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but nobody is satisfied. we haven't done anything. we don't play just to win the eastern conference. we play to win the whole thing. everybody's confidence is so high. we have to believe we can do something incredibly special. we'll hit the ground running when we get to denver. and i like our chances. >> reporter: so they go on to play the number one seed denver nuggets. they had their bags packed for denver and not to return to miami. they're capitalizing on that planning ahead. poppy? >> omar, thank you, friend. game one heat versus the nuggets that is thursday night, 8:30 p.m. "cnn this morning" continues right now. at least nine people were po wounded including three children. >> customers tried to run toward the bathrooms and just waited. >> an altercation with guns with thousands of people around them is beyond reckless.
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>> thieves involved will be held accountable. volodymyr zelenskyy has decided a date for the long-awaited counteroffensive by ukrainian forces. >> several buildings sustained insignificant damage as a result of what he says were drone attacks. russia wants to follow the path of evil to the end. the world must see that terror is losing. president biden saying bipartisan deal to raise the debt ceiling will make it across the finish line. >> i have serious concerns about the deal. my team and i are still reviewing it. >> we're a divided government right now. we had to compromise. house lawmakers now delivered articles of impeachment against attorney general ken paxton to the state senate. >> every politician who supports this will inflict lasting damage -- >> this is going to be the beginning of the end of his criminal reign or god help us. >> the vegas golden knights to
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the stanley cup final for the second time in the six-year history. >> they will play the florida panthers. >> it's fun being with them everyday. >> they earned it. if they don't, the coaches will. ♪ well, good morning, everyone. it's top of the hour, 7:00 a.m. eastern here with my friend erica hill. good morning. >> good morning. >> you know all this stuff about basketball. you've been telling me all morning. did you watch? >> no, i didn't watch. girl, i was in bed at 7:30. it was amazing. >> that is amazing. i will take that over an nba playoff game any night. but we'll get to the nba finals ahead in a little bit. but this morning, we do begin with very disturbing news. nine people this morning are recovering after a mass shooting sent them running for their lives. this happened near the beach in hollywood, florida. new surveillance video shows the crowds on the boardwalk running as the gunfire rang out. the victims range in age from just 1 to 65. police say one person has been detained. a man hunt is currently under way for a second suspect.
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let's begin with our carlos suarez live in hollywood, florida. one of the victims a 1-year-old. >> reporter: that's exactly right, poppy and erica. good morning. hollywood police are not saying a whole lot about their investigation. they have said that they've identified two people believed to be tied to the shooting. they said that this entire incident was a result of an argument between two groups of people when someone pulled out a gun and opened fire. the broadwalk out here is lined with restaurants, hotels and bars. it's where thousands of folks gathered to celebrate the memorial day holiday and where cameras captured that shooting a little before 7:00 yesterday. in the video, you can see the crowds of folks just running for safety after they heard the gunshots. videos that were posted on social media showed some of the injured being treated on the sand. now, according to hollywood police, they had a number of officers in the area, in
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anticipation of these large crowds. so they were able to get a lot of these folks that were hurt to a hospital. here now is the mayor of hollywood talking about what happened. >> people come to enjoy a holiday weekend on the beach with their families. and to have people in complete reckless disregard of the safety of the public and to have an altercation with guns in a public setting with thousand of people around them is beyond reckless. >> reporter: so authorities say that one person has been detained. it is still unclear at this hour exactly what these two groups of people are fighting over. the nine people that were shot we're told that four of them are minors, including that 1-year-old baby. the good news, poppy and erica, is that all nine of these people that were shot are recovering in a hospital and they're expected to be okay. >> we certainly hope they make a fast recovery.
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carlos, thank you. overnight the russian capital getting a first-hand sense of war after an alleged drone attack. you can see a plume of smoke rising. there you go. as you watch this, you can also see if you look carefully, you can see a drone actually flying. there it is. over the city. you hear a man, see him there with his finger pointing at it out of his window. and then hear what appears to be a fragment of a drowned drone. russian state media says two people were injured in moscow. three residential buildings were damaged in that attack. russian military officials are blaming ukraine. it is something, though, that ukraine denies. the attack, of course, though comes just hours after yet another aerial assault on kyiv. one woman was killed, 13 others injured. cnn's frederik pleitgen is live in kyiv this morning with more. fred, we'll get to what happened overnight in kyiv. but can you bring us up to speed on what you're hearing about the attack in moscow? >> reporter: yeah. i'm hearing that the folks in
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moscow certainly pretty concerned about what happened there. those residential buildings that apparently were hit are in the southern end of the russian capital. what the russians are saying is that in total there were eight uavs, eight drones involved in this. they say that three of them were taken down by electronic countermeasures. they stopped the drones electronically and went off course and then crashed into open areas most of them. they also said they had to shoot five of them down with their air defense system. of course, as you can imagine, that's definitely not something that the russians are used to, certainly something it's a first time for them. you guys mentioned the russians are blaming kyiv for this. the ukrainians are saying it wasn't them but they also say incidents like this will happen again in the future. >> that's the reality there in moscow. meantime, you're at the scene of yet another drone strike there in kyiv. >> yeah. >> what more do we know about that strike? and what's the damage there on the ground? >> reporter: yeah. it was quite a night here in kyiv. i have to say throughout hours of this night, there were these
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drones which are iranian made drones flying over the ukrainian capital. building behind me is substantially damaged. this is the area where one woman was actually killed inside that building by debris falling from a drone that was actually shot down. and this is not the first time. the past couple days there have been several of these kinds of attacks. obviously terrifying the local population here. here is what happened. >> reporter: terrified children running for their lives as russia unleashed another massive aerial attack on ukrainian cities. but ukraine says its air defense managed to shoot down all the ballistic missiles fired at the capital kyiv. now ukraine's forces seem nearly ready for their own much-anticipated counteroffensive. this weekend, ukraine's top general releasing this video showing troops gearing up for battle and showcasing modern
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western weapons with a clear message it's time to take back what's ours. and that's what these guys are training for. this is a unit of the offensive guard ukraine's interior ministry. we have a clear motivation the commander says. we defend our lands. this is our nation, our homeland. the offensive guard is mustering tens of thousands troops they say, training to storm trenches and evacuate casualties which they know they're bound to have in the tough battles ahead. >> these guys are practicing here no doubt will become a reality for the ukrainian armed forces very soon as kyiv says it will start a massive counteroffensive to take back all of their territory including crimea. the ukrainians already seem to be stepping up strikes on possible russian supply lines in occupied areas. russian-installed officials claim ukrainian missile attacks
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in southeastern ukraine in the past days. it's just the beginning a top adviser to ukraine's presidency tells me. everything that is happening now is a precursor for a counterattack, a necessary precursor where the intensity of fire increases. and he lays out bold aims for the counteroffensive. it will end undoubtedly on the borders of ukraine as they were in 1991 with the deoccupation of crimea and with the beginning of a massive process of transformation of russia's political system. but for now, resilience remains the key. these newlyweds tied their knot and were on the way to their celebration when the air raid sirens went off. they continued to celebrate in the bomb shelter, vowing not to let russian rockets ruin the best day of their lives.
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as you guys can see, a lot of resilience here on the part of the local population. of course, nevertheless, these strikes do frighten a lot of people. i was able to speak to the mayor of kyiv just a couple minutes ago. he called the strikes that happened here nothing more than terrorism. erica? >> it is really something. and a reminder, too, with that wedding of how life is continuing despite all of these horrors. fred, really appreciate it. thank you. meantime back here at home the debt limit deal about to face a crucial hurdle on capitol hill today. the powerful house rules committee is set to decide if the bill will make it to the house floor. some of the deal's fiercest republican kpcomponents are on this committee. congressman ralph northam and chip roy. speaker mccarthy agreed to put on the committee in a deal to gain the speakership. >> i'm going to be making that loud and clear to my republican colleagues this is not a deal we should be taking. the whole point of the rules committee was to say we would have a power sharing
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representation of the entire conference and i'm not thrilled with this bill right now. so i'm not going into the rules committee with a very positive view towards this bill. >> cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox is tracking the latest on capitol hill. lauren, good morning to you. so mccarthy wants this vote tomorrow. they have sort of deadline from treasury of june 5th. this all has to be wrapped up. where does this go? >> reporter: yeah. this rules committee meeting today is really crucial, poppy. the make june of this committee is nine republicans, four democrats. and typically the way it works is that conservatives are the ones who get these rules out of the committee and put them on the house floor. that's how it's been happening all year. that's the tradition of this committee that the majority party is responsible for the rule to get it to the floor. but in this case, we are watching very closely some of those key conservatives because what you're hearing from chip roy is that he's very upset about this legislation. you're hearing the same from representative ralph northam. and we're going to be keeping a close eye on another
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conservative on that committee thomas masse and whether or not he becomes the critical tie breaking vote in this committee today when it comes to getting it out of the rules. so, one thing to keep in mind, earlier this year when thomas masse was asked how he was going to use his position on the rules committee, this was back in january, he told my colleague melanie zanona, quote, i would be reluctant to try to use the rules committee to achieve a legislative outcome, particularly if it doesn't represent a large majority of our caucus. i don't ever intend to use my position on there to hold somebody hostage, to hold legislation hostage. now, his office is not saying how he is going to vote today in this committee, but obviously that comment back in january, giving some insight into how at least thomas massie is viewing his role on this rules committee today. if it makes it out of the rules committee, we expect it will have the votes it needs to pass
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on the house floor with multiple sources telling me that republicans are confident they could get or are at least locking down about 150 or more republicans. poppy? >> lauren, thank you very much. joining us now congressman brendan boil, a democrat from pennsylvania, the ranking member of the house budget committee and been in close contact with white house negotiators throughout this dell ceiling fight, throughout this process. good to have you with us this morning. just picking up there where my colleague lauren fox left off, are you concerned at all about the house rules committee meeting today? chip roy is very clear this is not a deal he should be making, in his words. >> i will be testifying in front of the rules committee given that i'm the ranking member in the budget committee. i fully expect that those two ultra right members chip roy and ralph northam will be voting no, even if a third republican votes no, there is always the possibility that a democratic member votes yes. so, certainly i will be very
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interested as i'll be testifying for hours and hours but i am confident that one way or the other the math will add up and this bill will be sent to the entire house floor for us to vote on. i believe pass tomorrow. >> so you believe it will pass, but getting there, let's say gets to the house floor. you're confident it's going to happen. as you know, fellow members of the progressive caucus, house progressive caucus are not feeling great about it. congress woman jayapal was clear with jake tapper on sunday saying, yes, democrats should be worried here. congressman bowman yesterday telling wolf he has serious concerns and as of 12 hours ago he was still undecided. president biden yesterday said he doesn't know if he can get progressives on board. where do things stand this morning? >> well, look, if i had the unilateral ability to write a budget, it wouldn't look exactly like this. there are some provisions in there that i don't agree with. but when we look in totality at the entire bill, when we look at
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the number of things extreme things that speaker mccarthy and freedom caucus or far right members were pushing, when we look at the prospect of a first-ever default in american history that would truly be a catastrophic event, i think taken in totality you will see enough democratic support to make sure this bill passes. >> so is that your message to progressives? that there's enough in here you can deal with, vote for it? >> well, first, i don't tell my colleagues on the democratic side or republican side for that matter how to vote. i respect each one of my colleagues that come with their decision. the toughest vote in congress is not necessarily on a controversial issue. the toughest vote is on something that you agree with some parts of the bill and you disagree with others. those are always for me the toughest votes. i have spoken to a number of my democratic colleagues whether they're moderate or progressive or somewhere in between.
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i think each of us are wrestling with a piece of legislation that is neither perfect nor awful but somewhere in between and attempting to arrive at the best decision that reflects our districts as well as our values. >> so in those conversations, again, i know you said you're not telling people thousand vote, but you are having these conversations. i would imagine your colleagues are expressing some of their concerns. some of their frustrations. as you're having those conversations, is it your sense that despite some of those reservations they will, in fact, be voting for this? >> it depends on -- depends entirely on the individual. there certainly is no way to kind of with one broad brush paint the entire caucus's view. i will say if there is unanimity, it's on the fact that we're even stuck in this position that just literally a few days before what would be a catastrophic default that we still have not raised the nation's debt ceiling. also a frustration on my part and others that we did not take
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care of this when democrats had the power to do so for a couple years. i think there's a great resolve, number of my democratic colleagues to make sure we are never again stuck in this awful situation. >> are you confident that that will happen? that you will never again be stuck in that situation? >> yeah, i do believe that we're going to learn this lesson. remember, just how dangerous this has been, the most dangerous moment in the debt ceiling since 2011. there's a real possibility that this all had gone south had this deal not come together at the very last second. there's no question that the debt ceiling serves no purpose. it needs to be dramatically reformed. this is an incredibly dysfunctional process that in the end achieves nothing other than avoiding disaster. >> and i know you've proposed to get rid of it all together in the past. as we look at where we stand, though, this morning, i found it interesting your former colleague congressman max rose of new york with us yesterday
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morning talking about this deal and the fact that you have people upset on both sides. that in some ways -- i'm paraphrasing here. this shows it was a healthy negotiation that this is a true bipartisan deal in many respects because you don't have one side, you know, winning, if you will, much more than the other. is that how you look at it as well? >> i would say that -- very unfortunate that speaker mccarthy conflated the debt ceiling issue, which we absolutely have to raise. we raised 78 times since 1960. no question we have to raise it. he conflated that with what is a normal budget negotiation that would have been taking place in august and september any way. the reality is with a narrowly republican house and narrowly democratic senate and democratic white house, the budget was never going to be exactly what i would want and exactly what speaker mccarthy and maga republicans would want. this budget probably reflects that it is somewhere between
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those two options. >> congressman man brendan boyl. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> that's interesting to hear him say that democrats should have done this when they could have. right? maybe next time. great interview. ahead, ron desantis about to make his debut on the campaign trail as a presidential candidate after a bit of a glitchy start. he goes to iowa. plus, the desperate search for survivors still under way in iowa after an apartment building partially collapsed. and there's a new report this morning rescue teams found a woman alive in that wreckage after she had been trapped for more than a day. we have those details. the alall-new tempur-pedic breeze makes sleep feel cool. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the tempur-breeze feels up to 10° cooler, all night long.
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♪ new this morning a ninth person we're learning has been rescued from that partially collapsed apartment building in davenport, iowa. we have some new video in here to show you. the quad city times says the woman called her daughter from the fourth floor of the building. she was ultimately rescued by the fire department more than 24 hours after that collapse. owners of the building are facing demolition orders on the property today. officials say there are still people who remain unaccounted
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for and may reassess that time line. residents also describing the terror they felt as parts of the building just caved in on sunday. >> i was sleeping and then i heard a great big noise. i opened up the door to my apartment and it was like daylight, daylight. >> what was going through my mind was the other people that's trapped in there. >> so scary. that collapse led to a large natural gas leak. water also flooding into the building. so fire officials right now are still trying to determine the cause. florida governor ron desantis is going to sort of launch again. this time in iowa. he will be there on his campaign tour tonight. desantis set to take the stage in des moines before he chris crosses the state over the next two days. its his second trip to iowa this month, but first since officially launching last week. just days from now the governor plans to hit two more early primary states, new hampshire and south carolina.
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steve con tor know on the trail in clive, iowa, this morning. right? what can you tell us about the plans desantis has for today? >> reporter: well, poppy, as you said, this will be a much more traditional campaign kickoff than the digital launch we saw last week. it will be the first glimpse how desantis frames his message on the campaign trail. over the weekend, he has taken a much more aggressive posture toward donald trump than really we have ever seen from him in the past. he accused the former president of being bad on the economy, of raising the national debts, of his covid policies hurting businesses, of passing criminal justice reform bill he said is soft on crime. we have never really seen him go after the former president in these kinds of terms before, but this is the message he brought to conservative media in all the interviews he has done over the weekend, whether or not that is the same message that he brings to the campaign trail, that's what we're going to find out
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tonight, poppy. >> talk about what he's going to do in new hampshire, south carolina, of coursely the early states is what he's hitting. this is really an introduction to voters who weren't on that twitter spaces announce pt last week about who he is and how he governs. >> yeah. a lot of these voters already heard of governor desantis. he has great name recognition for a first-time candidate. but they haven't had a chance to see him in person. that's so critical to these early voting states. especially a state like new hampshire that really expects the candidates to come there, kiss babies, talk to people, go into living rooms, talk to as many voters as possible. he'll spend thursday criss-crossing through new hampshire. that's a state that's so critical in these early contests. a state that launched donald trump in 2016. and then from there he'll go to south carolina, another key early voting state. that state, though, has two republicans who are already in the race, former governor of south carolina nikki haley. current senator tim scott.
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whether and how desantis is able to navigate this growing field, defining a lane for himself in these early primary states we'll get a first look at that this week. >> thank you, steve. appreciate it. enjoy iowa. the texas house is delivering articles of impeachment against attorney general ken paxton to the texas senate. a timeline for the trial has been set. the latest from texas. happening today, emergency veterinary summit at churchill downs home of the kentucky derby after a dozen horses were euthanized over a one-month span. those new details just ahead. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supppporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. ♪ the only thing i regret about my life is that i did what everyone else did at the time. i hired local talent. if i knew about upwork,
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♪ lawmakers in the texas senate now setting a timeline to hold an impeachment trial against state attorney general ken paxton. that's happening in the coming months. it will determine whether paxton is removed from office. the articles of impeachment were delivered to the senate on monday, just two days after the unprecedented move by the gop-controlled house. members there voting to impeach paxton. cnn's ed lavendera is live in texas. what happened in the state senate? >> reporter: well, really kind of the first step to what we're going to see here in texas as the summer of impeachment. but ken paxton has been elected as attorney general three times,
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but it's clear he's not going to go quietly. >> deliver the articles -- >> reporter: a history-making impeachment trial is going forward in the texas state senate. >> i'm directed by the house of representatives to present to the senate the articles of impeachment preferred against warren kenneth paxton jr., attorney general of the state of texas. >> reporter: the house delivered 20 articles of impeachment to the state senate monday evening. ten of the 20 articles stem from a whistleblower lawsuit filed by four now fired top staffers for the attorney general. that suit was settled for $3.3 million and state investigative committee investigation followed. paxton faces allegations of bribery, abuse of public trust, conspiracy, termination of whistleblowers, misuse of official information and obstruction of justice among other charges. the trial will start by august 28th and be presided over by the lieutenant governor dan patrick. >> this is about facts. this is about evidence. and at the end of the day, my
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colleagues and i will not stand for public corruption. that's why we're proceeding to a trial in the texas senate. >> reporter: paxton denies any wrong doing and railed against the investigation. >> the fact i was prohibited to present evidence reveals this shameful process was curated from the start as an act of political retribution. >> reporter: according to the lead impeachment manager, paxton will be able to participate in the trial but there are already concerns paxton could be trying to intimidate elected officials. >> several members of this house while on the floor of this house doing the state business received telephone calls from general paxton personally threatening them with political consequences in their next election. >> reporter: paxton is temporarily suspended from his duties and texas governor greg abbott can appoint a replacement but abbott has yet to publicly
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comment on the matter. former president trump did speak out in defense of paxton. >> he's a great man. >> reporter: writing in a truth social post that the impeachment vote was unfair. trump's words held no sway in the republican majority house who still went ahead and voted to impeach the former president's long-time ally. >> we all love ken paxton around these parts, right? >> reporter: supporters of the pair gathered outside a courthouse in texas on monday to voice their support. >> we cannot continue on with this. the people have to stand up against tyranny. >> reporter: and so the fate of ken paxton will rest later this summer in the hands of 31 state senators, 12 of those are democrats. they would need at least nine republicans to vote him -- convict him and push him out of office. reminder that one of those senators is ken paxton's own wife. there are calls for her to recuse herself, but so far she has not said what she is going to do. erica? >> interesting to see if she decides to, in fact, recuse
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herself or not. ed, really appreciate it. thanks. >> absolutely fascinating. happening today, horse racing regulating officials are holding an emergency veterinary summit after an unusually number high horse deaths at churchill downs, of course, the home of the kentucky derby. veterinary officials from churchill downs and the kentucky horse racing commission will meet after 12 horses died, 12 of them n a month at the track since april 27th. the horse racing integrity and safety authority will also dispatch experts to analyze churchill downs racing and training surfaces. >> one doctor is calling this the most important virus you have never heard of. that is exactly where we'll bring you up to speed in a cnn medical report just ahead. $38.8 billion how much cash the treasury department has on hand this morning. we'll tell you which people actually have more money than the u.s. treasury coffers right now as we get closer to the default deadline. ♪
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month when the coffers were relatively flush from april tax collections. to give you a sense of how empty treasury cash coffer is, $38.8 billion is lower than the net worth of more than two dozen of the world's wealthiest people including elon musk, mark zuckerberg, warren buffett and nike co-founder phil knight. joining us is mark zandy. sorry you're not on the list, mark. we appreciate your brain this morning on all of this. it's interesting your prediction and analysis before this deal got reached was that if we default it would kill 7 million jobs, really hurt the u.s. economy. but now what? if this thing goes through as written, as the legislative text is this morning, what does that mean for the u.s. economy? >> well, poppy, yeah. try that i might, $30 billion feels like a long way from here where i am. but, any way, you know, i'll have to say from the perspective
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of what it means for the economy, this deal, if it gets through congress and i think it will. it's pretty good. about as good as we can expect. given all the drama and all the things going on here and all the darker scenarios that could have unfold, i'll take this one. of course, the biggest impact will come from the spending cuts. but if you do a little arithmetic, lit probably shave no more than 150,000 jobs from what it would have been otherwise. that sounds like a lot of jobs and it is, but just for context, u.s. economy has been creating about 250,000 jobs per month and raise the unemployment rate about .1%. it's not great. the economy is weak. if i were king, i wouldn't have done this the way it's been done, obviously. but given all the things that have gone on i'll take it. >> can it achieve a soft landing and avoid a recession? >> think so. the economy is showing just incredible resilience.
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consumers are hanging tough. doing their part, not spending with abandon, but doing what they need to do to keep the economy moving forward. businesses are very reluctant to lay off workers. we have seen some pickups and layoffs. but generally you know they have been low. and i think the economy has enough resilience to digest that. obviously again, risks are high. nothing else can go wrong, but if nothing else goes wrong, we can make our way through without a recession, yes. >> that's great news. i think it's really interesting to think about this in the context of 2011, sort of the last time we were on the brink and tim pact it had on the economy. it was such a different time for the economy. unemployment high at 9%, interest rates were low. it was different. it was that time that now harvard economist jason furman, deputy director of president obama's national economic council was dealing with these issues. but what's interesting he tells "the new york times" this morning that all of this could actually help the fed's fight
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uninflation. from a macro economic perspective this deal is a small help because the economy still needs cooling off and takes pressure off interest rates. do you agree? it could help? >> the good news is that monetary policy the fed does and fiscal policy what the lawmakers are doing now are working in the right direction, working to slow things down, cool things off to get inflation back to the fed's target. we need that to occur so the feds don't need to raise rates more. if they do, then we would go into recession. in that sense, i agree. my sense is the fed has done enough already. raised rates aggressively the past year. we don't need any more restraint. and any more restraint we add to the economy and of course this debt limit deal will add some restraint. raises the risk we go into recession. so, you know, i don't want to cut too fine a hair here, but you know, my sense is that we certainly don't need this. >> you have been making the argument, you made it to us last
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week when you were here in studio, it's just time to basically get rid of the debt limit. president biden was asked about that this weekend as well. he still doesn't like that idea. listen to what he said. >> no, i think it would cause more controversy getting rid of the debt limit, although i do -- i am exploring the idea that we would at a later date, year or two from now decide whether or not the 14th amendment, how that actually would impact on whether or not you need to do the debt limit every year. but that's another day. thank you, all. >> he had previously called it irresponsible to not have a debt ceiling. now he says it would cause more controversy to get rid of the debt limit. you think it's the most prudent path ahead? >> absolutely. i don't see any benefit to this debt limit. just creates a lot of drama and, you know, damage. we have been -- poppy, you and i have been talking about this now for three, four weeks and the whole world is and we're
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spending all this emernergy on s for what? we're not solving our long-term fiscal issues. i think our time could be better spent. something needs to follow. republicans and democrats can come together to figure out what we need to do for our long-run fiscal health, but the debt limit as we can see is not the way to go. so, yeah, i do away with that in an instant. >> appreciate it. good news to get this through, maybe not a recession, maybe a soft landing. that's his headline. next hour, we'll speak with debbie dingell. where did she stand on this deal? the most important virus you have never heard of. this morning the cdc is warning cases of that virus, the human metanumo virus surged 36% more than usual this spring and could be a doozy. doctors say it can cause just as much misery as the flu and rsv. meg terrel is here.
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so they're concerned. how concerned should we be? what should we know about this virus? >> if you have taken a covid test and been negative but have all these symptoms. i have done so many times with my kids when i caught something they have in school. it could be this virus. we don't know that much about it. a lot of people haven't heard of it but can cause these hacking coughs, fevers, shortness of breath, runny nose and severe cases bronchitis and pneumonia. kit be very dangerous for young children and for older people. we did see this spike in the spring, 36% higher than the seasonal averages before covid. so it's getting disrupted the same way we have seen a number of respiratory viruses change their behaviors as a result of the pandemic. and they say it's something we should keep an eye on. >> how dangerous? >> so, for children under 5, the estimates for 2018 was there was more than 14 million infections worldwide. 600,000 hospitalizations among these little kids and 16,000 deaths. their worse in developing countries. this is a problem. the pharmaceutical industry has
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not devoted a lot of resources to developing vaccines. moderna is one company working on it. i spoke with the ceo and pointed out the toll they see particularly in toddlers as one reason they're trying to develop a vaccine for it. >> thank you, meg. >> thank you. it's being called quite the cruise from hell. that's a term that people are using and you'll see why in a minute because this carnival cruise ship was rocked by a powerful storm and then hallways had been flooded with water and debris. terrified passengers reaching for their life preservers. one of those passengers joins us with their experience next. ♪ >> announcer: health this morning, brought to you by -- ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief with skyrizi,
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out of a movie. >> a dream vacation in the bahamas became a living nightmare after severe weather violently rocked the carnival sunshine. the ship was returning to south carolina over the weekend when it hit rough seas, rough putting it mildly, leaving passengers frightened, wondering if they had make it back home according bill hasler, who was there for all of the fun. >> not so sure it was fun. let's show you this video he shot. all sorts of debris being tossed around the ship, water rushing that hallways and rooms. carnival said, the return to charl stons was impacted by the weather. it delayed the ship's arrival on sunday and as a result the next voyage was delayed. we appreciate the patience of all our guests.
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bill was on that ship and joins us now. good morning. going on cruises, never, never did i see something like this. what was it like to live through? >> i am surprised i am still alive. >> really? >> yeah, it was that bad. i have seen the looks on people's face when -- i was a crane operator in new york city and running a locomotive for the sand hogs and flipped the train over on its roof. when i climbed out of that train, the look of fear and death, it was like they seen ghost. when i got off the ship at 6, 7:00 saturday evening when it was supposed to dock at eight in the morning, the look -- that look that i seen on the sand hogs' cases was the same look i seen on these people coming off the ship. they were white as ghosts. >> you said it seemed like carnival was playing god with your lives? >> exactly. why would you sail into this
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storm? with 80 mile an hour plus winds. i was a crane operator and everybody that worked around me, around the crane, any equipment i was on, their lives were in my hands. when the wind were bad or the weather bad, we shut the job down and not work for safety. what were they thinking? >> well, what do you think they should have done? turn around? >> stayed in port in the bahamas. waited a day for the storm to subside a little bit and then go. or when they got in the storm, go further out into the ocean to get to the other side of it, you know, to the back ideside. >> in the statement poppy shared they thank youed you for patience and understanding. how much communication was there as this was happening? were you told to go to certain areas? >> very little. i don't think the crew knew what they were doing. i don't think they were trained enough for a situation like that. they were actually scavenging to get the life boats ready. to throw us out into the sea
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with 40 plus-foot waves. i don't know how you would get in a life boat. if that thing went down, we were all dead. >> wow. >> yeah. at one point a wave hit my window and broke my window and wate water was coming in. >> into your state room? >> what did you do? >> put on my life preserver. i fell asleep at one point with that on. >> you heard us read carnival's statement. i wonder if you want something else from them. sounds like you are concerned that praepgss weren't made and safety wasn't prioritized. >> they shouldn't have went through that storm and they need to be held accountable. >> what does that look like to you? >> as far as what? >> not just you being compensated, but do you fear that could happen again? >> it was like a coin toss for them. and they got lucky. maybe the next time they won't be as lucky. you know? >> what do you think -- just to
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follow up, what should change? >> there has to be different laws about heading into storms. how do you sail out of sun into a storm like that? it made no sense. >> we are glad you're okay. i am sure it's traumatizing. it's probably starting to soak in, right? >> when i got home sunday night i had to crack open a beer and think about it and i started shaking because it just set in. like that -- like i couldn't believe i am still here, like, you know, when they say kiss the ground? >> you kissed the ground? >> yeah. >> you are staying on dry land for a while? >> yeah, i'm staying away from the ocean. >> so glad you are okay. thank you very much. we welcome anyone from carnival to join us to talk about that if changes are coming as well. "cnn this morning" continues right now.
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take a look at that. good morning, everyone. it is 8:00 a.m. eastern. a lot of news to get here. i am here with erica hill. what you saw was a drone flying over moscow. the kremlin accusing ukraine of launching an attack on the russian capital with drones. the ukrainians are denying any direct involvement. a manhunt underway in mississippi after another jailbreak at the same facility a group of inmates escaped just weeks ago. and the miami heat are heading to the nba finals to face the denver nuggets. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. the debt limit deal is about to face a crucial hurdle. a make or break vote could potentially tank this bill before it reaches the floor.
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some of the loudest opponents of the deal are on this committee. among them congressman ralph norman and chip roy, the hard-liners who speaker kevin mccarthy agreed to put on the committee in january. here with where congressman roy stands. >> i am going to be making that loud and clear to my republican colleagues this is not a deal we should be taking. we had a representation of the entire conference and i am not thrilled with this bill right now so i am not going into the rules committee with a positive view. kevin is a friend. i think the republican party is best unified but not for the sake of unity. >> not for the sake of unity on the other side of the aisle president biden is trying to con vence progressives and skeptical democrats to vote yes. >> you know i never -- i feel very good about it. i spoke to a number of the members.
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>> house democrats have reservations about this compromised bill? >> [ inaudible ]. >> let's bring in house democratic congresswoman who has been critical of the deal, debbie dingell. congresswoman, good morning. >> good morning to both of you. >> we'll get into the energy components in a moment. that's a big deal to you, obviously. we just saw moments ago your republican counterpart congresswoman nancy mace of south carolina just said she is gonna vote no. how are you going to vote on this compromised debt limit deal? >> you know, i'm still undecided. we can't, not pay our bills. we cannot -- i think many of us right now are feeling -- are very angry we have been held hostage, that we find ourselves in this situation. i do not believe compromise is a dirty word. but we are still -- i spent my entire day yesterday in meetings with various white house
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