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a brand new cnn poll finds 60% of americans support stricter gun laws, that number though about the same since the survey taken last summer in the wake of the school shooting in uvalde, texas. 54% of americans say they think stricter gun laws would reduce gun related deaths. and a source familiar with his plans tells cnn the north dakota republican governor set to make an announcement on june 7th. that announcement we are told could be a run for president. cnn previously reporting the governor seriously considering jumping into the 2024 race. hope you have a peaceful weekend. cnn news central starts right now. two members of the far right extremist group are being sentenced for their roles in the january 6th capitol riots one
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group after the group's founder was given the steepest penalty yet among those charged in the insurrection. and stunning revelations from newly unearthed fbi documents revealing a plot to kill queen elizabeth back in the '80s while she was here in the u.s. we are following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central." two more sentences are being handed down today for members of the oath keepers, a far right extremist group for their role in the january 6th capitol attack. one of them is army veteran jessica watkins. she was just sentenced to 8 1/2 years in prison. sentencing for the other member, kenneth hairalson, is happening this very hour. it all comes one day after the group's founder stewart rhodes was hit with the most severe sentence yet tied to the capitol
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insurrection, with the judge describing him as an ongoing threat to democracy, the unrepentant rhodes was sentenced to 18 years in prison. evan, starting with you how does this watkins sentence measure up with what prosecutors were calling for? >> well, the prosecutors were asking for 18 years, but it's very clear that certainly the judge believed that jessica watkins told a story that certainly maybe got a bit of empathy from the judge because of the fact she struggled through a lot, she identifies as a transgender person and served in the military, described how difficult that was for her and really at least in the end said she believed she now realizes what happened that day was wrong and that she should be punished and was willing to accept that
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punishment. prosecutors were not buying it. they're citing some of her communications even from jail where she was making fun of the police officers saying boohoo and saying that they incited the riot by attacking innocent protesters. of course that's not what happened. so the judge, though, did recognize, again, this is a person who has gone through a lot and really called out -- called out her conduct and said, you know, this is somebody who went through all of this -- all of this personal struggle and should have shown more empathy to the people who are working in the capitol that day. >> and yet stewart rhodes, the leader of the coach keepers he got 18 years and prosecutors wanted 25. he didn't actually enter the capitol and that's part of the argument they're making. >> i think this judge is showing
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himself to be a concerned and compassionate judge. federal judges often don't have much experience sentencing people committing violent crimes and he's taking a careful look to distinguish. i'm a little surprised i think rhodes sentence was a bit light given prosecutors were asking for 25 years and given his stern rebuke to rhodes saying you're still a danger. a lot of times with violent criminals part of the point of a long sentence is having them age out so they're less violent when they get out. but with rhodes he's really a leader. it's not he's personally violent. he's inspiring and talking as such and that's the danger. i think the judge appropriately is recognizing the distinction between that kind of a leader, mastermind and these things versus the people who were still more the foot soldiers in varying degrees. >> it's clear, though, the judge points out watkins was not just a foot soldier. she was definitely the leader of this ohio group of oath keepers
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and she was using encrypted communications, giving instructions how to get rid of evidence. again, very proud of what she was doing that day. perhaps now she realizes what she did. >> and shan, you mention a part of the judge's intent to is keep these folks behind bars for long enough so they're not threats when they come out. part it has to do with deterrence, right? >> absolutely. i think probably for the deterrence hopefully some people taken up with this notion and thinking -- they're seeing and realizing it's not just a cosplay fantasy they can do these things and there's accountability for it. there's one of the important points here. even though this charge hasn't been used often, it's sending a message out this is real and people take it seriously and people were hurt. >> i think one of the things is daunting is the whole idea of trying to prevent other people from doing this is the fact you have presidential candidates out there saying publicly they're
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planning to pardon some of these people because they don't view january 6th in the same way. >> and how do you take that message, shan, that former president trump is speaking to people like stewart rhodes as if he's a political prisoner and a martyr? >> i think it's damaging to the country because the people most prone falling into this are the very people folks like trump are speaking to. and that's definitely problematic. >> whil we have you both i want to switch to another federal case. this one actually involving the former president because in the case about his potential mishandling of classified documents, "the washington post" has new reporting on these boxes that were moved the day before the fbi visited mar-a-lago in june, and there allegedly had been a dress rehearsal before trump was even served a subpoena at mar-a-lago by his staff moving boxes around. what's the latest? >> there's a couple really important parts of this.
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one of them is this -- you know, certainly for prosecutors they want evidence of the mishandling of the documents. right, "the washington post" says that there's examples of the former president showing these documents to people. what this case is about from the beginning the justice department has said was willful retention of national security information, the mishandling of that, right? if you're showing it to people who are not clear the former president was no longer president, he had no right to have those documents or had to right to be showing them to people not clear to see those documents. again, we're talking about highly classified things. and the second part is the obstruction part. i think what the dress rehearsal thing "the post" is talking about is just the idea that before the subpoena was issued they were doing these discussions with nara, with the national archives and that whole episode where they were holding back episodes before finally providing some boxes, that that was a dress rehearsal for what
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they ended up doing, again obstructing an investigation. >> shannon, what does this reporting tell you about the case prosecutors are building involving the former president's intent. if we're in a situation where i'm asking you guys to move documents around and before you know it federal agents are showing up, there's probably a reason for that, right? >> exactly. i think it shows jack smith taking a meticulous approach. they're using building blocks here and to show intent you have to show it circumstantially unless they've written out a confession and someone has taken notes of your confession. here they're showing a tight time line very suspicious boxes are being moved. boxes themselves you don't know what's in them. but i totally agree with evan's point the dress rehearsal is very, very damaging for trump and his team there. because, again, that's happening before you know of his request
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and you're anticipating his request. while you're anticipating it must mean you have something and you want to practice ahead of time how you're going to avoid complying. that's problematic. >> the form president has said he's not done anything wrong, he said he's protected under the presidential records act. we'll wait and see what the indictment says if there is one. >> some decision is coming soon. >> there's been less grand jury testimony, and trump's attorneys have reached out for a potential meeting as well. evan and shan, thanks so much. got to leave the conversation there and turn it over to my colleague, jim. overseas now a russian air strike hit a medical clinic in dnipro in ukraine earlier today. the attack killed three people and injured three people. buildings reduced to rubble there. ukraine's president zelenskyy has called it an attack by terrorists. cnn's sam kylie he's in dnipro,
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ukraine, and, sam, i can see you there outside. why do officials say this could have been even worse? >> reporter: well, jim, if you look at the building behind me you can see the utter devastation of the building, so this clearly wasn't one of those rather feeble comparatively speaking drones that iran has been supplying to russia in such vast numbers. this was something a lot bigger. and the reason that the local authorities here used the word miracle for the numbers of people who were not killed here is that there was a change over in shifts between medical staffs, so the numbers were down. one group had left, the other hadn't quite taken up full positions and got to work yet. and as a consequence they believe far fewer people were kill. this was a psychiatric, a mental health outpatient clinic predominantly, and it is according to the world health organization -- get this
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statistic, jim -- nearly 1,000 medical facilities and medical staff incidents, attacks on them by russia in ukraine have been recorded by the health organization over the last year and a bit of this war. if they weren't targeted that would surprise a lot of people because this medical facility is very clearly marked. it is known. it is marked on all google maps, equivalents. it's in a residential area, and we saw, didn't we, in syria when the russians were systematically exposed for their deliberate targeting of medical facilities. and now ukrainian officials like president zelenskyy but also the french government are saying what happened here amounts, jim, to a war crime. >> do we know what kind of munition was used? in other words, would it have
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been a guided munition in other words they would have entered the coaordinates. >> we know because we've been on these types of locations all too frequently that something much, much bigger struck here. in the past dnipro has been targeted with the s300, it can be repurposed to attack civilian targets and does indeed have a guidance system, jim. >> and as you said this has been deliberate both in ukraine and syria. russians have a track record here. joining me now to discuss the convince of all this retired colonel cedric leighton. i called you general last time but i have to stick with your actual rank this time.
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let's start with this attack in dnipro. russia does this all the time and sadly attacked in this case a hospital. so part of a broader plan. do you see the boldness of a strike like this perhaps at all tied to the expectations ukraine is about to launch a major counter offensive? >> i think it's definitely related, jim. and the reason we see these kinds of attacks is two fold. first of all they're responding to a ukrainian offensive, and the other thing going on is this is a deliberate russian strategy that's been in place since the very beginning of this conflict or the space of conflict from february of last year. they are targeting all kinds of civilian infrastructure. they're targeting hospitals, schools, the electric grid, the internet service providers all of those kinds of things in order to make life miserable for the ukrainians, and they're doing a pretty good job of that, unfortunately. >> it's part of the russian war plan to demoralize the civilian
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population and they've been doing it since the start of the invasion. let's talk about these two presumably attacks. also in the last 24 hours we have an attack down here on a ship. in fact, for this one we have video of the aftermath of that attack, quite significant. we've been reporting already about shaping operations as they're known, sharpening up russian defenses, striking command and control, communications weapons, depots, et cetera. do you connect attacks such as these on russian held territory as perhaps connected to ukrainian plans? >> absolutely because these kinds of attacks, which are in many cases very spectacular, they also have the purpose of demoralizing the russians in this case. they have the purpose of in essence telling the russians that the ukrainians are going to be coming somewhere. and they may not know exactly where, but in the case here you
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have a situation where not only is this a major port but the fact is that any type of ship that is attacked with a drone or other means, that, of course, is a big loss for the russians. >> and we saw -- we saw what appeared to bea successful unmanned naval drone attack in the black sea. but this is also key it strikes me because this is the so-called land bridge connectic crimea which russia has controlled since 2014 and the eastern territory. really the main gain for russians since their invasion. certainly a target for ukrainian forces in any counter offensive. >> absolutely. because what they want to do is cut this off. right now the russiansaioyou correctly pointed out, they can move supplies this way and this way back and forth between crimea and the rest of the donbas region. plus they can also move supplies into the areas that they've occupied like this. but as soon as the ukrainians move forward and do potentially cut this land bridge off, this
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could cut crimea off from the rest of russia. and that is a big, big deal. of course there's the bridge that's right about here. that's one the ukrainians have already attacked before. >> but not the same as having multiple avenues to get supply. >> exactly. it's much more limited that way, but that a huge deal. >> still ahead a plot to kill the queen. the fbi unveiling a man's plan to assassinate queen elizabeth during her visit to california in the 1980s, some chilling details straight ahead. plus closer to a deal still in the danger zone. the dow soaring on reports that negotiators are near an agreement to avoid a catastrophic default. we have a live update on where things stand right now. and some experts say it is nearly impossible to tell that to the people aboard this flight after a man somehow opens the plane door midair, the effort to stop him, the injuries onboard, and what we know about the suspect still ahead on "cnn news
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this just into cnn, a judge has temporarily blocked south carolina's new restrictive abortion law. this comes just one day after the governor signed that bill into law, which would ban most abortions after about six weeks. the state supreme court will now review the law to determine whether it violates the state's constitution. for now abortions are legal in the state until about 20 weeks. boris? for the first time we're learning stunning new details about an alleged assassination threat against britain's queen elizabeth. newly released fbi documents reveal a plot to kill the queen during a u.s. visit back in 1983. let's go live to london now for the details with cnn's scott mcclain. scott, what exactly was this
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threat and how seriously was it taken? >> reporter: hey, boris. yeah, this we know from this newly released trove of documents which really illustrate the fbi's vigilance in responding to or keeping tabs on even potential threats posed by groups sympathetic to the irish republican army during the '70s, '80s, and '90s. during that time they were in a three decade campaign to try to terrorize the british population and british government into reunifying northern ireland with the republic of ireland. this document we're talking about is a memo to the fbi director and outlines a potential threat from a patron at a well-known republican bar in san francisco that had some sympathies to the irish republican army. and it says that the man had a daughter who was killed, he said, with a rubber bullet in northern ireland i, quote, claimed he was going to attempt to harm queen elizabeth and would do this either by dropping
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some object off the golden gate bridge onto the royal yacht when it sales underneath or in an attempt when she visited yosemite national park. it's not clear what kind of follow-up up there was either. it's also important to keep in mind this memo was marked priority rather than the more urgent classification of immediate. it's also by the time it gets to the fbi fifth hand information. so the man allegedly launching this plot told the person who called san francisco police, who told another police officer, who told the secret service who then told the fbi. but of course the fears here were not necessarily unfounded on the part of the fbi and royal family, of course in 1979 the queen's cousin was killed when a bomb was planted on his fishing boat and obviously the ira was out to target kp anything associated with the british state. >> a difficult time in history. jim? something else we're
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following closely. pope francis has developed a fever and now canceled his meetings for today, this according to the vatican. you may remember he was briefly hospitalized with a respiratory infection just a few months ago. the health of a 86-year-old pontiff a concern recently. john, i know this is something you watch very closely here. it's always hard to tell how serious each step is. but is there some serious concern right now in the vatican about the pope's health? >> hi, jim. but i think the moment the answer to that question is no. i think the vatican is doing everything it can to try to minimize the significance of this. as you say the vatican has announced that today the pope canceled his meetings because he has a fever, but they have also added that that was because he had an extremely busy day yesterday. he had eight separate meetings in the morning and early afternoon. then in the late afternoon he took part in a youth rally sponsored by an educational foundation that he launched when he was the cardinal of buenos
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aires and he was wiped out. a mass he was supposed to celebrate on sunday and a meeting on monday, that those were all confirmed. so what they're saying is that right now the pope is having some difficulty but is fundamentally good to go. now, of course we're talking about a man who spent four days at rome's hospital in march with a severe bout of bronchitis, who had much of his colon removed a couple of years ago and who suffers from sciatica. obviously even if this in itself is not that serious, one cannot help but be concerned, jim. >> and perhaps a cannoli we just showed a picture of there can be enough to cure it.
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so congress is taking the memorial day weekend off even though there is no budget deal yet. still members are being urged to at least keep an eye on washington. if a deal is made on the debt ceiling they'll be given 24 hours notice to return for a capitol vote. j just six days remain. it could trigger a recession here at home, economic turmoil abroad. the markets agree on that. cnn's manu raju joins us now with the latest on that. manu, i want to say there are glimmers of hope because every once in a while someone will come out of a room somewhere and say we made some progress, and you'll hear we're still far apart. reality check, what's happening? >> i just spoke to patrick mchenry, one of the top negotiators who came out of the speaker's office and told me a deal could either quickly come
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together or totally fall apart really on the brinks. some key decisions need to be made here, and sticking points still remain namely over the issue of work requirements for social safety net programs. that's something republicans have pushed for programs like food stamps, temporary assistance programs for needy families. democrats have resisted that. they've been going back and forth about that issue, exactly how to deal with spending cuts, a cut below this year's level in federal spending. democrats and republicans have been negotiating on that issue for some time. and there's policy issues too such as the easing of construction projects and overhauling the permitting process to make it go forward. and there's also talk of extending the debt ceiling through the 2024 election so this congress doesn't have to deal with it again. that has prompted push back from conservatives who want this to go from one year so they can fight this again next year. kevin mccarthy was asked about the growing number of concerns from hard right conservatives
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and he indicated a deal wasn't done yet. >> you're talking to people who don't know what's in the deal, so i'm not concerned about anybody making any comments right now about what they think is in or not in. whenever we come to an agreement we'll make sure we will first brief our entire conference. >> there is forward progress, but each time there's forward progress the issues that remain become more difficult and more challenging. so that is step by step, small step by small step. and at some point this thing can come together or go the other way. >> reporter: the time line here is so significant because janet yellen, the treasury secretary, has warned the national debt limit of $41.4 trillion must be raised by early june or we could see that early default default as early as june 1st. it will take time to draft the
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text after a deal is reached, a couple for that, three more days to review it and then move to the senate which could take up to a week. and we're hearing concerns from both sides of the aisle can they get the votes if they get there. so step one is getting there. >> so i wonder we're watching the market go up 300 points because the market perceives progress here. is the market getting it wrong from what you're hearing out there in the halls of congress? >> well, the market is expecting it because we have seen these fights go all way to the brink and deals being reached in the last moment. both sides recognize the stakes here, which is perhaps why they believe ultimately they'll get a deal. can they get it done quickly and can they get the votes to get it out of congress? >> all right, you'll let us know. boris, over to you. a california man has been freed from prison after serving 33 years for a crime prosecutors
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after another defendant eventually told officials soldana was not at the scene. here he is. >> i knew one day this was going to come. i'm just so grateful. i just thank god, jesus. >> also some sad news to report. a source tells cnn that celine dion will likely never tour again as she continues to battle a rare neurological disorder. the grammy winner canceled her 2023 world tour earlier today. last year dion announced she'd been diagnosed with stiff person syndrome, a condition she says does not allow her to sing the way she's used to. and it was a big surprise for graduating seniors at the university of massachusetts boston as diplomas were handed out yesterday the commencement speaker rob hail announced he was gaving each graduate $1,000, two envelopes to each person. the first envelope had a gift to
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each student, a celebration of all they did to get to this day. the second $500 envelope he said was for the students to give to someone else, an organization or cause who could use it more than them. >> artificial intelligence made a new promising discovery in the world of medicine. researchers using a.i. uncovered a brand new antibiotic which they say can kill a drug resistant super bug known for illnesses such as pneumonia and meningitis. we hear a lot about the dangers of a.i., fears, et cetera, here's a case where a.i. seems to have made a difference. tell us how this happened. >> yes, it is really being used for good. jim, when you're developing antibiotics, it's a long and tedious process. bacteria are getting smarter than us and they're learning how to basically outsmart the drugs we have.
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conventionally sort of pre-a.i. if you wanted to test out a bunch of different drugs to see if they might work you could do a million in months to years. it would take you months to years. with a.i. you could do 100 million in just a matter of days, so that's what canadian and u.s. researchers did is they tested out a bunch. they found one that worked on human tissue that was brought into the lab where infected tissue that was brought into the lab. and on real life mice they gave them a wound and put this bacteria in there and it work. the question is when will this be on the market, and i will tell you it's going be years. this is very exciting day if you're a mouse, but for people they still have so much more research to do. >> tell us the importance of a discovery in this particular area because meningitis and pneumonia have been around for ages but suddenly they still take lives today and anti-body resistance is an increasing
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issue. >> absolutely. when you get infected with this particular bacteria and this particular strain of bacteria mostly affects people who are in the hospital, you have a 1 in 4 chance of dying within a month. that's not good a month from your diagnosis, that is not good. that means we do not have the drugs to fight this. as a matter of fact, the world health organization setout to make their most wanted list, their priority pathogen list, this was number one critical on their list that we need to find antibiotics to fight it. >> you mention how this is done traditional, right, with mice and then you work your way up to human trials. but are you saying here with a.i. you can take that out of the equation, right? you move towards a space where you don't need the lab -- the lab animals, in effect. >> no, you do still need the lab animals, but think about it this way. computers are smarter. in many ways computers are smarter than we are. for example, last year i went to
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an m.i.t. ai lab in massachusetts and they showed me how a computer is better at looking at mammograms in many ways than a human eye. can look through so much more quickly than a human can. a.i. helps things move along faster. >> understood. listen, so many areas to be exploited here hopefully for benefit. boris. so shark attacks are extremely rare, but a series of incidents recently have officials coming out with a new warning for beach goers this memorial day weekend. but first who else thought this only happened on movies? a plane in flight, video showing the terrifying moment someone onboard opens an emergency door. this story is next on "cnn news central."
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all right, this frightening midair scare is now under investigation in south korea. just look at that. this after a flight was forced to land after someone managed to open an emergency exit door. you can see how people -- listen, i mean the force of the wind there. they had to hold onto their seat white-knuckled, the wind in their faces. listen to how loud it was inside
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that airbus 321 as it descended. it was about two to three minutes of this before landing. got to be scary. an airline official says this man seen over here as passengers held onto him is the one who allegedly opened the door. we're going to show that picture in just a moment. you can see the one of the passengers who did not want to be identified spoke about the harrowing flight. >> translator: he must have been trying to get off. suddenly, he tried to get off and the crew went, help, help, so about ten passengers went and pulled him back. the exit at the farthest back was open and we flew with that open for three to five minutes, and then landed. the children were so shocked. yes, they were so shocked.
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i was sitting at the far back so i didn't know, but when i got off, the kids expressed dizziness. >> here is that picture now. you can see other passengers managing to pin this person down, who the airline says was responsible. tom, identify flown a lot, as you have. i always thought there were multiple steps for someone to be able to open a door midflight to prevent exactly something like this. do you have any sense of how this was able to happen? >> it's supposed to be impossible. and i will tell you why it's supposed to be impossible. passenger jet will fly between 30,000 and 40,000 feet, normally somewhere up in there. the air pressure up there, these planes are designed so the pressure inside the cabin to keep you comfortable is pushing against these doors like the stopper in a drain. they're actually pushing them harder into the opening so they can't come out. so much so that experts say if you could grab that door, if you actually could pull it in, it would be like lifting a ka are. >> wow. >> it's supposed to be
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impossible. and they're locked. let's talk about this plane, because that will be the difference. a lot of planes have different designs. this plane, look at the altitude and speed of this plane. this thing was still moving along pretty good when all of this happened, but it came down to about 700 feet. there you don't really have a pressure issue and you've already started equalizing the cabin in a way that maybe there is no real pressure on the door. estimated speed, 170, 200 miles an hour. something like that. still there will be a question, mechanical issues or something that allowed it to happen. >> you're saying to be able to do this likely at 700 feet or possible, but not at 37,000 feet. >> exactly. >> given pressure and other -- >> exactly. if the door were mechanically unlocked, but they are unlocked. the question is, how did it become unlocked anyway. >> that's still pretty darn dangerous at 700 feet and what the passengers had to go through. you would assume there are other failsafes to prevent this happening even at that altitude.
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>> it's happened -- it's happened many times before. people have tried to open the plane doors, with no exceptions i can think of they don't succeed because of all these other reasons. >> do we know anything about the suspect sm. >> authorities took him into custody and they said they weren't able to question this man because they said he was in a bad mental state. he could barely sit up. more questions for the airline to say, how was it possible, no matter the motivation. >> that very same question. tom foreman, thanks for walking us through. from a scare in the air to one in the waves. an american woman remains in serious condition after surviving a violent shark attack in tushgz a turks and caicos. the shark bit her leg off. the chances of being bitten by a shark are astronomically low, officials around the country are taking extra precautions this holiday weekend. let's go to rockaway with miguel
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martinez. are folks there on high alert? >> reporter: not so high alert. they're having a great day at the beach because it's sunny and beautiful but they are aware. we talked to several surfers. one thinks they had a shark sighting this morning, a thrasher shark about six feet long. another guy said a shark approached him last year. i mean, this -- you wouldn't know you're in new york. the guy air guitaring his surfboard and people just surfing and having a great time. look, the turks and caicos incident, this was a snorkeling just beyond the reef there. there was also an incident in southern new jersey where a teenager was surfing and got bit in the foot by what they belief was a shark. in fort pierce, florida, there was a woman sitting in shallow water next to the shore and a shark bit her there. everybody has survived. the woman in the turks and caicos is particularly lucky because there was a tour boat
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nearby that was able to jump into emergency mode and get her to help as quickly as possible. here in new york state, the governor is adding more drones around beaches and water craft to watch out for sharks to ensure that it is a shark-free summer. at least a shark bite free summer here in the new york area. people very respectful, though. reminded that this is sharks' backyard and frontyard and to treat it with respect. >> it is their natural habitat. that's where they should be. sharks in the ocean is the sign of a healthy ocean. if you squint hard enough, rockaway beach looks like southern california. glad you got that assignment. >> reporter: it's not just cali that has the beaches. new york, too. >> jim? >> the indiana doctor who made headlines after she revealed she performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape victim is now facing consequences from the state's medical board. we'll have new details just
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