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newton. while negotiators race to reach a debt limit deal. the impact on sbmall business owners,sh they're message is simple, get a deal done. and filling your tank compared to this time last year and what's behind the change. republican governor ron desantis on the offensive, and there are clear signs that the gloves will be coming off now that he's officially running for the white house. >> announcer: live in cnn center, this is "cnn newsroom" with paula newton. so the white house and republicans could be on the brink of reaching a deal that would allow the united states to keep paying its bills. negotiators have been hammering out the details in late-night talks and a source tells cnn that an agreement on raising the debt ceiling could come as soon as today. even a deal is reached it still, remember, has to pass both houses of congress to avert a
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financial disaster. manu raju has our report. >> the clock is now ticking, june 5th. the new date to avoid the first ever debt default in the united states if congress and the white house cannot agree to reach a deal, to raise the national debt limit. a default could have drastic economic ramifications in the united states and around the world, and it starts with getting a deal between speaker mccarthy, his top allies and the white house. at the moment there is no deal yet. they are very close to one, though, they've been negotiating furiously for days, late into the night, as they've horse traded on a whole wide range of issues, and as republicans have pushed for spending cuts to be attached to any piece of legislation to raise the national debt limit. there are indications the white house is moving closer to the republicans' position on that, and there are also some indications that the republicans are giving a little bit more to the white house on how long to
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extend the national debt limit for, the white house wants it done through the 2024 elections. republicans initially proposed to do it just for one year so they can get back and have this fight again next year. the white house does not want to have this fight again. it appears republicans would allow for a two-year debt limit increase. the other major sticking points as well, including over the issue of work requirements. that means actual -- for social safety net programs. what republicans want is to impose on programs like food stamps, new work requirements for those beneficiaries. democrats believe that push will hurt needy families, and could be detrimental to a lot of people who rely on that for their nutrition and for their daily lives. but, all the negotiation as part of the discussion now going forward and as garrett gives, one of the top negotiators told me earlier in the day, that he will insist on work requirements to be part of any deal. >> democrats right now are willing to default on a debt so
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they can continue making welfare payments for people refusing to work, i'm talking about people that are without dependents, able-bodied between 18 and 55, that's crazy to me we're having this debate today. >> are you willing to drop that work requirements? >> hell no, not a chance. >> reporter: even if a deal is reached as soon as saturday get getting this into law is a whole other question. they're going to need to have votes in both chambers to do that. democrats don't like the compromises the white house is making. conservatives don't like the fact they have watered down in their view the position the republicans had in april when they passed their own bill to raise the debt limit out of the house, it included a slew of spending cuts, and also had things like reining joe biden's policies, including student loan forgiveness. that won't be part of this ultimate deal. dozens of deconservatives are
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threatening to vote against the bill. the whipping will take place by the members to push this through in a matter of days. it goes through the united states senate, assuming they can get the votes through the house. a lot of members are concerned about what they are hearing, and senators have been shut out of the negotiations that have been taking place between the speaker's team and the white house. a lot of questions here still remaining, even though there's optimism that a deal is within reach, a long way to go to avert default. manu raju, cnn, capitol hill. earlier i asked political analyst michael jimeves, how he believes the negotiations have gone so far. >> when you jump out of a plane you should open the parachute before you hit the ground. it seems that logic has been lost on the democrats and republicans, especially the republicans who are digging their heels in. we need to make a deal. there's no need not to make a
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deal. we've made deals like this before, 90 times since 1960 we've raised the debt limit without fanfare, without fuss, without bother. so, it's time for the grown ups to take over, and i'm hoping that they're in the room. >> yeah, one would hope they're in the room. they do seem to be close. having said that our chief business correspondent here christine romans has been reminding us for weeks, the u.s. credit rating, the borrowing prowess, the u.s. dollar supremacy, it is an american superpower. and even if there is a deal right now at the last moment, that it erodes confidence because the political deal makers right now seem to have the economy by the throat. how much do you think it will damage the standing, not just globally, but obviously with americans as well in terms of losing confidence of what can be done? >> well, i think we've also already seen some damage done. i mean, global leadership is
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always gradual, it's always tentative, and it's built on interest and perception. is it in the interest, for example, of another country to follow our lead? and do they believe, do they have faith that we have the capacity to actually lead and to execute? it's not automatic. it has to be earned, and has to be earned every day. and a global superpower has to demonstrate that. it must both be, and be seen as having the capacity to be strong, reliable, to have a clear and steady hand. and this manufactured crisis has called into question the very capacity of the americans to lead. >> thanks to michael there. what are some of the real world implications in the u.s. defaults? look at how small businesses across the country could be affected, not just the owners, but their employees and customers as well. cnn's gabe cohen has our report. >> reporter: from a construction site in baltimore -- >> i get really frustrated by that. >> reporter: brendan is
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imploring washington lawmakers to hammer out a deal and raise the debt ceiling before the u.s. government runs out of cash to pay its bills. >> for crying out loud, just show up and do your job and stop putting everybody at risk. >> reporter: he says 60% of his construction firm's revenue comes from government contracts and they just started another project. what could a default mean for your business? >> we're doing millions of dollars worth of work over the next 30 to 60 days, when am i going to get paid for that. i have a great backlog second half of the year as long as we don't have a catastrophe. >> workers are anxious. >> four people depending on you. my family, and who knows if they're going of a roof over their head or food in their bellies, you don't know. >> reporter: tens of thousands of small businesses work on government contracts but a default would even strangle the ones that don't. it would drive up borrowing costs, making it harder to get
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loans and credit. >> where they're trying to grow or survive it's tough for them if the government defaults. >> reporter: are you worried it could push them out of business? if it's a sustained default. >> how stressful has this time been? >> it's been stressful. >> reporter: a consulting firm that helps developing countries increase incomes for the poor, the ceo says 80% of their revenue comes from government contracts. you're already making adjustments. >> we have stopped hiring, made plans to limit spending, we are not being aggressive in our new business, our new proposals that we're going after. we're just kind of treading water, waiting to see what happens. >> reporter: a long-term default could erase by one estimate about 8 million jobs, and $10 trillion in household wealth. it would also stall payments for federal programs like social security, medicare, veterans benefits, and food stamps.
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ephraim says half his revenue comes from customers using snap funds. >> we're going to have big reductions on the sales until our businesses. >> reporter: what would you have to do as an owner to adjust for that? >> i think it's going to be very bad. i'm going to end up cutting employees. >> reporter: some grocery stores are already cutting back on expensive or specialty items in case a deal isn't reached in time and sales go south. >> they need to consider about the people, the american people, they need to consider that. they need to consider about the low income in peoples, how they're going to be impacting. >> reporter: these businesses that are tightly tide to the government are already taking steps to prepare, and now as for the rest of us if a deal isn't reached the small business administration predicts more companies raising prices, cutting services, even scaling back expansion plans. in other words, we will all feel this before long unless there's a deal. gabe cohen, cnn, washington. in the u.s. air travel for
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memorial day weekend has already reached the highest level in nearly 3 1/2 years, and airports right across the country are expected to be even busier over the next two days. transportation security officials say they expect to screen about 10 million passengers. delta airlines says holiday weekend ticket sales are up 17% from last year, and united airlines says this will be its busiest memorial day holiday in more than a decade. for passengers, what matters most, of course, is getting where you need to go. take a listen. >> if things run smoothly, people do their jobs efficiently, it's a great trip. >> pack your patience. come prepared. >> i'm keeping my fingers crossed i get home without a hitch. >> i'm supposed to fly from charlotte to miami, then miami to dr, but, you know, all flights there are full. >> reporter: for many americans the highways are the preferred way to travel this holiday weekend, and this year police want drivers, listen up here, to
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be safe and sober. >> drinking and driving is always the one that we tell people please don't do that. the other thing that we see often, especially when there's so much traffic, is tailgating. you try to give -- you're supposed to try to give a car length for every ten miles an hour. >> people are going to want to be in a hurry where they're going. you know there's going to be heavy traffic so give yourself extra time to get to your destination. >> now, while it sounds like the roads are going to be very crowded, one thing people won't be complaining about is the cost of fuel. cnn's brian todd has more. >> reporter: at this bp station in mclean, virginia, pleasant surprises. >> everything else is going up a lot more, so at least gas prices have kind of been stable. >> you know, i mean for the past one year i think the prices are a little bit, you know, better for the citizen. >> reporter: the cost of your holiday road trip at least behind the wheel is lower this year, gas prices steeply down
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from a year ago. the national average standing at $3.57 a gallon according to aaa, down more than a dollar from the average at this time last year which was $4.60 a gallon. analysts say there are several reasons for this, the global price for barrel of oil is low. >> economic head winds, the central bank's raised interest rates, tamed inflation, cooled americans desires to hit the road. >> that's the case so far this year but this holiday weekend will see more americans on the road, more than 37 million according to aaa, up 6% from a year ago. another reason for lower gas prices, russia's war in ukraine hasn't cut russia's oil supply to world markets as much as was anticipated. >> we thought russia was going to disappear from the world market, their oil is still getting to market, in certain places, despite the fact that the u.s. -- the eu, and uk have sanctions on them. >> reporter: and experts believe
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motorists won't see huge price changes anytime soon. >> the odds are against the national average hitting the $4 a gallon mark this summer. >> reporter: so we asked motorists a key question, will you change your travel plans for your driving happeneds now that prices are lower? >> i actually just drove in from michigan today to be with my son, so, you know, i think that i'm encouraged to keep traveling and get together with family again. it's been a while. >> this weekend is the first weekend i'm actually going to a beach, so that's like pretty exciting. >> reporter: analyst patrick de-hahn says if lower gas prices have you thinking about a longer road trip, planned or spontaneous, there is a certain time of summer that might be a better window to travel than others. >> if you're planning a road trip, the closing innings of summer may be a better bet simply because the supply of that special blend of summer gasoline increases over the next six to eight weeks, culminating in a peak of gasoline supply that amasses right as the peak driving season is happening in
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late july. >> de-hahn and other analysts say this optimism over gas prices this summer, especially in the late part of the summer, comes with the usual caveat. if there's a major hurricane in the later part of the summer, or more than one hurricane, the disruption of refineries along the gulf coast, prices could shoot up again, brian todd, cnn, mclean, virginia. >> on the topic, weather, millions in the united states are flo cking to beaches for the memorial holiday weekend, but the weather may not cooperate. along the southeast coast, heavy rains, gusty winds, rip currents and coastal flooding. parts of the carolina coast are under threat of excessive rain and flooding saturday, severe storms are possible from the great plains from texas to montana. meantime, super typhoon mowar is moving west-northwest over the pacific ocean. it's been the strongest storm on the planet in years. equivalent to a strong category 5 atlantic hurricane.
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mowar is expected to turn away from the philippines and slowly weaken as it moves further north over cooler waters. and now earlier this week the storm lashed the u.s. territory of guam with powerful winds and torrential rains, leaving significant damage and flooding but luckily it was not as bad as initially feared. a former elite u.s. soldier dies in the ukrainian city of bakhmut, still ahead we retrace the final steps of retired army sergeant nicholas maymar and the events that led to the terrifying death. plus, turkey goes back to the polls tomorrow in a runoff election that will determine the next president. live to istanbul after the break.
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agency says russia plans to simulate a nuclear accident at the occupied zaporizhzhia plant and it says the plan is to carry out a strike at the facility, and then falsely announce a radiation leak in order to thwart the upcoming ukrainian counteroffensive, russian officials deny the cross-claim which ukraine didn't back up with any evidence. no response from the u.n.
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nuclear watchdog. meantime, pro-russian officials are accusing ukraine of missile strikes that hit. ukraine is not officially claiming responsibility but a ukrainian political adviser says the target was the city's steel plant where he says russia set up an ammunition depot. more than 100 ukrainians who were captured after fighting in the bakhmut area have now been released in a prisoner swap with russian forces, kyiv commended the troops saying they prevented the russians from advancing further east. the soldiers range in age from 59 years old to as young as 21. many of them were previously thought to be missing. ukraine says three bodies were repatriated during the exchange, two foreigners and a ukrainian woman. one of those bodies belongs to a former special forces member who was killed in bakhmut. we're joined by clare sebastian in london. glad you're following this story
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for us and these exchanges are obviously quite emotional, many family members do not know what happened to their loved ones. tell us more about how these exchanges unfolded? >> reporter: yeah, it's interesting, paula, we've seen a number of these exchanges over the course of this war. in a sense they are a diplomatic achievement but should not be read as a sign of anything, they are further apart than ever. interesting the roll that wagner played in this one given they spearheaded the russian advance in bakhmut, yhe promised to return him in a dignified manner and ended up it seems fulfilling that promise but we've been looking into the circumstances of the death of this american veteran. mcth nicholas maymar, his story unfolded in the final days in bakhmut before wagner and russia
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claim to have taken the entire town. of course, ukraine still disputes that russia has control of the entire town, but take a look at how that unfolded and what it tells us about this battle. under cover of darkness a russian military blogger fills wagner's chief heading into what he calls the left. the russian nickname for a group of what were once high-rise residential buildings on the western edge of bakhmut, one of the last areas to fall under russian control. he's taken to see a body, we're not showing it as it's graphic, an american citizen identified by these documents, and a friend as nicholas maymar, a retired u.s. army special forces soldier. >> 14th, 15th, nick was in the bakhmut area, he was with some other fellow territorial defense soldiers and they came under attack and unfortunately the area that nick was in, that
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particular building took a direct hit from an artillery round. the area that he was at in that building collapsed in on him, and he was unable to make it out. >> reporter: by piecing together the circumstances of maymar's death cnn built up a picture of the intense battle for these final scraps of a town that has come to symbolize the destructiveness of russia's war. this is where they pulled our american out, says prigozhin pointing to the building where he says maymar was found, the same building identified by maymar's friend based on information he got from the member of the same brigade maymar with was in bakhmut. here it is on a satellite image on may 13th, intact, two days later the day after night maymar is believed to have died this plume of smoke, evidence of the sudden artillery hit. a few days after that an obvious crater in the building's roof.
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>> it's world war ii tactics, using 2023 technology. and so the idea of, you know, a bombardment of artillery and missile strikes is a usual thing there, but for us in the u.s. we're a lot more clinical than that. >> reporter: over just a few days this entire area evidence of those tactics, satellite images revealing a battle fought from high rise to high rise, chunks blown out of apartment blocks, even a school. all of this damage appearing within just two days. the enemy has been beaten out of the nest, says this wagner fighter in video published on may 20th by russian state news outlet. cnn has geolocated the video, shot from inside the building when nicholas maymar died, you can see this distinctive light blue building, once a day care center and in the distance the spire of a partially destroyed
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church. here are all three locations seen from above. after nine months of slow brutal fighting nicholas maymar found himself in the midst of a fierce fast onslaught. >> nick wasn't with them when they withdrew from the building and they were trying to recover, do a recovery operation when it was reoccupied by the russians. so they weren't able to do it. >> and then wagner got there first. >> wagner got there first. >> reporter: well as for wagner, a as of thursday they have begun to withdraw their forces from bakhmut, handing over to the russian regular army to defend those gains for the family and friends, though, of nicholas maymar, that is now the retrieval, his body to the ukrainian side, the biggest hurdle cleared in their effort to bring him home, give him a proper burial, poignant on this memorial day weekend. >> that will give nem a measure
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of comfort, extraordinary the images uncovered, a stark, stark picture of the kind of brutal battle that was going on there, clare sebastian for us in london. pope francis will resume his regular schedule today after he cancelled meetings on friday due to a fever. cnn's delia gallagher is in rome with the latest on the 86-year-old pontiff. >> reporter: the vatican said early friday afternoon that pope francis had a fever and therefore didn't have any meetings in the morning on friday, a few hours later the cardinal secretary of state told journalists at the sidelines of a conference that the pope was tired, that he had a particularly intense day on thursday and that speaks to one of the issues here that pope francis keeps up a very grueling schedule at the vatican, meeting groups from 9:00 in the morning until 1:00 in the afternoon nearly every day. often giving speeches and trying to meet each of these people
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individually. francis is 86 years old. he was hospitalized in march for bronchitis, so obviously a fever is concerning. the pope also has a mobility issue, which we have seen, that compounds his health issues. he has a problem with his knee, which has made him use a wheelchair for some time now. his knee has gotten better, he's able to stand and walk a bit but still obviously not getting that brisk exercise, which would be important to keep his health up. now, the pope does have a busy schedule as well this coming weekend on saturday, he has meetings as well as a big mass on sunday for pentecost, and on monday he's due to meet the italian president at the vatican. we will be monitoring the situation, of course, and bringing you updates as we get them. delia gallagher, cnn, rome. just ahead for us, look at how florida governor ron desantis is taking aim at former president trump, his main rival for the republican presidential nomination. u past the doubt.
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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm paula newton, you are watching cnn newsroom. the white house is republican negotiators are closing in on a deal to avert a financial catastrophe. we're told an agreement to raise the debt ceiling could be reached as soon as today, any deal would then need to be passed by both houses of congress before june 5th. that's the date the u.s. is expected to run out of money to pay its bills. florida governor and newly minted republican presidential candidate ron desantis is taking the gloves off when he speaks about his rival, former president donald trump. desantis' campaign raised over
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$8 million in its first 24 hours despite the glitch-filled announcement on twitter wednesday. since then desantis has been swinging hard at trump. >> he understands i've got a good chance to beat him. he doesn't criticize anybody else now, it's only me. they know i'm more likely to win the election. for him to say that we're not winning in florida, nope -- has taken a state from being a swing state 4 1/2 years ago to now being a red state in such a dramatic fashion. >> and desantis told the conservative ben shapiro show that trump is weak on illegal immigration and soft on crime. >> 2 million illegal aliens he wanted to amnesty. i opposed it under the trump administration, you know, he enacted a bill basically a jailbreak bill, called the first step act, it is allowed dangerous people out of prison who have now reoffended, and really, really hurt a number of people. >> meantime trump hit back on
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social media calling himself the standard bearer for maga republicans. ♪ turkey is just a day away from its presidential runoff election, president tayyip erdogan got the most votes first round but failed to cross the threshold needed for an outright win. cnn's nada bashir joins us live from istanbul. 24 hours left to go until those polls open, less than, actually, how is the campaign going, especially given that erdogan perhaps looks stronger in the position now than many political pundits assumed before round one. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, and those campaigns are still ongoing with just hours to go before campaigning officially ends later this evening. we saw rallies taking place yesterday in parts of istanbul, both in support of the opposition, and of course in support of president erdogan's
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ak party. now, of course we did see that first round president erdogan's party securing 49.5% of the vote. just short of that 50 plus 1 percent to pass through the threshold to declare a victory. the opposition on the other hand did better than they have done in the past. just under 45%. this a remarkable feat for an opposition matter that has brought together six very different political parties when it comes to the spectrum on various different policies, and, in fact, this is the most unified we have seen them, standing behind one single candidate, the hope now, of course, for the opposition is that this last-minute campaigning over the last two weeks will be enough to secure them, those extra votes, crucial votes needed to step past that threshold. for president erdogan's parties, very hopeful and the signs are looking favorable given the fact that earlier this week we heard from cnn, the ahead of the
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nationalist party which came third in the first round of the election, they secured about 5% of the vote. and owen earlier this week expressed his support for president erdogan. the hope for the ak party, and its supporters, is that this announcement, this pledge of support for erdogan will see a shift of votes from the nationalist party to the ak party in the second round. but tsk it's not set in stone and we have heard from politicians within the party expressing support for the opposition leader, kemal kilicdaroglu. the campaigning will end later this evening, and there are some significant challenges ahead for whoever does become the next president of turkey. president erdogan has been in power now for more than two decades and he has faced real criticism over the state of the economy, we're seeing soaring inflation, many blame his unorthodox economic policies for that, and of course the aftermath of the earthquake, both pledging to boost the economy and, of course, a rapid
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recovery of the southeast which was impacted by that earthquake, some significant challenges ahead. let's not forget this is a crucial nato ally on the world stage. >> absolutely with -- in close p proximity of the russian ukrainian conflict. nada ba nada bashir, appreciate it. we'll have live coverage of the election hosted by dbecky anderson, right here on cnn. rescuers are no longer looking for survivors at a bombed out medical facility in ukraine, ahead, we'll go to the site of the russian attack in dnipro, where search and rescue operations have ended.
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officials say search and rescue operations are over at the site of a russian rocket strike in the ukrainian city of dnipro. the attack obliterated this
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medical facility on friday leaving at least two people dead and more than 30 others wounded. rescuers have finished clearing a three-story building part of that facility. more than three dozen high rises and other buildings were also damaged in the attack, including schools and kindergartens. but there's no word on the fate of three people who are now considered missing. sam kiley has more now from the scene. >> reporter: dnipro, like so many other ukrainian cities, is no stranger now to scenes like this after more than a year of russian bombardment. this, though, is a medical clinic, a neurological medical clinic, it's one of dozens of hospitals and other medical structures that the russians have attacked. according to the world health organization close to a thousand medical personnel and other medical facilities, as well as buildings, have been bombed by the russians over the last year, and according to the french government that amounts to a war
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crime. but even if this wasn't deliberately targeted, we're in a residential area. there's an apartment building there, there's more medical facilities just down the road, there are more apartments here, and indeed a sports stadium under construction. now, we've seen the systematic destruction in syria of medical facilities by the russians, and that continues, and for the last year and a bit we've seen it here again by the russians. sam kiley, cnn in dnipro. meantime, a ukrainian presidential adviser called the dnipro hospital attack, quote, a deliberate strike on a civilian object. and said such attacks constitute war crimes, speaking with fred po pleitgen on friday, also took a swing at russia's president.
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>> reporter: don't overestimate putin, this is a man with a very low level of intelligence, a man whom everyone overestimated and accordingly made wrong conclusions about his ability to analyze what is happening and this is unfortunately one of the reasons why we have a war today. putin's sacredness has already been destroyed, ieven prigozhin has no respect for putin. >> that's a presidential adviser there speaking with our fred pleitgen. for more on this, i'm joined by cnn military analyst retired u.s. air force colonel cedric leighton, and thanks for being here with us again as we continue to watch spring, and going into summer soon, it's all unfolding in ukraine, the weather's good, the ground is hard, and this conflict is hitting a new more menacing stride, i would call it, we looked at that attack on that medical facility. i mean, do you fear that we will start to see more of this,
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certainly a more ferocious battle? and, again, more of those civilian targets. >> we'll see quite a bit of these attacks. i think it's part of the russian playbook, i think the russians are going to be intensifying their attacks on the civilian infrastructure, and i think it's going to be something that will probably go in waves. you'll see, you know, facilities like medical facility of dnipro, you will see, perhaps, it moving to once again the power supply. perhaps other installations. so there are going to be some waves that the russians will mount. they're going to go in and try to disrupt any preparations that the ukrainians have for a counteroffensive. >> yeah, a tall order at this point, and we should also say that when we report on ukraine there are reporting restrictions on ukraine in terms of us understanding where they are with that counteroffensive.
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i want to move to a recent analysis conducted by the royal united services institute. that's in the uk, and they point out in this analysis that russia, in fact, can still prosecute this war quite effectively. they can continue to claim victories, and the reason is that their ground strength is changing. they are adapting. they are now getting better, right, in a year plus that they've been prosecuting this war, they are also pointing out that ukraine's counteroffensive will have to be quite dynamic in order to, you know, come across in the way that they want to. i'm wondering what you think of that analysis, given the fact that ukraine has already said, look, our counteroffensive will likely not be a shock and awe operation, we are still going to be going into what will be a fairly grinding assault here. >> yeah, i do wonder about the idea of going into a grinding assault. of course, you know, you look at it from the standpoint of the ukrainians, and the capabilities that they have, and, you know,
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that's probably at least in their minds the only thing that they can do. but, if they can overcome that, and if they can actually have a -- an area where they can move forward quickly with lightning speed that would definitely be to their advantage, and it's -- it's something that, you know, as far as the rusi report is concerned, i think there's some very interesting elements to that, in particular what struck me were the intelligence aspects of this, such as the ability of the russians to intercept ukrainian tactical communications, not only to intercept but to decrypt them. that can be a game changer potentially if they can use the intelligence they gained from that to their advantage, so that could adversely impact the ukrainian effort. >> yeah, and i'm glad that you point that out in that analysis as well. when you say a game changer, do you think this has taken the ukrainians by surprise? perhaps they wouldn't have expected them to have that kind of capacity at this point in the conflict.
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>> well, i think it would be very important for the ukrainians to realize that one thing the russians do very, very well is intelligence, and intelligence collection efforts, what they do less well at is moving the information from the collection effort to the military operational side of things, and that, you know, could be the weakness that the ukrainians can exploit. it's one thing to have the information, it's another thing to use it. >> yeah, such a good point. i also want to point out the fact that the guardian newspaper is now reporting that former british prime minister boris johnson met with former president donald trump this week in the united states, the mission apparently was to try and convince trump that the ukrainian cause is one that should be sustained, given that he along with some other republicans are -- and specifically ron desantis, the governor of florida, you know, are saying, look, we -- this is not a blank check, we will not sustain zelenskyy for an
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indefinite period of time. you know, how durable is u.s. support? and if it's not durable, what does that mean? >> yeah, if it's not durable, that's a problem for ukraine. so, you know, it really depends when you look at the divisions within the republican party in the united states when it comes to ukraine it's actually quite profound, on the one hand those two presidential candidates saying that they want to modify or terminate -- depending which day of the week you talk to them. on the other hand you have a lot of members of congress saying they absolutely want to continue aid to ukraine for as long as it takes. basically adopting the biden administration. so with these factors, you know, have to play into zelenskyy's calculations, and i think zelenskyy is looking at this, he realizes he has a clock he has to beat in this case, and the more territory that he can gain, the better off he's going to be, and that is, think, what the
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real goal is here, he wants to have a good position when all of this ends in whatever form that end might take. >> yeah, and as you said, the clock is ticking and he will know that, and especially given those diplomatic efforts, if you call them that, from former prime minister boris johnson it was an interesting development this week. cedric leighton for us, thank you so much as always. >> you bet, paula. still ahead for us, is it satire, or incitement? roger waters, the co-founder of the band pink floyd is under investigation in germany, why police are looking into the outspoken rock star, that's next.
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scott mclean picks up the controversy from there. >> reporter: this requires context on both sides. the costume is worn as part of a performance of the 1979 album "the wall" in which the protagonist a louis nates -- hallucinates he's a fascist dictator. instead of a swastika it has two crossed hammers, part of the imagery of that album. it is meant to be satire. something waters has been doing for decades now but it is the first time that's attracted a criminal investigation. the berlin police justified it by saying in part the context of the clothing worn is deemed capable of approving, glorifying or justifying the violent and arbitrary rule of the nazi regime in a manner that violates the dignity of the victims and thereby disrupts public peace. the performance has been controversial for a while, so much so that city officials in
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frankfurt tried to get the venue to cancel it this coming sunday. it ended up in a german courtroom. and according to the guardian the court ruled in waters' favor saying that though the performance uses symbolism manifestly based on that of the nationalist socialist regime it did not glorify the nazi racist ideology. after that court ruling and earlier this month waters went on a podcast where he responded to the criticism. listen. >> well, i can be allowed to do a show because it's theater, darling. the idea that nobody can dress up in a nazi uniform ever to do anything in a theater or film is ludicrous, obviously. >> and also, just so people know you don't dress up as him in a pro nazi way, it's a scathing critique. you are playing a villainous character. >> it's a parody.
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>> reporter: that explanation is not satisfying all of the critics, the israeli foreign ministry has been critical of his performance, and jewish groups will protest his concert in frankfurt on sunday. waters has been a very harsh critic of the israeli government, earlier this week he called the state of israel a tyrannical racist regime but he's consistently denied he's anti-semitic. scott mcclean, cnn, london. ♪ baby baby baby ♪ ♪ when you touch me like this ♪ ♪ when you hold me like that ♪ ♪ it was gone with the wind but it's all coming back to me ♪ >> that's celine dion, it's her 1996 hit song "all coming back to me now," the superstar is cancelling her courage world tour and will likely never perform again, and that is according to a source close to the singer. now, dion has what's known as stiff person syndrome. it is a rare and incurable
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condition that causes progressive body stiffness and muscle spasms. dion shared her disappointment in a twitter post friday saying, even though it breaks my heart, it's best that we cancel everything until i'm really ready to be back on stage. i'm not giving up, and i can't wait to see you again, and we certainly hope to see her again on stage. i'm paula newton, i want to thank you for your company. i'll be right back in just a moment with more "cnn newsroom." hi, i'm norma, d i lost 53 pounds on golo. when i started golo, i expected to plateau like i had so many other times.
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