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know, fire services, ems services managing them, that might help out. it also gives them a career path forward. let's go back and do junior lifeguard programs across the states and get people excited, learn to swim. and maybe that will help. >> you know, i just saw an adve tuesdaym advertisement for a junior lifeguarding program in my town. >> it's interesting. we talk about the labor shortage that clearly still exists in certain industries. lifeguarding being one of them. >> absolutely. i tell you, i keep seeing the notices every year. all of the camps and pools. they are in desperate need. >> wow. >> "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> they have a deal to raise the debt ceiling. >> it's remarkable. >> they're not cutting the deficit and they are not cutting
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spending. >> i strongly urge you both to pass that agreement. >> ukraine's military says just 70 aerial targets launched by russia in the latest onslaught. >> ukrainians are calling this the largest attacks using iranian drones. >> almost all of them were shot down. russia will only face defeat. >> turkey extends his power for a third decade. >> there is jubilation of triumph for erdogan. these are his most ardent supporters. >> this was potentially the closest electoral race and they still couldn't defeat him. >> ken paxton is calling his impeachment vote. the first attorney general in texas to be impeached. >> this is a case of republicans policing republicans in the state of texas. >> corruption has now been voted out. significant step for the
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integrity of the state. >> up side down! >> he's been eliminated! >> i started out as a fan in the crowd. everyone kept asking me why i won this race. they look at you like you're a failure. i'm so glad to be here. >> good morning, everyone. 7:00 a.m. hour. good to be with you. >> i'm erica hill. nice to have you with us. a lot happening over the weekend. >> i thought so. even for a monday. it's been busy so far. >> i know. a lot to discuss. and it is, of course, memorial day. as we observe this day where we honor and remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice. live pictures for you of the time of the unknown solar at arlington national cemetery. >> a day that many celebrate as the unofficial start to summer. but also always important to remember that a day of
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remembrance. >> president biden and kevin mccarthy reached a deal to raise the debt ceiling. they're racing to both sides of the aisle to back the plan. the house is set to vote on the plan just two days from now. >> you have to get a majority of republicans voting for this bill. this is a good bill for the american public. the president agreed with this bill. i think there are a lot of democrats that vote for it too. >> the house progressive caucus speaking out against new work requirements in the deal for food stamp recipients. >> it is really unfortunate that president opened the door to this and while tend of the day, you know, perhaps this will -- because of the exemptions, perhaps it will be okay. i can't commit to that. i don't know. >> they also pushed back against the deal saying it does not cut
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enough spending. key members tweeted, no republican capitulation and hold the line. >> as for the debt ceiling, they estimate that the government could run out of money to pay all of the debts on time. the so-called x state on june 5th. one week from today. our chief correspondent live for us on capitol hill. for those just waking up on a monday morning, we may not have been following this saturday and sunday. break down the deal for us. >> yeah. look, this was a hard fought negotiation. a negotiation that the white house didn't want to have to begin w remember, president biden for about three months, more than three months, just refused to sit down with kevin mccarthy. he demanded the debt ceiling be increased. $31.4 trillion debt ceiling be increased without any conditions, without any spending cuts. twharng would avert a fiscal disaster here. he had a different approach. he demanded spending cuts, a whole slew of conditions. the white house was forced to
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negotiate and make a range of concessions. that is angering both sides of the aisle, some liberals upset. and also some conservatives upset with the deal that mccarthy cut. a little bit about the deal. t suspension of the debt limit would expire in january of 2025. that caused concern on the right. they believe it should have been one year for allowing -- preventing them from fighting this again next year in an election year. also to make sure that veterans medical care is not impacted by the spending cuts that would have happened across the board. there is a essentially a defense programs, there is not a cut for defense. but it caused some concerns among defense hawks. they believe that they need to have more money for the pentagon. expect some push back from the right on that. there is also expand work requirements for food stamp recipients. that has caused a lot of angst on the left. there is a whole host offer issues such as cutting irs funding. that caused concern for democrats. that had some bipartisan support
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as part of this deal. and one thing to watch that could generate opposition from progressives is that it would actually expedite construction of a pipeline in west virginia. big priority for west virginia senator joe mansion. something that progressives in particular were upset about. what the white house is trying to tell democrats and they did last night and the two briefings with the house and senate democrats was they could have been a lot worse. one thing that did not make it in this bill is impose new work requirements for recipients of the medicaid health insurance program. it is low income. republicans pushed ford new work requirements for those recipients. that did not get in the bill. they also argued a whole host of other issues such as the president's reduction act was not cut as republicans had pushed for. this is the best we can get even as a lot of folks on the right saying those cuts should have been imposed and mccarthy should have demanded more and not given
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the president the debt limit suspension as it's in this current bill. causing a lot of angst on both sudz of the party. >> unpredictability. thank you. >> let's bring in our economics k commentator and max rose, a veteran of wart in afghanistan. nice to see you both. when we look at what is happening here, as he laid out for us, we know there is a lot of skepticism and angst on both sides of the aisle here. but we press people a lot. we say i need a yes or no answer. as you know all too well. and congress woman gave jake tapper a one-word answer. she said you should be worried about progressives. if the white house messaging is it could have been worse, is that really enough to convince progressives? >> it will be enough to pass.
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you have this incredibly fascinating dynamic right now. kevin mccarthy and joe biden and potentially also the leader of the democratic caucus will all be working in tandem together to pass this legislation. also because it in their political best interest. now with this bill, the administration has certainly cemented the fact that it is absolutely resolutely committed to bipartisanship and normalcy. they have boxed the republican party into this awful corner. by now the republican party has to advocate for increased spending. there is increased social service spending now within an expansion of snap benefits for he veterans as well as the homeless. on the other hand, the republican party can say that the democratic party did not get any priorities in there.
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there is negotiation that nobody is happy right now. but this will certainly pass and will pass because of moderates on both sides. >> let me bring knew the conversation. there is a lot of drama. there is a lot of noise. you say in a recent op-ed there that there is already harm done if we don't default. >> yes, i look at this deal and say how is it any different than what we would have reasonably expected to get from the usual annual appropriations process? it's really not that different. republicans didn't get the draconian cuts that they asked for. they didn't get the medicaid work requirements. that undermind the entire regulatory state. they got flat spending which again is what i would have expected coming out of the appropriations process.
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the question is, fine. what was it all for? we've gone through all of this drama. we have gone through economic turmoil. embarrassing ourselves on the world stage. biden having to cut the asia trip short. the g-7 being overshadowed by all of this. not to mention higher borrowing costs as a result of some market stresses. we ended up where we would have been had this episode never happened. on the one hand, i'm glad. we don't look like we're about to have financial apocalypse and that republicans didn't get all the other things in. what was the point? >> we could have avoided all of this. >> we talked about, in passing here at cnn, your -- how you feel about irs reform. that looks like the irs reform will receive as part of this bill. do you think it will be significant? >> they're cutting about a quarter of the funding that was
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appropriated to the irs last year. i think that is actually a bad thing. that money has a huge return on investment both because it means better customer services and taxpayers are happy eastern more voluntarily compliant. so i don't think this was a good place to cut money. it will expand deficits. that said, you know, they did some accounting gym youics. it doesn't look like it will effect the overhaul in the near term and more problem several years from now. ma making easier to cheat on taxes doesn't mean you could do and you really cared about getting deficits under control. they got some of that money back. how does this play to your point? look, if everybody is unhappy, i get this is a good negotiation. nobody comes out the winner
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here. >> there is a few major hurdles here in terms of selling it to legislators. kevin mccarthy has to get half of the caulk why us to support this before it even gets to the floor. and that whipping process it is known behind the scenes is not fact based. this deeply personal. of the speaker wants this. the leader wants this and the president wants this. get in line or else. >> typically republicans have done a good job of getting their caucus to fall in line. we're seeing something different here which is certainly play out when he was trying to get that gavel. >> sure. so he will be fine at getting, i believe, more than 50%. you already seen leaders in the moderate wing of that party. i would not call them moderate. let's say less extreme wing of
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that party expressing their support for this. with that being said, though, you know, the democratic party in that whipping process that we're seeing right now, what people will be upset by, yes, that is the policy. they're more upset. they're more upset about two other things. did we get anything out of this at our own priorities? democratic, core democratic priorities. they have victories. what did we get? i think there is certain angst around giving kevin mccarthy a win. they want to see the republicans show momentum around this, show they can pass this themselves or come somewhat close to it. democrats can start raising their hands and say that they'll go about doing this. of course, last to conclude, there is folks that want to turn this into a christmas tree as well. >> i don't want to rule out people thinking about amendments. how i can get my appropriation started with that? >> as you know all too well.
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>> thank you both. thank you for your service. >> happening right now, you are looking at new video. we'll show you this here. this is new video from davenport, iowa. we told you last hour about rescue effort that's under way. search teams that looking for possible missing residents this morning after part of this historic apartment building collapsed in that downtown area of devin port overnight. seven people have been rescued. many others injured. the mayor at this point says several people do remain missing and unaccounted for. >> our concerns is the structural stability of the building and trying to locate unac unaccounted for individuals. they entered the building again to do a secondary search and start with the rescue of the debris pile at the bottom of the building. we'll continue to do that until this operation is completed. >> so, there is no word yet it's too what caused that building to collapse. we are stand big though. there is a press conference scheduled for next hour.
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now to texas. the attorney general of texas is firing back after state lawmakers voted to impeach him. republican attorney general kevin paxton is calling the unprecedented move a, quote, politically motivated sham. the gop house of representatives vote to impeach him on saturday that showed that he participated in a pattern of corruption. but he insists he has done nothing wrong. cnn's reporter is live in dallas this morning. ed, paxton is temporarily suspended. what happens here? >> it was a stunning rebuke of this attorney general that has been elected by voters here in this state three times. he was just re-elected last year. and this really all stems from many allegations and controversies that have been swirling ash him for seven years much clearly, lawmakers here in the last few months in texas have had enough. that vote came to 121-23.
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a huge number of republicans voting to impeach ken paxton. 20 articles of impeachment in all which include charges of bribery, conspiracy, abuse of power, unfit for office. really stunning charges here that he now faces in the texas senate side. ken pachxton says the charges a politically motivated from the beginning by the texas house coalition of democrats and liberal republicans is now in lock step with the biden administration, the abortion industry and woke corporations to sabotage the work as attorney general. paxton here covering himself in the work that he's dn been doino try to win political capital here in the state. but democrats in those who voted for this impeachment say they've had enough of this attorney general. >> either this is going to be the beginning of the end of his
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criminal reign, or god help us with the harms that will come to all texans if he is allowed to stay the top cop. >> and, remember, these articles of impeachment were brought by republicans on texas house side republicans control virtually every lever of government here in this state. it really is a stunning development. >> stunning to point out. >> so what happens next for paxton? >> well, he has been temporarily removed from office. now they prepare for the trial on the texas senate side. this is where it becomes a little bit more interesting. there are 31 state senators here in the state. paxton's own wife is a state senator here in this state. there are 12 democrats in that -- on the senate side. so, there would need to be nine republicans, depending on what
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angel angela paxton does to convict ken paxton. we'll wait to see how this happens. there is no clear date on when this trial is going to take place. >> a lot to watch. happening in the state of texas. thank you. >> and coming up, russia launching the largest drone attack yet on ukraine's capital kyiv. here at home, it has been a violent and bloody memorial day weekend in the city of chicago. more than 35 people shot. nine of them killed. multiple shootings across the city. we'll take you there live for the latest. - this is our premium platinum coverage map
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overnight. the russian attacks come as ukraine nears the launch of this long awaited counter offensive we've been talking about. ukr ukrainian troops were preparing for battle and calling for a decisive offensive. mike lions, good to see you. so, when we talk about this, what would this potential counter offensive at this point, what would this look like? >> just look at a map. two separate locations. i believe any counter offensive is going to cut the russian forces in half here. and threaten crimea. i think that is the issue for the ukrainian forces. they're not doing that until they have the combined arms, shock infeffect, tanks, bradley fighting vehicles, more men, more equipment. russia still has setbacks, lost a lot of men. but they're still russia. they can go on the active
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defense. >> we have time on their side. they can wait it out a bit longer. in terms of the counter offensive and weather, weather plays a critical role in when we start to see that offensive. explain how weather plays into this. >> weather and terrain, it is a commander's assessment. on a ground war though, not like d-day, for example. weather really impacted the seas and the like. i think what you're going to see here, the soil. there is concern that, for example, images show that the soil is hardening up. that allows the tanks more mobility. they have the advantage, at the know the terrain. they know what the bridges are. they know where things are going. i think it's a small effect. >> i see. >> give us a sense of timing. are we approaching the right moment? >> yeah, we go back to that. and you have to say that, again,
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they're not going to put their troops in a situation where they're going to fail. they need to succeed. they do pick the time. they pick the place and location. i'm not sure they have enough troops ready to go. we haven't seen, for example, reports of massing of equipment in the areas in the south. we're here. we have a lot of reports about what is going on in this part here in the west. again, from my perspective, military perspective, i think this is where the counter offensive takes place. we don't have that equipment there yet. it's not ready to go. >> any sense of when it might be? i mean, the spring offensive, i think, strategically is really important for ukraine to be able to show that they can could this. >> let's say, let's give it another 90 days. you still have the crews, for example, some of the weapons systems, for example, tanks, abrams, these are the things that are going to make a difference. these are the shock effect that will make a difference on the ground. and they're just not -- they're training troops. they have troops in the united states still patriot missiles have been effective. the way ukraine wins is a
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combined arms fight. and synchronizing the troops. that takes time. >> on this memorial day, thank you as always for your service. it's also a special moment as we remember the sacrifices made. and also your son. we want to point out, he was just promoted. >> yeah. >> he's onboard the uss cole. tell us more about him and what he's doing. >> sure, the uss cole, that ship was attacked in october of 2000. the beginning of the global war on terror. we got to see it on fleet week. it went past the freedom tower there. the uss cole celebrates memorial day every day. there are 17 stars that exist on their side there where the attack took place. there is a soldier and a sailor gets down every day and make sure that stars are polished. they don't walk on those things. it shows, again, the level of sacrifice. and from my perspective, as a veteran and i ask folks today as a day of remembrance. just be reflective and be worthy of the sacrifice that has been made by those that came before
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us. so, it's something that we would like to remember. >> that's the reason we have this day. >> yep. thank you as always. >> thanks. >> three people killed, five wounded in a shooting at a motorcycle rally in new mexico. what officials believe was behind that violence. >> and you know the saying like a good neighbor, state farm is there. apparently not if you're in california. why the insurance company is halting home insurance sales in the state. we'll be right back. lactose. delicious too. just ask my old friend, kevin. nothing like enjoying a cold one while watching t the game. who's winning? we are, my friend. we are. (♪) this is the lexus variety of electrification... ♪ ♪ hit it ♪ ♪ it takes two toake a thing go right ♪
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a deadly holiday weekend in chicago. police say shoot agz cross the city left more than 35 people wounded. many of them innocent you about standers of the shot, nine have died from the injuries. adrian is live in chicago this morning. what more are you hearing from the community? >> well, eric yashgs good morning. right now we know the number of people who have been killed over the weekend. at least nine. we do not have their names. but we do know that the victims, some of the shooting victims, i
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should say, as young as 16. more than 35 people were shot this holiday weekend. and here in the community, people are hoping for safer summer more brandon johnson, the city's new mayor. >> it's going take all of us. not just the police. not just city government to ensure that our communities can live and thrive in peace and safety. >> he want everyone to be safe and enjoy the city. we'll not tolerate any engaging of criminal activity or disorderly contact. to our residence, please be safe and make safe choices. >> so, this morning, people are waking up with some tough news. more than 30 35 people have been shot since friday. at 5:00 p.m., that's when the chicago police department started keeping that data. more than 35 shot. nine people have died in those
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shootings, again, occurred between friday afternoon to sunday morning. erica? >> adrian, appreciate it. thank you. >> and at least three people are dead and five others wounded after gunfire erupted. this happened at a biker rally at red river, new mexico. this drowse tens of thousands to the area for memorial day weekend. this man, jacob david castillo is charged with murder. the confrontation is what is behind the shootings. >> we're being told it was over somebody taking a picture with a different gang. something as stupid as that. >> state police chief also says that several other suspects are also in custody. >> state farm stopping home insurance sales in the state of california. why? the company citing in part rapidly growing that catastrophe
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risks. a decision, that decision went knee infect over the weekend. according to the company though, it does not impact personal auto insurance. cnn reporter hear with us now. so, matt, walk us through this decision. what does this really mean for folks? >> well, this is a big deal. state farm is not some tiny player in california. it's actually the state's biggest home insurer. and now they are retreating in california. they cited three specific reasons, one, skyrocketing rebuilding costs. that is a particular will you big problem. california has a wildfire problem. and these first two issues have made it hard for insurance companies to get reinsurance which is a way for insurance company to pass on risk. it's kind of like insurance for and insurance companies. now here's what state farm says in a statement. it's in toes take the actions now to improve the company's financial strength. now let's look at the inflation part of this story. that is this shows producer prices for construction materials.
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you can see since 2000, inflation was riding steadily. then, boom, 2020 hit. it's going straight up. and this is just materials. it doesn't even include labor. now we know california has a wildfire problem. look at this. 7,000 plus wildfires. that's per year. and this -- these fires have consumes more than 2 million acres. again, per year. if you look at the worst, the most destructive california wildfires, three of them, 2018, 2020, 2017, three of them have occurred in just the last six years. the campfire in 2018 was not just the state's deadliest wildfire ever, it was also the most expensive n fact, the most expensive natural disaster in the entire world. it's not the first one to pull back in that state.
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>> that's right. aig dropped thousands of some of their home insurance clients in the last year. they have done the same. and now state farm, listen, i think for the longest time, wildfires were just a cost of doing business in california. but now increasingly, home insurers decided it's not worth the risk. the problem for consumers is all of this means less competition. fewer choices. and unfortunately, higher prices. >> matt eagan, we appreciate it. thank you. now to new video that shows what happened after a speeding car in florida plowed into the waters off the beach. take a look at this. witnesses reported this car going about 50 miles an hour nearly hitting several families and their dogs on the beach. and just missing a child on its way into the water. the driver, a 26-year-old orlando woman has been charged with dui and also reckless driving. police say her blood alcohol was nearly twice the legal limit.
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what a close call. >> states across the country, they see more and more books being banned at schools and local libraries. law makers are fighting back. legislation to protect against book bans. we'll speak to those lawmakers next. >> very much looking forward to that conversation. before we go to break though -- ♪ ♪ nobody loves me he's just a poor boy ♪ >> definitely not a poor boy. a source telling cnn discussions are well under way for universal music group to purchase queen's catalog to the tune of more than a billion dollars. if that deal goes through, it will be the biggest single artist catalog sale in history. this is more than doubles bruce springsteen's $500 million sale in 2021. justin bieber, the state of david bowen and sting have completed sales of their respective music catalogs as well. so this deal, expected to close within a month.
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welcome back. book bans are on rise in schools across america. just last week, president biden's inauguration, remember this it was moved out of the elementary section of a miami-dade public school. that is after a parent complaint and school review. and in iowa, governor just signed a law that will restrict education about gender identity and sexual orientation and also ban books with certain sexual content if school libraries. similar laws restricting certain types of books in libraries recently gone into effect in other states. the free speech organization reports that there were more book bans during the fall of 2022 semester than in each of the prior two semesters. the ban's were most prevalent in states like texas, florida, missouri, utah, and south carolina. but in at least one state, law
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makers are actually pushing back. new legislation in new jersey would protect against the banning of books in public libraries and schools and if passed, any library that bans books could see the funding cut. joining us now are the two democratic state senators who introduced the bill. thank you both for being with us. why does you decide to interdue t -- introduce this bill. >> i grew up in school with books. my mom was a high school english teacher and talked about the importance of ideas, reading books, learn what is going on around the world around us. when i talked to a library in the district i represent that talked about how she stood up to the censorship and the bullying and the harassment she received i knew it was time for us to do something about this in new jersey. this is memorial day. people sacrificed our freedom of expression, speech and ideas.
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>> it is interesting to see t hostility geared towards librarians. i want to get to you. what book banning efforts are we seeing specifically in new jersey? and what do you this i is driving it? >> so, clearly, at the top of the segment you indicated texas and florida. new jersey is not immune to. this right now you see school board meetings inundated with with this concept of getting rid of books. you see this complete hate. if someone doesn't want something read in their household that, is your own private ideology. it should not be bled into public spaces. it is important as a puerto rican woman, so many times we were annotation, and people are putting books on shelves and seeing ourselves on different pages and spaces to see this rise up again in the 2023, it's
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time for us to stop. >> i want to read for you. it's no the without criticism and controversy. one republican state senator said i strongly zbdisagree that all books should or must be available in every public school without regard to age appropriateness. a middle school student shouldn't be reading "50 shades of grey" or ow gender queer." is that wrong? >> our libraries are public spaces where people should go in and have freedom thoughts and opportunities to explore. there are independent right to exercise what they believe is appropriate for their own family. >> let's not forget in, school libraries, libraryians are chewsing what are the appropriate books that should be in a -- choosing what are the appropriate books to be in the library. the premise is wrong when it comes to schools and libraries in our schools. >> but what about the concern that in proposing this type of legislation and cutting funding that essentially that you're taking the choice away just in a
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different way from librarians and local communities to decide what is best for them? >> this is a minority that is really pushing this agenda. we shouldn't have a ten people out size what 10,000 and ten million people feel in this country and in our state. i think it's our responsibility and our right to be sure that those public spaces are protected. >> this is the opposite, right? this is a small well organized group of people. but this is about the freedom to read. this is about the ability for a parent to say, hey, i want you to read this book or i don't want you to read this book. right? our job right now is to make sure that these abilities to read and parental choice to happen f you're concerned about a book in a library, i would urge you to talk to your child also about what they're seeing online. it is so much worse online than what we're seeing in a book. >> or on television. >> or on television, right. >> "the washington post" analysis found that books about lgbtq are quickly becoming the
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biggest target and a large percentage of the complaints are from very small but hyperactive group of adults. is that also the case in new jersey? we have seen that in other parts of the country. is that also what is happening in new jersey? >> i was going to say, absolutely. and just be clear, 40%st books being challenged right now are lgbtq themes. another 40% have characters of color. what happened is the a small group of people are enflaming people and making it more devisive. in new jersey and around the country. in a time we need to be more inclusive. >> we saw it firsthand in he is sex county. the number of people that wanted to eliminate books you could count on your hands and the community that came out in support of those public freedoms outweighed that minority. >> do you have enough support to get this through? >> absolutely. >> i believe so. >> absolutely. >> we'll be watching. senators, thank you both. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. a tentative deal on the debt
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year. walk us through how you are honoring them and why this has become such an important way to do that for you. >> well, first of all, good morning and thank you for continuing this tradition. this started somewhat as that fluke about six years ago on cnn, when i first joined you all as a military analyst. and i was mentioning this box that three of us have. general dempsey and general stap rat ty and myself. and it started in 2003. as general dempsey is our division commander when we were in iraq, started making cards at memorial services. and in this box, if i were to open it up, you would see -- there's the picture of it, is 253 cards, which i have, from multiple combat tours of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and allies that served under me and made the ultimate sacrifice during our tours in combat. and on a daily basis, i open that box, i have it here on my
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desk, and pick out one or two cards and think about where they would be today. you know, some of these things occurred 10, 20 years ago, in some cases, in 2003. and these young 20-year-olds who are frozen in time with their pictures would have been now in their 40s or maybe even early 50s in some cases, would have had a family around them, and on the top of the box, we all imprinted something called "make it matter." and we always thought when we got together after these memorial services that it was our duty to live on for those that were sacrificed for their country and defending their country. and that's just a daily tradition that i have and it's especially pointed on this moifrld. >> and it's a beautiful tradition and we're so honored you would share it with us and everyone at home. tell us about some of those soldiers there. >> yeah, i picked out a couple
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this morning and some of these, i don't really know who i picked before in some of our hits, but there were four specifically, two from the 2003/2004 tour that we had in baghdad and then two more from my time as a division commander of the first army division task force iron in 2007 and '08 in northern iraq. jonathan fallinico, a young private, was killed in action in october of 2003. this is his picture. you see it there on the screen. he was the son of one of our sergeants majors, who actually just died a few months ago himself. but jonathan was a brand-new soldier. he had just arrived from basic training and his father had to escort him back to germany where they picked up his mother and then escort the body, something that no father should be asked to do, on to arlington.
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another picture from 2004 was of second lieutenant lenny cowherd. and i actually met him when he was a cadet at west point. he was in one of the history classes with my son, our oldest -- our youngest son. excuse me. our youngest son introduced me to him, took him to dinner at gettysburg when they were doing a staff ride. and just a few months after he was commissioned, he was killed in action by a sniper's bullet when we were extended in iraq. the next one is staff sergeant cartlita davis. who was a young mother from alaska. she had a bunch of children and one of her soldiers was sick on a day he was supposed to go out on a patrol. so she volunteered to take his place. and unfortunately, that patrol was hit by several ieds, and staff sergeant davis was killed in action. and then the final one is a very difficult one for me, because
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it's corporal luke runyon who lived in germany. my wife was in germany at the time. most of us had deployed from there. he had a young family back in graphenbier, and he had just reenlisted to stay in the army after talking to our sergeant major and he was killed in a small arms assault against al qaeda terrorists. so these are some of the 253 that are in this box. every one of them has a picture that are frozen in time. they could have been, we don't know. we don't know where their life would have taken them, but each one of them are responsible for us living in freedom. and that's the kind of thing that we should be thinking about on memorial day. >> you showed us the top of your box, it says, make it matter. you wrote in an opinion piece for cnn a few years ago about how we as americans can do that, how we can make it matter. and you wrote, how we can earn it.
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so on this memorial day, how would you recommend that americans make it matter. that they show that they've earned it, earned this freedom that so many fought and ultimately died for? >> you know, erica, it's interesting, because i realized for the first time this year that i'm decades away from the time i've served. these young soldiers are fading into the background. i worked with an organization called the american battle monuments commission, which is celebrating at 26 semitcemeteril over the world outside of the united states, commemorating memorial day today. and what's interesting is, whereas those pictures and those faces fade in history, we can continue to contribute to memorial day by saying how do we make this a better country. how do we solve the divisiveness that currently exists in our society. and realize that we all sacrifice for our nation's values, which are respect for one another, loyalty to something that's bigger than ourselves, the ability to see
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other people as coming together and being part of a greater whole. and i think memorial day has turned a little bit away from just remembering those who gave the ultimate sacrifice into a day where we can thank, as living memories, of how do we make it better. how do we make it matter for our fellow citizens. what you're seeing now is pictures of the various cemeteries overseas. that's normdy there. you saw a tombstone. that's mar groton in the netherlands where every single one of those 8,000 graves are adopted by local citizens, who celebrate the freedom that american service members gave them in world war ii. you saw a tombstone being replaced, a across being replaced by a star of david as something called operation benjamin, when jewish soldiers went into the war in world war ii, they would scratch off their religious preference, because if they were captured by the nazis,
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they were afraid of what would happen. those tombstones are now being replaced with stars of david by a group that understands that those jewish soldiers should be respected as well. so these are all things that are part of our dialogue today. the respect for one another, the bringing our nation forward. so that's what i would ask everybody to think about on this memorial day. >> lieutenant general mark hertling, thank you as always for sharing this tradition with us, for sharing those words with us, and of course, for your service. we appreciate you and every day. >> thank you. thanks. the next hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. it's off to smart for the seventh game. tipped in, but the buzzer sounded. it will be reviewed. >> i don't think he got that in in time. >> oh, they're saying on the floor -- they're counting it! the celtic
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