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a new cnn exclusive. former at the present time donald trump subpoenaed for records after he was caught on tape, discussing how he held on to a classified document. cnn has learned his attorneys haven't been able to find that key document. critical details in a case that prosecutors could be building against the republican front-runner. mike pence cleared. he will not face charge in his classified documents investigation. we have these stories and more, ahead on "cnn news central." we have exclusive new cnn reporting about the special counsel, and that audio reporting of former at the present time donald trump. sources tell cnn that they turned over documents can bed to a classified military documents,
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one that prosecutors hear mr. trump describing. sources also tell cnn there is a giant unknown. whether the document in question, an iran attack plan, was ever actually returned to the government. paula, lay out the question of what happened here. >> so, let's go back a few months ago. march 2023, one of the trump's longtime aide goes before the grand jury, and they play this audio that we reported on. they play it for her, because she was one of the people in the room during that meeting back in july of 2021. trump's attorneys receive a subpoena, asking for all documents and material related to iran and general milley. we learned initially there was some confusion, but shortly thereafter they put it together.
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they have asked margot about this. so we're told they went, spoke to other aides, they got transcripts, other materials, returned those to the government, sent those back, but they were not able to find this document that trump claims to have on the tape. paula, do we know where the document might be? >> it's unclear. we know on the tape, right, trump claims to have this document. he's describing it. we learned in our reporting that this was not authored by general milley. in fact, it predates his time as chairman of the joint chiefs, but it doesn't appear if it exists, but at this point it's not clear if it's in the possession of the government. >> so katelyn, we have learned about concerned than sure that everything he had in his possession was turned over,
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right? >> right, boris, there's a history of mistrust here, an entire year or more, where the justice department and the national archives were always trying to get back the federal records in donald trump's possession. in may of 2022 is when donald trump's team gets the subpoena and says all documents need to go back to the federal government. then there essentially is months and months, including the moment in august where the fbi searches mar-a-lago, finds hundreds of document, but after that there's more mistrust built into this relationship, and really breaks down the trust and communication between the trump lawyers and the justice department, where the justice department has to go to a federal judge saying we are not sure that donald trump's team has done a thorough search.
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ultimately donald trump is not held in contempt of court at that time, though the justice department tries to make that happen. instead they hire some people to do some searching. they search bed minister, they don't find any other classified documents, but find some in a storage facility in florida. that is all leading up in the months before. ultimately this reveal to margot martin, related to iran and general milley. >> so, paula, we should point out that all of this is happening on the backdrop of a 2024 campaign. donald trump has been on the campaign trail. he was asked specifically about the original recording. what was the response? >> exactly. a short time ago we got a response from his spokesman, arguing that the whole
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investigation is politically motivated. they want we're following leaks, bus kaitlan collins knows -- this is the first time the former president has responded to our exclusive about the audio recording, the original one. let's take a listen to what he said. >> i don't think think about it. all i know is this -- everything i did was right. we had the presidential records act that i abided by 100%. it's a continuation of the greatest witchhunt. it's a hoax. it has to do with trying to interfere with the election. this is how they've been trying to attack the investigation itself. they even demanded a meeting with the attorney to express their concerns the what is so significant is that it shows the kind of elf that the special
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counsel investigators are evaluating that strongly suggests this is not motivated by a political bias. >> the scope is notable. this was obtained because they were biographers writing about mark meadows. >> a great point. based on our reporting, he knee he was -- and -- paula and ind katelyn, please stand by. evan, first help me understand here. he referred to a classified document on an audio recording. they looked for that document. they have not proud that document. do we know, or is there any
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understanding of whether that means he doesn't have it, doesn't know if he still has it, is refusing to give it, or never had it. >> all of the above could be the answer. it's quite possible the justice department, the pentagon may have its document in its possession, but part of the job here for these investigators is to make sure everything that is in the possession of the former president, who does not have a right to have these government records anymore, that all of that is returned into the possession of the government. that includes, for instance, any notes that any of his aides may have taken during one of these meetings. for instance, if he was discussing some of this classified information in one of these settings at bed minister, for instance, and any notes were taken, the judd department, the fbi wants possession of those, because those are new records that contain classified information. all of that is important for them to return. >> okay.
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in terms of trump's potential legal exposure here, does it -- he already had had them, then gave some back, gave a few more back, a little slow in doing it. if he still had them today, does that greatly increase his legal liability. >> i think what it makes clear is he knowingly violated the law. beyond that, the espionage act says if you have national defense information, and you're told you have it and you're asked to give it back, and you don't, then you violate the espionage act. this demonstrates knowledge and potentially intent. >> and possibly multiple times where you were told to give it back. to date, a federal judge has denied the doj's request for holding trump or his team in
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contempt. >> if in fact they demonstrates he has this document, had been asked for it, didn't give it back. it's hard to combat that claim. we don't know if he flushed it down the toilet or -- >> there was evidence he did that, photographs in fact that he did that. >> the justice department is in a bit of a bind here. they believe he still has they documents. when they first did the search back in mar-a-lago, they could have said we want to search, but they chose to do just one search. that's partly why they're trying to retrieve these documents. >> meanwhile, it's sensitive territory, because you're searching the many properties of a former president. i know they see things are not necessarily connected, but can
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we draw any can be between the former if you want getting cleared -- which, by the way in volume, and he answers they questions night and day, but they cleared that, you've cleared the department of justice for a long time. could that indicate they're moving forward? >> i think they're unconnected, partly baas we're talking about a volume -- just a very different volume, right? we're talking about a dozen documents in the pence case. they were discovered in january. this was still being handled by the justice department, not a special counsel, and they were looking at the calendar. a lot of times the justice department gets criticized for how long these things take. in this case they knew pence might be announcing for president this week, and they needed to get out of the wait of that. the standard had been set by merrick garland. if he declares, suddenly they may have to appoint a special
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counsel. i think everybody in the justice department was aware of that date certain. stand by. we have new information regarding the former vice president. what do we know, boris? >> a major development in the other high-profile probe. the justice department closing the investigation into former vice president mike pence, deciding not to brings charge after classified records were -- and as evan pointed out, it comes as mike pence is expected to announce next week. katelyn helped to break this story. walk us through the details of this decision by the doj? >> boris, we were able to obtain a letter that the justice department sent to mike pence's lawyers yesterday. it's quite a bit of finality, it's clear that the justice department did conduct an investigation into the potential mishandling of classified information that was found just
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a few months ago. based on the results of that investigation, there were be no criminal charges. no one else will be charged with a crime. this was an investigation that started in january, because at that time mike pence, one of his lawyers went to his home in indiana to make sure whether he had any federal records in his possession. at that time, they found about a dozen records that had classified markings on them. then they gave them back to the federal government. that is a crucial piece of this that makes it much different than the situation that played out with donald trump that we've been talking about for many of these months. they give them back to the fbi, the national archives. then in february, that is when the fbi makes sure that there are no other documents in mike pence's possession. there's a search of his indiana home, of his office in washington, d.c. there's one more document recovered. then things go silent until june
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1st, when pence's attorneys get the letter say this was over. mike pence and his advisers says they're pleased, but not surprised. they told us that, and there's been a discovery of classified information, but they believed he handled it much different live. to highlight that, this is what pence said in january after this news broke that were found. >> while i was not aware those classified documents with in our personal residence, let me be clear, those classified documents should not have been in my personal residence. mistakes were made. i take full responsibility. >> of course, this is a very separate investigation done by an entirely separate section of the justice department. then the special investigation that jack smith is doing into
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donald trump, and the investigation around documents found in president joe biden's possession from his previous terms in office, but ultimately, this comes at quite a crucial moment. it is days away from mike pence announcing that he's running for the presidency, will be challenging donald trump for that nomination of the republican party. they're getting this letter, and it's also a crucial time in the trump investigation as well. certainly. katelyn, thank for you breaking that down. >> as katelyn noted, trump's allies may want to conflate these indications, there are a significant differences. >> trump has never said they shouldn't have been in my private residence, and two, i take full responsibility, but given the differences, are you surprised the case is closed and there were no charges? >> not at all. i think this was the outcome.
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people make mistakes like this all the time. it's qualitatively different when you decide, i'm going to remove documents i know are classified, you don't go through the process of declassifying them if you have the authority to do that. the president said that repeatedly, but that is false. it's the right thing for the justice department to do. donald trump knowingly had the document, and then failed to give them back. that's the fundamental problem here. >> when you compare the pence handling with the biden handling -- and similar numbers there, a dozen versus several hundred that trump kept, what do we know about the status? >> we know there's one witness has already been talked to by rob herr, who is doing the biden investigation. we haven't heard much more.
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as jamil points out, these things are not uncommon. to find documents, return them to the government, say, take a look at it and see whether, again, there was no damage down from the way these documents were stored, and then the justice department, you know, completes the investigation and brings no charges. we don't have any reason to believe there's anything like that coming, obviously in the biden case. the trump case is just on a different planet, right? the former president is thumbing his nose all throughout, claiming all kinds of excuses why the documents ended up there, and that's partly why we are where we are, and why the justice department is still doing this investigation. >> there was a time that you would heard legal experts like yourself say classified documents, that's the most likely to face it, because it's a hard thing, had the documents, shouldn't have had them s pence and the biden revelations
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changed the thinking somewhat, though they are different cases. as you look at the evidence that you know at this point, what is the chance of a possible indictment? >> i think it's hard for the justice department not to indict the president at this point. the problem is you have him running for office, against a president who is in office, also running against him, i mean, this is politically extremely fraught. i would not want to be in the position of the justice department or the special prosecutor or the president. >> the obstruction is what makes it more complicated. >> a lot of layers to that legal onion. thank you both so much. boris? happening now, markets looking up after the may jobs report blew expectations out of the water and ahead of president biden's signing the debt deal into law. we have more on the broader glick. also ahead, the u.s. trying
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right now, u.s. markets are reacting strongly. the dow up 675-ish points on the back of a red-hot jobs report, the u.s. economy adding 339,000 jobs last month. that crushed expectations. tonight, president biden is expected to tout these new numbers and sign the bipartisan debt ceiling bill passed by the senate late last night. joining us is dan primak, from
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axios. this is one of a string of jobs reports that have exceeded expectations. why does this keep happening? the economy continues to grow. it's not growing nearly at the rate it was a year or two ago, but it continues to grow. we had a huge disconnect in terms of jobs available and people to fill them. how do you expect this new jobs report to affect the fed's take? >> thus, you know, it's this weird dicot mick.
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today, as you noted earlier, the market is reacting well, because they're looking at this number, saying this is a good number, obviously better than expected, but it's not so good. there's a bit of underlying weakness, some softening, kind of like goldilocks for the market. they think it's a strong number, but not so strong that the fed will increase the rates again. >> dan, we just learned that fitz rating is keeping the u.s. on watch, even after the congress passed last night's debt ceiling deal, saying it's ultimately the bringsmanship and partisanship that is keep it a bit skeptical. what do you make of that?
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>> i don't make a huge amount of it. honestly i would be more concerned if it was s&p or moody's. fitch isn't wrong. we obviously have some major dysfunction in washington that we over and over again get to this debt ceiling catastrophe almost step off the cliff. the other thing worth noting, when you look at the market reaction to the jobs part, it's hard to parse from the jobs part versus the debt ceiling. it's a one of one, a bit of the others. dan, thanks for the perspective and spending time with us. >> thank you. of course. jim? how do you reduce the risk of nuclear war when a country with the most nuclear weapons pulled out a key treaty. russia's vladimir putin has control of the largest nuclear arsenals on the planet. he plans to add to that
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stockpile after pulling out a treaty. the u.s. is launches a new ever to bring russia back to the table. kylie, this has been a subject of concern for some time, particularly as one treaty after another falls by the wayside. why the urgency now from the administration? are they approaches this with both carrots and sticks? >> there are both carrots and sticks applied to this strategy. it's a multipronged strategy with jake sylvan, very clearly saying today that the united states wants to engage both russia and china on nuclear arms talks without preconditions. the united states just wants to sit down and talk about this. this is clearly a challenge for the u.s. right now. you look at russia, they have
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recently gotten out of the sing the lasting arms control agreement between the u.s. and russia just earlier this year. then you look at china. they are building up their nuclear program. what the biden administration is saying now, they want to talk to both countries. they also want to talk to all of the key five countries, all five nuclear states -- uk, france, u.s., china and russia of course included, because they believe the agreement in place are limited. the biden administration is also working to modernize their own nuclear force. the national security adviser says they aren't looking right now to increase the size, but the size is a key question. the reason for that is because currently the u.s. and russia has said they're going to abide by an agreement that would have put limits on the deployed nuclear warheads at 1550 in
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total, but then you have china developing their nuclear program rapidly. they're at about 400 nuclear warheads stockpiled. that could grow, according to the u.s. assessment to 1500 by 2035. so they're saying the future of any arms agreement is going to be hinged on what china is doing with their nuclear program. that's a key question here. you also have the administration really keenly looking at the fact they now need to deal with both these countries that don't want to come to the table, and they're trying to tell them it's to their best benefit, best advantage to have these conversations about nuclear weapons. jim? >> so, the question is, is the intention here from the biden administration to make this a three-way negotiation in effect?
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as you note, and we can put the numbers up about, yes, china has a fraction of the number, but that's not expected as to last. many will say any arms control treaty you make, if it doesn't include china, doesn't address the problem. is the idea for all three to sit down at the table? or the u.s. one on one i got right now they're not saying. they're not saying it's out of the cards. they are acknowledging that they want to talk to both countries. they're also saying they think that multilateral engagement could be productive. jim, you'll recall the trump administration did try to get china to the table when they were having arms talks with russia. it may be the future of where this has to do.
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three people are still missing in iowa, after an apartment building collapsed earlier this week. today, iowa urban search and rescue says they searched possibly positive area, and now they're going to attempt to shore up other parts of the building to search further. it's a delicate and time-consuming process. >> we do what the building tells us. this building is very dynamic. as the temperature rises up and down, this building is expanding and contracting. it's talking to us, telling us what it wants to do. >> we're also learning, cord to the mayor, repair work had begun just days before it partly came
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down. also they photos that appear to be a void forming between the facade and the interior. you can see crumble bricks in that space. officials have not yet updated when they plan to demolish the building. jim? >> the high cost of medicine is taking a toll how often americans are taking their prescription drugs. million of adults are either skipping or rationing out their surprised meds, because they cost too much or they're trying to save money this is a problem. what do these latest numbers show? >> jim, more than 9 million americans rationed their prescription drugs over the past year. just as you said, it's because they didn't have enough money. obviously if you don't take all the medicine, you can become
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sicker. it really affects all of us, because it affects medical costs. the difficulties are mostly felt by the uninsured. if you look at people who don't have insurance, 23% say they have rationed their prescription medicines over the previous year. again, hurts them, hurts all of us. jim? >> in addition to the uninsured, are there others who are more likely to ration their medications? >> yeah. so the cdc data brought out demographics. they found black people were more likely to ration. women more likely than men to have to ration their medication. also people with disabilities. >> well, it's an important study. elizabeth cohen, thank you so much for bringing it to us. boris? a texas cheerleader is speaking out for the first time after she and a friend were shot in a store parking lot after a
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fred opened the wrong door of a car. she reveals they are spleen was ruptured and her stomach had two holes in it. >> my diaphragm his two holes. it was hard. like hurting to walk or stand is really weird when a week before you were doing a bunch of flips, running the track and all this stuff. you can't get out of bed by yourself, can't roll off the couch. going up the stairs, i would get winded. >> the suspect in the shooting, this man over here, was arrested, and charged with deadly conduct with a firearm. washington said despite being wounded and scared, she focused on trying to breathe and keep
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>> all right, so paying convenience potentially a risk. that advice, do not store money in the apps, because that money is not insured by the government, like it would be in a bank. that means your money could be lost if those companies go belly up. the consumer protection bureau also says these companies face less oversight for a who is host of things. brian fung joins us now. >> that's right. what the u.s. government is staying, tome -- that these service are so easy to use, it's often ease to.
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the nba finals. patrick snell joins us live. adam silver say they found things in the investigation. do we know how soon a suspension could be handed down? >> reporter: that's the key question now, boris. we're hoping to learn more in the coming hours, if not the coming days. here is what's highly significant. the nba commissioner speak with the media before game one, and this actually was, when you reflect upon it all, a significant update. the potential discipline the league already handling down to the grizzlies staff. he flashed a gun apparently on social media for a second time. >> we've uncovered a fair amount of additional information, i think since i was still asked about the situation, i would say we probably could have brought it to a head now, but we made
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the decision, and i believe the players association agrees with us, it would be unfair to these players and these teams in the middle of the series to announce the results of that investigation. >> reporter: all right, just a reminder, they suspended him for eight games earlier this year back in march, the nuggets and fans have been waiti ing years play in those finals game. he gave the team a pop quiz about a pop quiz. the nuggets showing no rust from nine days off. nicolai had 27 points, 14 assists, ten rebounds. that means a triple double for him. jamal murray also had 26 points
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as they had a 21-point lead. the heat is trying their best to get back into it, but nothing doing. it wasn't happening for them. uss as the master class they served up. jimmy butler had a low score. >> right now the most important thing is tony a game. i don't need to shoot or score to affect the game. i think i did a good job today. everybody contributed. everybody who played contributed, and it's a great win for us. >> we missed a lot tonight. we'll be better at game two. we'll take this and learn from it. we'll be back in two days. >> game 2 of the finals leadership sunday night at 8:00
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eastern. boris, your team miami has some work to do, would you agree? >> i thought they were going to take it in three. i figured denver would forfeit the fourth game. now i say heat in five. thank you, patrick. >> i had no idea that boris was a heat stfan. trump attorneys have not yet found the classified document that the former president was speaking about in the recording. wee have details, just ahead
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