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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone. i'm tom king in for alisyn camera at that. debt ceiling drama. we're closer to a debt ceiling deal, closer but not there yet. janet yellen gave them four more days, and we've got a ways to go. even if they make a deal tomorrow morning, can they get it done in time? plus, can a trump-like candidate beat donald trump? that's the question, as ron desantis gets his campaign in high gear. the florida governor not being shy at all about taking on the former president, ripping him on the border of all things, calling him a big spender, and lasting his covid policies. >> i don't know what happened to donald trump. this is a different guy today than what he was running in 2015
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and 2016. and i think the direction he's going with the campaign is the wrong direction. >> no other republican in the trump era has been able to walk that tight rope. can ron desantis? here's a sobering thought this memorial day weekend. whenever you go in the water, you are, get this, never more than 200 feet to 300 feet away from a shark at any time. >> oh [ bleep ]! [ bleep ] a shark! tiger shark! >> jeff gore here with us tonight to tell us what you need to know. getting down to the wire, as lawmakers in the white house race the clock to try to prevent a first ever default. treasury secretary janet yellen buying them a little more time, writing, quote, based on the most recent available data, we now estimate the treasury will have insufficient resources to satisfy the government's obligations if congress has not raised or suspended the debt limit by june 5th. the treasury previously expected
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to run out of money as early as june 1st. and despite growing pressure, listen, president biden sounds optimistic about reaching a deal. >> things are looking good. very optimistic. i hope we'll have some clearer evidence tonight before the clock strikes 12:00, that we have a deal, but it's very close and i'm optimistic. i'm hopeful we'll know by tonight whether we'll have a deal. >> joining me, melanie zanona, professor of economic and policy, justin -- democratic congressman max rose. mel, let's start with you up on capitol hill. the president says we're close. he believes even it could come by the tick of midnight tonight. republicans say close, waiting on some things from the white house. where are we really? >> i don't know if we're going to expect a deal tonight, but it is certainly close. we're hearing from republicans
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here on capitol hill that they are indeed inching closer to a deal and that it could come as soon as this weekend. congressman patrick mchenry, he's been a rather pessimistic voice throughout this process, and he sounded the most hopeful i have heard him throughout this process. i want you to take a listen to what he told me just moments ago. >> i would concur. we're not at that stage yet. >> so, agreement on the agreement, the complicated part, you're all waiting around for, you know, the final agreement is not -- it's the hardest, longest wait. >> that is a hopeful sign to me, and i rarely use that term in the last 12 days that i've been involved in this. so, the hopeful the president would say those things tells me his white house team might be at a better disposition than we've seen in previous days. >> now, patrick mchenry also
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warned there, as you can hear, this is still a very laborious process. even if and when they come up with a deal, they have to turn it into legislative text. then they have to get what's known as an official score from the congressional budget office. then they have to give members 72 hours to read the bill. and then, john, comes the hard part, which is actually passing this thing on the house floor. even a deal that is blessed by biden and mccarthy does not necessarily have the votes. they're going to have to whip both of their parties. there's going to be people on the left and the right that are upset with the deals and the compromises that emerge. so, they're going to have to both put up votes. when that happens they'll still have to go to the senate where any single senator can hold things up. we're hearing from congressman mike lee who says he's willing to use his tools to slow things down if dhint like what he sees. it's still a long way to go. they have a little bit more breathing room now that the x date is june 5th. but they are hopeful. >> let's walk through both the
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politics and the substance. the substance first. justin wolf, first to you. janet yellen in her statement tonight trying to explain you've got a few more days, ladies and gentlemen. but she says, we will make more than $130 billion in scheduled payments in the first two days of june, including payments to social security and medicare recipients. these will leave treasury with an extremely low level of resources. there have been some republicans in congress, former president m trump himself saying don't buy it, don't believe it. it would not be that much of a calamity. it's okay. is it okay? >> no. the truth is none of us know. the only way we know is by looking at past debt ceiling defaults. thankfully we've never done that in the past. let me give you an educated guess. if we were to default, folks don't want to lend to us. how much? i don't know, maybe they would raise the interest rate by 1%.
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we owe $31 trillion. 1% of that is $300 billion. there are 300 million americans. that's $1,000 each that we would each be paying in extra interest every year if we default, and that's before we talk about a recession. so, if there's higher interest hits us for another ten years, each of your viewers is on the hook to pay another $10,000 in interest on our government debt. >> so, let's bring the congressmen into the conversation. janet yellen gives us four more days, if it was a business negotiation or a contract negotiation, you would say, great. we've got a little bit more time. in washington is that a good thing or a bad thing? as you know from your own experience, the longer this is on the vine, the more everybody either complains about something they know is in it or comes up with an idea to put something new in it. >> john, it's probably not a good thing because you know politicians only react to the
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deadline. and they wait until the last moment. look, we always dance this dance, and i was there when we last danced it in 2011. they're going to craft a deal. they probably already crafted a deal. and some on the right won't like it, and some on the left won't like it. and it'll mostly be passed by the majority of democrats and republicans. and that'll give mccarthy enough cover, i think, that he can say he tried. but at the end of the day, there's going to be unhappiness on both the far right and the far left with whatever deal this is. >> if you do, congressman rhodes, if you do from the framework, there's no deal until there's a total deal so nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to. but we know it would raise the debt ceiling for two years, get you through the presidential election. it would cap federal spending, not significantly cut but cap federal spending. they're stuck on the length of the spending caps, whether there
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would be work requirements or food stamps on the social safety net programs. will it be just for fossil fuels or green energy as well. let me ask you about the work requirements. both republicans and democrats say it's a red line. republicans say it's a red line for them. they won't vote for it if it's not in there. and a lot of progressives are furious saying, mr. president, don't you dare. how does the outline sound to you? it sounds like an old school republican deal, everybody gets a little and gives a little. but are we living in traditional times. >> i'm not certain what the democrats are getting in this deal other than they are avoiding economic calamity at a point they control two-thirds of the government. despite that fact, they are seeing reduced government spending. and that is not merely just a number here. this goes back to the signature or one of the signature legislative achievements of this administration, which was the 2023 budget, which saw unprecedented and vitally important increases in social
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service spending. but nonetheless, in a divided government, there will be compromises. there is a reason why, though, the work requirements are the last thing that is being agreed upon because both sides care very passionately about this issue. it is personally shocking to me that the republicans have even successfully inserted thissed into dialogue because it is not a fiscal issue. this may be an ideological issue, one that people are passionate about, but the economic implications about it are slim compared to the other issues that we are talking about. so, certainly if -- and it's a gigantic if -- the republicans are able to successfully slip in a significant work requirement restriction into this final compromise, i would sincerely hope that the democrats get something equally substantive in return. otherwise, what we're going to see is, you know, something small that is just meant to try
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to move on to another day. >> melanie zanona, if we get a traditional deal, the left doesn't like some things, the right doesn't like some things, in traditional time, it gets passed and we move on. again, we don't live in dr traditional times. how many votes can kevin mccarthy afford to lose and not have his hold on that job challenges? >> in terms of how many votes he could lose, it depends on how many votes democrats put up. the math is key here. the question of his speakership is a great question because during the race for the speaker's gavel, he gave his critics this tool, this power to force him out at any given moment. and he made a number of other promises as well, including that he would fight for fiscal 2022 spending levels. so, it is certainly a possibility that if he agrees to something that falls short of what conservatives are expecting, that he could be threatened, his speakership could be on the line here. now, do i expect the freedom caucus to vote for whatever deal
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comes out? no. they typically don't vote for these big deals. it's possible they could swallow this deal, vote against it, say they don't like it, put out a statement, and leave kevin mccarthy alone. but i think it really depends how much he angers them and how far he goes and what their eyes is caving to the democratic demands here. >> and when you look at the proposal -- again we don't have all the details, so it's hard to analyze. but the basic things in there, capping spending for some time, perhaps some work requirements. is there anything in there that you think would have a beneficial or detrimental impact on the united states economy? or is it a status quo thing? >> i think what's difficult here is almost all of this is ideological. the favorite example i give is the work requirements. the claim is that would leave more people to work. the evidence is they do no such thing. they just boot people off of benefits.
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the other that i find just absolutely astonishing is the nerve to cut $10 billion of funding from the irs. all of the estimates are it would help them catch more tax cheats than bring billions and billions the more in revenue. this isn't saving the government money. it's saving tax cheats from their burden. >> thank you. melanie zanona as well. congressman walsh and rosa are going to stay with us. ron desantis is going after donald trump as he never has before. but can he walk the fine line, attacking trump without alienating trump voters? that's it. miracle-gro. all you need to know to grow. relapsing ms isn't the only thing i have going on. that's why my doctor and i chose kesimpta. kesimpta is different. it's the only b-cell treatment for rms i can ta at home once a month. kesimp was proven superior
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ron desantis making a big change, as he gets his white house run in full gear. florida governor suddenly not shy about taking on the former president, donald trump. but can he do that without angering the republican base? back with me, the former republican congressman joe walsh, democratic congressman max rosa, and joining us now, molly ball, and ron brownstein. thanks everybody for being here. let's just listen to him because up until his official announcement, desantis sometimes implied criticism of trump but it was very gentle and nuanced. in just the past 48 hours, listen here. wow. >> i think he did great for three years, but when he turned the country over to fauci in march of 2020, that destroyed millions of peoples lives. when people look back, you know, that 2020 year was not a good year for the country as a whole.
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>> he said he was going to eliminate the national debt in 2016. he ended up adding almost $8 trillion to the debt in four years, and he is going left on a lot of the fiscal. he's going left on culture. he's even sided with disney against me. >> this is a different guy than 2015/2016. he attacked me for opposing an amnesty bill in the congress. he did support this amnesty, 2 million illegal aliens he wanted to amnesty. i opposed it because that's what america first principles dictate, that you're opposed to amnesty. >> molly ball, you listen to that, you see a politician clearly on policy after policy after policy after policy trying to get to what we used to call the right of donald trump. i guess the question is, does that ideological republican party, is it still organized that way, or is it trump's party and you can't criticize him? >> i think on the one hand, i'm having flashbacks of 2015 when we heard from ted cruz and jeb
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bush and so many others, trump is not a real conservative to. the base members of the republican party they didn't buy it or they didn't care. on the other hand, i think it's interesting to listen to what desantis is saying. he's like, like you, i always liked trump, and then he changed. he's saying the trump who's running now is not the same guy you supported back in 2016 or even in 2020, that he moved to the left, that he betrayed the principles that so many republican voters thought they were getting. that's an interesting argument, right? because we've seen that slight falloff in support for trump even among the republican base. desantis is trying to speak to those voters to say, i, like you, did like this guy at one point. but then i drifted away from him as he moved the in a different direction. >> and ron brownstein, let's add one to it. he's soft on covid, soft on spending, soft on the border, that's what ron desantis said of donald trump. he also said a big bipartisan
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achievement, ron desantis says, no donald trump is soft on crime. >> and soft on abortion, right? all i'm seeing is under the trump administration, he enacted a bill, basically a jailbreak bill. it's called the first step bill. it has allowed dangerous people out of prison, who has now reoffended and really, really hurt a number of people. so, one of the things i want to do as president is go to congress and seek the repeal of the first step act. if you are in jail, you should serve your time. >> ron, what do you see here in desantis clearly trying to get to trump's right. what percentage of republicans are locked in on trump no matter what? and is there enough room for ron desantis to pull this off? >> there's a big gamble here, john. i mean, the question is whether ron desantis has better odds of convincing the republican base that donald trump is insufficiently conservative or that he's insufficiently electable? because the two goals, i think, are inconflict.
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the way that he is going at him ideologically, as you point out, is constantly trying to get to his right. you can think of donald trump as this kind of mack truck rolling down the right lane of republican freeway. and with all these lanes to his left and center, desantis is trying to pass him in the shoulder, the 6 inches of the shoulder on the right. the problem with that is that the better argument, even in a republican primary, may be that donald trump can promise you all these things but he can't deliver them because he can't win again. by choosing to define himself to the right of trump, you see desantis alienating donors and strategists who thought he was potentially more electable than trump. it kind of undermines the second argument. if you're painting yourself into this corner on all of these issues, can you turn around and make the case that i am, in fact, a better vehicle to win back the suburbs of philadelphia, detroit, milwaukee, and atlanta than trump is? so, ultimately, i think desantis
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has to choose one argument or the other because the way he's pursuing the first, i think, undermines the second. >> max rose, jump in on that as the democrat in the conversation. i had several conversations and text messages from democrats saying the republicans are going to debate covid and abortion issues for the next six months. thank you very much. >> ron desantis has been socially inept for the last three or four months that if he merely acts like he's a human being on the campaign trail, the media applauds him as meeting expectations. there is one thing that he is getting correct here, and that is, i believe, that the republican base sincerely does want a fighter, or someone that they perceive as even a reckless fighter against norms, culture, the establishment, so on and so forth. they want someone who's going to fight the military, and he believes fight mickey mouse as
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well. but nonetheless, though, i think there is something he is getting absolutely wrong here. and that is that the person who win it is primary has to win the general. and the positions that he is taking here, even if he ever did win the primary -- and i still think that's a long shot -- no one wants someone who is going to talk in this reckless fashion, openly applauding the debts of hundreds of thousands, openly talking about how are they going to divide us rather than unite us, and openly talking about how they are going to wage war on millions of women's rights to make their own health care decisions. this is a losing campaign before our very eyes, and i think you're going to see him flail as time goes on. >> congressman walsh, you know ron desantis from when he served in the house. as you watch this strategy play out, he's taking a two by four to donald trump, who to many republican base voters, he's
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still their hero, whether we agree or disagreen the facts of election denial or policies. but listen here. he's giving a little bit of candy, sounding very much like trump, when it comes to criticizing the fbi and talking about possible pardons for january 6th offenders. listen. >> do you think the january 6th defendants deserve to have their cases examined by a republican president? and if trump, let's say, gets charged with federal offenses and you are the president of the united states, would you look at potentially pardoning trump himself, based on the evidence that might emerge of those charges? >> the doj and fbi have been weaponized. so, what i'm going to do, i'm going to do on day one, i will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases who people are victims of weaponization or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons. >> do you see that strategy, congressman walsh, as feasible? can you beat trump up, essentially say, i'm better than
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the original? >> oh, john, god no, god no. first of all because max is right, desantis has zero personality, charisma. say what you want about trump, but he's got personality. and that's the thing, john. republican base voters love donald trump. it's got nothing to do with policy. it's not policy based. you can't attack trump on policy. it's all personality. he's the victim. he's the bully. desantis can never outdo that. and john, desantis is trapped. ron desantis cannot say that the 2020 election was not stolen. he can never say that or he's done. and when donald trump is indicted again, ron desantis is going to have to say witch hunt or something like that, or he's done. but he can never yell, witch hunt, as loud as donald trump. it's almost an impossible road. >> congressman -- go ahead, ron,
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quickly, go ahead. >> real quick, trump is not exactly the same figure he was in '16. his support was pretty evenly distributed across the party ideologically. today he is much more dependent on the most conservative voters. you see desantis in fact using the same carl rode belief, you've got to go after a person and an opponent's strongest attribute. that is what desantis is doing. >> that's what makes it fascinating as we go forward. appreciate your time tonight. they're going to leave us. molly and ron are going to stay with us for another conversation. this one, simmering tensions erupted into articles of impeachment for a big trump ally. stay with us. > mont, these are the key n questions this m morning. >> we're bringing you the news. >> the political battle is far from over in tennessee. >> the stories at the center of your day. >> all coming in right here. >> "cnn news central." what aut work? i got you.
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the republican attorney general of texas, ken paxton, facing the possibility now of impeachment. the texas house committee voted unanimously yesterday to recommend articles of impeachment against paxton, including accusations of bribery, obstruction of justice, and dereliction of duty. paxton calls the investigation, helmed by fellow republicans, illegal. the full house chamber is
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scheduled to vote tomorrow afternoon. if it impeaches paxton, it moves on to the senate for trial. ed lavandera has more. >> reporter: one of the most controversial politicians in texas is facing impeachment. >> this was curated from the start as an act of political retribution. >> reporter: ken paxton has been the state's attorney general since 2016, but a house committee led by fellow republicans is accusing paxton of a litany of criminal acts, including bribery, obstruction of justice, dereliction of duty, 20 articles of impeachment in all filed against him. the charges brought by the texas general house investigating committee detail alleged violations by the ag and the request of more than $3 million of public money to pay a legal settlement to whistleblowers. they revolted against paxton in 2020. there are also bribery charges
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with a top campaign donor that involved an alleged affair. in a statement, paxton said the allegations are politically motivated and based on, quote, hearsay and gossip. and also added the corrupt politicians in the texas house are actively destroying texas' position as the backstop against the biden agenda in the country. >> deceitful impeachment attempt will inflict lasting damage on the credibility of the texas house. >> paxton has been under indictment for felony securities violations since taking office. he's also under fbi investigation for his actions connected to the articles of impeachment. paxton has denied all wrong doing, and texas voters have re-elected him as attorney general twice. and along the way, he's garnered the support of a major ally. >> he love this is state and loves his country. attorney general ken paxton. >> and taking a page out of the
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trump playbook, paxton blames the looming impeachment fight on liberal factions in the texas republican party. run representative predicts paxton will be impeached by the texas house, but is calling on the texas senate to refuse to hold an impeachment trial. >> no one has any evidence that he did anything wrong. it's all allegations. it's all allegations. so, yes, this is just -- this is political retribution is all it is. this is a complete sham. >> if the impeachment passes in the texas house with a majority vote, it moves on to the senate, where the attorney general's wife, state senator angela paxton, could be among those voting on his potential impeachment. >> ken paxton is urging friends and supporters to come peacefully rally on his behalf at the texas capitol on saturday, when texas lawmakers will vote on the articles of impeachment. and this is significant because it echos what donald trump did with his supporters on january 6th. we must point out that ken paxton was on that same stage
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with donald trump on that day. john? >> he was indeed. ed lavandera, thanks so much. back with me now, molly ball and ron brownstein. molly, i was listening to some of the testimony in the impeachment committee. some of these allegations go back to 2014 and 2015. there's been a state pench, clof smoke around ken paxton for a long time. why now? >> well, he essentially asked the legislature to participate in a cover up. as ed was saying, there's a request for a fine levied against him, more than $3 million to settle the claims of whistleblowers, republican staffers who worked in his office. he asked the legislature to pay that money for him, so they started investigating him on that basis. as you mentioned, this is someone who's been under indictment for nearly eight years. where is the judicial system? where is the fbi? is it any wonder that people have qualms about the rule of law in this country?
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here's someone who basically, you know, epitomizes trump's attitude that if you make the law, you know, they can't touch you and you get to make the rules. but there is a higher authority than the attorney general of texas, and it looks like it may finally be time to pay the piper. >> looks like it at least we get the vote in the house. ron brownstein, what is the significance outside the borders of texas. paxton has been one of the attorneys general who have gone to court repeatedly to challenge everything the biden administration does and often ta texas takes the lead. would he just be replaced by another republican? is it just about him or does it have bigger meaning? >> let's break it out from outside texas and inside texas. outside texas, his cig nave cancel is exactly what you say. republican attorneys general have repeatedly sued the biden administration trying to preserve the policies,
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particularly on immigration and the environment. very often texas is the lead plaintiff because that way they can find trump appointed district court -- other conservative district judges in texas and then have a pipeline for the case to go through the fifth circuit, perhaps the most conservative in the country. this is something that republican versus used over and over again. so, paxton has made himself into a hero for, you know, the maga base in many ways by positioning himself as kind of the tip of the sphere in legal efforts to stop biden. inside of texas, it's fascinating. there is a divide between the texas state senate and the texas state house. the state house has generally been considered more pragmatic, somewhat more centrist, although still under republican leadership, than the senate, which is led by dan patrick, which was kind of trump before trump. and the intramural struggle is reflected in this. it's the house pursuing and unclear whether the senate will
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follow up. it is remarkable, though, for this to be coming up at the end of the session, which has probably been the most conservative in texas history, which is saying something. not only a wrack of socially conservative measures but both chambers to strip the authority from increasingly -- including giving the state authority to overturn elections just in harris county, which is houston. so, for this to come -- this kind of intramural fighting to come out at the end of the session that has been so ideologically aggressive, is still somewhat remarkable. >> and molly called it intramural fighting. that it is. it has reality tv flavor to it, using the trump playbook. i don't know if that's fair or not in the case. this is led by republicans, so he calls them rhinos. he's gone beyond that. he's not just saying i didn't do these things. he's trying to attack the
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investigator if you will. he sent a letter, based on the speaker dade phelan in an obviously intoxicated state, i'm calling for -- that we have seen in washington, attack the attackers, attack the investigators. does it work in texas? >> well, we'll see. it doesn't seem to have worked in this case because that statement was issued right before they announced all of the articles of impeachment. so, clearly it was some sort of attempt to head this off or as you say to attack the attackers. but, look, this is republicans policing their own. it is hard for him to argue this is somehow partisan. again, this whistleblower complaint started with loyal republican staffers in his own office who became alarmed about his behavior, about the way that he was using the office allegedly to cover up for his friends and do his friends' bidding and help them. so, you know, it is dween -- this is all between republicans. there are -- to talk about a
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liberal faction in the texas state legislature, it doesn't really exist. so, you know, he's clearly trying everything he can. and he will have the opportunity to make his case in these proceedings. but this has been coming for a very long time. >> yes, it has. and now the moment of truth is here. i just want to put on the record the reaction from the texas house speaker to that. his communications director saying, little more than a last ditch effort to save face. great to see you both. have a great weekend. if you're making plans to head to the beach this weekend yourself, please stick around. jeff koryn here with us to talk about the dangers in the water and what to do if you encounter them. that's next. electric dream days are here. come in now and experience the intense thrills and incredible offers on any of five
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as beachgoers prepare for the holiday weekend, officials are warning people, be mindful, be mindful of possibility of sharks in the water. this comes after reports of several unprovoked attacks over just the last several weeks. the latest incident in turks and caicos. we should note the experts say and the numbers show shark attacks are extremely, extremely
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rare, but they do happen. >> i thought it was just a crab pinching my foot, but it felt bigger than that i realized. and my whole foot was in his mouth. and i was shaking my foot as hard as i could. it was hard. it was really heavy. >> wildlife biologist jeff core win, host of "wildlife nation" joins us. it's alarming. is it safe to go to beach? >> good evening, john. and yes, context is so important. it is safe to go into the beach. here in massachusetts, where i live, where you're from, you have a chance of winning megabucks a couple times than being attacked by a shark. with that said, we are noticing an increase in some of these negative encounters between human beings and sharks, particularly in places like florida, the american south, and places like new england because here, unlike other parts of the
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world, where shark populations are crashing, our shark populations are growing. >> they are growing. i was up at the cape last year, and i saw several of them last year. so, you get advice from the experts because if a shark gets near you, maintain eye contact with the shark, slowly move away, exit the water. if a shark tries to bite you, hit the eyes and the gills, it had the snout, and push away. okay. i can read that advice. i'm not so sure if a shark approached me in the water i would have wisdom and the grace and the patience and the calmness to remember it. but what would jeff koryn do? >> good luck with that. that's how i look at that. my technique is, you know, if i'm going in the water with john king, i don't need to outswim that shark. i just need to outswim john king, right? but seriously, when you're in the water with sharks, you need to remember, as you touched on earlier, in a healthy marine environment, like here along plymouth and the cape, where i
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live, we have lots of sharks. you're often never more than 300 feet away from a living shark. sharks are integral to ecosystems. they're a sign of a healthy ecosystem. with that said, you don't want to be at the wrong side of a shark. the best way to avoid injury is to avoid those situations where negative encounters could happen, like going in the water at low light levels during dawn or dusk, after rainstorms, during the breeding season. if there's a big predator/prey event. john, you're talking about cape cod. i scuba dive just about every day in the summertime when i'm home. there are places i would not scuba dive, especially where we get big clusters or groups of gray seals and harvest seals. the reason why our great white shark population is growing is because their buffet is all you can eat. >> you see the seals every time you're up there. i want to move on to another
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issue that you're incredibly passionate about which is the north atlantic wright whale. you say we're at this now or never moment in trying to save this species. tell us what you mean. >> absolutely, john. it's so serious right now. the north atlantic wright whale, its population, this species, has begun to collapse. this year, we only had 11 surviving offspring. it should be triple that. so, there's a group right called, the international fund for animal welfare. they have a research vessel called song of the whale. they also, not far from here, they have the marine mammal rescue center. then, along with the team from noaa and research conservationists have discovered this species is about to disappear. they migrate up from florida up into canada waters. they do that. they come up here to feed. and as they're migrating their way up, they give birth, they
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reproduce in florida, they come and feed in places like nova scotia. they're getting hit by container ships when they migrate into shipping lanes. they're also getting entangled in fishing gear. so, you're looking at footage right now. this is a whale that's entangalled up in ghost net and fishing gear. and it takes herculean efforts -- it's actually very dangerous to try to free these entangled whales. but when you're so endangered, when you're so close to disappearing, every one of these whales matters. another challenge they're facing, john, is when they go to canada and when they head up to maine, the bay of maine is the fastest-warming body of water on the planet. so, that means they come here to eat, and they have to work so much harder to fill their bellies. so, you add the climate change, the entanglements with nets and the shipping lanes, this creature is in a world of hurt.e
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species. >> what are the two or three most important things to do now? >> so, the most important things we can do is make sure we're getting those ghost nets out of the water, we work with our friends in the fishing community. you know, i actually commercial fish in the summer myself. but the fishing community, they are our allies and they're our partners to this success. for example, we now have these incredible state of the art technology lobster traps that actually deploy the buoys when they're ready to be collected versus just hanging in the water, potentially entangling whales. we have this incredible technology. we need to watch where these vessels are going so they're not hitting whales in parts of the country, like in the south, boaters, both recreational and commercial, need to slow down. we give these creatures some space, they will survive. but this is our last chance.
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and in the end, we will all play the price if the incredible majestic north atlantic wright whale becomes extinct. >> amen to that point. thank you for your time. important input. >> thank you, john. >> imagine you're on a plane 700 feet in the air when suddenly the exit door opens. well, that happened on one flight. and we've got the video. that's next. my relationship with my credit cards wasn't good. i got into debt in college, and no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. the high interest... i felt trapped.
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video from a south korean jet when a man allegedly opens the cabin door in midair. >> reporter: wind howling through the cabin, 200 on board. passengers gripping their armrests. this before landing for the asian yeah airlines in south korea. officials say the plane was still 700 feet in the air, traveling around 170 miles an hour, when a man in his 30s grabbed an exit door. >> maybe the man tried to get off the plane. a flight attendant said, help, help, and about ten passengers stood and up pulled him in. >> reporter: opening a commercial jet door in flight is supposed to be impossible.
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the doors are locked and beveled so that air pressure inside the plane pushes them firmly into the door opening. aviation experts say overcoming that pressure would be like lifting a car. >> so at altitude, you simply can't do it. there are thousands of pounds of pressure on those doors. you cannot open them, you can't open the over-wing exits. >> reporter: ought but at very low altitudes on some older planes, experts say it might be possible. what we know for sure is the man on the asian yeah flight was arrested and others have tried the same thing. >> taking off of this plane! >> reporter: on a flight from l.a. to boston in march, authorities say a passenger was restrained after he attacked a crew member trying to open the emergency exit door and said she believed the flight attendant was trying to kill him. a court ordered him to undergo a mental health evaluation. >> where's homeland security with the gun? i'm waiting for them to point the gun at me. i will kill every man on this plane! >> reporter: other incidents
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have raised similar concerns in the air, including a woman who tried to open a door while flying from raleigh, north carolina. >> and on the ground in los angeles, authorities say a man opened the door of a parked jet and jumped onto an exit slide. in chicago, a officials say a man popped an emergency door while his plane taxied and walked onto the wing. in new york, officials say a couple with their dog opened a door and took an exit slide as their plane was preparing to leave. why the man in the asiana sdirnt allegedly tried to open that door, we don't know. authorities say he was not in a good mental state. by the time it was over, some other passengers weren't either, taken to the hospital for hy hyperhyperventilating....desig n. like a s smart coffee grinder -
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