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the battle for votes and mccarthy's first big test all happening right now on capitol hill. lawmakers meeting over this debt deal with some hard line republicans and the speaker isn't just fighting for support on his agreement. he could be fighting to keep his job. and moscow is rocked. drone attacks hitting residential buildings in the
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residential capital, at the same time kyiv is facing a bombardment overnight. we'll have the latest from the front lines. and this could turn your stomach a little bit. a new report from the cdc is highlighting how restaurant workers who handle food while they were sick themselves are actually one of the leading drivers of food borne illness outbreaks. we are following these developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central. in just minutes, a deal to raise the debt ceiling and avert a catastrophic u.s. default will finally be in front of lawmakers. a cankey house committee is tak up the bill but all afternoon we've been hearing from angry republican hard liners threatening to strip mccarthy of
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the speaker's gavel for the concessions he made. moments ago, mccarthy sounded unfazed. >> i'm not sure what in the bill people are concerned about. >> cnn's lauren fox has been tracking all of this from capitol hill. lauren, is this grandstanding or do they actually have the votes here to threaten mccarthy? >> well, conservatives are clearly angered by some of the provisions that ended up in this bill and some of the provisions that did not end up in this bill, arguing that it is a far watered down version of the house debt ceiling bill that was passed just a few weeks ago that they believed speaker mccarthy should have stuck to in these talks with president joe biden. so while there are a number of members of the house freedom caucus who are threatening to vote against this bill, the expectation, if it can get to the house floor, and that remains an if, is that they will have strong numbers on the republican side. in just a few minutes, the house rules committee is expected to
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convene. they will discuss this bill and we expect there could be some problems among conservatives on that committee, both chip roy as well as ralph norman have suggested that they could vote against it. however, there's another conservative who could be a key and important vote. that's thomas massey. he said earlier today that he was not going to publicly say how he was voting, but in previous comments from just a few months ago, he did note that if the majority of his conference was supportive of something, he wouldn't necessarily stop it in the house rules committee. so when i asked kevin mccarthy just a few minutes ago if he was confident he was going to have the republican votes he needed in that committee. as to how thomas massey was going to vote, he said ask thomas. i also asked mccarthy more about if he feels like his speakership is going to be threatened if he puts this bill on the house floor tomorrow. he told me, quote, you guys ask me all the time.
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i'm still standing. boris. >> yeah, standing but with a razo razor-thin margin there. some of the harshest rhetoric aimed at speaker mccarthy is coming from the freedom caucus and specifically one of its members, dan bishop. here he was just a short time ago speaking to cnn's manu raju. >> how much confidence do you have in the speaker right now? >> none. zero. what basis is there for confidence? you cannot forfeit the tool of republican unity. it was not necessary to do. >> is the speaker lying about the way he's characterizing this bill? >> yes, he's lying. >> and republican congressman dan bishop is joining us right now. as we are actually in the middle of a house rules committee waiting to see how that is going to turn out, sir. thanks for your time today. you said today that a motion to oust mccarthy as speaker is on the table if this debt ceiling
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deal goes to the floor for a vote. are you going to make good on that threat? >> well, we'll see, brianna. i always work with others. my view is it's going to have to be done, but the more important thing in hand is the legislation that's before us. and i'm working intensively. you mentioned there are a number of us that are freedom caucus members or more appropriately were among the 20 in january contesting the speaker's race on which we have a brass tax deal to go forward but there are other members of the republican conference, nancy mace, mike waltz, others who are coming out saying that this deal cannot be done. the republican conference needs to now salvage us from this error before it's too late. raises the debt nobody knows how much for just unlimited increase for two years. people guess four trillion, could be higher, could be five.
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the american people wouldn't be interested in the trivial and sort of cosmetic fakey little concessions to republicans that are in there that really don't amount to a hill of beans. they'd understand that massive increase in debt that every man, woman and child of the united states will have to bear for generations. it just can't be done that way. >> i asked you if you would make good on your threat. we heard you in that clip with manu calling the speaker a liar. you were saying that this will be the divining vote of your colleagues' careers. why wait and see? why would you not make good on that threat to can mccarthy if you really do mean that? >> you know, it's always interesting. you want to focus on the question of mccarthy's speakership. what's more important is what happens to the american people. that's why i'm focused on the legislation. that's what's important now. at some point in time the forfeiture of republican unity,
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the sort of gross failure to negotiate this competently, it's got to be dealt with for republicans to be able to resume that. but the first thing that can happen is more than half the republican conference can vote against this legislation so we've got a core around which we can reform the unity. they told us we couldn't pass a plan on the floor with 218 votes because we're so fractious. only when kevin goes in to negotiate with joe biden does he get his head handed to him and we've got to clean up from that. it's got to be dealt with. >> so i want you to listen to part of what we just heard speaker mccarthy say. we isolated a very important part and here it is. >> i'm not sure what in the bill people are concerned about. >> you said it vocally and specifically you said it right here. you've said it before, a number of things. you oppose the irs money. the things that are not in the bill, the lack of real spending
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reforms. why do you think he's ignoring what you and other republicans are saying, clearly? >> you'd have to ask kevin. i want to correct one thing. you said i called kevin a liar. i said he lied. a little bit of a difference there. i specifically gave the example, he said 1.9 billion of the 80 billion democrats provided for the irs is being eliminated. it's 1.4. but it nixed their hiring of agents for 2023. that's false. it takes 1.4 billion out of that pie of 80 billion. he's told the american people we're fulfilling our obligation, which he made priority number one to cut back that irs money so that we don't have an army of irs agents eating out the substance of americans, to use the language in the declaration of independence. so he's -- he did -- he's misstated it.
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he hasn't come out and said i'm sorry, that's a misstatement. the bill is chockful of those kind of things. regulatory pay/go they call it to restrain the damaging and costly administrations. >> sir, and i hear you, what you're saying about the irs money. i do want to ask, because i just have a limited amount of time here, just to draw our viewers' attention to what we're seeing on the wall. this is the rules committee hearing, this is live, this is what's going on. key in this vote is going to be congressman massey. he may be the deciding vote here, the key gop vote on this rule committee. and he did, sir, tell nbc that he will decide whether he votes to move this to the full floor after speaking to his wife. i wonder what you would say to him as he is considering his decision? >> thomas massey is one of the finest members here. he is an extremely
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independent-minded person. he'll make the decision that he makes. everybody -- i respect the decisions that people make. what i want to do is before we get to the point where it's irretrievable, we convince enough republicans to give this a real hard look and to think about it and reflect on the fact that pramila jayapal said she liked it. somebody on the biden administration says it locks their successes into place. republicans need to think carefully because this is a career-defining vote. >> progressive democrats, to be clear, a number of them have big problems with this and a number of them are not going to get behind it, just to be very clear about that. there's not some sweeping democratic support for this, we just need to be clear. i do want to ask you and, yes, i am fixating on the security of the speaker's job because i do think that whether your threat has teeth is key to the strength of your position. notably we heard from congressman perry, the head of
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the freedom caucus. he didn't say that the entire group is behind ousting mccarthy if this deal proceeds. he basically told reporters they would need to ask members of the house freedom caucus individually where they stood on that. is there a split in the freedom caucus? >> i guess we would have had to have discussed it to know whether there's a split or not, brianna. at this point in time we haven't had the time to do that because wore focusing all of our effort from saving americans from this enormous mistake. >> so why not dispel me of what i just said then? >> why are you fascinated by that, brianna? >> i am, because isn't it important to your position? i mean if you're going to have strength in your position as a group that you do stand firm on this threat? >> there's been no lack of firmness in the group of people that i've been with. we need to develop some firmness in the republican conference so they can respond to the problem
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that we have before us. there's plenty of time to get back to in due course the subject that you're fascinated by, but what i'm interested in is dealing with this deal that will pile $32,000 if the 4 trillion dollar number is right, $32,000 on the head of every man, woman and child in the united states to go with the 250,000 that's already piled up. that's what's critical. >> we're just trying to see where that sentiment is about getting rid of speaker mccarthy because that's something that factors large in his mind. congressman, really appreciate your time today. thank you. >> thank you, brianna. >> jim. >> all fair questions, right? getting it past the marker initially was not exactly an easy lift. great interview there. overseas now, russia's war on ukraine has entered a new degree of fighting. for the first time the capital cities of both countries under attack at the very same time. there's also civilian areas of
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moscow that have been targeted since vladimir putin ordered his forces to invade ukraine just over a year ago. the russian ministry of defense says it shot down eight drones over the city. it's blaming ukraine. this plume of smoke is the aftermath of one of those. [ speaking non-english ] >> so far thankfully no deaths reported. there have been some injury reports. drone debris has damaged several buildings there. russia is blaming ukraine, as i said, and its interior ministry has issued arrest warrants for two senior ukrainian commanders. but an advisor to ukraine's president issues this statement saying, quote, we enjoy watching and predicting an increase in attacks, but of course we have nothing to directly do with it, referring to those drone attacks. in the meantime, ukraine's capital has been bombarded for days, really throughout the war.
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the 17th aerial assault by russia just this month. sam kiley is in eastern ukraine. sam, vladimir putin responding to this, calling them something along the luines of terrorist attacks, also claiming some of them were shot down. i wonder when you speak to ukrainian officials there, they're issuing something of a denial saying no direct involvement. is that in your view a complete denial? >> no, it isn't, is it, jim. it's an indirect involvement that might be interesting. might be something that the ukrainians have had. they had a very direct/indirect involvement in the russian citizens that attacked or conducted raids using ukrainian weapons and american vehicles given to ukraine just last week in belgorod region which has
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been according to the local authorities there also attacked with the local government claiming that we can't verify this, one civilian has been killed from ukrainian shelling in that same area. this is part of the shaping operations that are going on, the head of the ukrainian counteroffensive, but clearly attacks in moscow are going to seriously rattle the system. it's quite striking. if we listen to vladimir putin, he could be quoting zelenskyy who's been making similar statements about the attacks on his capital. take a listen. >> translator: kyiv chose the path of intimidation of russian citizens and attacks on residential buildings. it is a clear sign of terrorist activity. the moscow air defense system worked satisfactorily, however, there is still work to be done to make it better. >> reporter: one person killed in kyiv, a 33-year-old woman, by -- as a consequence of the
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effective use of air defense in kyiv with a missile being shot down, unfortunately killing one person. so you see we now got a tit for tat in both countries. the difference being that not since the beginning of this war has anybody in moscow been made to feel unsafe. no russian that deep into russian territory could have imagined that ukraine indirectly was capable of reaching the russian capital, jim. >> well, we should note cnn is reporting there is at least a low confidence assessment from the u.s. that ukraine was behind that drone attack on the kremlin some weeks ago. sam kiley in eastern ukraine, thanks very much. still to come on "cnn news central," russia's famous and perhaps cutest potential spy spotted off the coast of norway. government officials warning people to stay away for the whale's own good.
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we'll tell you where it is headed and why experts are convinced it is on putin's payroll. plus anger in iowa. families pleading with officials to search for their loved ones in the rubble of a partially collapsed apartment building. we're learning five people are still unaccounted for. and it looks like a crab and a cockroach had a baby and it's said to taste like lobster. make the 14-legged crustacean making waves among foodies. would you take a bite?
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say so myself. cnn's melissa bell is following the story for us. melissa, this is a beluga whale to be clear. now he's on the move. what can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right, an alleged russian spy and a beluga whale. first spotted off the coast of norway and already far from home. he was found to be wearing a harness on which you can mount a camera which had the inscription equipment of st. petersburg which led to maybe he's part of demining in the arctic sea. now he's heading south, far from northward, he's heading southward all the way to the coast of sweden. that's what people are worried about. not just that he's headed for waters that are too warm for him
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but he's too friendly. of course as he's gone, he's been capturing the hearts of scandinavians who have nicknamed him a contraction of the name for whale in norwegian and vladimir, of course, a suggestion that he may indeed come from russia. so very close attention being placed on this whale and its surveil at the stage. no one really knowing how are they going to go about protecting him from himself and his friendliness, brianna. >> the thing about this whaledimir is it's brought to light something which has been brought to light which is marine mammals being used for military purposes. this isn't actually new, melissa. >> reporter: that's right. it may sounding like science fiction but it's not. in the cold war both the u.s. and soviet union had these types of programs. even today the united states navy uses sea lions and dolphins. these animals are extremely good
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at detecting sounds and useful in demining operations. they're still being used by russia today. in fact it was just after the annexation of crimea in 2014 that moscow announced that it was not just confiscating annexing crimea but ukraine's combat dolphin program. and in fact what images showed just after the invasion of ukraine last year were these dolphin pens that appear to be set up just off of what is the largest russian naval base in the black sea. that of course lends weight to the credibility of the theory that this might also be a marine mammal that escaped from these pens, this time in russia's arctic. what no one can understand is whether he's headed that far south because he's looking for a mate or simply because this whale is lonely and looking for human attention, which at this stage he appears to be getting, brianna. >> he's just looking for a friend but we hope that he stays
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safe as he goes looking for that. melissa bell, thanks for the report. boris. it is yet another sign of how cooled relations are right now between the united states and china. beijing is rejecting a proposal for defense secretary lloyd austin to meet with his chinese kou counterpart at an upcoming security conference. oren liebermann has more. what is this all about? >> boris, this goes back to essentially how china signals its displeasure. we've seen them do this before, cutting off levels of communication when they are angry about something. a good example would be former speaker of the house nancy pelosi's visit to taiwan last summer. right after that visit china cut off a number of different levels of dialogue, including military to military, including important conversations about climate. this looks to be an extension of that. defense secretary lloyd austin was trying to set up a meeting with his chinese counterpart,
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the minister of national defense, who's been in the position for a few months now but there hasn't been any real dialogue or communication between the two. this would have been a good opportunity to do that in singapore. the u.s. had reached out to do that. after not responding to the u.s. for some time, china rejected that. they're still essentially what looks like very angry under the fact that he was under u.s. sanctions for dealing arms for russia. they want those sanctions lifted. the u.s. position is that they can have the meeting even with those sanctions. >> a difficult chapter in relations between those two nations. oren liebermann from the pentagon, thanks so much. officials say at least five people remain unaccounted for after an apartment collapse in iowa. some family members convinced their loved ones are still inside. we'll have the latest on the search there. so i choose neuriv. unlike some others, neuriva a plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp.
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angry protesters have gathered outside city hall in davenport, iowa, pleading with officials to hold off on demolishing the rest of a partially collapsed apartment building. a portion of the structure gave way on sunday and a ninth person was rescued last night. police say five people are still unaccounted for today, and at
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least two could be inside. so now officials face an excruciating decision. residents are holding out hope for more survivors, but the fire marshal says what is left of the building could collapse and it needs to be torn down. listen. >> it's -- sorry, it's extremely difficult. you can't run up to a pile of bricks and rocks. and just start throwing things off. as much as we want to, we want to get everybody out, and we want to do it right now. >> obviously an emotional decision. officials said the original plan was to demolish the building today, but they aren't doing that just yet. they are, quote, continually evaluating the timing of the
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demolition. jim? well, elizabeth holmes has now reported to a federal prison in texas. the former biotech executive surrendered just in the last hour. you can see her arriving, even smiling a little bit as she began her sentence. she founded theranos. in november a judge sentenced her to more than 11 years in prison for fraud and conspiracy. this after she raised many millions of dollars from investors while making false claims about her company. rosa flores is outside the prison in bryan, texas, and was there as holmes arrived. tell us what the rules are going to be inside while she's there. >> reporter: well, you know, her hopes and dreams might not match her reality inside, jim, because she told "the new york times" that she's hoping to continue working on her health care-related inventions while she is serving time in the facility that you see behind me.
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even telling "the new york times" i still dream about being able to contributing in that space. here's her reality in a document that's available to the public. it's an inmate handbook. it specifically states that once he turns herself in, she will receive a social and also a medical screening. that will determine the unit that she will be assigned to. it also states that every single inmate must maintain a job. they have work hours, and that they're paid it appears to be her hour, up to 40 cents. it also says when an individual first enters this facility, they most likely will be assigned to the food service area. now, her hope and dream was to continue doing this type of research, but this also says -- this handbook says that she will not have access to the internet, the number of photos and magazines or books, jim, will be limited. she will be waking up every day at 6:00 a.m., mopping her own floor, making her own bed.
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jim. >> a dose of hard, hard reality. rosa flores in bryan, texas. emotional moments in federal court today where the suspected gunman in the deadliest anti-semitic attack in u.s. history is on trial and potentially facing the death penalty. we'll have the latest. when you sleep more deeply, you wake up more energized. introducing purple's new mattresses our unique gel flex grid draws away heat, helping you fall asleep faster. it relieves pressure for less “ow,” and more "ahhh.” and instantly adapts as you move, without ever disturbing your partner. amazing. sleep better. live purple. save $800 off mattress sets at our memorial day event. visit purple.com or a store near you.
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florida, say they have now arrested two people and are looking for three others. this after a mass shooting near that city's boardwalk. we've also learned that six of the nine people injured yesterday remain in the hospital. among the wounded is a 1-year-old. also in florida, petition expected to be presented at a school board meeting this evening requesting that board member shannon rodriguez step down. rodriguez allegedly filed a complaint against a teacher for showing her class the disney film "strange world" which has a gay character. her complaint triggered an investigation by the school district and the early retirement of the teacher who showed that movie. and in mississippi, the family of an 11-year-old boy who was shot by a police officer has now filed a $5 million lawsuit. the child suffered fractured ribs, a lacerated liver, had to be put on a ventilator as well after a collapsed lung. his family is also demanding
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that the officer be charged. i spoke with the family's lawyer in the last hour and they also want the police chief fired as well. brianna. all right, jim, thank you so much. emotional moments in court today as the trial began for the man charged with killing 11 worshippers at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. the 2018 massacre was the deadliest ever single attack on an american jewish community. cnn's jake tapper is covering all of this next hour on "the lead." a lot of attention and it's been so long since this has come to what may be a resolution for some of these families. what's played out so far today in the courtroom? >> well, there isn't any disagreement that the defendant committed the crime. the big question is whether or not -- my analysis is what the motivation was and that's more in an effort to avoid the death penalty. but let's start with what the prosecution said. the prosecution is making it very clear this is an
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anti-semitic bigot in their view and he was out to commit a hate crime. they wrote bowers hated jews. he called them the children of satan. juice a jews are cancers on the planet. and then describing his acts at the tree of life synagogue that horrible day, the prosecutor since once he entered he dwan to hunt, moved from room to room looking for jewish worshippers to kill. they really spent a lot of time today talking about his activities that day and the methodical way he carried out his horrific crime. >> do we get a sense of how the defense is trying to counter that? even if they are just trying to avoid the death penalty, how they focus on the motivation and trying to make out like it wasn't anti-semitism? >> well, it's not a question about whether it's anti-semitism. judy clark who is the defense
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attorney and often brought in in cases like this to try to spare the person's life, not to keep them locked up forever but to get the death penalty off the table and the death penalty is very much on the table here, she made the argument that there's more than meets the eye. she said, quote, there will be no question that this was a planned act. the prosecution said that robert bowers had a deep and abiding prejudice that he hated jews. we know there is more to the story. what we believe judy clark is setting the stage for is this horrific but not unknown conspiracy theory that george soros and other wealthy jews were funding the caravan. remember, this was october 2018 when some prominent politicians and prominent right-wing media outlets were talking about the caravan, talking about how george soros was funding this and the white replacement theory, the great replacement theory this is all jews and nonwhites coming to replace the
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demographic of america. i think the argument she's going to make is he was misguided, but he didn't come up with this. and we'll see if that works. >> yeah, that it's not just anti-semitism, that he was sort of swept up in something created by someone else. >> i tell you what i'll be watching out for is who is she going to cite as pushing forward and promoting this racist conspiracy theory? because there are a number of individuals on capitol hill and other places in prominence in washington, d.c., and elsewhere, and individuals on certain channels that pushed forward that conspiracy theory. >> that is going to be key. jake, thank you so much. we'll be with you here just in a few minutes. thank you. the head of the fbi versus the speaker of the house. the house is ticking. fbi director wray could be held in contempt of congress. we have the latest on that battle. and was it the sushi, maybe the chicken salad?
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house speaker kevin mccarthy says he's prepared to hold fbi director christopher wray in contempt of congress if he misses a subpoena deadline today to turn over an internal document from an alleged whistle-blower. the document claims then vice president biden was involved in a criminal scheme with a foreign national. with us is cnn's zach cohen. zach, mccarthy made a direct appeal to wray, really his
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strongest comments about the fbi and the fbi director to date. what is he says? >> this is an escalation by kevin mccarthy, holding the fbi director in contempt of congress. despite what's brewing between the house republicans and the fbi over a document that republicans say could provide evidence that links the president to a criminal scheme, the claims in this document are unverified and the credibility of the person behind them is in question. listen to what kevin mccarthy said on fox news about his desire to force the fbi to turn this document over. >> i personally called director wray and told him he needs to send the deadline, tell director christopher wray, if he misses the deadline today, i'm prepared to move contempt charges in congress against him. >> it's not unusual for these fights to happen between congress and various government
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agencies. probably not lost on anyone that it's happening today when there is a deadline. kevin mccarthy facing a lot of pressure from members of his own party about the debt agreement. it remains to be seen how they'll move forward. kevin mccarthy putting his name on this threat to hold the fbi director in contempt of congress if he doesn't supply with the subpoena. >> the speaker with his hands full. zachary cohen, thank you very much. coming up, would you eat this? i could give you a quick answer to that? it's a giant isopod, suddenly topping raman noodles in taiwan. we'll tell you about what they're calling a delicacy coming up. so adding a student titlee might feel daunting. national university is here to support all your titles. national university. supporting the whole you. the subway series is elevating your favorite subs. why mess with the sweet onion teriyaki, chuck? man, this aint messin', it's perfectin'! with marinated chicken and dole cheese. sweet and savory...
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so food poisoning, it happens often. it's from restaurants or caterers. a new report is telling us how it happens in first place. cnn's jacqueline howard is with us. what's the main culprit and is there anything you can do about it? >> it is interesting, jim. in this report cdc looked at 100 outbreaks of food-borne illness, the most common cause, norovirus infections, causing 47% of outbreaks in this report. salmonella came in second causing 18.6% of outbreaks. the report also shows that employees who handle food while sick or infectious appear to be drivers of some of these outbreaks. 41% of the food-borne illness outbreaks, they can be traced back to an employee expected to
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be inferks ous or sick at that time. the cdc 'em fa sighs the importance of staying home while sick, but also management and staff supporting that. fewer than half of establishments, 44% provided paid sick leave. this report really shows again how if workers are supported in staying home while sick, and if they actually do, that may help reduce the spread of these kinds of illnesses, jim. >> that's such a great point, how paid sick leaves matters. jacqueline howard, thank you for covering. if that story wasn't appetizing and made you hungry, how about this appetizing. a 14-legged giant crustacean is quickly becoming the hot new restaurant item in taiwan. take a look at that pretty face. >> yum. >> that's an isopod, looks like it's smiling. a distant cousin of crabs and
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prongs. $48 million for a bowl of raman topped with this exclusive delectable en agreed yenlt. one says the maet tastes like a cross between crab and lobster, a dense texture, chewiness. the chef says he has 100 people on the waiting list. now that brianna has heard about it, it's 101. we know she's a bit of a bug eater. >> here is an idea. if it tastes like crab and lobster, let's try crab and lobster. >> let's watch brianna enjoy some cicadas. >> are you ready? [ crunch ]. >> oh, the crunch. >> do i have a wing hanging out of my mouth? it's literally in there. >> it's not a wing. it's a leg. >> important distinction, wing or leg. how was that? >> it tastes like soft shell
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crab. >> which is really good. so get soft shell crab. >> you have to wrap your head around the fact of what it really is, which is a bug. >> a delicious bug. >> if you cook it with garlic and stuff. >> aren't crabs and lobsters the bugs of the sea? >> yeah. >> i couldn't do that big isopod. it looks like a big rollie pollie. that's where i draw the line. >> i'm going to keep a good ten miles -- >> let's get him on the wait list. the lead with jake tapper starts right now. we're watching the first major test of the biden-mccarthy debt deal. "the lead" starts right now. right now, right this moment legislation to raise the debt limit is
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