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>> we are watching capitol hill, where speaker mccarthy is set to speak as he faces criticism from federal republicans over the debt deal. i will hand off our coverage to alison camerota, hello, alison. >> i, pam, we will continue to watch that as well. good evening, everyone. i'm alison camerota, welcome to cnn tonight. while cabinet car-t tries to
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corral republicans on the debt deal, run desantis is in iowa, marking the first big speech of his presidential campaign and taking aim at the former president. >> now, he is attacking me over some of these disagreements. i think that he's doing it in a way that the voters are going to side with me. >> our panel will explain how all of this will play with the national audience. plus, a new study shows that the first 45 words of police officer says during a traffic stop of a black driver can predict how that encounter will end. i will talk to one of the researchers who discovered the warning signs of a police stop likely to escalate. remember the fifth grade florida teacher who is investigated for showing a disney movie with a gay character in it? as we speak, there is a heated school board meeting going on where parents and students have a lot to say about all of this. that teacher will join us straight from the board meeting. just a reminder, here is the
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controversial scene. >> in a sweethearts waiting for you back home? there it is. who isn't? >> it's no one. >> his name is diaz. >> i like kamala. >> i just don't know how to tell him. >> that explains everything. let's begin with governor ron desantis's big first speech of his presidential campaign. i'm here with us tonight, we have presidential history brinkley, natasha -- hall mchugh, host of the conversations podcast, and scott jennings, working with george w. bush. first, let us play for you guys what ron desantis just said. this is his first big speech, i also believe he's taking some questions from reporters there. he was talking about how president trump had gone after run desantis for his covid response, and he said that even
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governor cuomo of new york had handled covid much better than desantis. here is desantis's response now. >> if you say that cuomo did a better job with covid than florida did, first of, all is not what he used to say. this is new. six months ago, he would've never said that. he used to say how great florida was. heck, his whole family moved to florida under my governorship. are you kidding me? >> doug, beyond the entertainment value of watching donald trump and ron desantis go after each other, how this all played nationally? >> i think desantis had such a terrible rollout on twitter, a disaster. it's a time for redemption. he framed everything that he did tonight on american revival. meaning that he is trying to win over evangelical voters. he's trying to strip them away from donald trump. i was going to be a big deal for the caucus republicans. if anybody can beat donald trump in iowa, maybe desantis
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or anybody else, they have the chance to be the nominee, and coming number two out of iowa in support. desantis tonight, for the first time seems to be in realtime taking some swipes at trump. and particularly, saying that he would've fired fauci immediately. playing the apprentice thing. why did you keep a guy like fauci on? you can see that fauci will become initially some baggage for donald trump. fauci and the republicans fear. >> we have live shots right now over the response right now. but this is on capitol hill. these are republicans coming out of the debt deal. we are waiting to hear what has happened now with all of these negotiations, what is happening in terms of the vote with the debt deal. let's see if they will tell us something now, -- >> thank you everyone for your patience for being here tonight. house republicans just concluded a very productive and respectful conference meeting. members from all across the conference shared their support
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for the important bill, and they shared their re-sport for speaker mccarthy's strong and effective leadership. this is a win for the american people and future generations. last november, the american people sent a message strongly that they did not support the failed policies and reckless spending of single party democrat rule. they country interested house republicans with our vision of a commitment to america, to deliver results and rain in out of control spending, causing crippling affiliation. this is a fiscal responsibility act, a -- and holding washington accountable. this will be the largest deficit reduction in history. for the first time in a decade, spending year over year will be cut while still providing critical funding for veterans and national defense. this deal calls back tens of billions of unspent covid funds, the largest reduction combined in the history of congress. this will lift millions of americans out of poverty by
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strengthening work requirements. by earning the majority, house republicans have been underestimated by the media every day, we have been underestimated by the media this week. we will be tireless in keeping our promises and delivering results for the american people. as we do every week, we will be highlighting a freshman, and i am pleased to introduce derrick van orden from wisconsin. >> thank you. >> that was our congressman speaking about how they have reached this deal. we will hear more as soon as speaker mccarthy comes out. natasha, your thoughts as we listen? >> it's so interesting. i was wondering whether they would unite, because i think that the american people have seen so many moments of the extreme factions of the gop taking over. now out talking other members of the party, bringing all of this attention on them. even other messages about doing this for the american people. it felt like the stakes were pretty high for the gop to figure this out. lest this be a moment where democrats can spin it and say
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that you are essentially putting the entire country at risk for this ideological opportunity. kind of beating the drum. what's important is the work requirements for the media among us. expanding work requirements, it just seems like something that at a time like this when people are still recovering from the effects of covid and the pandemic, it sends an interesting message about what the priorities are, about who matters. there are exceptions there for veterans, for people that are houseless, but it just seems like it's such an interesting thing to make sure that that's a priority where you put people to work when there have been mixed studies and results about whether this actually helps to lift people out of poverty. why choose that as opposed to maybe taxing the wealthy or doing something else? they have united at a key moment, but again, there is an opportunity for democrats to highlight.
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this is what their priorities are. >> there are a handful of holdouts. the freedom caucus doesn't like this deal. let me just play for you earlier what they had said about how much faith they had in this. >> how much confidence do you have in the speaker right now? >> none. zero. what basis is there for confidence? >> is the speaker lying about the way he's characterizing this bill? >> yes. if there is a departure from that specific commitment, to have a minority or majority, that would be trouble for the speaker. >> scott, did their obstruction no matter? >> no, there's no drama here. it will pass by a wide margin. i think in both house and senate, these people criticizing kevin mccarthy, as if he can go out and order the president of the united states to have a position, or did the democrats who control the senate to have a position. they need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and understand one thing. the reason that they don't like this deal is not because kevin mccarthy, is because donald trump lost the white house, and
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donald trump's handpicked candidates for the senate lost the senate. that's why you don't like this deal. think ahead here. this is about politics, whether or not you can win elections. it's a miracle that kevin mccarthy has gotten anything at all, and this is a deal that any republican should be proud to vote for. some people in washington, and the posture, and some people are there to govern. kevin mccarthy is there to govern, and he's doing the best he can, patrolling one leg of a three legged stool. i think he's doing a pretty darn good job. the real issue here is that if you want to do better, when elections. that is the bottom line. >> coleman, there are people that think compromise equals defeat. >> not at all. the only people that think at are the super hard-line ideologues who would have been happy to see us default rather than -- [interpreter] look, this is our system. we have a democratic president, gop controls the house. you're going to end up with a compromised position. you're going to end up with that negotiation, if both sides leave completely happy, that's not a negotiation.
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we are going to end up with is a situation where the extremists on both sides are upset, and that is actually a good moderate outcome for the country and we get to issue that. that is a good thing. >> what do you think about what they have had to compromise on? they are apparently going to keep spending levels the same, 2024, as they are for this year. they are still rambling about the pentagon budget. as natasha pointed out, they have lots of different priorities. they chose some that won't work for everybody. >> who knows what they had to give up in order to get what they wanted. i think that from what i have just heard, they are doing a little bit of a spin job by saying they're cutting spending. they're not really cutting, it they're just not increasing it year over year. that is not the same is going back to pre-covid spending levels. i understand why they are doing that's been, but we should understand what it actually means. >> yes, doug? >> i think joe biden did a masterful job of getting this pulled off. it's for two years. you don't have to worry about
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the debt now for 2024. it freezes from being -- having to go through this in the middle of the election cycle. and the american people one. we are sending these people to washington to represent us and get things done. i think that history will teach this biden and mccarthy, these two catholic old style leaders in certain ways where they formed an ability to form that with each other. he played that grandstand very low. might be calling him -- but he's starting to get a lot of winds, getting this done is big for biden. >> scott, is that how you see it? >> well, with all due respect to the historian, the recent history of joe biden on this debt ceiling is that for six months, he has said that he will not negotiate, he will accept nothing but a clean debt ceiling, he tried his pet press secretary day with that message. at the end of the day, the reason that this negotiation took place is that kevin mccarthy in the republicans in
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the house passed a bill. they brought joe biden to the table, kicking and screaming. every day, week after week. there are no talks, nothing, no meetings. biden insisted that they would not be any negotiations at all. what happened is that he had to negotiate. there is a whole checklist of things here than any republican would be great to do. klein backed the irs money, climb back unspent covid money. the work requirements, oh my gosh, we're going to make able-bodied adults work for a living. these are great things for republicans. they would not have happened if joe biden had has his way. i really think this is a great win for the underestimated, often underestimated kevin mccarthy. i think that biden looks foolish, saying what he said for so long and having you go to the table. >> look, this is just another win for biden. he had the american rescue plan passed, he had the inflation reduction ships, he has been able to do bipartisan policymaking through congress, as you just said, these are like wing nuts on the right that you just throw under the bus.
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biden has had to deal with them. his style overlaying back, laying low has worked. it does not mean that i'm criticizing mccarthy. i am not. i think that he's served his party well. i think we can look at both mccarthy and biden as winners out of this process. >> that's a good assessment, they are certainly both acting that way. taking a victory lap on this. they reached, it sounds like, a compromise. we'll hear more when speaker mccarthy comes out. thank you all for that. there is also a school board meetings going on right now in florida that is a very heated. one of the topics is this teacher who showed her faith great class an animated disney movie with a gay character in it. we have a big update, next. one prilosec otc each morning blocks heartburn all day and all night.
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i think i've got it! doggy-paddle! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> they're hernando county, florida school board is holding a heated meeting right now after investigating a teacher that showed the disney filled, strange world to her fifth grade class. it's an animated movie about a family of explorers, and features a teenage character who's gay. when parents of a child in the class, who also happens to be a member of the school board, complained about this movie. that triggered not only a school board investigation of the teacher, but a review by the florida department of education. then, another teacher launched a petition to have that school board member shannon rodriguez removed from the school board.
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tonight, they are all haggling over all of that. my panel is here with me, also joining us is the writer -- treat to have you back. also, we've got that fifth grade teacher, who you spoken to two weeks ago. jenna barbee, hers showing the movie. she's on the phone with us straight from tonight's meeting, she's just gone out to talk to us. janet, great to talk to you. what's happening in this school board meeting? how heated isn't? >> it's pretty chaotic. you've got to school board members who are on one side with a small group called moms for liberty that is very anti everyone. you then have a large group of everyone else. and the other school board members fighting for equality among our students. >> one of the school board members, as we've discussed, her name is shannon rodriguez. she's the woman who complained when you showed that disney her. has her faith been decided yet?
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>> no. it's not really how this works. in order to do, that you would have to go through this voting process where you have to get 8% of the votes or something like that. i am not really sure about that. it's not that easy. >> and do you have any sense of whether or not she's going to lose her position? >> the most immediate action would be if the governor took her off. i think that he's kind of right on board with her perspectives. >> here's your perspective. let me play for you what she said tonight at the school board meeting about why she doesn't like basically what you did, showing the film, as well as the other curriculum that she thinks is being taught in this school district. >> i do not want to have equity and inclusion in our schools. we want to keep our schools traditional the way that they were. we don't want any of the woke
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or indoctrination. with that being said, -- >> easy. >> thank you. >> it is the adults that are propagating the racism. is not the kids doing this. it is teaching racism. they are recant packaging crt, and they are just renaming it. if you want your kid to learn certain beliefs, send them to that type of school. in a public school that is supported by the taxpayer, that should be teaching education, not indoctrination. i will never agree with any of these types of programs. i am not going there. that is not something that i think that our kids are ever going to benefit from. like i said, i was elected to support our kids, and to make sure that our kids get a good education. education without any of the indoctrination. >> all right, jenna, your thoughts? your response to that? >> it's not indoctrination. me showing the movie, the movie had a character who talked about his crush.
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it is just showing that it is an accepted thing if you are gay. i don't see what the problem with that is. there's not a doctor nation. indoctrination is telling people that they have to have a set of values, or that a set of values is not okay if you take them away. indoctrination is now representing the equality, representing everyone. >> what were the student saying? i understand there are some statistic out of to speak. what relay saying tonight? >> every student they got up to speak was highly frustrated on the situation. they were talking about how they deserve to have a choice, and that taking away their right to be represented when they are part of their communities, it's not okay. it's telling them that they're not only not belonging, but it results in people telling them they're not accepted, that is not okay to be who they are. >> you and i talked before, about two weeks ago, but how are you feeling tonight about the fact that one parent can have it complaint and it spokes
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an investigation and you have to rethink your curriculum. you have to rethink your career choice. the fact that one parent is able to have that kind of power. what are your thoughts on that? >> it's scary for all teachers. they want more teachers to teach, but they're not allowing teachers to teach. in so they think that we can just keep math, science, social studies, and reading. but in order to connect the curriculum to real life, we have to be able to branch off and connect the topics. 90% of the socialization of the students's at school. by telling teachers that they just have to stick to what the textbook says, it's literally impossible. >> yes. i remember you telling us that you wanted to show that movie because you're very into environmentalism, earth sciences, that's the theme of the movie. again, did you know that you are breaking the guidelines when you should that movie? >> no. i did not even know about the don't say gay bill. i didn't know that it had been extended.
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i don't know anything about it. until all of this happened. i didn't technically -- our administration was to have a signed parent permission slip of the beginning of the school year. i had that. two days later, they made it so that every single movie has to have a signed approval brought to you admin with his signature. that was because of my situation. >> and florida, i mean from our impression outside of florida, it's so stringent about these rules. why wasn't there a memo issued about every classroom from the governor about what the new guidelines were? >> i guess because -- i honestly don't know the answer to that question. i don't know if it's because our county didn't see it as a big deal or something, i honestly don't know the answer to that question. >> but you never got anything. you never got a memo or instructions of what you could do or so. >> but i think the whole state is confused done what exactly
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that bill or law represents. >> understood. jenna barbee, we will let you get back in there. thank you very much for taking the time to tell us what is happening right now. >> have a great evening. >> we'll be continuing to watch that meeting, let me bring in my panel. guys, great to have you here. i'll start with you because you are new to the panel. very interesting, because this is what we hear from teachers, saying that it is almost like they are self censoring. too much confusion in florida about what they are allowed to do that they decide, well, i just want to touch it. i just want touch, and i will show any movie that i was going to. i will bring up the conversation because i don't really know what i'm allowed to do. >> first of all, i'm assuming that the next school board meeting is when they banned dancing. all that the teacher did, it wasn't even about the acceptance of gay people. it was literally gay people existing. that is all that that particular scene was showing. gay people exist. the idea that people have an issue with a gay people existing in a disney film, and yet they're fine with talking
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lobsters and mermaids, candles the dance, things like that. they have the issue with that. when beauty and the beast came out, you're not going to boycott that. they clear active b.c. alithia against god's will. and yet this is an issue. this is what they want to have. it's also cruel to all of those children who are lgbtq in that school who are struggling to exist. they are struggling to come out, and you have a school board debating whether they should be able to exist in school. >> we'll go to our favorite former teacher, natasha. i go call upon you so often for this. this school board, as you can imagine, devolving into these heated debates where students are standing up and saying the same thing he said, you're trying to stamp out my existence. that's what this is. i have it for you. let me just play quickly what a couple of the students just said. >> i finally felt the need to
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make my voice heard. the school is said over and over again that they want what's best for the students. if this is true, why you are allowing them to feel even more unwelcome? -- >> instead of representing me and other lgbtq+ students, because, yes we exist. you instead have alienated and made us realize if our entire existence is an issue to you. my existence should not be an issue to you. come next election season, my vote will be. >> wow. the children will it lead us. i listened to that school board member, and i just felt that this is what anti-intellectual-ism feels like in america. this is what it looks like when a politician like ron desantis repeats the same talking points again and again, and you have a school board member with power who does not truly understand what she is saying. she is talking about indoctrination, talking about the woke agenda, all of these things that are misrepresentations of the truth. saying the crtc is in our classrooms, absolutely not true.
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because you heard ron desantis say it, because she heard donald trump say it, now she is exercising power at the local level. this is what we mean when we say that elections matter. we want teachers to be everything. teachers have to put their lives on the line for their children, at a time where mass shootings are rampant, and so they have to be g.i. jane in the classroom, but at the same time, they can't show a movie because they could lose their jobs. it is just an absolute insanity what we are seeing playing out in our classrooms. you can't legislate this. this is a total violation of what it means to have the american ideal of freedom that we have. this is the opposite of that. i think the children are reacting to that, the teachers are reacting to that, and the idea that it was a teacher who started this petition to get the school board members to stand down makes sense, because teachers are on the frontlines right now. >> paul, your thoughts? >> i think we can step back for a second look at how it is that we got here. why we are seeing the situations like this. there is a study of fcc data a
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couple years ago at the washington post, citing that they found among high school teachers, there are 87 democrats for every 13 republicans. among english teachers, it's 97 democrats for every three republicans. among health teachers, it is 99 to 1. there is a big gap between the politics of public school teachers and the politics of the public. inevitably, that is going to create tension. teachers are working for the public. there is a values gap. the question is, how do we address that? is the right way to address that the ron desantis, christopher rufo strategy of trying to write the laws that ban every idea that conservative parents don't like? no. we are seeing the results of that play out here with this port teacher the just wanted to show a silly movie with a gay character. it is sad. i think the conversation that we should be having is, how do we get some more political
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balance among our public teachers? so that's situations like this -- >> how do we get more republicans to want to become school teachers. there's that question. does that imbalance exist? we have ten seconds, your thoughts about why this is taking hold across the country? >> because of ron desantis making this woke his main issue in florida. it's become the ground zero. it is the place where they try to ban books on rosa parks for school kids. or a great novelist by tony morrison in florida. this is just another continuation of the desantis war on disney down there. >> thank you very much, friends. meanwhile, tonight there could be answers about how some police stops with black drivers become violently so quickly. that is next.
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>> in the first few words of a police officer's matt determine whether a traffic stop escalating violence? yes. a new study finds the traffic stops are much more likely to result in a search, handcuffing, or interest when police begin
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with a command to the driver rather than a question. researchers looked at the body cam footage of 577 stops involving black drivers, and found that the first 45 words from an officer or critical. case in point, the first moments when police approached george floyd reveal how quickly things can escalate. >> let me see your hands. stay in the car, let me see your other cars. let me see your other hands. both hands. put your hands are right now. let me see -- >> joining us now, one of the researchers in the study, eugene wrote, a computer science professor at virginia tech. professor, thank you so much for being here. since we're also familiar with
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that horrifying video, what do you see there? that was 56 seconds that we just played there. roughly the same, 45 seconds. what do you see there in those seconds? >> right. in our work, we discovered that isolated car stops have this unique signature, where the stoppage starts with an order or no reason for the stop. this leads us to explore if this pattern persisted in stops involving force. that's why we analyzed initial moments behind publicizing between george floyd and first responding officers that you just saw. we found that unless then the first 30 seconds of interaction between floyd and the officer, the officer had communicated 57 words over nine speech turns. all of which were physical orders. despite floyd's rapid turns of daylight consisting of -- apologies, request for reasons, please, expressions of fear. i gotcha, gotcha.
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each of these dialogues were met with one singular response and order. >> is it you are finding, is it true that when the first 45 words begin with commands instead of questions, often -- and i'm sure many of us have been pulled over, where do you live, what are you doing out there, can i see your license, where you headed, things like that, is it the command versus question that is the big distinction? >> it is the presence of certain dialogue acts versus the absence of others. it is the presence of orders in the absence of reason, explaining the stop. for black drivers, that linguistic signature functions as a predictive -- as a predictor of how they perceive the officer, what might happen next, as well as an anticipation and exhibit e over whether force will be used
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on them. >> that is interesting because i know that in part of your study, you had black drivers watch some of these exchanges. they have anxiety level, just watching, it before anything escalated, went up but when it started with commands. tell us about what their response was watching it. >> yes. in a study, we had black male adult participants in the united states listen to audio recordings of ten right randomized car stops that escalated and five they did not we. ask them about their feelings and predictions of what might happen in each car stop. when officers began with orders without reasons, participants predicted an escalation of over 80% of cases as opposed to only 37% when officers provided reasons without issuing orders. further, anxiety over potential
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uses of force was reported in over 80% of the stops initiated with orders for no reason, compared to less than half, 47% with staff for a reason given without orders. >> is your finding that at some point, it becomes a vicious cycle? the first command, the aggressiveness of the first command, then escalating the driver's feelings of anxiety, and they respond in a certain nervous way, because obviously, we sometimes see the certain drivers run. then it becomes this vicious cycle? >> i really have to emphasize that we control our variety of factors in our study. the democrat, fix gender, race of drivers, the officer, the neighborhood crime statistics, officers legal justification for the stop, including the driver's response to the officer. we analyze every single response by the driver to the officers first 45 words in the escalate stops. our results still hold true
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even after taking these very variables into consideration. many of these drivers are just responding to the officers questions, explaining themselves, there is not a single instance in which the driver refuses to comply to the officers order or answer the ants officers question. in other words, these factors, neighborhood crime statistics, how the driver reacts to the officer, these factors aren't what contribute to escalated outcomes as much as the officers linguistic signature. >> very helpful. professor, thank you very much for explaining all of that. it's really interesting. thank you for being here. our panel has to bite into this, we'll be back after this very short break. moderate to severe eczema
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>> all right, you just heard about that new research showing
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why the first 45 words that a police officer says during a traffic stop with a black driver can predict how that encounter will end. my panel has a lot to say about this, natasha, with you think about that there? >> i think we'll see anecdotal things for a moment. i felt a lot to watch in that video, i remember being six years old, my parents being pulled over, my father not driving but being asked for his i.d. in that aggressiveness in the china voice for the officer. i remember that it's six years old, five or six years old. years later, having that same experience as an adult. what is it about the way that police officers, no matter their color, because again, race, you can still be racist if you are a black officer when you encounter a black person that you feel this need for aggressiveness. did you feel that you do not have to talk to them the way that you might talk to somebody else.
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the driver is still with that. and so i'm glad that the study took a formal approach to it, but i think that ultimately, we're saying that human beings are human beings. you feel somebody approach you with aggression, distressed, and that can lead to fear, it can lead to anxiety, it can lead to an escalation. but to me, it confirmed what i've always known. >> yes. it was very interesting, doug, she is saying, she should've corrected me, my position there the end where she basically wanted us to know if it was the police officers escalating. the police officers are escalating it more than the drivers. >> it's just common sense. when anybody has a police officer, when you get pulled over for a traffic ticket, they're putting in a hard strategy, if you get, rattled you are not sure we are going to do. i think of it as equally bad, what happens to latinas in america. the fact that sometimes it's a language barrier, it's when it comes up and start shouting something. they don't understand and aren't following.
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i would love to see a study done on mexican americans in arizona, california, that are constantly being pulled over because of the color of their skin on the thought that they are illegals. some of them have been here for generations, americans, they are being abused >> i think what frustrated me most is the need for a study like this, you know, it is basically like here is evidence that racism exists. like you were talking about your stories and the anecdotal evidence, i have enough friends with anecdotal evidence. that means people are not listening, people do not believe it until they see it. we need numbers. i will let you know when it is racism. that is what i feel like america saying, the idea you need numbers to back something that everybody kind of knows, you know, who is experienced is kind of absurd. >> so the study actually isn't about racism, it only dealt with black drivers to begin
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with. that is actually one thing i like about the study. it is constructive, it is asking the question what two police officers do wrong, and what do they do right to escalate or de-escalate these encounters? so i think a lot more research like this is needed. now one complication of the study, they looked at what drivers said and held that constant, but they did not look at what drivers or police officers did, right? that is what i'm curious about as well, have these encounters is not what you, say it is what you do. so i want to know does it affect an encounter when a police officer has his hand on his gun to begin with. >> i would say yes. >> well look, we may all have our gun instincts, but that is the point of this research. does it affect an encounter when a driver has their hands in their pockets, or on the steering wheel. all of that stuff, knowing that kind of thing gives me power as a driver to influence and interaction, and gives the cops more information, the cops that want to do their best job or information about how to do it
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well. >> yes i think of it is a study about black drivers, that this is about race in america. i do not think we can separate those things, right, and as i said before, it does not matter the color of the police officer. if you have a perception of black bodies as being criminalized, as being more aggressive, it is a message that we constantly see throughout the media, that can inform the way you do your job in the same way that it happens in classrooms with teachers who adult fly black children, or punish them more harshly. so although this study may not have explicitly said it is about racism, i think when we do this analysis, we have to confront, that we have to unpack, that we have to talk about the different ways that manifests. black people are disproportionately profiled, and we die because of these encounters. >> and we will see if police departments will be able to use this research, if they're able to make any inroads into different ways. thank you all very much. we will be right back. even if you got ppp and it only tatakes eight minutes to qualify.
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tuning into this hour where we bring you tomorrow's news tonight. we have our great lineup of reporters here with me tonight, we have brynn, harry enten, omar jimenez, and elena train. also joining us from pittsburgh tonight, danny freeman. so the death penalty trial of the accused mass shooter in the pittsburgh synagogue massacre began today. 50 year old robert bowers is accused of killing 11 worshippers at the synagogue in october of 2018. danny freeman as the centers in pittsburgh covering this trial, brynn is following the rise in antisemitism across the country. we will get to that in a moment. danny we start with you. tell us how prosecutors laid out a case during the first day today? >> well, alison, basically prosecutors tried to establish one primary, thing not just that robert bowers was the person who fired indiscriminately into the synagogue killing 11 jewis

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