her, unbelievable. i can only imagine john fogarty, what he feels like when he hears how she takes it slow first, nice and easy and then takes the song and does it nice and rough. my goodness. we all fell over when we heard that. >> what about you, john? >> absolutely. the first time i heard it on the radio i was just full of joy and pride, i guess you'd say, she had chosen my song. and the fact that it was so different than the way i did it, she turned it into a little movement, a little mini opera, i suppose. and i liked both ways, you know, the slow and the fast. what a concept. incredible record. >> it is amazing. iconic is the -- she truly was. >> thank you for bringing us that view. our viewers didn't experience when what you did. a gift you had that time with her. thank you both.

>> thank you. >> great pleasure to be here. an honor to be speaking about tina this morning. i know john feels the same way. >> thanks, gentlemen. "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> sorry about that. we have got so many people here that i think we are -- we are kind of melting the servers, which is a good sign. >> is it? i don't want to jinx this. we played it on air all three hours this morning -- >> we still have an hour to go. >> look, that is about how ron desantis launched his campaign. good morning. presidential candidate ron desantis pushing the reset button on his presidential campaign. he just announced a new campaign kickoff in iowa after his much hyped launch on twitter with elon musk was derailed by technical difficulties. lawmakers going on recess as time is running out to reach a deal on the debt limit and

prevent an economic disaster. a new warning about what can happen in the days to come. leader and members of oath keepers are about to learn their fates. the judge is about to sentence is them today for their conviction on seditious conspiracy. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. here is where we begin this morning. ron desantis planning a redo after his campaign launch went awry on twitter. watch. >> keeps crashing, huh? >> i think we've got just a massive number of people online. so it's -- the servers are strange somewhat. >> after lots of hype, his live stream announcement with elon musk was full of technical challenges. the audio kept cutting out. the headlines were brutal this morning and the hashtag was

trending last night. >> just a short time ago his campaign announced he will be doing another campaign kickoff. this time in person in des moines, iowa, on tuesday. not on twitter spaces which is where those glitches happened last night in that audio-only event. the day after that he is going to head to new hampshire on thursday and south carolina on friday. >> national correspondent for "the washington post" and abby phillips, cnn political correspondent and the anchor of "inside politics sunday." good morning. >> good morning. >> everyone is talking about the technical glitch. that's a day or two-day story. the real question is, what does this mean for his campaign? what will iowa look like and is the glitch just a one-day thing or is this ominous sign of what's ahead for him? >> that's where i'm at. i think the glitch was predictable. it was bad. i think we can say that. there is no spin that can spin this as breaking the internet. it didn't work.

there wasn't that many people that it should have been broke nl. but what i'm thinking about is what does it say about his campaign and the decision-making processes, how they think about what they need to do in this race and whether they are able to recover from this and learn from it because they are gonna have to do that very, very quickly. they are jumping into a race why they are not -- they are not going up against other candidates who are similarly situated where they are, you know, the other candidates in the race are not all introducing themselves to the public for the first time. they are going after one of the most well known people on the planet, donald trump, who was the president once. and so this is, you know, zero, you know, fail ball here, like you cannot mess this up repeatedly at the beginning. and i think that's what this is about. i have some questions also about whether his message really got through last night and is his campaign thinking about how effective he needs to be at selling himself to the american people at this moment.

>> and to that point, if you -- once you could listen to the announcement last night, the one on twitter spaces first, there wasn't talk about inflation, they were coming about crypto, things that don't rate in the top three things that voters care about, which is unusual for a presidential campaign launch. the idea that he chose to do it on twitter, they wanted this buzz, they are making the argument that they are the competence without the chaos, a shot at trump and he has chaotic start and now they have to do a relaunch on tuesday. that's not a good sign for the start of the campaign. >> that's the point. he is pitching him i am the competent leader, the normal guy, i can do this how president trump can't and then he comes out of the gates with this. yes, it was twitter's fault it didn't work. but everyone has seen what happened with twitter over the course of the past six months and they could have predicted it. yes, the conversation they had was driven by musk and musk's allies about issues that musk cared about and not about what

desantis ought to have been talking about. people should remember this is -- we used to talk about lanes in the republican -- there is two lanes, the trump lane and the not trump lane. ron desantis is leading in the not trump lane but there is only one trump. trump is going to stay in the trump lane. district attorney is sort of coasting behind him there. there is 330 million people who can be the not trump candidate. if you are the guy everyone says this is the fy that can beat trump and that's your launch, that's damaging. >> what he said not just on twitter when the audio worked but also on fox, this radio interview about executive power and article 2 of the constitution. here he was. >> i understand the different leverage points that you would have under article 2 of the constitution. we have a bureaucracy totally out of control. you need to use article 2 power to bring the administrative state to heel. i do that. you also have to be willing to assert the true scope of article

2 powers and i think a lot of our presidents have not been willing to do that. >> what did you make of that? i mean, i guess considering also included in article 2 is, you know, advice and consent of the senate? >> that's what i was gonna say. it's not the first time we have heard repeatedly about article 2. this was something that a lot of trump allies who came in with him who were kind of working on the, quote, unquote, administrative state realized that they needed to figure out how to make the executive more powerful. some of those people are in the district attorney brain trust in terms of how he thinks about the federal government. that's all good and well, but, you know, desantis is running his campaign on something that is really the domain of washington, d.c., think tanks. i think it needs to be translated for real people. then, secondly, he is also a governor who has had the pleasure of governing under pretty much one party control in a state he never had to deal

with an oppositional senate and house and a vast expansive federal bureaucracy. so i think the rhetoric is totally fine. it's not surprising. there is a huge wing of the conservative right-wing that had this is a huge focus. this campaign is going to be fought on the basis of what is important to real people and i think that is gonna -- that's a next-level thing that does not really have a lot of resonance for people live their day-to-day lives. >> he talked about immigration, firing the fbi director on day one. how do you think he handled trump? that's his biggest challenge, obviously. he is the most formidable challenger to trump despite the glitches. he is established from his time as governor. he has a lot of money. and he was making arguments last night taking shots at trump saying i sthi we should debate, making comments like that. >> yeah, i mean, yes, he is still the most formidable opponent 30 donald trump. he was 15 points at the beginning of march and now trump

is up on him 2-1. he needs to reverse that trend. and i don't know how last night is going to do that, particularly because he wasn't particularly forceful in going after trump. cnn had a poll yesterday that said two-thirds of republicans think the election was stolen. can you convince them donald trump a loser, or. like, that's the problem that he has. and to the point about, you know, ron desantis personal -- his persona, if you will, there is nothing about ron desantis particularly that came through last night that's gonna have republicans who really like donald trump sort of the way he is and the way he throws punches, i don't think ron desantis is going to be able to overcome that particularly if he is doing events like last night. >> this is why next week is critical. he has to get out of florida, get opt the ground, and really start engaging. the engagement isn't just about the interpersonal stuff. the headlines at the local level really matter. this week was a missed opportunity. he could have had a raft of

positive headlines out of this, fine. next week is his next opportunity to reset the narrative and it's gonna have to be reset not just in the interpersonal interactions and diners and whatnot, but in how he manages the overall ethos of this first week. is he competent? is it going smoothly? is he, you know, making people feel something? i mean, this is the thing about donald trump. you may not like him, but he makes people feel on the republican side very excited. ron desantis needs to engender that kind of thing if he's gonna beat trump. >> thank you both very much. all right. just over an hour from now, the militia leader steward rhodes is going to be the first of several oath keepers to be sentenced after he was convicted of seditious conspiracy for the role he played on january 6th. prosecutor are asking for a 25 yoorz prison sentence and multiple law enforcement officers in two u.s. capitol

staff members stood before a judge in washington yesterday recounting their terror as a mob breached the capitol on january 6th. cnn's katelyn polantz is tracking this. i think the most significant thing is how these charges differ and what the sentences could look like and how they could be different from other people who have been sentenced and charged with january 6th. >> right. whenever we look back, there are hundreds of capitol riot defendants, many of whom have been sentenced already, many of whom have served their time because many of them received relatively shorte sentences or sentences that didn't require them to go to prison. one person has gotten a sentence over ten years as far as we can tell so far in these cases. these guys, they are different and the justice department says that to the judge. this is the first group of people who are set to be sentenced for that seditious conspiracy charge, that idea that they have been convicted by a jury for wanting to, by force,

block the u.s. government or wage a war. and the justice department doesn't pull any punches whenever they are arguing to the judge already on paper. they do quote somebody who took the stand at their trial and called them a traitor. that is how they start their argument. they say these people are traitors. and then they say that these defendants are unlike any of the hundreds of other defendants sentenced for their roles in the attack. so they are asking for 25 years for stewart rhodes. another man, kelly meggs, an oath keeper being sentenced, the justice department is asking for 21 years for him. that is quite large, quite significant. we will see if the judge ask going to do that. already the judge is looking at that case and spent a lot of time yesterday factoring in a lot of the things, legal and both the personal impact that this case, that these men and what they are convicted of doing, how it affected tpeople and those people who were -- there was testimony from people who were victims. two of them said -- or marathon

po metropolitan police officers said physical scars bruises have healed butmy mental trauma haunts me to this day. another said the violence that the rioters brought to the capitol never ended for many of us. the trauma reached into our homes, personal lives and loved ones. so that is what the judge has heard going into this sentencing today and is something he will be considering as he makes these decisions. >> powerful words from christopher owens and david lazarus there. thank you. also this mornings new u.s. intelligence that it may have been a ukrainian group responsible for that kremlin drone attack that we covered. you can see that happened near the middle of the night. putin was not at the kremlin. they have not reached a definitive conclusion. what does this mean for the future of the war? and here in the u.s. we will go live back to the national mall where you saw jake tapper there with a bipartisan group of lawmakers as they mark memorial

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texas, a battle is escalating between the state's republican attorney general and the republican-controlled house. a rare division between a party. wednesday a house ethics panel heard explosive testimony from investigators detailing what they claimed was years of misconduct by the attorney general, but just a day before that paxton himself was accusing the texas house speaker of being drunk as he was conducting official house business. rosa flores is live in houston with the latest.

this is just -- i am fascinated by this story and to see these divisions emerging and i think the questions that some people would have are those allegations from paxton related to this investigation and the allegations against him? >> reporter: there is so much to unpack here. in a nutshell, this is a window into texas politics, and, yes, there is a lot of inside baseball. and you know that the republicans are in control here in texas, but there are different factions, there are battles for power, and this one is out there for the world to see. a texas-sized brawl between two of the most powerful republicans in the lone star state. texas house speaker dave phelan and texas attorney general ken paxton exploding after this clip went viral. >> is there objections to the amendment? the amendment is adopted. >> reporter: feelin appearing to slur his words last friday

during official house business. the mumbling coming at the end of a 13-hour day, and sparking a slew of tweets by the state's top law enforcement officer. first, calling for his fellow republican to resign for, quote, apparent debilitating intoxication, though presenting no evidence. then asking the house investigations committee to open an inquiry into the speaker for presiding in an, obviously, intoxicated state. again presenting no evidence. democrat house member defending fhelan, saying i had multiple interactions with the speaker throughout the day and night and i can say unequivocally he was not under the influence. >> if it was something else or it was just that he was tired, then definitely it makes ken paxton look like a bully. >> reporter: fighting back, saying mr. paxton's statement today amounts to little more than a last-ditch effort to save face about this.

>> the committee will meet in a public hearing -- >> reporter: the texas house general investigating committee, a panel that looks into corruption with the power to initiate impeachment proceedings, saying, quote, the house is conducting an investigation related to your request for $3.3 million of public money to pay a settlement resolving litigation between your agency and terminated whistleblowers. >> each was fired after reporting general paxton to law enforcement. >> reporter: the public hearing wednesday lasted more than three hours. >> and you said of nearly every single person that your team interviewed is part of this process, that nearly every single person expressed fear and concern about retaliation from ken paxton? >> reporter: the testimony by a group of attorneys stunning. >> that is absolutely accurate. >> thank you. >> reporter: describing paxton's el alleged misconduct related to a

whistleblower lawsuit he settled in february obligating texas taxpayers, not paxton, to pay the $3.3 million settlement as part of the settlement the texas a.g. issued an apology, but that doesn't constitute admission of liability. >> definitely looks like ken paxton trying to deflect his own problems on to the speaker of the house. >> reporter: after the hearing the mudslinging continued. paxton calling the house speaker the "l" word, saying feelin is a liberal. disenfranchising voters. phelan saying the attorney general has abused his powers for personal gain and exhibited blatant disregard for eta aquaridscal and legal propriety expected of the state's leading law enforcement officer.

now, amid these allegations and investigations, including the one by the texas house, which asks the texas attorney general to preserve documents, there is this. take a look at this video. this is a dumpster fire at the texas a.g.'s office happening yesterday. this video first started circulating on twitter. then the texas a.g.'s office also tweeted to from its official account. and we contacted the fire department in austin and they say that they responded. they were there for a few minutes. they are investigating. now there is an open investigation into this dumpster fire, kaitlan and poppy. a lot there. we will continue monitoring, to say the least. >> i mean, a literal dumpster fire. >> yes. >> reporter: words aren't even needed for that. coming up, we will take you live to the national mall this morning a few days ahead of memorial day. jake tapper is with a bipartisan group of lawmakers.

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memorial day is only a few days away and a bipartisan group of lawmakers are gathering right now to honor our veterans. they have come together to hand wash the vietnam veterans memorial that left the names of more than 58,000 lives lost to that war. jake tapper, cnn chief washington correspondent and los angeleser of "the lead" is there with them because you areles there for things that honor our veterans, jake. it's important for you to be there this morning. tell us more. >> i'm here with a bipartisan group, and by bipartisan i mean army and marines. also, republican and democratic congressman mike waltz and seth moulton, florida, massachusetts, and they are tof the large group of people, a few dozen members of congress, all veterans, here humbly skruping the vietnam veterans memorial.

congressman waltz has been spearheading this, the third year you have done it. why was it important to you? >> i think it's incredibly important for two reasons, jake. one, it's good for us as members of congress to come down here to see these 58,000 names and as my first platoon sergeant used to say, get our minds right as a reminder of why we're here. for those of us who are still out on freedom's frontiers, depending on us to do the right things in congress. and number two, this is good for americans to see. this is good for americans to see us coming together, setting our differences aside and appreciating that freedom isn't free. and especially for our vietnam veterans which we still have three in the house of representatives. we learned so much from them about what they went through when veterans weren't appreciated, when people literally wouldn't even put on

their job application that they were a vietnam veteran because the country had, for the first time in history, turned against them. so for all of those reasons, we'll do this every year and ai i'll try to do this every year i am in congress. >> the first thing y'all did was remove the letters and pictures and gifs that people left here, put them to the side so you could wash. when you pick up a picture or a letter, it's just so heartbreaking. >> it's incredibly powerful to be here this morning, to see that every single one of those names is a father, a brother, a sonora daughter, sister. and to appreciate what they gave to america, what they gave to all of us, to a country that at the time didn't even appreciate their sacrifices. and mike's right. it's a reminder of all of the young men and women who are still out there standing on the

ramparts of freedom around the globe counting on us to come together and do the right thing in washington. >> reporter: i know probably too many people to name. if i had to say, who are one or two people you are thinking about this memorial day weekend? >> my uncle greg waltz was a helicopter pilot. he lived. his co-pilot didn't. he is on that wall. you know, i come from a long -- even though i defected and went army, navy and marine corps veterans. you're right. when you see the pictures, how young they were, their friends, their family that, you know, they don't get to enjoy them this memorial day. it's a reminder. and it's a reminder of how controversial this memorial was. the fact that -- it's also a reminder of how great america is. the fact that this memorial was designed by a chinese american woman who was an immigrant and

college student at the time is just incredibly powerful. >> we learned today, i learned anyway from one. >> speakers, this was -- when it was built, there were only three memorials on -- when one of the guys was growing up. and now there are all these war memorials because -- and this was the first one of them. >> yes, we just got approval for the 9/11 war memorial, too. remember all of those who we lost in iraq and afghanistan. it's going to be placed, they just announced the decision to place it between the vietnam veterans memorial and the lincoln millennium. so we will have a prominent place on the national mall for, you know, for all those we lost so recently in our wars and who won't have the opportunity this memorial day to be with their friends and family and build a life back here in america. >> reporter: poppy and kaitlan, it's just a, you know, with all the divisions in washington, all

the anger throughout the country, it is humbling to participate and watch something like this. congressman waltz was nice enough to invite cnn to participate and film this and be a part of it and it's very moving. >> please tell him we appreciate that, to both of them, and jake, to you for always highlighting veterans issues. appreciate it. thank you. >> it is such a rare moment to see a democrat and a republican standing there talking about this and washington is also such a special place to be on memorial day. >> be i know you were saying you miss it this time of year. >> it was something that i didn't fully appreciate until i lived there and, you know, they are there at the vietnam veterans memorial and they talked about having to move. there are so many flowers and cards. but also to go to arlington national cemetery is the most humbling thing you can do. he was talking about how people are. you go to section 60 you see the numbers how young they were, early 20s. it's really special.

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all right. news on the economy. the u.s. economy grew faster in the first years than previously reported increasing 1.3% in q1 up from an estimate of 1.1%.

jobless claims higher than last week's revised numbers. a day before the fed's preferred inflation gauge comes out. the credit ratings agency fitch placed the u.s. on rating watch negative, which is not a good thing. it means the credit rating agency could downgrade the u.s. debt if lawmakers don't agree on a bill that raises the debt limit. sources inside the republican party are warning that they believe as of last night prospects were grim for passing a debt limit increase by june 1 despite negotiators continuing to vow they are making progress on a potential deal. last night on the house floor the republican majority leader steve scalise con kbrachlated his party for passing their version of debt ceiling bill through the house and criticizing the democratic-led senate for failing to do the same. >> the house voted to address the debt ceiling. in fact, on april 26th --

[ crowd booing ] >> the house is not in order. for four weeks, the senate has not taken up action on that bill. the senate's not even in session today or this week. >> scalise, obviously, being booed by democrats in the chamber there. he announced the house is going on recess later today but members will get a 24 hours heads-up if they need to run for a vote should president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy strike a deal. joining us is the republican congressman mike mccaul, texas, the chair of the foreign relations -- house foreign affairs. you said you hoped to get a deal by the end of this week. where do talks stand right now? >> i think we are getting very close. i am the eternal optimist. i know that kevin mccarthy has been meeting with the president one-on-one, but also the staff has been working very hard and i think it's really down to

details at this point. nobody really wants to default on the full faith and credit of the united states. i think, as you pointed out, it would have a disastrous effect on our financial markets. so as i understand it, it could be as early -- a deal could be cut as early as tomorrow and then lawmakers, they'd have to write the bill and then 72 hours we come back, which would be next probably wednesday, is my guess, to vote on a debt ceiling increase along with meaningful spending cuts. >> so if they could reach a deal tomorrow, does ma mean lawmakers should still leave washington today if no deal is made by then? >> well, what they do is typically they have to write the bill, of course. and write it according to the details of the compromise. and then there is a 72-hour period by house rules.

then goes to the rules committee. then it goes to the floor. so i'm just -- again, this is speculative, but i would say midweek next week. so i think lawmakers will probably return monday or tuesday and then possibly vote on wednesday. at least i hope so. i don't think anybody wants to default on this. look, we passed a good bill. we voted to raise the debt ceiling responsibly but we wanted, you know, spending cuts in return for that and that's what's being negotiated right now. >> are republicans prepared to make any new concessions that you're aware of that would get them to a deal by tomorrow with the white house? >> well, as i understand, the president wants to cap spending at 2023 levels. the speaker and republicans want to cap it at 2022. that's not -- that's discretionary non-defense spending. and so that's really where the negotiations lie right now.

also, the covid unspent covid funding, those are really the two big highlights that are being negotiated right now. >> you keep talking about how bad it would be if the u.s. defaults. that seems obvious to everyone. listen to something that former president trump said about the idea of the u.s. defaulting on its debt. >> we have to start paying off debt. but when we have a debt limit and they use that very seriously, they came in, schumer came in with nancy pelosi and they were using it, we'll violate it, do whatever, they talked a whole lot different than now. i say to the republicans out there, if they don't give you massive cuts, you're gonna have to do a default. >> are those comments from the gop frontrunner brreckless? >> well, look, we -- this is my tenth term in congress and we go through this -- i have seen this

movie many times, and we go to the brink. sometimes the government's been shut down. it doesn't favor anybody. you think responsibly, it's not the right move. and, you know, i think it's important that we reach a compromise. i think we will, you know, in this case. you know, we have done this before and the few times we shut down the government it's been very temporary and we have seen the markets respond in a very negative way. so, you know, i think that -- i think what the former president is trying to say is we are at $32 trillion debt right now for the nation. we are handing that down to our children. and we have to start, you know, taking responsibility for that. we can't sustain this path. $32 trillion debt that we are going to pass down is, to me, it really is immoral and irresponsible. >> what he was saying is it was

a different standard when he was in office and he said they shouldn't use the debt limit as a negotiating tactic and he says it's different because he is no longer president. i want to ask, you are the chair of the house foreign affairs committee as i said, you are investigating the exit of afghanistan, withdrawal. you viewed some key documents. have you heard whether or not they are going to share those documents with the rest of the members of your committee yet? if so, are you prepared to pull that contempt resolution you prepared for secretary blinken? >> well, i did have a chance to read the classified cable. very stark, dire warnings from our embassy employees, 23 of them on the ground in kabul a month before it fell. everything they predicted actually happened. and it's unfortunate that the administration didn't listen to what they were saying because they were actually spot on. and i applaud them for taking the courageous step to do a

dissent cable, which is very extraordinary, kaitlan. it's very rare that that's done. and so the way i look at this, i got to read it and so did the ranking member, but, you know, i think the rest of the members. committee pursuant to the subpoena have every right to see this as well. we have a lot of afghan -- afghanistan veterans. you saw two of them with tapper in that piece prior, and you know, the two that share the oversight, one brian, lost his legs in afghanistan, and the other one, jason crow, the democrat, served in afghanistan. i can't really look them in the eye and say, hey, i got to read this thing, but you're not gonna get access. i think the american people should be able to read what their embassy employees were thinking at that time. their state of mind is critical a month prior to the fall of afghanistan. and everything they predicted it in that cable actually happened,

and that is the immediate collapse the taliban taking over, leaving american citizens behind, and our afghanistan partners that we promised we would protect and save them, and yet we left them behind only to be hunted down by taliban. i think it's really incredulous. i'm negotiating with the secretary, to answer your question. i i'd prefer not to go down the contempt road and i don't think he wants to either. he would be the first secretary of state to be held in contempt by congress. >> so no word on whether you are prepared to pull that resolution. one last question. yesterday we saw florida governor ron desantis announce he is running for the republican nomination in 2024. last night he was asked about a key issue that is going to be asked to every republican presidential candidate on ukraine. this what he said. >> if you are elected president, you may be the first one in a while to have worn the uniform. how would you address the

ongoing war in eastern europe between russia and ukraine on day one of a ron desantis presidency? >> well, first, i think what we need to a veteran is recognize our military has become politicized. you talk about gender ideology, you talk about things like global warming that they are somehow concerned. that's not the military i searched in. we need to return our military -- >> he didn't really answer that question. he didn't answer that question. do you believe anyone who is running for your party's nomination for president should be able to articulate their position on ukraine? >> i do. i think they should be honest with the american people where they stand. this is a very important issue. you know where i stand on this. i think we absolutely need to support ukraine. in this fight against russian aggression. when i went to taiwan and i when i was in asia, all the leaders there said whatever happens in

ukraine impacts taiwan. this is a struggle for global balance of power. putin and xi, chairman xi, china, are allies. putin has decided to invade europe, largest invasion since world war ii, and chairman xi is threatening the pacific, the likes of which we haven't seen since my dad's war, world war ii. and so i think an honest discussion is important with any candidate. i do think privately and i have talked to advisors to a lot of these potential nominees, that privately they support what we're doing. but they need to have the moral courage to stand up and speak the truth about what's happening in ukraine. including the war crimes and the atrocities that i get briefed on that are really outrageous and just sickening to be honest. >> yeah. and i should note, trump, who is the frontrunner, also wouldn't say if he wanted ukraine to win or if putin was a war criminal.

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stanley? they went to the deli. tag ugh about two of the most revered trophies in american sports, not about football but the larry o'brien trophy and the stanley cup. both of which have been taken home by some of the biggest names in their leagues. the two trophies have toured new york city in the 2023 finals, both set to get under way in the first week of june. the next stop on their journey, here in studio. here with our own trophy report er-harry enten. i assume the number is two today? >> harry is so excited right now. they're right here. i can touch them. >> you're not supposed to get that close, actually. >> there's a restraining order in place. what's so amazing about this is, if we think about the nba and stanley cup championships, zero

times have they been won by the same city in the same season. that could change this year with the heat and panthers on the nhl side. but the fact that the two of these are in the same place at the same time is truly unique. looking at these things, wondering how heavy are these trophies? the nba, 29 pounds. the nhl, 34.5 pounds. these are quite heavy things. that's why i'm not going to pick them up, i can probably not pick up any trophy more than 10 pounds. and you're wondering who are these guys. larry o'brien was a former nba commissioner and frederick stanley was the one who donated the cup. if you're wondering how exist, 49 of the larry o'brien, only three stanley cup. just one that goes around to the different city, one in the hall of fame and the original. this is not the original. guys? >> which one is heavier?

>> this one. >> the bigger one? >> slightly. this one is slightly heavier. i'm not lifting it, no way, no how. >> i knew all of that, right. >> of course you did. >> thanks, harry. keep an eye on those. >> to see who takes home the stanley cup this year tune in to tnt for the nhl final. until then it's game five of the eastern conference finals tonight. poppy is going to be watching closely. >> all of it. so here, today is ckatelynn's last day on the show. she's not going far 9:00 p.m., primetime. but first, i learned a few things from my desk, auburn must never win, roll tide. nick saban can do no wrong. dress to impress. or if you're a politician or

anyone in power and you think you can pull a fast one on kaitlan collins and dodge her questions, think again. you have been such a big part of the show, you made so much news like the sit down you did with the defense secretary lloyd austin and your coverage from poland surrounding president biden's trip to ukraine. brought your signature style to interviews here at home like with senator rick scott. and we cannot forget the fun moments. a day after low han agreed to pay $75,000 in a fine on top of the one he earned from the company, soldier boy, the s.e.c. also charged jus tin sun with securities fraud, market manipulation -- >> that's kaitlan laughing at

me. >> unable to pronounce the names of celebrities. almost made me not be able to finish that read. >> in all seriousness, the gift of this show for me has been you. thank you for the laughs, the fun, the many star bucks order, mostly the friendships. i was reminded of this article i read from my hometown paper in 2015, it was when fleetwood mack was going back on tour together and stevie knicks said this of her friend christy mcvie, i never want her to ever go out of my life again. it has nothing to do with the music and everything to do with her and i as friends. i feel the same. i'm so proud of you. i can't wait to see you shine in primetime. >> and what picture is in your office? >> them. because you gave it to me like the third week of our show. it will remain in my office. i'm going to still call you every day. >> poppy knows how much i love

to talk on the phone. >> every day. >> we'll be on the same floor, just in a different time zone. i'll be watching you every day because you've done an amazing job here. you're not a colleague, you're my friend. thanks for watching. cnn "news central" starts right after this break. what's considered normal for your cat is interesting. but if your caisn't their quirky self lately, they may have pain from a commocondition called osteoarthritis. now, there's solensia. solensia is a once-monthly injection

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