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our viewers here in the united states and around the world. audio of donald trump that undermines what he said about classified documents he kept after leaving office. we'll bring you a cnn exclusive. plus -- >> the bill is passed. >> narrowly averting a default. the house passes the plan. who was a winner in this deal? right now, we are at 95,000 people in our care. >> thousands of asylum seekers arriving in new york. but the numbers at the border are in fact down. can the biden administration take this as a win weeks after title 42 ends. so, we begin this hour with exclusive cnn reporting.
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federal prosecutors now have donald trump's own words as an important piece of evidence in a classified documents investigation. that word from multiple sources say the former president can be heard on tape acknowledging he held on to a classified pentagon document. that admission could undercut his defense amid a probe of a trump campaign spokesperson has now called meritless and shameful. we have the details from washington. >> we have exclusive reporting that federal prosecutors around donald trump, his handling of classified documents and possible obstruction of justice. they have an audio tape now of donald trump in a meeting of july 2021, where he talks about a classified proposal from the pentagon, what it would look like to bomb iran. then, he appears on this audio tape, to be waving around the sound. you hear the sound of him
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referring to a document, waving it around. now, cnn has not listened to this audio at this point. but multiple sources have described it to us and have told us that it is quite significant in this justice department investigation. we know they have the audio. they've been asking people about it. they've talked to witnesses. they brought in people for the grand jury testimony related to it. all working towards the possible case, that they haven't brought against donald trump but they could. and one of the things in the audio tape that makes it so significant. is donald trump is not only referring to a classified document he says he has in his possession, he is also making clear that he is unhappy that he can't share it more widely. he's realized that it is classified and he didn't declassify it when he was president, all of the things that would stack up in an important possible case that the justice department could be looking at bringing against the
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former president. an unprecedented situation. the reason for this meeting, the reason that donald trump is talk about this plan to bomb iran, is he was mad in july 2021, about public reporting, a story in "the new yorker" that said he had to be stopped by the pentagon and other advisers, including the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mark milley, to execute a plan to bomb iran. and trump is trying to show the people in the room that is not the case. he actually would be undermining what milley had been saying to him at the time, or what is being reported in this story, such as in "the new yorker." the people he is talking about this classified plan to, and waving a document in front of, those people are aides and, in our reporting we have learned, they are people working on a book for his former chief of staff, mark meadows. all people who would not have a security clearance to access classified documents at that
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time. taken together, a big step in the investigation. and something that the justice department will be very much looking closely at and already has in the grand jury pursuit. now, earlier, i poke with cnn contributor and former nixon counsel john dean. i asked him about the dump audio recording and what he believes the iimpact could be legally. >> this is important evidence. it shows his intent. he's aware of the fact. he cannot handle or mishandle or show classified information. that's what he is claiming he is handling. but your point on the espionage act is, it doesn't have to be classified to be a crime. if it's national security information, which he seems aware it is. and if this is as reported, iran
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war plans, there's not higher classified information. this is important evidence. and trump, through his own words, is hanging himself, so to speak. >> many people have doubted whether or not there will be an indictment in this case. given the evidence that you heard, do you think it's inevitable that a indictment has to be handed down? >> i thought when they broke the attorney/client privilege weeks ago, that was evidence they were going to indict, come what may, if they got that evidence from the attorney. this is just further. as somebody who is familiar with past investigations during watergate, the news breaks weeks or months after the events. i was surprised how late the news was when catching up in the nixon white house. here the same thing is
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happening. we're wacatching up with what ty developed and they have a powerful case. in is another bread crumb that's come out that we can see where they're going. >> how do you counter the opinion that trump's legal defense team says he was the president. he has that leeway in terms of having these documents. other presidents have had these documents in their possession. >> it's a weak defense. other high officials and men who might be president, but for the fact they had misused security information, and david pa tpe tray yas, who was a candidate for president of the united states, he was prosecuted and pleaded guilty when he mishandled a diary where he had security information, classified
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information, he had given to a biographer. this shouldn't be an exception for trump. the president doesn't get bestowed some quality that places him beyond the rule of law. to the contrary, there's nobody more important to hold the rule of law. his defense that i'm being persecuted and they're out there leaking stuff is weak. we don't know the source of the story. cnn isn't putting that out. i doubt if it's the department of justice. that would be very unlikely in modern times. postwa p postwatergate, they put down specific rules and neither the fbi nor the justice department are leakers anymore. john dean is praising the house of representatives to approve a bipartisan deal. joe biden called on the senate to pass the bill quickly when
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they get together later today. despite all of the bluster, the house vote wasn't close. 314-117. some republican hard liners vehemently opposed to the bill are threatening to oust house speaker kevin mccarthy. that didn't stop him from taking a victory lap. >> i wanted to do something no other congress has done. we would literally turn the ship. for the first time in quite some time, we would spend less than we spent the year before. tonight we all made history because this is the biggest cut and savings this congress has ever voted for. it's not that we're just voting for it, this is going to be law. >> we have a report from capitol hill on how the vote played out and what happens next.
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>> reporter: a big bipartisan victory for the president and kevin mccarthy. the house passed the bill to raise the debt ceiling and limit spending, with a number of members voting for the bill. 149 republicans and 165 democrats joined forces to get this bill over the finish line, where it now goes to the senate. but this was not an easy vote. it was not an easy road to get here. it took weeks of intense negotiations. there were a number of breakdowns in the talks along the way. and there was a last-minute revolt from some rank and file members, particularly among conservatives. republicans were not happy that the debt limit is extended for two years now. they wanted it to go further in cutting spending. democrats were worried about the new stricter food stamp requirements. in the end, leaders whipped this bill, to sell members on this deal. they are confident it will pass in the senate.
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there's a question of how quickly they can get it done. over in the senate, it takes the cooperation of every member to be able to move quickly. chuck schumer, trying to move this along. and then, him and mitch mcconnell, will work out a deal, to get amendment votes to get members onboard. the bottom line, congress is poised to avert a crisis, although barely. >> there it is. a bipartisan deal. and yet, for many, this really doesn't feel like a win. i asked cnn political analyst ron brown sstein about that earlier. >> the process this happened was excessive and disproportionate for the issues under debate. to risk global financial catastrophe for the set of policy issues they were debating here, was a wild mismatch of
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ends and means. in 2011, the two parties were debating a true grand bargain that would have everything on the table. and would have a material impact on the u.s. fiscal picture. here, the republicans ruled out the pentagon changes. and they ruled out anything to do with our large entitlement programs, the principal driver of increased spending. you're left arguing about a small slice of the budget, and normal appropriations process. and against that, you have a guillotine of an unprecedented default. everyone felt soiled at the end. >> you put that well. it does have to go through the senate. it will be fine there. if we take speaker mccarthy and president biden, political wins for both? >> yeah.
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in the sense that the alternative was catastrophic. it's not clear that we had to go through this but to show that mccarthy was standing up to biden. to risk the global economy to get two years of a spending freeze, on one-sixth of the federal budget and changes of work rules in some of the entitlement programs that would not qualify as a rounding error in the impact on the budget, plus a few other things, was just so wildly disproportionate that it really was ill logical, except on its own terms. the fight was the point of the fight. in that sense, it is a win. we are not going to tumble through the plate dallasglass w. but it is a reminder of having a debt ceiling law in place, and makes you wonder why democrats didn't try harder to extend it past 2024 or eliminate it
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altogether when they have unified control of government through 2022. >> our thanks to ron brownstein. ukraine says it destroyed all ten missiles at kyiv today. kosovo spends a day without violence. but tensions are far from over. the latest on the political upheaval there. and later, north korea is promising to try again after the latest attempt to launch a spy satellite fails. we'll have comments from the sister of kim jong-un just ahead. who'o's winning? we are, my friend. we are.
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missiles. meantime, russia is reporting new shelling across the border from ukraine. the governor there says five people were injured this morning. the dissident group freedom for russia region, meantime, claims it's ready to advance into russia soon and topple president vladimir putin. and ukraine blames russian forces for an explosion near the three sisters monument along the border of belarus. a border guard spokesperson says mr. putin's army probably fears ukraine will use the area to lunch an offensive on russian territory. we go to cnn's claire sebastian. you're following along with new developments. the conflict has taken a different character in the last few days. with ukraine and russia trading strikes. i'll start off with the fact that it wasn't a terrifying
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night in kyiv. >> a broken night in kyiv after a day of srespite. we had the air force saying they shut down ten out of ten cruise and dballistic missiles that wee part of the daytime assault on the capital on monday. even though they were able to avert getting that target, the real danger is the falling debris. you saw three deaths including a 9-year-old child. that's the impact of this aerial campaign. president zelensky will be renewing his pitch for more air defense weapons on the back of another promise of missiles from the u.s. he is now in moldova for a summit of the european political community, a newly formed grouping of e.u. and none.u.
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members. he will be developing a coalition of fighter jets, a coalition of patriots, as well. fighter jets, part of the air defense system, that ukraine has promised with training but not the nato standard jets themselves. we want to go to the strikes in russian territory. ukraine has not claimed responsibility. a new front has opened up. the reaction has been notable, not just from russia but from ukraine's allies. >> yeah. it's true, paula. it feels like the scope of this war is expanding. doing so at a remarkable pace in recent days, stepping up shelling this morning in belgrade. and reaction, the kremlin says it's alarmed, the russian ambassadors in washington going even further in a statement overnight. slamming the latest usa package showing the u.s.'s indifference of what he called the crimes of
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ukraine, referring to the drone attacks in moscow earlier this week. the statements by the white house, saying the attacks are not worth a penny. we've seen comments from the u.k., that gave the green light to cross-border attacks. ukraine has the right to project force beyond its border. that's according to the form er rhetoric that's stepped up. this sets up a big test for nato. we've seen the foreign ministers arriving for a meeting in oslo. they will face the test of how far they will go in showing solidarity in ukraine, that they are now party to a conflict, increasingly, it seems playing out on russian soil.
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>> you will stay with us as we bring you developments from oslo. for now, thank you for the update. ethic serbs rallied in kosovo on wednesday. there were no reports of major violence with nato peacekeepers deployed to town halls and other buildings. nato is sending in hundreds more troops after the situation was out of control two days earlier. protesters clashed with the peace peacekeepers, leaving dozens injured. they were furious that ethnic albanian mayors. he did not encourage the boycott, saying he did say that serbs in kosovo live under occupation. the republican field of u.s. presidential candidates is getting mighty crowd. twoming up, two more prominent names are set to join the race, as ron desantis and donald trump sharpens their attacks on one
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chris christie plans to announce his candidacy in new hampshire. ron desantis has been stumping across iowa, trying to convince voters he can get elected while donald trump cannot. jeff zeleny is traveling with desantis. >>excuses. we have to get the job done. >> reporter: ron desantis is trying to seize the reins of the republican party from donald trump, pitching himself as a fighter who can win. >> this democracy has imposing its will on us for a long time. >> reporter: declaring across iowa, he made clear he would draw distinctions with the former president on his terms. >> i'm going to counterpunch. i'm going to fight back on it. i'm going to put my fire on biden. i'm focusing on biden. >> reporter: long before
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desantis can confront president biden, he must get through a primary, with many challengers, including former vice president mike pence and chris christie. but trump looms largest over the race. he arrives here to give a rebuttal to desantis, the latest sign the race is intensifying, with iowa kcaucuses early next year. simone is among the republicans weighing her options. >> i have a respect for many things that president trump did in office. i have to keep that in mind. i have a tremendous amount of respect for what governor desantis has done in florida. >> reporter: desantis hazarded the republicans directly, saying trump can't win a general election. >> i think our voters are looking at this and say, you know, yeah, we appreciate what he did. but we also recognize there's a lot of voters that aren't ever going to vote for him.
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we have to accept that. >> reporter: even as questions about his own electability remain unanswered, desantis touts his deeply conservative florida record. he stepped up his subtle contrast with trump. >> at the end of the day, leadership is not about entertainment. it's not about building a brand. it's about results. >> reporter: at his size, one of his closest political advisers, his wife, casey, who picked up where he left off. >> it matters in the moment. you see how a leader conducts himself when the lights are on. >> reporter: as the florida governor heads to new hampshire and south carolina to campaign this week, former president donald trump, arrives in iowa and will be campaigning on thursday. no big rallies this time. instead, he will meet with small groups of conservative
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supporters, heevangelical supporters. this could still be advantage trump. that never-trump lane is fractured and divided by so many candidates. jeff zeleny, cnn, pella, iowa. 40,000 asylum seekers are in new york city's care. more than 2,000 arrived last week. they say more than 72,000 have come through the city's intake center since last spring. it's been clearly three weeks since the u.s. ended the so-called title 42, which allowed authorities to swiftly turn away migrants at the border during the covid emergency. that means an older policy is back and forth. it's known as title eight. it allowss migrants to seek as asylum. they represent the largest group of immigrants living in the united states. the total number of mexican
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immigrants living in the united states has been on the klein more than a decade. 10.7 million mexican immigrants lived in the united states in 2021, 1 million fewer than a decade ago. joining me now, jessica riley, a staff attorney for lawyers good government, to defend migrants in the face of inhumane policies. i want to take the temperature of right now. this is weeks after title 42 ended. what effect are you seeing on migrants and those seeking asylum in the united states? >> sure. as you stated, title 42 ended about three weeks ago and the government implemented a new rule, that makes asylum seekers who arrive at the border ineligible for asylum.
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in the u.s., they are ineligible for asylum, whether they passed through. there are, of course, limited exceptions and ways to overcome this rule. however, there's a lot of confusion on the ground, with the asylum seekers. the rule is not very clear. and each exception, you know, will be adjudicated on a case-by-case basis, while the asylum seeker is detained with no access to legal counsel. what we're seeing is that even the most vulnerable asylum seekers who really can't afford to wait for an appointment, are being forced to make an impossible decision. they will suffer the health or safety con consequence in lex coe or accept a port of entry and ask the u.s. government for help. this means they will be presumed for asylum in the u.s. and if they cannot rebut the presumption, they're going to be
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deported, probably within weeks or even days. and this has permanent, devastating immigration consequences. i'm seeing people are confused. they are desperate. they are living in the worst situation or the worst conditions i have ever seen in all my years down here. >> can you elaborate on that? that's certainly saying something in terms of you saying you have never seen it this bad. >> yes. this is the worst i've ever seen. it's worse now than it was under the trump administration. there's numerous encampments across the rio grande, where people are living in abysmal conditions. children and families are sleeping under tarps, crash bags, sheets of plastic, pieces of cardboard. there's not enough water or food. we've seen children who have
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lost one-third of their body weight starving. there's limited sanitation infrastructure in place. for example, in one of the larger camps across the river, there's over 1,000 people living there. and there's so few facilities they have essentially been forced to use the land next to where they sleep as an open defecation site. there's runoff from this land into the river. and the people are bathing in this river. they're washing their kids, their clothes in this river. this is truly a humanitarian emergency and this could quickly become a health crisis without more resources and intervention. >> they're alarming conditions you describe there. i have to ask you, though, you had extensive experience in new york, the city, the state, right now buckling. they've been very blunt that financially and resource-wise,
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in terms of them to provide all they need to for migrants, there's no easy answer. what would you say to that? >> we have a responsibility to process people who are seeking asylum at our ports of entry. we have seen other countries around the world offering more asylum seekers thatten we are right now. we're seeing it do it with dignity and success mri. living in a border city, i've seen my community welcome thousands and thousands of people. we can do this together. we can be a place that welcomes immigrants and provide them with some justice.
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>> the biden administration numbers are down for now. and the biden administration is getting credit for that. thank you for points out what conditions are like at this hour. jessica, we have to leave it there. thank you. up next for us, north korea is defending its failed attempt to launch a spy satellite. what might be behind their push, just ahead.
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released these images of wednesday's failed satellite launch, as the country is making clear it remains determined to try again. the sister of north korean leader kim jong-un says the country will put a military spy satellite into orbit season and defended its right to self-defense. will ripley has those details. >> reporter: for the first time in seven years, north korea is trying to put a satellite into orbit. and this time, its military purpose is no secret. unlike these launches in 2012 and 2016, pyongyang no longer promises peaceful civilian research. north korea wants to deploy a spy satellite. it could improve the accuracy of nuclear weapons. raising the stakes in an escalating standoff with the u.s. and its allies. north korea undeterred by a failed first launch on
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wednesday. a new rocket crashed into the yellow sea. the nation's space agency blames a new engine system, with unstable fuel. the agency investigating serious flaws, vowing to carry out a second launch as soon as possible. in south korea and japan, air raid sirens sounded in minutes of the launch. >> it was framed at a wartime alert. million woke up to evacuation warnings. missile and satellite tests have become part of our daily lives. if north korea attacks with missiles, that is the end of them. this may be just the beginning, analysts say. more missile and satellite launches all-put sernl. >> it causes concern in japan because you don't know what the north koreans are planning on
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doing. it could be a ballistic missile test. >> the u.n. secretary-general condemns the launch. the latest resolutions by kim jong-un, flaunting his growing car arsenal alongside his young daughter. china and russia blocking attempts at the u.n. to binge the missile-testing binge with tougher sanctions. north korea's actions disrupt the safety of our country, the region and raising debris from the failed launch. we're at north korea's new satellite control center. >> reporter: in 2019, i met with the director of the north korea satellite program. he told me his team of 300 scientists was working nonstop to make north korea a space superpower. what can you say to the world to
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prove this is not a ballistic missile program in disguise? >> why would we have intentions to drop nuclear bombs on the world, including the united states? the researcher said at the time, eight years and a barrage of missile tests later, north korean scientists learn more from every launch. failure brings kim closer to success. perhaps a sign of how confident kim jong-un is, north korea releasing images of a launch. he is confident he will have a satellite orbiting the earth. he wants to develop a hypersonic missile and submarine, icbms that can be launched without warning and nuclear-capable missiles with multiple warheads. will ripley, cnn, taipei. sudan's armed forces have
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suspended participation in the talks in jeddah. they are accusing military forces of violating the latest truce, that was extended on monday. in the month and a half since the civil war broke out, seize f cease-fires have been violated on both sides. on wednesday, 17 people were killed and 100 wounded in a market in khartoum that was hit by shelling. hit and psend sudanese doctors more are going to die from the attack. coming up for us here on cnn newsroom, nasa scientists are working to solve one of the sky's greatest mysteries, by making it possible to get concrete answers about so-called ufos. we'll learn how straight ahead. ? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neneuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicatorss of brain health.
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a nasa task force plans to publish its first report this summer on unidentified phenomenon or what you and i call ufos. a team of independent scientists are creating guidelines to turn creepy stories and grainy footage into hard science. hopefully we get the answers. cnn's tom foreman explains. >> reporter: for many years the u.s. government denied all of the reports of people seeing things in the sky. the idea there were unidentified objects up there. now, government agencies in the past few years say there's clear hi something there because we
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have video of it and too many reports of it but what is it? this is nasa's time to come onboard with a committee having a report saying here's what we think is going on up there. they say some things can be explained as balloons or flights of birds or aircraft. some of it they can't explain. more importantly, they're saying they are trying to put together a road map going forward. a way to combine actual scientific observation of these things, with the anecdotal observation you have. too much of that. too many people with iphones and saying i saw something. maybe it looked like this. did they come up with a general idea of what these things looked like, based upon what they have heard? yeah. they said generally the characteristics of unidentified phenomenon as they call them,
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are they're round and small, white, silver or translucent, around 10,000 to 30,000 feet, stationary to mach 2, twice the speed of sound and no thermal exhaust of but that's average of a lot of people saying i think i saw this. and nasa is saying it's easy to say what you think you saw. if we want to get to the bottom of whoat's going on here, we ned to quantify this. we need to say what was happening, where was it? how fast was it happening? by doing that, they will get down to what they don't know? advanced weapons systems or surveillance systems or are they from somewhere else? some other place out in the galaxy? they don't think it's that. if they knew, they would tell us. and nasa said, many of us spend
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our lives wondering if we can find life out there. if we can find it, we would like to. we'll see what the report says later this summer. >> thanks to tom foreman there. before we go, a long last cast member of "sex and the city" is returning to the show, "and just like that." >> no matter what life hands you, you can count on your closest friends to be there. >> one of the closest friends. kim cattrall, who played fan favorite, samantha jones, was not there for the first season of the reboot, amid reports of bad blood. cattrall is bringing samantha back for one scene in season two. all very hush, hush. like cnn, hbo is owned by parent company warner brothers discovery. samantha is back and the crowd goes wild. many people waiting for that comeback. i'm paula newton.
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