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serves and stands as a force for good in the world. and just as they've kept the ultimate faith to our country, to our democracy, we must keep the ultimate faith to them, together we're not just the fortunate inheritors of their legacy, we must be the keeper of their mission. the bearers of the flame of freedom. it kept burning bright for nearly 247 years. that, that's the truest memorial to their lives. >> we remember all those who paid the ultimate price for our freedom and thank them for their sacrifice. eas "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, a russian onslaught nearly 100 strikes across ukraine as chaos and
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panic consume the capital but tonight russia bracing for ukraine to retaliate. plus, biden and mccarthy have a deal to raise the debt ceiling but does the house speaker have the votes? i'll talk to one republican congressman who is dead set against the agreement. why? and ron desantis says he wants to, quote, destroy leftism but is that a winning message on the campaign trail? let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm pamela brown in for erin burnett. welcome to a special edition of "outfront" tonight. a swift retaliation, russia's bell b b area under attack. russia firing off nearly 100 missiles and drones over the past 24 hours and of those ukraine knocking down 7. this is a major blow to putin.
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and tonight the president is th thanking them for saving lives. [ speaking non-english ] >> patriots, in the hands of ukrainians ensures that 100% of russian missiles will be intercepted. and terror is losing. >> there are places that are susceptible to russia's strikes. this is new video of a strike on a town just outside of bakhmut. the strike hit a gas station killing two people and injuring eight. missiles russia is using according to forbes cost millions apiece. and russia is having to rely on them more and more as its forces have been severely defeated. fred pleitgen is in kyiv and air raid sirens were going off. what has it been like on the
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ground? >> reporter: hi there, pamela. there were pretty severe drone and missile attacks by the russians and they pretty much came in two waves. one was overnight using cruise missiles and drones and the ukrainians say their air defenses shot most of those down. later in the morning there were ballistic missile attacks and the ukrainians said of those shot they managed to take all out but nevertheless, of course, for the folks who live in the city there were frightening moments. here's what happened. terrified children running for their lives as russia unleashed another massive aerial attack on ukrainian cities but ukraine says its air defense managed to shoot down all the ballistic missiles fired at the capital, kyiv, and now ukraine's forces seem nearly ready for their own much anticipated counteroffensive. this weekend, ukraine's top general, valeriy zaluzhnyy
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releasing this video showcasing modern western weapons with a clear message, it's time to take back what's ours. [ speaking non-english ] >> reporter: that's what these guys are training for. this is a unit of the offensive guard from ukraine's interior ministry. we have a clear motivation, the commander says. we defend our land. this is our nation, our homeland. the offensive guard is mustering tens of thousands of troops, they say, training to storm trenches and evacuate casualties which they know they're bound to have in the tough battles ahead. what these guys are practicing, no doubt, will become a reality for the ukrainian armed forces very soon as kyiv says it will start a massive counteroffensive to take back all of their territory including crimea. the ukrainians are already seem to be stepping up strikes on possible russian supply lines in occupied areas. russian installed officials
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claiming ukrainian missile attacks against targets around mariupol in southeastern ukraine in the past days. it's just the beginning, a top adviser to ukraine's presidency tells me. [ speaking non-english ] everything that is happening now is a precursor for a counterattack, a necessary precursor where the intensity of fire increases. [ speaking non-english ] and he lays out bold aims for the counteroffendive. it will end undoubtedly on the borders of ukraine as they were in 1991 with the deoccupation of crimea and with the beginning of a massive process of transformation of russia's political system. but for now resilience remains key for the people in ukraine cities, these newlyweds just tied the knot on their way to their celebration when the air raid sirens went off. so they just continued to celebrate in the bomb shelter vowing not to let russian rockets ruin the best day of
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their lives. and, you know, pamela, that is the resilience we see from a lot of people here in kyiv, of course, when the sirens go off, the folks, they do run to the shelters and run for cover, however, they emerge pretty quickly after the all clear comes in and go about their daily lives and go straight back to work and one of the things that the head of ukraine's military intelligence said today, look, if the russians believe they can scare the people in ukraine and kyiv specifically they certainly are mistaken, pamela. >> well, thank you, fred. "outfront" now, former russian prime minister mccail serving as prime minister when vladimir putin first became president, thank you for joining us. so you worked alongside putin for a number of years. when you see this new massive assault of missiles by russia into ukraine, what do you think putin is trying to do right now? >> i think mr. putin and his inner circle, they demonstrating
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their nervousness. they expecting ukrainian counteroffensive operation and they are nervous about it and they're trying to somehow to prevent it but people all over the world are just cannot keep patience on and everyone in the west, we hope russians hoping success of the counteroffensive operation. >> ukraine meantime, appears to be stepping up attacks in russian occupied territories. we have seen a number of attacks by pro-ukrainian groups inside russia. what impact do those attacks have on putin and the russian public? >> i think, of course, it's not admitted by government, but these, of course, operations on the territorial russia, of
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course, demonstrating some kind of weakness of border control of russia or russian authorities and, of course, creating some kind of fear among russian army and population and also administration. just as demonstration that russia is not protected so much as putin just declared for the case, that security and stability is the major, major point for his strategy, but right now just demonstration that is not the case. >> do you see a point at which putin will be willing to negotiate in good faith? >> in good faith, it's interesting expression, good faith, putin wants to negotiate right now, but he doesn't want to withdraw troops from occupied territories. he wants to stop. he needs cease-fire so that to
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restructure the army and economy facing problems. >> let's just take a step back for a second. when you look at and listen to putin now, how is he different, if at all, from the person that you worked with back in the early 2000s? >> oh, completely different person. at that time when we worked together, at first he is charmed. he promised to me and my cabinet that he would support all the reforms. in fact, he implemented this promise with the exclusion of two reforms. he didn't allow me to undertake administrative reform, which means reduction of state enrollment in the public life, et cetera, and didn't allow me to pursue the second reform which means just to destroy gas supplies, but at that time we now understand he pretended to
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be democratically devoted person, in fact, he was always a kgb agent and right now he performs as he is a natural person, putin's kgb agent. >> thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and now "outfront" retired army general mark hertling of the 7th army. you heard there from the former prime minister, kasyanov saying that shows how nervous putin is about the coming offensive. from a military standpoint, what would russia be trying to do with those strikes? >> they're trying to interfere with their connection between the political body and the decision makers in the kyiv government, president zelenskyy with his field generals, general zaluzhnyy. there's been messaging on the internet saying that president
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zelenskyy has approved that plan. now i think russia is really -- it's not just going after ukraine as former prime minister k kasyanov said but more to interfere with the command and control structure between the political leaders of kyiv and the front lying generals all along the front line. >> and there's reporting out there we talked about earlier in the show where some of these missiles they're useing are millions of dollars apiece. this is precious arsenal for russia. what do you make of that? >> well, it certainly is for russia and they are running out of these missiles, but they've been reports they've been running out for a long time. you happened to mention some of these missiles cost millions of dollars. the missiles that shoot them down also cost millions of dollars between 3 and 4 million a copy so it really is a race to logistics and a race to technological advantage and i think what happened last night with the drone strikes accompanying missile strikes in the evening and further
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ballistic missiles during the day, again, it's russia attempting to template what ukraine is doing in their defensive positions and then trying to get the faster moving missiles, the more damaging missiles into the capital city. so it's a tactic. you know, we're hearing reports of 90 missiles or whatever. but the way they're being shot into the different locations in ukraine, russia is attempting to interfere with the command and control structure as well as troop movements within ukraine. it's a back and forth and can't be the big tactic of, hey, we're shooting a lot of missile. >> with the patriot missiles, as you'll recall there was so much back and forth and reluctance from the biden administration to send the patriot missiles. now they're over there and zelenskyy says they're using them and they're saving lives. if you had the bird's-eye view of ukraine, what clues would you be looking for to see if ukraine was about to start its offensive? >> well, you know, there's a strategic objective that president zelenskyy has and he
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has given that to his military commanders and over the last several months and weeks, they have been shaping the battlefield. we've used that term multiple times on here. now it's time for the military commanders to come back to the president and say, hey, look, boss, we have looked at the battlefield. here's where the russians are weak. here's where we need to be strong. let's start moving forces from their logger areas in the rear of ukraine into their attack positions so i think what we'll see in the next couple of days and weeks is a lot of movement of ukrainian forces, they are going to try and hide that movement the best they can and at the same time they're going to try to deceive russia for where they are going and what activities they'll use so a lot is like a chessboard. both sides are playing chess, trying to beat the other one to get to the right position so they can conduct the kind of offensive and defensive operations they need. >> all right, always great to talk to you, general hertling, thanks so much. >> thanks. is mccarthy's deal to raise
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the debt ceiling about to implode? one republican now threatening to derail the agreement. why? plus, ron desantis stepping up his attacks on trump now accusing the former president of siding with his powerful adversary. >> he's taken the side of disney in our fight down here in florida. i'm standing for parents. and showdown in texas. the republican-led house votes to impeach the state's republican attorney general. now all eyes on the female lawmaker who could help decide his own fate, his own wife. we'll be right back. okay. i'll work on that. save 50% on the sleep number limited edition smart bed,d, plus, special financing and free home delivery whenen you add any base. only at sleep number. and there he is. chaz. the rec league's self-crowned pickleball king. do you just w down? no you de-thrown the king. pedialyte. 3x the electrolytes.
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new tonight president biden saying he is optimistic the bipartisan deal to raise the debt ceiling and avoid the nation's first ever default will make it across the finish line. you know i never say i'm confident with the congress and what they'll do but i feel good about it. there is no reason why it shouldn't be get done by the 5th. i'm confident that we'll get a vote in both houses and we'll see. >> so this bill would suspend the debt limit through january 1st, 2025. it would roll back nondefense discretionary spending to 2022 levels, expand work requirements for some adults receiving food stamps and claw back about 30 billion in unused covid relief funds. this as a key republican in the house is warning it will not be easy for house speaker mccarthy
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to move forward with this bill. lauren fox is "outfront" on capitol hill so, lauren, where do things stand right now on the republican side? >> reporter: well, throughout the day there has been a furious whip operation on both the republican and democratic sides as both sides of leadership are trying to lock down the votes that they're going to need, pam. but we'll see a key test tomorrow. that is when the house rules committee is going to convene and already two conservatives who serve on that committee and were placed there as part of the agreement to have kevin mccarthy become speaker, they are warning that they are opposed to this legislation and all eyes are going to be on whether or not they back this proposal in the rules committee. those members, ralph norman and chip roy, we are also going to be keeping a close eye on thomas massie. he could be the tiebreaker in that vote. if it does make it out of the house rules committee it will then go to the house floor as soon as wednesday. that's when i am told leadership and republicans are expecting
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they could get about 150 republican members supporting this bill. they're working to lock up that support, but obviously that would be a huge number, a majority of the majority, something that kevin mccarthy, the house speaker has been promising since he announced this deal on saturday night. he could deliver, pam. >> all right, could have a busy week ahead, lauren fox, thanks so much. "outfront" now, republican congressman bob good of virginia. he is part of the house freedom caucus and sits on the house budget committee. he previously opposed raising the debt ceiling in 2021. his first year in congress. thank you for your time, congressman, so you and congressman roy were on the same page in criticizing and opposing this bipartisan deal to raise the debt ceiling and avoid a default. do you think there is enough opposition on your side to kill it? >> well, i certainly hope so. the greatest mariment of whether or not this is a good bill is does it place us closer to an eventually true default on our national debt meaning we can no longer service our debt, borrow
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money, pay our obligation, does the hurt the country fiscally and it does. it will increase the debt limit in the national debt some $3 trillion, $4 trillion by january of '25. it's basically flat on spending and doesn't contain real spending reforms or cuts like we had so i hope there won't be republican support for it and hope we can kill it whether it's in the rules committee or the republican conference before we bring it to the floor and go back to a bill that will cut spending and reform our congress is to save our country fiscally. >> the treasury secretary said june 5th is the date when the nation could default in the country doesn't pay back money that it has borrowed. how is this good? how would it be good for the american people for your own constituents if the country defaulted, which is what could happen if republicans and democrats for that matter but if speaker mccarthy doesn't get the votes to get this bill passed?
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>> well, the quick answer is there's not going to be a default if we don't pass it. it takes $70 billion a month to pay the interest on the debt which is what -- >> you're saying the treasury secretary is lying when she says the u.s. will default on june 5th? >> it takes $70 billion a month to pay the interest on the debt to prevent us from having a default. we have about $400 billion coming into the treasury. the problem is that we spend ab $500 billion on an average monthly basis. when we exhaust the measures which she says will be june 5, then we would no longer be able to fund that $100 billion gap but that would not be a default. it's complicated. it's problematic, the longer it goes on, but we shouldn't fear that that there's some catastrophe that hits june 5th. that's not true. we should pass a good bill that cuts our spending, puts reforms in place so that we don't absolutely default down the road. we're at near paying a trillion dollars a month in interest just
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to service the debt. the american people owe $100,000 a person on our national debt of 32 trillion and this bill will make it worse by taking us to 25 -- >> the bottom line and i know it gets complicated june 5th and the bottom line is, janet y yellen, the treasury secretary said it would be a global economic catastrophe if the u.s. defaults. if the u.s. doesn't pay up june 5th, if a deal isn't reached. why not focus on the spending cuts and so forth at the time when congress does that, when congress looks over the spending for the country, looks at the president's spending bill and has nose negotiations and discussions, why use this time now when it comes to the debt ceilinging to try to have that discussion? why insert that into this rather than waiting for the spending bill discussions. >> great question and the reason why we have 32 trillion in
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national debt and that has to be a big part of the conversation every time we talk about it because both parties have been complicit in getting us here. yes, democrats are better at spending than republicans are but republicans have been complicit in this as well and just like joe biden when he was in the senate voted for conditions on the debt ceiling increase, eight times in the last 35 years we have negotiated some spending cuts, they've always been in context or in conjunction with a debt ceiling increase. this is not new or uncharted territory. what is new and uncharted our debt to gdp is 125%. that's the highest debt to gdp we've had since world war ii and what we have to show for it we didn't just conquer imperial china or nazi germany to achieve that level of debt, there's no reason for us to have this level of debt. we've got to cut our spending to save the country and this bill simply does not do it. it makes it worse. >> but the bottom line is you -- so this is clearly the hard-liners that the far right hard-liners in the house that are coming out and strongly
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opposing this bill and we're waiting to hear from more progressive democrats that, is for certain but you -- the republicans have a very slim majority in the house, right? democrats have a slim majority in the senate. you have a democrat in the white house. compromise, negotiation, that's part of the deal with divided government as there is right now. i mean, why aren't you willing to compromise more and to negotiate more? what it sounds like you're being an obstructionist here. >> well, the american people gave the house republicans a majority when we ran on fiscal responsibility. >> very slim majority. >> we ran on cutting spending and the american people gave us that majority. >> but this does cut spending? >> we spent 90 days negotiating a debt ceiling increase when the senate, white house were m.i.a. and most didn't want to raise the debt limit. we wanted to cut spending so much and very few republicans currently in congress have ever voted for a debt ceiling increase however we came together with reasonable reforms and reasonable cuts, none of which, by the way, the democrats
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can defend being against, that's why they lied about the bill. they said we were cutting veterans' benefits, we were cutting social security, medicare because they couldn't defend the real provisions in the bill but this -- if this bill is a terrible bill instead of rescinding -- >> let me stop you there so our viewers can keep up. just to be clear, in the deal that was struck between the white house and speaker mccarthy, there are cuts, there's 136 billion in cuts. "the new york times" had an analysis that over ten years, nearly a trillion dollars in spending cuts could come from this. we're waiting to find out the official estimate from the cbo. there are differences in what house republicans previously passed and this. the house gop deal limited spending growth for a decade compared to two years under this agreement. the house gop bill included work requirements for medicaid and would have pulled back 80 billion in funding for the irs. so, yes, you are not getting everything you wanted. but, again, isn't compromise necessary here? i mean, look, president biden
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had been saying that he wanted a clean debt ceiling bill and now, look, there's a deal that was struck with speaker mccarthy, why aren't you willing and other members of the freedom caucus willing to negotiate and compromise more, especially given the fact that there are cuts, there are compromises that are favorable for republicans and also for democrats in this deal? >> we've budget running about a from and a half deficit the last couple of years. we've got trillions of dollars in problems and, frankly the cuts that are being talked about are being overstated. you've only got two years of spending caps in place. we wanted ten years in spending caps. do you have an additional six years -- excuse me, additional four years not enforceable and pay go for the administrative staff but the budget director can look on section 265 of the bill says the budget director can just waive those if he deems those necessary or essential and there's no judicial challenge and cuts $12 billion but then it
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has $30 billion in spending increase. >> why not wait to talk about the spending when the spending bill comes to congress? why use this? >> we need to do that too but the democrats have demonstrated unless you have leverage to force them, they're not going to agree to any spending cuts and democrats don't want any spending cuts. too many republicans are compromising on the issue but at least we are trying -- >> democrats in this have compromised on spending cuts, which has been an issue for progressive democrats. >> goes to $7 trillion for the first time ever and would run a $2 trillion deficit this year for the first time ever. >> okay. >> that's where the democrats are on spending. >> again, there's compromise negotiation on both sides, democrats and republicans in the deal. we'll have to wait and see. big meeting tomorrow on the house rules committee. we'll follow it. congressman good, thanks for coming on the show for your time and sharing your point of view on this. >> thank you, great to be with you, pam. "outfront" next, ron desantis kicking off his campaign by vowing to, quote, destroy leftism in the country. it may play well to his base but
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think a multibillion dollar company that sexualizes children is not consistent with the values of florida or the values of a place like iowa. >> desantis referring to disney's opposition of florida's controversial law restricting the teaching of sexual orientation and gender identity from kindergarten through third grade. this as desantis is just hours away from kicking off his first campaign stop since announcing his candidacy. starting tomorrow and wednesday in iowa then to new hampshire on thursday and south carolina on friday. "outfront" now republican strategist duck hye and karen finney for hillary clinton's presidential campaign in 2016, great to see you both. thanks for making time. doug, you knew desantis from your time working in the house. i say knew loosely. he is a former congressman and now desantis is running for a big campaign kickoff clearly in the key early states where he'll want to contrast himself with trump but trump has a lot of support in the gop.
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is this a wise move on desantis' part to attack trump right out of the gate? >> you know, i'll be honest, i don't know if it's the wise move or not but it's the necessary move. what we've seen as people try to draw comparisons between 2016 and 2024 and talk about there are too many candidates in all of this. the reality is it's a different race. donald trump starts as the favorite and what that means is you're not going to win the republican nomination by going around donald trump. you've got to take him on directly. it may or may not be successful but if you don't do that, you're guaranteed to fail so desantis coming out of the gate after absorbing blows from trump for a long time when desantis wasn't yet a candidate starting in this posture is the necessary posture. no one is smart enough to tell you whether or not it's going to be successful. what we've learned is a lot of the political gravity how we define things don't apply to donald trump but desantis is doing the necessary thing to take him on directly. >> karen, i want to play something else desantis said after he asked why he's running now. here he is.
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>> everyone knows if i'm the nominee, i will beat biden and i will serve two terms and i will be able to destroy leftism in this country and leave woke ideology on the dust bin laden of history. >> hmm. what do you make of him saying he's running for president to, quote, destroy leftism? >> you know, look, he is trying to be a carbon copy of donald trump in that his campaign and his candidacy is based on grievance politics, divisiveness and extreme policies and i think the reality is the american people have already soundly rejected that both in 2020 and 2022. that's the strategy he's decided is going to be effective in the general election. however, some of that very same extremism is not going to play well in a general election context, not just because of the issues, but core american values, i think, where people will just disagree, for example,
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women should have the right to make our own decisions about our health care or when it comes to gun safety, i don't think people will agree permitless carry is a good idea. nor will they think that a governor who decided to take his own personal grievance and grudge match against disney and cost the state millions of jobs and revenue is that really the same? we know donald trump is that kind of leader, that personalistic leader. do we really need another one of them? i don't think so. i think people will reject it. >> what do you think, doug? >> karen has laid out every reason that ron desantis can't be elected president and she can probably lay out every reason every other republican can't be but the reality is most likely they're running against joe biden and every poll number we see of his is low. lower than donald trump's numbers were which is something i wouldn't have thought and as we approach this election we also think there is an "r" word that may pop up called recession which means that ron desantis
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can beat joe biden and probably any other republican possibly can. doesn't mean they will but can and the other thing i think is interesting of what desantis said which sort of gets lost in the shuffle of defeat leftism and the wokism and all of that, he says he can serve two terms so what is he doing there? he's saying that donald trump is too old to serve as president and he's also saying that donald trump won't be able to serve two terms. he's telling the base, i'm in this for the long haul and that's a potentially convincing argument, again, going after donald trump directly. he does it sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly. >> i'm going to talk about the age thing. go ahead, karen. >> i was going to say, again, i think the core issue here that desantis represents that maybe some of the others don't where there could be a little more of a give and take, again, the extremism of many of his policies which are so unpopular with vast majorities of the american public. 8 in 10 americans support roe v. wade. that's not a good general election message to say six-week abortion ban which is what ron
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desantis did in florida. so there are some things that are very specific to his agenda that we already know are wildly unpopular and people will want to stand with joe biden and kamala harris. >> all right, thank you both so much. great to see you again. "outfront" next, texas republican attorney general ken paxton impeached by his own party. now everyone is looking to one woman who could help decide his fate. his wife, a state north. and growing interest tonight about the future of senator dianne feinstein after a report reveals the 89-year-old senator is having to rely on her staff more and more. we'll be back. y different. (other money manager) different how? you sell high commission investmentnt products, right? (fisher investments)s) nope. fisher avoids them. (other money manager) well, , you must earn commissios on trades. (fisher investments) never at f fisher. (other money manager) ok, then you probably sneak in some hidden and layered fees. (fisher investments) no. we structure our fees so we do better when our clients do better. that might be why most of our clients come from other money managers.
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the texas state senate is holding articles of impeachment against republican attorney general ken paxton who is currently suspended from his duties after being impeached for abusing his office. state senators now preparing to sfart start his trial and one of those lawmakers tasked can deciding his fate will be his own wife. ed lavendera is outfront. >> i am directed by the house of representatives to present to the senate the articles of impeachment preferred against warren kenneth paxton jr. >> reporter: a historic moment in texas politics, the 12 texas house representatives who will present the impeachment case
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against attorney general ken paxton helped formally deliver the articles of impeachment to the texas senate late this afternoon. the day after texas lawmakers impeached ken paxton he shared these photos on social media saying there's nothing better than a weekend spent with loved ones. there was no love from an overwhelmingly bipartisan collection of texas house lawmakers who voted 121-23 to file 20 articles of impeachment against the republican attorney general. >> either this is going to be the beginning of the end of his criminal rein or god help us with the harms that will come to all texans if he is allowed to stay the top cop on the take. >> reporter: paxton called the impeachment vote politically vote separated and an ugly spectacle. >> a great man. >> reporter: former president trump's support didn't help either. he called the impeachment vote unfair led by the radical left democrats and rinos, republicans
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in name only. paxton is accused of a litany of criminal acts including bribery and obstruction of justice and unfit for public office. >> the evidence is substantial. it is alarming and unnerving. >> reporter: paxton's impeachment moves to the state senate. lieutenant governor dan patrick will preside over the trial. in an interview with wfaa patrick would not say when the trial will take place. >> we will all be responsible as any juror would be if that turns out to be. >> reporter: one of those jurors and senators is angela paxton, the attorney general's own wife. there are calls for her to recuse herself but she has not said what she will do. >> every politician who supports this deceitful impeachment attempt will inflict lasting damage on the credibility of the texas house. >> reporter: as house representatives prepare to cast their impeachment votes, some lawmakers say paxton was vowing retribution for anyone voting against him. >> several members of this house
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while on the floor of this house doing the state business received telephone calls from paxton personally threatening them with political consequences in their next election. >> reporter: paxton has been under indictment on federal securities fraud charges and remains under fbi investigation for a scandal involving a campaign donor. paxton has denied all wrongdoing. >> this shameful process was curated from the start as an act of political retribution. >> ed, you're learning more about the timing of the impeachment trial. what do you know? >> reporter: yeah, we've been waiting to hear from the senate side on this and just a little while ago, there was a resolution adopted by all of the state senators saying that this impeachment trial will take place no later than august 28th and that on june 20th or thereabout, there will be the rules for the impeachment trial will be presented so look for
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this trial to take some place between june 20th and no later than august 28th this summer. >> all right, ed, thanks for bringing us the latest. "outfront" next, california governor gavin newsom's vow years ago to replace senator dianne feinstein with a black woman if she retired early. now that promise is being put to the test as questions grow about feinstein's health, so what will newsom do? tonight, a nation honors the americans who gave their lives fighting for freedom. or more. that's why farmers new car replacement pays toto replace it with a new one of thehe same make and model. get a whole lot of s something with farmers policy perks. ♪ farmers mnemonic ♪ when you sleep more deeply, you wake up more energized. introducing purple's new mattresses our unique gel flex grid draws awayeat, helping you fall asleep faster. and more “ahhh.” and instantly adapts as you move,
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question swirling among the democratic faithful, especially in this room of black democrats. >> are you confident that governor newsom will keep his promise? >> i'm optimistic. >> that's not confident. >> i'm cautiously optimistic. >> reporter: she's talking about this. >> if, in fact, dianne feinstein were to retire, will you nominate an african american woman. >> we have multiple names in mind, and the answer is yes. >> reporter: dianne feinstein had been absent from the senate for months battling health issues. now back on the job, she maintains she can fulfill her duties and will not resign. should she step aside, governor newsom would nominate a person to complete her term. with judicial nominations in the balance, california democrats are confident newsom is aware of the stakes. >> i don't think he needs reminding. >> reporter: kimberly ellis is one of a powerful group of black
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democrats openly lobbying for newsom to keep his word. >> black women are the margin of victory. we get it done. we believe that gavin newsom will fulfill the promise. and from our perspective, it's barbara or bust. >> reporter: congresswoman barbara lee, who has been in congress since the late '90s. she is already running for feinstein's senate seat in the 2024 election. >> should you be that black woman? >> let me say, i'm focused on this campaign. i'm not going to get involved in his process. he made a commitment, and i am running to win this campaign. >> reporter: how important is it for a black woman to sit in the senate? >> representation matters. when you look at the fact that there's not a voice in the senate who represents our diversity, it's outrageous. >> reporter: but choosing lee isn't a simple choose for newsom. it would mean elevating her above two rivals.
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that's congressman adam schiff. he's also running for the same senate seat. the lead prosecutor in donald trump's first impeachment trial, backed by former house speaker nancy pelosi. >> finally gave me some very good advice, which is focus on the things you can control, not the things you can't. so, i'm focused on running my race. and i do think that ultimately voters want to decide this race. and they want that choice to make. and i think they will have that choice. >> reporter: congresswoman katie porter, beloved by the progressive base, is also running for the senate seat. >> how much does that tip the scales if he selects representative lee? >> i assume that governor newsom will keep his promise. but i can't speak for him or what he's speaking about. for me, this campaign is not about the past. it's about the future. it's not about the next six months. it's about the next six years, the next 60 years for california. >> reporter: a newsom adviser tells cnn this is a politically
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fraught choice he would like to avoid. his supporters say it would provide a tough decision. >> i know the governor has his mind on the future himself, and people have long memories as to whether or not they can trust someone to support, shall we say, promises that they made. >> we're proud to be here as democrats. >> and there's also the potential that governor newsom could pick a caretaker to fill the role, appointing someone who pledges not to run in 2024. what are you hearing about that? >> at least among the democratic activists that i've been speaking with, pam, at this weekend event, it would be considered, quote, under deliverance, not a real nomination, if he picks a non-political person or somebody, as you say, who wouldn't run in 2024. the hope here, at least from the democratic activist side, is that it will be a significant choice. but as we've laid out here, it
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and finally tonight, we remember the nation paying tribute to the troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in service of their country this memorial day. president biden giving a speech at arlington national cemetery during a ceremony the white house says was attended by roughly 3,000 people. the president, seen here, laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. in his remarks, biden talking about the importance of caring for veterans and their families. >> it's a sacred obligation, not based on party or politics, but on a promise, a promise to unite
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all of us. there's nothing more important, nothing more sacred, nothing more american. >> president biden also acknowledging the anniversary of the death of his son, beau, who served in iraq. >> tomorrow marks eight years since we lost our son, beau. our loss are not the same. he didn't perish in the battlefield, as it is for so many of you. the pain and loss is with us every day, but particularly sharp on memorial day. >> thanks for joining us on this memorial day. i'll be back in the chair tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. up next, the premiere of "the bee gees." bee gees." that starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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