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that the starting gun for summer is sound on memorial day weekend. getting bit by a shark or attacked is extremely rare. officials here in new york say there's a couple ways to protect yourself. if you see seals or schools of fish, birds going in the water, stay away. you do not want to get mistaken for a shark meal. wolf? >> miguel marquez, thank you. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." i want everyone to have a safe holiday weekend. memorial day remembers americans died while serving this country. we remember them and thank them for their sacrifice. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. bold move on the battlefield. ukraine accused of striking a vital hub for putin's military.
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russia resorts to pictures of rubble to convince the public to get behind the war. the treasury department warning it has $39 billion left in cash as of tonight. yellen moves the dead ceiling deadline. an update to a story we told you about. $2 million and jail time after a chinese comedian made a comment about the communist party. wait until you see tonight. let's go "out front." good evening. an aggressive strike. new video tshowing thick smoke what is believed to be a steel plant in mariupol. ukraine hit the city with two missiles. this is tactical but hugely symbolic in terms of a strike. this is where ukrainian troops were in the deadly standoff for russian forces for weeks last year.
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mariupol is even important staging ground for russian forces in southern ukraine. it's crucial. there's a flow of russian military convoys. a ukrainian strike changes the game. in russia, staid imte media is something new. i want to show you the drone video. this is from bakhmut. it is what bakhmut is. you watch every night. you know that this is a hell zone. in russia, to show this destruction is quite a different propaganda tape. h they are showing this. utter destruction. the reason this is different is you remember what we saw in mariupol. putin was there in march to tout victory. look at this. the buildings and what they put out, intact, lights on, people
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living in apartments. russia rebuild and dressed up buildings in that area so it would look like this was victory. it was a happy, normal city. people liberated, living their lives. that was propaganda. it was a lie. this is the reality of what happened in mariupol. there was destruction there. the question is, why are russians now being shown ba bakhmut? it is unclear. that drone footage is airing as the nuclear saber rattling is getting louder. putin has no choice but to use 'nique nukes in order to get president biden to take the threat seriously. >> translator: he said russia won't do anything. >> translator: that's true. >> translator: they have doubt that we will do anything. so we need to smash them with nukes. then watch the doubt disappear
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from their faces. >> the former russian president levelled another nuclear threat. he said, quote, in case the west provides ukraine with a nuclear weapon, we will have to make a pre-emptive strike. you notice, the more advanced the weapon ry and nuclear apocalypse. as for ukraine, they are taking a direct route to putin. >> translator: don't overestimate putin. this is a man with a low level of intelligence, a man who everyone overestimated and made wrong conclusions about his ability to analyze what's happening. this is unfortunately one of the reasons why we have a war today.
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putin's sacredness has been destroyed. they have no respect for putin. >> low intelligence. we will talk about that. fred pleitgen doing that interview live in kyiv. fred, what is the latest there? >> reporter: there was massive strikes that took place that killed people and also wounded people as well. tonight, the ukrainians are saying that they believe the missiles for those strikes that were used in those strikes were s-300 or s-400 that are used to shoot down aircraft. they can cause massive carnage, especially when used in urban areas. that's what happened. the horrifying aftermath of another russian air strike. a medical facility hit, killing
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two and wounding scores. moscow launched another round of drone and missile strikes at targets across ukraine. kyiv says this time they managed to take down all the cruise missiles and nearly all the iranian-supplied drones. cnn got rare access to a key xoe n -- component of ukraine's air defense. time is essential he tells me. we need to destroy the targets. the computer system makes it as easy as possible. ukrainian forces gave us this video they show them destroys drones. this one shooting down a cruise missile last year. >> yes. >> reporter: it's part of ukraine's effective,
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western-supplied layered short, medium and long-range air defense, that washington and kyiv have managed to take down hypersonic missiles that can travel ten times the speed of sound and which putin claimed were invincible. the commander of ukraine's joint forces tells me systems supplied by the u.s. and its allies are making the difference. we have the means to fight cruise missiles. the percentage is constantly increasing. now the efficiency is over 80%. as ukraine's army gears up forct will be crucial. air defense is critical to their counteroffensive. to defend advancing forces.
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the enemy will throw all available forces to reduce the combat potential of our offensive the general tells me. the success during the liberation will depend on high quality air defense. once again, so many have been harmed. a horrifying attack that happened there. ak there were search and rescue crews working into the night trying to save lives. as the night moved on, trying to clear up debris. one of the things we learned is that the mayor says it could have been been worse. it is almost a miracle the missiles strike as there was a shift change going on in the hospital. he fears a lot more people could have been killed and wounded. >> thank you very much from kyiv tonight. i want to go to retired army
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major general sparks. the new video of the strike in mariupol. it's a staging ground for russian forces. it has been under their control. they haven't been striking it. two long range missiles struck today. this comes on top of yesterday. russian officials said ukrainian forces struck with a missile. we are see this longer range missiles deep into russian controlled territory. what is ukraine doing by doing it here and then over here and then over here? >> it's a combination of desired affects. what the ukrainians are trying to do is determine where the russians are going to respond and where they think they are strongest. they are looking for a
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vulnerability in the russian defenses. as they have, the russians, have arrayed their forces. you attack in different locations. you see how the enemy responds. as a result of that, they may, in fact, maneuver forces to reinforce a particular area. as a result of that, that gives good intelligence to the attacking forces. ukraine is really doing -- this is -- it's intelligence by fire. they are using this as an opportunity to try to increase their understanding of what the enemy is trying to achieve and exploit that. >> let me play on the heels of that some more of what the ukrainian presidential advisor told fred earlier today. here it is. >> translator: don't overestimate putin. this is a man with a low level of intelligence. >> i'm curious what you think of that. there are many who say, this is a person playing chess when
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everyone else is playing checkers. it gets that attached to him. you have spent years closely analyzing him. what do you think, low level of intelligence, is that fair? >> well, i think the point that we should not overestimate putin is valid. he is certainly someone who can make mistakes. he made a quite serious mistake in launching this invasion and expecting a rapid victory. that clearly didn't happen. he has found himself in a war that was for more difficult than he anticipated. i think at the same time, we need to make sure we don't underestimate putin. he has adjusted since the ini initial face went poorly. he is hoping to grind down ukraine's resources, to use up its stocks of munitions and exhaust the west's political
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patience with this war. right now, i think putin thinks he is winning, that this strategy is working over time. we need to be careful about underestimating him. he is clearly not shunomeone wh has a low level of intelligence. the danger is he has in the presidency for so long 57band i deeply familiar with a wide range of issues that he is not receptive to advice from his advisors, from people who might force him to examining some of his assumptions. that's been a problem in this war. >> we had missile strikes on ukraine. fred talking about the one overnight which hit the medical facility. two killed, many wounded, dozens. you are getting missiles into ukraine. if not nightly, close to it. you don't know where they are going to hit. obviously, fred saying
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ukrainians tell him that for the counteroffensive to succeed, they need air defense. do they have it? sometimes we get the numbers. 32 missiles and 31 intercepted. then one of the patriot systems was damaged. do they have the air defense they need? >> you never can have enough air defense. you really want to protect that third dimension. when you conduct offensive operations and try to achieve operational success, which means tieing tactical victories together in a specific area. you have to have the ability to maneuver above you and to protect that area as well. you never can have enough. what they have is essentially what they have. in other words, if you are going to assume a level of risk and the execution of this offensive or counteroffensive, however you want to label it, it's essential you realize what you have and what you don't have. you may have to take risk in the third dimension more so than you
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would take risk in the 2k3wground offe offensive. >> the russian state propaganda, we see what he has to say. it's not new. what i thought was interesting was the level of frustration. they don't take us seriously, so we need to do this. ed me -- he mentioned escalating military aid. should this be dismissed because it has been bluster? do you think that's a mistake? >> i think it's a mistake. the russians believe the united states lost its fear of nuclear war. part of the reason for to do this is to restore that fear of nuclear weapons. the real danger would be if we put the russians in a position where they have to choose
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between using nuclear weapons and utter humiliation. not at our interest to put them in that position. that's could prove disastrous. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time on this friday. >> thank you. >> thanks. trump cozying up to the saudis as his ties to saudi arabia are under scrutiny in the doj's investigation into classified documents. ron desantis' mixed messages on trump. first he attacks, then he ignored. what is the strategy? a passenger opened a plane's emergency door while the plane was in the air. reremember the things you loved before asthma gogot in the way? fasenra is an add-on treatment for asthma driven
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emerged that the investigation is near a conclusion. our legal expert ryan goodman. the context of this, right now, trump is flaunting his saudi ties, not at all fleeing from them. >> reporter: that's right. it does seem to be an appendage or arm of the special counsel's investigation, given that there is a known subpoena to the trump organization and the like to get under the business dealings between him and the saudis, which sounds like they are at least exploriing a potential connection between the former president holding on to the documents and whether he would have any interest related to his dealings withed the saudis. >> they are reporting on a a sealed memo. it's why evan corcoran should
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not be protected in the classified documents appropriate. they cited instances of possible of cour obstruction. other evidence demonstrates the president sought to retain classified documents and knew it. there it is in black and white. it appears extremely significant to see this. is it? >> very, very significant. hard to exaggerate how significant it is. to explain the significance of it, that is the language of the espionage act. we have it coming from a federal district court judge, which means the government has -- the special counsel's office presented evidence to her that's part of their theory of the case. anybody thinking of this as just an obstruction case, it doesn't sound that way. it sounds like part of the theory is the espionage act and the judge found there was evidence of that crime to be able to pierce attorney/client
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pri privilege. >> the obstruction case appears to be black and white. what else is put on top of it? the special counsel obviously looking into why trump kept the documents, what he did with the documents, his motive. that's whether there was espionage. do you think the special counsel will get and present answers to those yeses? >> i think so. i think there's a lot of evidence -- the same evidence in a certain sense that goes to the question of obstruction. was he holding on to the documents which the national archives was trying to acquire them? willfully containing this and not turning them over. the evidence fits that. i have every expectation, on the
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tonight, ron desantis sitting down with another friendly conservative media outlet slamming former president donald trump saying he is soft on crime and weak on illegal immigration. >> 2 million ali aliens. he has allowed dangerous persons out of of prison who have r reoffended. >> mark caputo, he has covered desantis.
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ashley alison, director for the biden/harris republican campaign. doug high. mark, he attacked trump. that's explicit. uses is his name. then gives a speech today and does not mention trump's name one. you have done so much reporting. what's going on with the mixed messages? do they know what lane they want to be in? they will tell you is that he will take on trump in certain circumstances on certain issues. if he is doing an interview, he will take him on and answer the question directly. the desantis campaign argues this isn't a contradiction. the message is about what he wants to do. in trump's view, it's foolhardy to attack him as being weak on crime or immigration. ron desantis in 2018 ran for
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governor and had an ad where he was telling his children build the wall. that comes up. the trump folks will tell you the first step act, desantis voted to. now congress has different bills. there's different ways to explain how he voted then. by and large, they are looking at this as desantis isn't ready to give a full vision. he is attacking at places that are his strong spots. >> doug, it's interesting. i think mark's history of desantis supporting that bill is very interesting. what we just heard was desantis making, in the clip i showed, a clear policy distension between himself and trump. there aren't a lot of those. in lockstep for a long time. that's the question. can desantis succeed at making, in this one case, build the wall
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trump and brand him as an amnesty guy? >> what he is doing is taking donald trump on on substance. donald trump was not policies propos proposals. that along with so much he did and said was an attitude. it wasn't a policy platform. the rnc didn't have a policy platform under donald trump. desantis will try to go to the right. we are seeing that with covid. if you want to get this nomination, it doesn't go around donald trump. you have to take him on directly. >> doug, you think -- go to the right, where is to the right? >> i think it starts with some of the things he has been laying out, especially on covid. we said donald trump was great for the first three years until fauci took over. fauci didn't take over. but that's rhetoric the republican party will like. donald trump is not a traditional conservative.
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he never has been. now he doesn't talk so much about being a republican. there are tuopportunities there. it requires you taking donald trump on directly. >> ashley, despite the campaign launch, which was -- it was not great. let's be honest. it was not good. desantis can say, numbers are what talk. it's not the number of minutes it was messed up. double the amount of money trump raised, after his indictment. $2 million more than what biden raised when he announced. does money talk? does this prove desantis is the contender to take this from trump? >> money talks in politics. i think comparing desantis' numbers to a pre-covid, pre-george employed, pre-january
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6 announcement for joe biden isn't a fair comparison. i do think looking at donald trump's numbers and desantis' numbers, it's an important comparison in this primary. i'm not surprised desantis has done well in fund-raising. he has a bundle of riches, because he has done so well with fund-raising. it's significant. the left of the trump on immigration -- trump was the person who separated families and had babies crying because they weren't with families and didn't have a plan to reunite them. that's a scary position across the board we don't want to find ourselves in. he is a strong contender. >> mark, what is desantis' world telling you about these fund-raising numbers? what's going into them? who are these people?
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>> they are not telling everybody about the fund-raising numbers. nbc had first written the story. the executive office of the governor, his staff have been texting lobbyists and telling them, you should contribute. they feel as if he this are being squeezed. other lobbyists say, the code is to shut up and contribute. some of them wonder, look, why are we being strong armed to contribute. he will do what he wants to do. they have to give the money. even if they give it, their projects might get vetoed. a $100 million budget is yet to be delivered to desantis. this weekend, there was a group of desantis fund-raisers, many lobby i
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lobbyists, trying to raise money that went into the $8.3 million fund-raising haul. >> obviously, he has to talk to donors. it's a spotty record. i have talked to some who have been frustrating. we will see whether that changes. in ter terms of exposure, conservative radio, fox news. do you think that that needs to change? if you are going to go to the right of donald trump, that's where you have to stay. >> i think it's a mistake for politicians and their staff to mistake and outlet for the audience. people watch every network, whether conservative or liberal. we put ourselves in silos arti artificially. what i i would say is, we see
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republicans, and ones who try to be more of a celebrity than anything else, talk really tough when it comes to media. look how strong i am, but i'm scared dana bash is not the strongest posture you could have. >> let me go through something for biden. warning signs. 60% of democrats list him as their first choice for the nomination. rfk junior has 20%. that's stead by for a couple months. dig it down. near a fifth of people of color won't support biden. a fifth of white non-college graduates say the same. how concerns is this? >> it's early. polls it snapshots. spliem sometimes people treat it as though it's different than real life. right now, what the biden
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campaign needs to do is go out and talk to the constituencies that are going to be important to his coalition. particularly african mamerican voters. in one in five don't support joe biden, you may not get to five out of five by november 2024. you try to work to get to three out of five or four out of five of that's how you build a winning coalition. they shouldn't ignore it. it's not time to go into panic mode. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. next, china escalating its war on comedy after a joke about the military got shows canceled, jokes sensors. comedians are answering to the communist party. it's incredible what's happening there. we have an inside report. how much is ai driving your pension, your 401(k) up and down? that's next. than j aster
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shows across china are getting canceled now. the government is reportedly asking performers to submit scripts for vetting and approval. will ripley is "out front." >> reporter: with a flashy open, live audience and opening monologue, this comedy show almost looks like late night tv in the u.s. until you turn up the volume. >> translator: the spirit of xi's speech, the country is the people. >> reporter: the jokes are propaganda. punctuated by silly sound affects. parroted back by a studio audience that almost resembles after school detention. china exercises very tight control over comedy shows.
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this man was doing a skit about straight dogs chasing a squirrel. he said they reminded him of eight words. that joke, and those eight words, landed him in the dog house. a 2021 law bans insults on the chinese military. he is under investigation, suspended and a massive $2 million fine on his former employer. all that after he posted a public apology. promising to deeply reflect and re-educate himself. he joins a list of comedians canceled in china for jokes that runauthorities. some made outside the country.
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in february, a comedian joked about not being able to go home after he told jokes critical of chinese communist party on his canadian tour. his name erased from most chinese social media. the rules more relaxed for medians in hong kong. in the chinese territory, you won't go to jail for jokes like this. at least not yet. >> china and taiwan, like this girl, and she rejected me. i told everyone she's my girlfriend. >> comedians say self-secensorsp is sighlencing jokes. >> comedy for some is a form of rebellion.
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there's now less way to rebel. >> we are playing to a difsferet audience. >> reporter: across the pacific, the contrast is clear. >> we have an 80-year-old man begging us for four more years of work. begging, begging. >> reporter: chinese may not be allowed to mock their own leader, but just in like america, mocking the u.s. president is fair game. somebody made a joke like that in china about xi, they would disappear at not reappear for a long time. china is losing influence in the west. what they are trying to do is tightening their grip on power at home. crack down on interester --
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entertainment. performers are facing this. >> incredible. thank you for following this. this is stunning. will ripley, thanks very much. next, a new dead ceiling deadline. lawmakers give p more time to make a deal on america's debt. the spending is $17 billion a day. $17 billion a day. a passenger opens the emergency door while in the air.
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this is a next level bed, for a next level you. my circadian rhythm is kicking your circadian rhythm's butt! so, it is a competition. save 50% on the sleep number limited edition smart bed. plus, special financing ou add any base. only at sleep number. tonight, a new debt ceiling deadline. yellen saying the u.s. will d default on june 5. biden sounded a note of op optimism. despite garrett graves shutting the door. >> it's crazy we are having this
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debate. >> are you willing to drop that. >> not a chance. >> the editor and chief on a influential newsletter. the u.s. spends $17 billion a day. only brings in $13 billion. you have a problem. how dire how dire is this situation? >> that's like you or i having $100 in our account, and they're burning on average $4 billion a day, maybe more, depending how the day swings. we spent $1.4 billion a day just in interest expense on the u.s.
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debt. needless to say, it is becoming very crucial that we raise the debt ceiling immediately. and the extraordinary measures the treasury has taken are now being exhausted. if we can make it to june 15th, that would be big because that would allow to push the default timeline back a little bit. >> you get money coming in. >> you get tax payments, you get quote, unquote measures that will add another $140 billion in june. but you're kind of just kicking the can down the road. >> if that were to happen and you have more time -- given these guys in washington more time is not necessarily a good time, obviously. now you've got janet yellen saying june 5th. repeatedly it had been june 1st. so, it's about june 1st. we understand the situation is dire, but from the public's perspective, june 1st, june 5th, now we can get to june 15th. does this create the perception of crying wolf? >> that's the worry.
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the june 1st deadline started out, it was a while ago they said june 1st. it was like june 1st, we need a deal done. now we're getting down to granular, technical details as to how the treasury's balances are changing. if that keeps changing, it loses its effect. but i also think that june 5th, june 1st, it doesn't really matter. we need to reach a deal here. >> it doesn't mean that, okay, it's not a problem and we're just pretending it's a problem. i think that's the distinction you're drawing. this is a picture from earlier this week. it's an explosion at the pentagon. it was not real, right? it was an ai-generated image. it was shared widely on russian media. the markets fell $500 billion, half a trillion dollars was lost in minutes because of a bogus image. we can only imagine where that comes -- you talked about that today. you talked about the s&p's gains this year. you're saying a lot of it is due to ai, these big companies,
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amazon, meta, nvidia, which i know is one of the ones you hold in your newsletter. so, you're telling me that ai is driving this massive, massive companies like this? i'm not saying ai isn't here to say. of course it is. but are we to a point that ai is like the next crypto? >> that's a great question. we've been very vocal about ai for the last few months now. you're seeing over a thousand mentions of ai in earnings calls in the second quarter alone, that's up over a quarter percent from the previous quarter, up over 100% year over year. there's seven stocks that are accounting for almost all the s&p's gains this year. the s&p is up 10%. if you take those seven out and call it the s&p 493, that index is flat. those seven stocks in one index is up 44% this year. so, ai is huge right now. there's, you know, you alluded
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to, is this a bubble, is this a fad, or is this the next big thing? it could be both. it doesn't really matter if it's driving markets right now. and that's what we're looking at. >> it's very fair, as you say. it could be both. people sometimes just get overtheir skis. adam, thank you very much. coming up on "ac 360," a major surprise when us boston mass grads. coming up at the top of the hour. and next here, the chaos and panic, as wind whipped through the cabin of a jet, a passenger opening the emergency door while that plane was in the air. ththat story is next.
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tonight, terror in the skies. asiana airlines passenger is under arrest tonight after he opened the plane's door midair. the plane landed safely but some passengers are still in the hospital tonight. >> reporter: wind howling through the cabin, 200 people on board, passengers gripping their armrests. these were the chaotic minutes before landing. officials say the plane was still 700 feet in the air, traveling around 170 miles an hour, when a man in his 30s grabbed an exit door. >> maybe a man tried to get off the plane. a flight attendant said, help, help, and about ten passengers stood up and pulled him in. >> it is supposed to be impossible. the doors are locked and beveled so that air pressure inside the
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plane pushes them into the opening. overcoming that pressure would be like lifting a car. >> so, at altitude, you simply can't do it. there are thousands of pounds of pressure on those doors. you cannot open them. you cannot open the over wing exits. >> but at very low altitudes on older planes, it might be possible. what we know for sure is the man on the asiana flight was arrested and others have tried the same thing. on a flight from l.a. to boston in march, authorities say a passenger was restrained after he attacked a crew member, tried to open the emergency exit door, and said he believed the flight attendant was trying to kill him. soon after, a court ordered him to undergo a mental health evaluation. >> pointed the gun at me. i will kill every man on this plane. >> reporter: other incidents have raised similar concerns in the air, including a woman who tried to open a door while
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flying from raleigh, north carolina. and on the ground, in los angeles, authorities say a man opened the door of a parked jet and jumped onto an exit slide. in chicago, officials say a man popped an emergency door while his plane taxied and walked onto the wing. and in new york, officials say a couple with their dog opened a door and took an exit slide as their plane was preparing to leave. why that man in the asiana incident allegedly tried to open that plane, we don't know. authorities are merely saying he was not in a good mental state. by the time it was all over, neither were some other passengers, who were taken to the hospital for hyperventilating. erin? >> it is terrifying, and i think everyone wants to know the motive. motive. time now for ac 360.
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