compromised bill? >> [ inaudible ]. >> let's bring in house democratic congresswoman who has been critical of the deal, debbie dingell. congresswoman, good morning. >> good morning to both of you. >> we'll get into the energy components in a moment. that's a big deal to you, obviously. we just saw moments ago your republican counterpart congresswoman nancy mace of south carolina just said she is gonna vote no. how are you going to vote on this compromised debt limit deal? >> you know, i'm still undecided. we can't, not pay our bills. we cannot -- i think many of us right now are feeling -- are very angry we have been held hostage, that we find ourselves in this situation. i do not believe compromise is a dirty word. but we are still -- i spent my entire day yesterday in meetings with various white house

officials and other colleagues trying to understand what the implications were. so i am going back to the hill today, going to meet with a lot of of my colleagues and get to where we need to go. i know we have to pay our bills. that is probably the most overriding thing driving me. but as i said yesterday, there are parts of this bill that i would not vote for if they were a free standing bill. the whole process is not one that is the way that the government should operate. we need regular order. >> that to me, congresswoman, sounds like a reluctant yes at this point. am i reading that right? >> i am not going to tell you one way or the other because i am going to keep asking questions and if i learn anything that's very disturbing today, i will have -- you know, i want to understand how precedent setting this bill is. how will this impact future bills? what are the domestic spending cuts, what are the programs really going to cut?

are seniors going to be hurt. real questions that i have. you know, i think undecided is probably the safest place to put me. >> okay. i thought it was telling how both speaker mccarthy and also one of his top republican negotiators on this dusty johnson characterized this bill over the last few days. here's what they said. >> there were no wins for democrats. there is nothing after the passage of this bill that would be more liberal or progressive h than it is today. it's a remarkable conservative accomplishment. >> the democrats are upset. hakeem said there is not one thing in the bill for democrats. >> do you agree with that assessment? >> look, you know, most of the briefings i have been in people talked about how much worse it could have been. i don't think that's the way to talk about a bill. we are talking about life

impacting of all americans. it shouldn't be whether democrats win or republicans lost. this should be how to deliver for the american people. quite frankly, even the sound bites are beginning to bother me. we need to get back to the days where people talked, get to regular order, remember that the job we have do is protect the country that we all respect. and there are things in here that are really -- i don't know what the outcome could be down the road. especially when you talk about, you know, when you talk about work requirements. there are seniors who are raised in the age, dependents are defined as children 6 or under or if you are totally incapacitated. this pandemic has caused such a crisis in senior care. there are mo caregivers. children find themselves as caregivers in a sandwich generation and that -- so i am very worried about what is really happening there. and i think people -- the

environmental impact on this bill deep by disturbs me. by the way, as a mid-westerner, the things to keep being given are helping the coastals, helping -- i want to make sure that my midwest and that the auto industry and transportation and mobility don't keep paying a price as people give things to one sector and ignore the midwest. and that worries me as well. >> let's talk about the environmental impact on all of this and what it means for energy at large because this proposed streamlining what was really landmark legislative accomplishment that the national environmental policy act. your husband, former congressman john dingell, worked for years to get this passed. you let a -- led a resolution impose roll backs to it this. the way this is framed by some conservatives is that it will streamline within one to two

years afrofl or rejection of policies for both oil and gas, but also for clean energy projects, essentially to get them through faster. what is your reaction to what in does to that in this bill? >> that's what i am trying to very much understand. my husband did write that women. my husband was a very complicated man but he loved the outdoors. he knew the right of communities to protect the environmental impact of decisions and to also protect our outdoors. i have been very clear. this bill was written 50 years, it needs to be modernized. let me be clear. i worked for general motors for three decades. i see both sides of this. people have focused on transmission, but i want to make sure they are not precedenting things that will gut this bill. that's what worries me. >> one final question on energy and a big win for your fellow democrat joe manchin. you sit on the energy and

commerce committee. that mountain valley pipeline, a natural gas pipeline in west virginia that he has been pushing and pushing and pushing for, he said he was pleased to see mccarthy do this and he said there is tremendous value in completing it to the domestic energy production to drive down costs across america. that's joe manchin. do you agree with that? >> look, i have great respect for joe manchin. we are good friends. he and my husband were very good friends. so i know that that was a deal that was cut with white house last year. but what i want to make sure that in giving this deal to joe manchin i have repeatedly offered amendments in committee trying to make sure we protect judicial review. that's a bedrock. we can't take away people's ability to protect the environmental impact, too.

and the subjectivity of what it is, protecting human and environmental impacts. so i have a lot of questions. >> yeah. and to people who don't know that legislation written by your husband, nepa allowed peep to bring concern about these projects to the court more productive and successful for them. thank you very much. sounds like you have a lot of questions you need answers to before you vote. >> i'll be working it today because we have to get this done. we have to pay our bills. >> thank you. appreciate it. come back soon. >> thank you. new this morning, the russian capital getting a firsthand sense of war after an alleged drone attack. you see a plume of smoke in the center of the screen and you can actually see in the next video, you see a drone flying over the city, you will see in a moment here, as he looks out his window. there is video posted of what appears to be a fragment of a downed drone. russian state medias says two

people were injured in moscow and three residential buildings damaged. they blame ukraine for the attack. something ukraine denies. >> that came hours after another aerial assault on kyiv. ukrainian officials say one woman was killed, 13 injured. 17 attacks on kyiv in month ahead of the planned counteroffensive. officials just released this video of police responding to one of the attacks. a real time look at the daily reality of war as officers help injured civilians, joining us now jill dougherty, an adjunct professor at george washington university. just to get your reaction to this bombardment on kyiv and also what we saw take place in moscow. >> yeah, i think what happened in moscow is really significant. you know, there have been attacks by apparently ukrainians

over the border close to ukraine, but this is moscow. this is a big deal. moscow is protected by very serious air defenses and they say, the russian officials say that these drones were shot down. but just the meerl fact, remember a month ago we had that drone, two drones went over the kremlin and the kremlin in the beginning wasn't quite sure how to deal with it. kind. same thing here. they haven't been able to deal with, i would say, in a propaganda way with what's happening. if you look at the drones, the damage militarily is not really great. but the propaganda value really is. so you have the dilemma by putin, you know, you could say he has to admit that the war is expanding and that it's hitting the russian capital. that's very bad for him politically. on the other hand, what you see is the kremlin trying to spin this, that the war, you know,

now we have [ indiscernible ] survival of russia, et cetera. they will try to get the russian people you you nighted. it's a very disturbing thing for putin. it's a real problem for him. >> they will try to spin that into other propaganda. our military analyst said this morning this is a warning to the russian people. how do you think the russian people are taking it today? >> i have been on social media, of course, trying to figure out what they are thinking. it's kind of hard to say. but i think there is an element of shock. there is no question. that drones have just symbolically gone over the kremlin but now hitting neighbors. i looked at a map. they are in the city and then outside and they are in areas kind of west f moscow where you have a lot of elite housing, the president lives out in that area.

so this is -- this is really significant, even if, again, the damage is minimal but the psychological damage i think is quite strong. >> jill dougherty, thank you very much. appreciate you. this morning a manhunt underway after two inmates escaped from a mississippi jail. this happened yesterday morning. police say michael lewis has been captured but they are still looking for joseph spring. officials believe they got out through an air duct after four men escaped the same jail over a month ago. isabel rosales joins us now. what do we know? >> reporter: the sheriff, tyree jones of hines county, says this facility has been plagued with issues since the inception. it's 30 years old. he says it's poorly built. he also is blaming poor staffing for these multiple jail breaks. saying these issues need to be addressed even as they are currently working to build a new

facility. monday morning there was a depu patrolling and he discovered a damaged fence, items and blood. they conducted a certified head count. they found michael lewis and joseph spring to be missing. they also found a breach in the ceiling area of the recreation room and believe these inmates escaped through an air duct that led outside. they jumped a fence and got away. sheer the sheriff on the latest escape. >> once again, i know i apologized before. here we are once again that i'm apologizing to the people of hinds county alreadying another public safety breach in our facility. >> reporter: right. and now spring has been at the facility since november on parole and probation violations related to a burglary charge, also holds from other agencies. the sheriff doesn't know where spring is or where he is headed

or if he is armed but he coshou be considered armed and dangerous. they believe he is on foot and was last seen, poppy, wearing a red jumpsuit. >> we will follow it. thank you. florida governor ron desantis will be in iowa where he is kicking a multiday tour as he winds up to take on donald trump. our political panel weighs in. and the kansas city teenager shot in the head when he rang the wrong doorbell made his first major public appearance. we have an update for you on his recovery. ♪ it's our turn now we'll make it up again. ♪ ♪ we'll build freelance teams with more e agility. ♪ ♪ the old way of working is deader than me.e. ♪ ♪ we'll scale up, anand we'll scale down ♪ ♪ before you're six feet underground. ♪ ♪ yes, this is how, this is how we work now. ♪

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nominee, i will beat biden and i will serve two terms and i will be able to destroy leftism in this country and leave woke ideology on the dust bin of history. >> quite a promise there. a bold prediction from florida governor ron desantis. he is heading to iowa today to relaunch his campaign after that glitchy twitter launch. the stops there and another early primary states this week are an opportunity, right, to chip away at former president trump's lead in the polls and an opportunity to try to distance himself from both the former president but also a growing gogop field. alyssa is here and cnn political analyst and national politics reporter at "the new york times." interesting over the weekend how much we saw ron desantis saying i am not trump, i am not a less

loud trump but actually different on policy. >> yes. and he took aim specifically at the first step act which was one of the most bipartisan accomplishments of the trump administration. interesting move. i mean, he is mapping out a campaign that in many ways is to the right of donald trump. he is relitigating covid saying donald trump should have done less, should have been less restrictive and less closures, repealing the first step among ot other things. >> district attorney vetted for the first version of the first step back. >> he was very different in congress. also a supporter of aid to ukraine them. they are trying to figure out how to differentiate themselves from donald trump in a way that breaks through and frankly the answer tend to be riding to the further right. you have to worry that this will become a general election and some of the positions taking are radioactive to a general election audience. >> the idea that he could be the person who could do unlike

donald trump bring in a coalition of people. what he has done the last couple of months is shift that to idealogically to the right to make donald trump look inconsistent with the values he made popular. that's a different strategy than the desantis version out of the midterms. it's putting meat on the bones as to the why of his campaign. that's a different type of why than a lot of the donors and people coming to him initially. he has switched up what the desantis brand would be as he is getting closer to the primary. >> to put a final point on that is he didn't win -- the numbers in medicaid because he was running anti-lbgtq and far-right policies it was a strong economy in florida, low tax policies, good business and that has been chipped away. >> as we are leading into the primary, we know that's different than a general election. what's fascinating is we see and hear from other moderate republicans, pointing out to

jake tapper the culture wars are fine. if that's your top priority that's a problem because there are other issues, the economy, fiscal responsibility, that the party seems to have lost sight of. the question at this point, is there room for that within the scope, right, within the scope of the republican party at this point? >> that's the key question because for a lot of people it's wish casting. they wish that they were making those priorities. in donald trump's version of the republican party it's not necessarily wokeness that has been the kind of cohesive ideology but grievance, the retribution, it has been being an enemy to the enemies and that has been what's drawn people towards him. the problem for desantis is are you outgrievancing donald trump? >> outgrievancing? >> and that's what he is trying to do. get people to say, okay, if you are looking for a way to thumb your nose at your enemies, i am not guy, not donald trump. that's a different kind of calculation that i think we have

seen before but it's a reality that in this version of the republican party, that is the bind that's holding things together. tlos not really evidence that there is room for that economic-driven message we have seen the sununu and other moderate republicans taking the onus is on them to prove there is an electorate for those ideas rather than the other folks. >> that's important because we talk about base voters on -- and what we forget is any registered republican who you can con vinc to turn out in a primary is a primary voter, is a base voter. desantis is catering to the most traditional further right lane in a primary. but there are a lot of voters who could be activated in early primary states who wait to vote republican until the general. that's the lane that a chris sununu needs to take. turn out voters who don't generally turn out in a primary. >> we heard him say on cnn on sunday morning governor sununu

he will decide in the next week or two if he is are you running for president. he said the challenge -- he already has the family onboard. so he just has to make the decision. he sounds more likely than not to jump in from listening to his interviews. but interesting. governor of new hampshire, ron desantis is going to new hampshire this week. how dez he play in a state like new hampshire? >> you know, usually this is a time of national consensus building, national narrative. they have been pointing to the amount of organizers that the super pac has in the early states of thinking he can turn out evangelicals. new hampshire is a unique place, you know. the size forces those individual questions. those voters in new hampshire feel like they deserve those individual interactions with candidates and that's not really ron desantis' strong suit. when he goes to a place like iowa and new hampshire we are going to see a test of his individual retail politics and

getting off of those talking points because he has built his brand in the safe space of conservative politics and that's not how iowa and new hampshire operate. they are going to push governor desantis. >> is there a sense of how the campaign has been preparing him? we have been talking about it a lot. is that message getting through to ron desantis? >> i think they are trying. we saw in iowa before the official launch before there was interacting with voters and diners. on new hampshire, the state of new hampshire is the size of some congressional districts. you can physical ly shake almos every hand in that state. so i think that's going to be a challenge. i think there is a iowa-centric strategy for the desantis timteam and that is a state where the cultural issues, anti-lbgtq issues will play very well. i think it gets harder in the later primary states. >> that abortion question specially is something that desantis tried to push in iowa because there is that evangelical base there.

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>> reporter: well, good morning, poppy. according to the court order, elizabeth holmes is to report to the federal facility that you see behind me no later than 2:00 p.m. today. it's unclear if she has read the inmate handbook p but all 82 pages are available online and those are the rules and regulations that she will have to abide by for the next 11 years. >> i believe the individual is the answer to the challenges of health care. >> reporter: elizabeth holmes, the disgraced founder of theranos, is set to trade in her trademark black turtleneckis fo a prison jumpsuit after multiple failed appeals to keep her out of priz in. a mother of two, set to report in bryan, texas, today. the minimum security women's prison is approximately 100 miles from houston, texas, and houses more than 600 inmates, according to the federal bureau of prisons.

>> the rate to protect the health and well being of every person of those we love is a basic human right. >> reporter: holmes was 19 years old when she dropped out of stanford to pursue her start of theranos full time. once valued at $9 billion, at its peak theranos attracted an impressive list of investors and retail partners with claims it had developed technology to test for a wide range of medical conditions using just a few drops of blood. >> so this is the little tubes that we collect the samples in. we call them the nano tainer. >> reporter: holmes appearing on magazine covers and was hailed as the next steve jobs. >> i have always believed that the purpose of building a business is to make an impact in the world. >> reporter: the company began

to unravel after a "wall street journal" investigation in 2015 reported that theranos had only ever performed roughly a dozen of the hundreds of tests it offered using its proprietary technology and reqwith questione accuracy. investors and retail partners backed out and in june of 2018 holmes pleaded not guilty, ultimately indicted for fraud, before being convicted last year. her rise and fall depicted in the hit hulu show "the dropout." despite her conviction, holmes told "the new york times" she plans to work on health care-related inventions behind bars. i still dream about being able to contribute in that space. now, back to that inmate handbook. those 82 pages, it states that once holmes turns herself in, she will go through a social and medical screening that all inmates have to maintain a job,

that the pay range is between 12 cents and 40 cents. it's unclear if that's per hour. that's what i'm assuming. it's not clear based on that handbook. it also says that initially all inmates are assigned to the food service area. now, poppy, it also says that inmates wake up at 6:00 a.m. every morning and have to make their own bed. >> thank you for the reporting there. appreciate it. this just in. travelers packed u.s. airports over the memorial day holiday weekend surpassing even those pre-pandemic levels. cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean is live in washington. there was some expectation we could see these higher numbers. give you us the latest. >> airlines have passed the test here, erica, and that's the big headline. not only were cancellations low, but airlines carried 300,000 more people over the memorial day holiday compared to 2019 back before the pandemic.

the tsa just told us it screened 2.58 million people at airports nationwide yesterday. that was the second of two waves. people come home. people leaving home was even bigger, 2.72 million people screened at airports nationwide on friday. that's the highest number we have seen since 2019. day after day, the numbers were bigger than pre-pandemic figures. a lot of huge superlatives there. 700 cancellations in total between thursday and monday. when you take a five-day period and compare to the same period last year, airlines canceled 2,700 flights, kicked out these cascading meltdowns that lasted all summer long. 55,000 in total between memorial day and labor day. this past weekend was a quarter of what we saw last year. spoke to scott of going and he said that this is really critical. it shows that the airlines did a pretty good job here but they can't let their guard down going

through the summer. listen. >> i think we can say without reservation that airlines have passed the test. i am hopeful that means we are gonna have a pretty good summer when it comes to flying. >> we have rush after rush ahead. july 4th, labor day. the top driver of delays and cancellations is the weather. that's the "it" factor when it comes to the summertime. we will see how airlines handle the thunderstorms that come through, can throw things off. a domino effect that can cause cancellations and delays systemwide. >> and that is out of their control. air new zealand says it's going to start weighing passengers before they board the plane on certain flights. this is not the little puddle jumpers where anybody who has taken those flights, you get plac placed where you need to be. this is so they can gather data on weight load and distribution of planes. what do you know? what do you think it will really

tell them? >> the good news here is that this is not in the u.s. and this is a pretty limited trial run. air new zealand only doing this on flights from auckland until july 2nd. the airline really needs to set a new baseline here for what it considers the standard weight of passengers. the good news here in the u.s. is it's already happened for a long time the faa considered the standard weight of a person on an air lplane 170 pounds in the summer, 17 # in the wintertime when they are carrying more coats and bags. in 2021 it went from 190 in the summer to 195 in the wintertime. people are getting bigger and carrying more things, people incentivized to bring carry-ons onboard of a plane. that's why the food staa did ite u.s. >> my children have to fit it in the overhead and carry it themselves.

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as you get your morning started, here are five things to know. drones striking the heart of russia. the kremlin is accusing ukraine of attacking moscow with at least eight drones. the ukrainians are denying direct involvement. the debt limit deal about to face the first hurdle today. deciding whether that bill will make it to the floor. nine people shot, including a 1-year-old child in hollywood, florida. at least one person detained in that shooting. a ninth survivor more than 24 hours after an apartment building partially collapsed in davenport, iowa. the rescue came after city officials made plans to demolish the building. a kansas city teenager shot in the head after ringing the wrong doorbell, ralph yarl participated in a fundraising walk to raise money for people dealing with brain injuries. those are the five things to know this morning. download the five things podcast every morning, cnn.com/five

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including the buzzer beater game six in miami which forced everybody back to boston. but it turned out in the end celtics didn't have it in them to get it done. so the heat making history. first time in 24 years that an eighth seed has won a conference championship. so now it is on to the finals where they will face the denver nuggets. first time the nuggets are in the finals. seventh appearance for the heat. a lot of numbers, but also a lot of heart and excitement about this team. there has been so much talk about jimmy butler, not just with my teenage boys, but i do love his whole story. he ends up mvp for the eastern conference finals. >> for the finals. >> and he vowed that he would get them over the hump and he really did. >> not to change that narrative, but last night was a letdown because game six was so excite being and you had the chance for history, celtics perhaps coming back from the 0-3 deficit.

but even if the heat had won, it was not a dramatic or exciting game. they took charge of it in the first quarter and never let up. celtics were never really in the game. now boston fans have to put up with this, bruins had the best regular season in nhl history and they lost to the panthers who are now in the finals. celtics were overwhelming favorites and had the seventh game at home and they lose to the heat. so two heartbreaks for boston fans. meanwhile the heat and the panthers are in the nba and stanley cup finals respectively. it has never happened in the history of both leagues where teams from the same city or basic area won both the stanley cup and nba championship in the same year. in 1994, the rangers won the stanley cup and knicks were up on the rockets 3-2 in the nba finals but houston won game six and seven in houston. so that has never happened.

>> this could be huge. >> and both would be very large un underdogs, heat and thapanthers. >> so much is always made of home court advantage. >> and not in this series. celtics won two of three in miami and the heat won three out of four including game seven in boston. so you play all year long for home court advantage our oem ice adva home ice advantage and sometimes it doesn't prove to be much of an advantage at all. >> heat also a little bit of an underdog team in some ways. i love a good underdog story. so i love to see that happen. but great the message that it sends about who they are as a team. >> and erik spoelstra who kind of for a long time was perceived as just being pat riley's sort of, i don't know how you would put it, like riley is really

running the team. but spoelstra has been there for so long and done so well, he now ranks among the best nba coaches. apparently there is a culture th there, and i won't pretend to be there on a day in day out basis, but they have a culture there that works. and when they lost game six at home in ridiculous fashion with one tenth of a sechinond to go, everybody thought they would be completely deflated. they are going to boston for game seven. and spoelstra said immediately after, we can't wait to play game seven. we wish it would tip off right now. we're good to go. there was no hang dog aspect. so that is the right message to send. meanwhile the nuggetss have almost two weeks of rest. and i'd rather have rest -- people talk about they are rusty and out of rhythm. i'd rather have the rest. here now the heat have to turn

around and go to the altitude of denver for the first two games against nikola jokic and the nuggets who are a very, very good team. >> and let's talk about jokic. this is his biggest stage for sure. jimmy butler obviously has a lot of the attention. but how do you expect nikola jokic to perform? >> he is a two time mvp, finished second this year in the voting to joel embiid. around the nba, it is already known, this is a multi skilled player. at first glance he doesn't appear to be that athletic, whatever the heck that is supposed to mean. larry bird didn't appear to be all that athletic and he was one of the greatest players of all time. jokic has a bag of tricks if that is the way to put it. he does things -- he shoots the ball from distance, he has an inside game, he is one of the best players in recent history. >> so a lot to watch.

before we let you go, there was a lot made before the season started about some of the changes with major league baseball. larger bases. and games are faster. they are ending 30 minutes quicker, more bases being stolen. ultimately is that working out? >> yeah, it is working out almost exactly the way they intended. it is not just the length of games, which as you say are about a half hour shorter,s it is the pace of games. i did a game a couple weeks ago in st. louis, cardinals beat the dodgers 16-8, it lasted barely more than three hour, like three hours four minutes. no one complains because there was so much action and so much stuff going on. but you shouldn't have a 2-1 game that the home team wins and you play 8 1/2 innings and that lasts 3 1/2 hours which is what was happening. baseball is supposed to have a pleasing leisurely place, not a plo

plodding lethargic pace. and so now the guy has to range to his left or right and you see more exciting plays. and they increased size of the bases. some people liken them to pizza boxes. but what really has increased, you are only allowed to throw over twice to change the runner back during any given at bat. so that allows the base runner to be a little more adventurous. >> great to see you. thank you. we'll be right back.

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♪ i know ♪ time for your morning moment. a look at last night's manhattan hedge, lighting up the streets of new york city. for four days the sun aligns perfectly between the spaces of the buildings. it lasts only a few minutes when the beam of light shoots through the streets. spectators can catch it again tonight about 8:12 p.m. eastern time. i've never seen it. i didn't know it existed. i go to bet at 8 8:00. i'll stay up and see it. >> but you might not be able to see it at your house. but a lot of people post pictures about it. >> thanks. we'll see you tomorrow. "cnn news central" is now.