standing at the poll, this was not. -- and he was not at the kremlin. but it was to send a message

that, as impenetrable as you say, the kremlin is, that is a very symbolic place that is very recognizable. and it was caught on video. >> the symbolism cannot be denied. but could it just be ukrainian intelligence recruiting recruiting anti putin -- we see these incursions into russia near the ukrainian border. we've seen lots of strikes now, either in russian occupied territory, or in russia itself. lots of weird things going on. >> yeah, the ukrainians have been openly recruiting russians, and even russian soldiers, saying, if you want to desert, if you don't want to die, we have systems in place, where you can move here, we can even help find, you help when your family leave russia. i am not sure we are seeing that happening in droves. let's not forget that the majority of ukrainians -- especially the ukrainians that live in the eastern part of the country -- are fluent russian speakers. president zelenskyy has native language towards russian. >> sure.

>> when you hear these people speaking russian, it's easy to say, perhaps they're bringing russians over. but these are native speaking russians, for many of them, that are operating in this. and even, as you said, some of the infiltration that we have seen over the past couple of days on russian territory itself, in belgorod, they are -- in these men, many of them are affiliated with far-right nationalists. so, to get another standing of why i think this is a potentially dangerous move, if it is -- >> is there anti-putin -- >> these are anti-putin nationalists -- these are people who the russians have said our naturalist, and who the ukrainians have said our naturalist as well. what concerns me is that this help seat into the russia narrative that they are fighting not these. because these do happen to be neo-nazi supporters. i'm not saying all of them are. but they are affiliated with it. but it helps feeding into that narrative. >> which has been an ongoing issue for the russians and for the ukrainians all -- along --

do you have a sense of -- i suma that they are not coordinating efforts here. but clearly, the pace of attacks, the length to which they are going, the targets that they are hitting, both in crimea and in russia itself -- it does feel like whatever counter offensive is going to happen may be -- this maybe the beginning stages of it. >> yeah. and my military sources say that the military part of this counteroffensive, this is probably the early stages of this. i'm not sure what role these attacks play into that planning, and i think they are in lies part of their bigger plan, is to this level of confusion in sowing doubt among russians. we do we need to send our troops visit to this border? what else can we expect? can we expect other attacks inside russia? the reason i say that's a dangerous calculation is, you are now seeing russians who are potentially -- who may be indifferent with

regards to this war -- now say, listen, i'm having to dodge bombs, so this is what ukrainians are dealing with on a daily basis -- but of russians are having to do that, then it plays into the propaganda that we are seeing from the kremlin, that, look, they are attacking us. can >> i ask you -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> how is all this playing in russia? what do you regular people -- know about what is going -- >> most people in russia get their news from russian state media. so, this does play -- and you are hearing about this these attacks and seeing the videos. in belgorod, for this specific reason, that these are the neo-nazis that are attacking our people. and on these videos, you see residents condemning and really criticizing their own government for not doing more to protect them. and i think what is interesting that we have seen from putin up until this point is that he has allowed criticism from the far right as to how far to take this operation, this military operation, special military operation they are calling, it now the war -- there is no opposition.

the opposition in the country is dead or in prison. but i am curious to see how far this goes, that they allow criticism or the of -- the way the with the -- >> how important is it from your perspective that the united states and the americans who are watching these new stories come out -- how important is it that the u.s. is still paying attention to this conflict over there? because you are telling me this that, oh, that drone attack might have been part of ukraine forces. that was one thing that -- as someone who has followed it every day, that was a moment that stood out to me and got me, i think, a little bit more engaged. so, is that part of it too? just the strength for ukraine on the international level? >> i think that is something that, again, when i say it is a risk that the cranium intelligence is doing, and i'm not necessarily sure that that is, in the long term, in their interests, to be doing, because,

yes, america's attention is directed at that, and it's causing some chaos internally among russians, as we've intercepted. they don't know who did this. and the ukrainians narrative can be, well, listen, there's some dissent internally in russia. maybe these are russians turning into vladimir putin. i think, obviously, the most important thing for ukraine is to continue to get western support, mainly from the united states. and we have known that this administration has been reluctant against delivering certain weapons and material because they were concerned about this being used inside russia proper. and if we are starting to see more and more of these attacks -- and i don't think it's a coincidence that u.s. intelligence is leaking this out there, saying, we know that it was ukraine. they are not going as far as saying that president zelenskyy knew about this. but they are saying, we know that this was the ukrainians. and by the way, some of these special forces have been using american provided equipment. >> interesting. bianna golodryga, thank you for that update. we were very curious about -- if we would never find out more, and it sounds like it is slowly getting out.

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bye. morant he's currently suspended from grizzlies team activities after a 2nd incident involving him flashing a gun on instagram live in 2 months. so, danny freeman is following the story. tell us what happened -- first of all, if anybody saw those messages, it would be a wellness check. because that message did looked like he was saying something final. >> yeah, and i will speak to some of my friends who are just nba fans. and when we saw these headline start to come out, there was a scary, unsettling moment. and again, all of this cannot be said without establishing the context that morant is an incredible, incredible player. he is a star. he is the next generation when he is on the court. but he has been beaten up a lot over these to instagram live videos where he was seen flashing again. the 2nd one -- moment -- and that is what led to this morning. and we actually have a clip from undisputed, on fox, just one of the many, many people in the sports world, today, who

was discussing these posts. take a listen. >> where is this a cry for help? i don't know for sure. but it felt like it. >> right. >> in the context of what is happening, it certainly could be b. >> normally people don't get on ig and, say bye, mom, bye, dad -- >> and then deleted it. when to your point, i wish you could sit with him. >> so, you can see -- there is just a tremendous amount of -- their's care. there is worry this morning. there was care. and the good news, at least from the shelby county sheriff's office, actually going and having deputies come to his house into a wellness check is that they said he's okay, he's fine. and he is just now taking a break from social media. but again, you can see, there's a lot of concern after he posted those troubling and, as he said, cryptic messages. >> yeah, when i saw those messages, the bye did not seem like a bye from social media.

it seemed like a bye to something more permanent. >> again, love you mom, love you, that, love you to his daughter. 3 of the most important people, you would think, in his life -- for that message you see on the screen right there. so, again, a lot of people have been talking about this. and it has been a tough couple of months for ja morant. because he really, especially after the 2nd incident -- a lot of people really were beating him up for that, saying, you are given another chance. and you blew it. and that was only a week and a half ago. so, to see this after that, a lot of the weight of a lot of professional athletes and retired players come out -- it was challenging to see that today. >> so young. so talented. do we have a sense of -- i mean, the gun videos -- the recklessness is what i -- i mean, he has so much to offer. and why that recklessness? we have a sense of his background and why?

>> listen, a lot of the people who initially came out to defend morant after the first incident said, this is not him. he is not someone who normally does this. this is not -- where he comes from, this is not part of his identity. but then the conversation, especially after the 2nd incident was, you have got to really be conscious about who you are spending time with. there was a lot of language of, your friends are not friends who will let you be on social media waving a gun around. so, it's challenging. and like i said, i think that -- there have been a couple different tone shifts over the course of these past few months with these particular incident. and today, the tone shift, as you just heard in that clip right there was really, folks -- they love to watch him play enough to see him as the next generation of the nba. this week we were talking about lebron james potentially retiring. and this guy could be the next generation of people -- just want him to get help. >> to that point, if you are

someone like me who -- you like sports but you are not following so incrementally, paint is a picture. how big of a star as this? how big of a potential star is this? is this why we are talking about it here? if he really going to be the next lebron or michael jordan? or is it just because it's such an unusual incident and we are worried about mental health in sports athletes more broadly? >> ja morant, 23 years old, he's only been in the nba for -- years. -- he's 2020 rookie of the year. again, you have to see him in action to really appreciated. the guy is not a big guy. he is not shaq. he's not huge. but i promise you, you watch him and he flies over much, much bigger guys than him. -- and he does it with a flare too. he will do 360 jumps and -- not a possible thing that for you to have done. he does it. he has got to deal with nike that is a little bit in flux, potentially, at the moment. a deal with powerade -- he's part of this new younger generation of basketball

players that really, the league, is excited about. and adam silver, the commissioner of the nba, when he was asked by espn about the 2nd incident, that only a couple of days, ago he said he was shocked. because -- and he said he was shocked because he had a conversation with ja about it before. but the first thing he said was, i was worried he was going to hurt himself. or hurt someone else by brandishing a gun. nobody wants that. >> -- thank you. thank you very much for all of that. thank you everyone -- he's a phenomenal player, that's it. >> now i look forward to watching him, now that you told me he flies over the court. >> -- >> it better be, good danny freeman. >> i tell you, it's mind-boggling how good he is. >> i can't wait. thank you very much. next, remembering the queen of rock and roll, tina turner -- michelle turner, no relation -- is going to join us to talk about tina turner's greatest moment. that's next. after advil. feeling better?

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what a voice, what a performer, that was tina turner's private dancer from her hit 1984 album. the queen of rock and roll died today at the age of 83. and it was not just her incredible performances that made her a superstar. it was also her inspiring life story that so many people followed.

she -- first of all, alison, i urge you earlier when you said michelle turner is gonna join us and there's no relation. let me tell you, my entire life i wished i was related to tina turner. i used to make up stories and say i was related to tina turner. because she was just that fabulous. i do have a cousin named tina turner. >> that's awesome. >> we will claim it today because we are giving the queen of rock and roll at her flowers. when you hear the news, you are automatically dejected. but throughout the day, i don't know if you guys were doing, this but throughout all day i went back and i was listening to her music and watching some of my favorite performances from her. and i was watching the 2008 kennedy center honors when she was inducted there and oprah winfrey was inducting her into the kennedy center honors that here. and she said during her speech that tina turner turned her bruises into her battle cry. and i thought that that was so poignant because that was exactly where she was.

last night in las vegas when she decided to take back her life for mike turner -- and for the next eight years she played supper clubs, she played little, you know, crowds. people shoulder she couldn't do it without ike. she said, all i have my name in my talent. but boy will it make something of myself. so her redemption story, her reinventions tory, she became the biggest star in the world during the 80. so i, mean it just goes to show you what kind of a woman she is. i think we can all learn a lesson from her resilience. we can all admire her beauty and her talent. and we can all rich we had legs like tina. right? >> as we can, though those seem actually impossible to capture. but michelle, about her life story, i mean her dog -- in -- that time, that generation. why she made her life out of.

and then she had this challenging, time even after she had left ike, and then in 1984, what turned it around? what allowed her to have this incredibly huge album? while it was her determination, it was her actually wanting to move past what she went through in her life with ike turner. she said so many times during interviews over the years that she didn't even want to talk about that time. she knew that was a chapter in her life. she knew that it was a period in her life. she knew that it helped shape her into the woman she was going to be. but she wanted to leave it there. she wanted to leave. she said at one point, i am tired of singing the blues. i want to sing rock and roll. that is what is in my spirit. that is who i am now. i think it really -- this is the type of music i want to sing, she wasn't accepted in that genre right away. for so many years she was really working his way up, saying disco for a little bit.

she did all kinds of things until she got that hit. she made private dancers, she made that album, we all remember that spotlight on her when she walked out in the gym jacket and her hair was big and her legs were along. and she saying that first note and everybody know geno was back. she was back in a big way. she went on to wow us and so many different ways. we are looking at a video from when she was with ike turner, the egg and turner are view. she was phenomenal. then look at the woman that she is, and she became. she sang about female empowerment. private dancer, what has love got to do with it. who needs a heart when her heart can be broken. that was her mantra, i am going to be the women that i always wanted to be. i don't care what anybody says about it. that is so empowering. >> and michelle, as i was saying in the last hour, she out sexy to mick jagger, okay? >> she taught to make jagger had to stretch. >> i guess she did. >> no bones about it.

she must have. mick jagger's moves, she is better at them. in this 1985 lighted, look at her. she is instill letters. a leather minidress. she is and god knows what, actually. >> she really did teach me jagger haddish throughout. you know, when the rolling stones came to america the i can't tina turner review joined them in concert. joined them on tour. they were the opening act for the rolling stones. and i turner had, i, mean make jagger have always said that he fell in love with tina turner when he saw her early on. saw her presence on the stage. saw how she moved. saw how she strutted. and he took a lot of his influence from her. so, yes she did teach me jagger how to do his thing. believe it. >> that's awesome. i know that you are also -- >> now was just a rumor, or where they ensured for 1 million dollars? >> michelle, were they injured $4 million for life? >> i do not know the definitive answer to that. that has always been the focal. or that has always been the

story. i it wouldn't surprise. me but there has never been a confirmation if that is in fact the case. >> therein lies her power. >> mick jagger has taken some liberties with their million dollar legs right now. >> danny, you have some pride of ownership over this because this is fairly? >> exactly, live aid, 1995. this is philadelphia right here, i mean, this is where it was. london during the day and when philadelphia by night. it is very -- philadelphia choir did a whole spread about this performance today and owner of tina. >> i mean, of course, it was just. -- she is out sexy in him. and it is incredible what a performer she is on every single level. michelle, great to see you. so thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and your memories tonight with us. >> well i love seeing these memories of her, this video, it was a sad day, but looking at, this you can't help but move your shoulders like she did and her little stretch across the stage. her smile. just appreciate the soundtrack

of our lives that she gave to us. and she will always have, like they said, like her family said in the statement today. we will always have her music. and that is your legacy. >> absolutely, that's beautiful. great to see you. see you soon. >> thanks, guys. >> all, right so tomorrow on cnn this, morning forget ozempic, forget injections for weight loss, what about taking a pill? the new development that could change the weight loss industry. thanks so much for tuning in tonight, our coverage continues now. we all need fiber for our digestive health, but less than 10% of us get enough each day. good thing metamucil gummies are an easy way to get prebiotic, plant-based fiber. with the same ount of fiber as 2 cups of broccoli. the easy way to get your daily fiber.

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