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a new cnn exclusive, former at the present time trump subpoenaed for reports after he cause caught on tape after he was discussion holding on to a classified document, but cnn has learned his attorneys have not been able to find that document. plus, a surge that so far hasn't happened. a very different story at the border than just weeks ago before title 42 lifted. a number of migrant crossings is plummeting. we're following these stories and many more coming into "cnn news central." ♪ we are learning more about more documents former president trump's lawyers handed over.
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the justice department send a fresh subpoena to trump in march. it was tied to a recording of him in 2021, in which he's heard discussing a classified document on iran attack plans. feds wanted that specific document, but did not get it. trump's attorneys turned over documents related to it, but sources say they could not find of paper in question. indicatelyn, late out what we know and don't know here. >> right. well, jim, the big point is we've seen a lot of investigatition activity, and it was not emphasis that investigators tried to take. this is how this played out, how the trump team got a new subpoena, seeking this particular document.
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donald trump is captured on audiotape, referring to waving around and lamenting he can't make it more widely available to the public, because he believes it helps him in some way politically, but what happened in mid march, one of his communication aides that was in that meeting in july of 2021, she goes into the grand jury, does her testimony, and at that time, it is revealed to her the justice department has a copy of this audiotape. shortly after she leaves the grand jury, that's when the trump team becomes aware that the justice department has the audiotape and they get hit with a subpoena, asking for any and all documents related to general mark milley. that's the subject of trump's ire when he was waving the document around. they're also asking for anything related to iran, any maps, invasion plans, anything that could be part of that collection
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of classified information that trump was talking about there. he was talking about what he believed were the pentagon plans to invade or have a military strike on iran. the trump team goes and looks for the material that they have. they respond, they give some things back over to the justice department, but, jim, they do not find the document itself to turn back over at that time. they do not produce that back to the justice department. >> is it possible that the doj already has that document? or we just don't know? >> it's entirely possible. we know in the course of this investigation, the justice department has taken great pains to try to make sure that donald trump and his team no longer have any classified documents in his possession. his own lawyers and staff, trump himself, do not know and have said this -- they do not know what they sent back to the archives that may have sent back
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in january of 2022, and they certainly don't know what the 100 or more classified documents were that the fbi recovered in the search of mar-a-lago in august of last year. we don't know if this is a subpoena covering the justice department's bases, making sure there's no pieces of that classified material, no copies, anything like that, but we do know the justice department is demanding, turn it over if i have it. katelyn, stand by. thank you. we want to get some -- andrew mccabe is here with us, and also host of a weekly podcast called jack. they say they couldn't find this potential document. >> really interesting
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development, boris. it answers a number of questions for us. when we were listening to cnn's breaking reporting a few days ago about the audiotape, that's what we're all wondering, what is he allegedly holding. what is the document being ruffled around on the tape. i think we know now that the government does not believe they have it. they asked for it with a subpoena. his attorneys did not produce it under the request of that subpoena. whether it's, you know, stuck somewhere in the boxes that the government isn't aware of, i think that's highly unlikely, but that thing could really be anywhere at this point. >> you would have to question why doj would put out a subpoena for something if they should go through the record that were given back. >> of course. they were very concerned about not having recovered all of these highly sensitive classified national defense information documents. they have issued now several subpoenas. they have gone in front of the
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court and asked the court to hold trump and his legal team in contempt. that hasn't quite happened yet. they went to great lengths to interview the private security folks that conducted the search on the part of the trump team. so they're trying to drill down to find out where this stuff is. >> given the scope of the information, it should be under renewed scrutiny, no? this apparently was at bed minister, not mar-a-lago. >> great question. this development definitely broadens the scope of concerns about where the documents could be. my personal opinion is that, if doj thought they had probable cause to believe there were nor documents in bedminister, they might have sought a search warrant.
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>> so if there is a dispute and the document isn't located, what would prosecutors need in terms of evidence to prove that at some point trump did have this beyond the audio recording? >> a few things there. the audio is still highly significant. the audio gets admitted as any trial. it can easily be authenticated. that comes in and causes all kinds of problem for mr. trump. if they can't find this document, it may limb how they can charge him for this document and what's done, what's said on the video. however, it really puts trump in a very tough position. if he doesn't -- if they don't have the document, they can still have witnesses in that meeting come in and testify, yes, as he said that, he was waving a document, and i believe by the way he was brandishing it, that's the document he was talking about. that might force him to take the
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stand to address that question. if he does, he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. if he set yes, sir, that's a problem. if he says no, he's admitting that he made it up, and that's never something want to admit to at jury. >> if he admits agrandizing, it could be a problem. >> it's a bad look for a defendant to stand in front of a jif and relate a story that says, yeah, i said these things, but they weren't true. >> an dry mccabe, appreciate it, as always. the pence probe, however has now wrapped up. the justice department has closed its investigation into the former vice president's handling of classified materials, and will not file charges. that investigation launched after roughly a dozen classified
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records were recovered from pence's home, this in january. this comes days before pence is expected to announce his 2024 presidential run. kat katelyn is back, a busy day for her. tell us how the justice department came to this decision. >> this is a separate investigation, around classified materials found in the home of former vice president mike pence in indiana, just in january. a much shorter investigation, and the finality that happened in this investigation came yesterday. the just department wrote a len that -- saying they conducted an investigation into the mishandling of classified information, and no criminal charges last quarter sought. so mike pence will not be charged with a crime.
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neither will anyone else who may have handled those documents. now, the shape of this investigation has looked very different. it started after january, which is the time when mike pence sent someone to his home in indiana, a lawyer, to look and see if there were any government documents there that needed to be returned, all in the shadow of this trump investigation, and also joe biden's own discovery that he had classified documents in his possession that resulted in another investigation. but then they did find about at dozen. they turned them over quickly to the justice department, fbi, mike pence said it was a mistake, mistakes were made, he took respond for it. the fbi came in and did subsequent searching of the home against, to make sure there are no other records. this goes silent as of february, and now we have the finality here.
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no criminal charges will be sought. >> the big difference was the cooperation. as you noted, pence said mistakes were made, he took responsibility directly himself. >> they are in -- another thing we're waiting on, mike pence is planning to announce formally his run for president next week, challenging donald trump for that nomination and any others that get into the race. the pence team has spoken -- at least an adviser spoke to cnn earlier, saying they were pleased, but not surprised by the justice department decision here. they did highlight this is something that was in stark contrast and particularly how mike pence responded to these
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decisions. >> indeed, katelyn, great reporting twice today. thank you so much. markets are way up, jobs numbers are stellar. president biden is hours away from signing a debt deal. why are some warnings that america's credit could still get downgraded. plus, 13 republican governors sending troops to the border, even though crossings have declined since title 42 was levelled. what is going on at the southern border? the u.s. is trying to get russia to come to the table to discussion nuclear weapons. why are officials so keen to have a conversation with moscow right now? "cnn news central" returns in just moments. it's started. it's... the side hug. tween milestones like this may start at age 9.
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the past two years, youtube has scrubbed such unfounded claims. sa sarah, i've been reading the new policy. as often, the policy is long, somewhat contradictory at times. they say they -- also said that other misinformation policies remain in place. explain what has actually changed here? >> yeah, it's a great question, jim. what has changed is in the past, the content was uploaded to youtube that specifically denied the valid ilof the 2020 election, youtube would say it's violative of its content. what's changed, it's not forced to come down. the reason they say that, they are looking at a 2024 election and see that a lot of 9
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candidates have election denialism as part of their platform. they worry if they continue to have this policy, the majority of what they'll try to upload and discuss will not be eligible to continue to remain on youtube. thus, they say, they have come up against this weird problem, do you want to essentially keep most of that off the platform, even though these are running for official positions, or if you take it down, do you cause real hard. youtube says it won't le -- as in the wake of the 2020 election. whether or not people agree with that, that's up to them. i tried to press youtube to give me examples, but they would that provide that. >> the question comes up, was this a business decision?
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if they're saying so many candidates purl election denialism, they eliminate some, is business a factor here? >> it's hard to say. if you're youtube, a majority of the revenue is from big-time advertisers. they don't want to be around misinformation. in i had a guess, i think they want to ensure the platform can remain as open as possible. that is the business model here. any policies they create that will get a lot of pushback or quite frankly huge swaths of the country that great with them for potential censors, i think that's a bigger concern. it's almost like user engagement is the concern here, but whether or not they think adding this content will help them get more revenue directly, i don't know that that's the case. >> well, something to follow, certainly impact as we get closer.
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sarah fisher, thanks so much. too long president biden will address the nation from the oval office. his first time speak to the country it also come as the dow is surging more than 730 points on track for its best day since november, this on the heels of today's red-hot jobs report. thes economy adding 339,000 jobs last month. that number crushing expectations. we saw the most jobs added in professional and business services followed by government and healthcare jobs. these are great numb ers. what does that tell you? >> 13 out of past 14 months, the
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numbers have competed expectations. it's very unusual for them to be consistently wrong in the same direction i think it's a bit of a puzzle particularly given the fact that we have had -- there was frankly good reason to believe he would have seen more of a slowdown in the job market by now. it's just contrary to historically what we might have expe expected early on in the pandemic it was difficult to come here, work here legally. for that mardy, borders were closed, people were losing their work documents essentially
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because of so much government dysfunction. today a lot of that is the basically back to normal. also, we see a record high number of working-age women employed. that she-session, if you may recall, would lead to permanent economic scarring for american women does not seem to have happened. far from it. of course, it leads to questions about what we might see in terms of a potential recession. how do you fit this positive jobs news in the context of where the overall economy might go? these are great numbers, for the most part.
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all of that pessimism may not have been wrong, it may have early. at some point the economy will turn, because it always does. again, great that we haven't. at some poin. there are signs, again, of some stresses in financial markets, for example, credit card delinquencies, they've been going up quite a bit. it's not all hungie d ie hunky but today we look like we're okay. >> a puzzle in large heart, because it's an unprecedented picture. catherine rampell, thank you for your expertise. >> thank you. a job that pays double minimum wage that americans just
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>> they performed the initial rescues, getting accountability. we want to keep everyone out of this area. that building is still in a dangerous state for us to do the investigations. those persons that were trapped had to be lifted out by the rescue company and the truck companies and engine companies
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because of the level they fell from and through. one of the problems you have with wet concrete is doing the searches before it hardens. we communicated with the foreman to make sure they had accountability, and we're in communication with the hospital. >> we will bring you the latest on this story. it has been three weeks since the pandemic era policy expired. instead, something else has happened. the number of migrant encounters is actually dropping, and by a lot. rosa flores is looking at the new data. this is fascinating, it is not what was predicted. first, tell us how much these encounters have fallen at the border. >> you know, they have dropped significantly. let me take you through the numbers. according to the u.s. border
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patrol chief, migrant encounters are about 3300, 3400 daily. now, if you look back at may 10th, for example, the day before title 42 lifted, according to u.s. cuss toms and border patrol, at the time the encounters surpassed 10,000. despite those numbers being so low, the governor of texas, greg abbott has continued to call on the nation's governors to send troops to the border. right now there's troops from idaho, florida, nebraska and tennessee. i'm in constant conversations with people on the border, including border sheriffs. in recent weeks they told me they feel the situation is under control, that the federal government has it under control. even then, more troops from other states around the country are arriving in the state of
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texas. >> so the administration, in advance of the expiration, made a number of changes, including getting the message out, if you attempt to cross illegally, it could be a five-year ban when you speak to folks down there, what do they contribute the drop to. >> reporter: exactly what you're describing. migrants are waiting in mexico, because they want to enter legal ly. now, there's one other interesting dynamic. cbp-1 was expanded after title 42 elevated. they could also wait in central mexico, so guess what has happened? central mexico, mexico city in
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particular, has seen a huge spike in the number of migrants waiting there. the head of the refugee agency there telling me that, during a portion of may, jim, they saw such a huge increase in the number of migrants seeking asylum there, that they are launching an app -- mexico is launching its own app next week to deal with the influx. no, the head of the agency tell mess they migrants are filing for protections in mexico while they wait. jim? >> really important update. rosa, thanks so much. new immigration policies have some concern of shortages of workers .
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controlling cnn's gary tuchman decided to find out why for himself. >> it's 7:30 a.m. in humid north florida, the beginning of a long day on a large farm, where hired workers in in the middle of harvest 2.2 million watermelon over the course of about six weeks with more than 150 people working to harvest the watermelon. i asked farm owner this. how many u.s. citizens pick on your farm? >> none. >> reporter: i requested a chance to work for one day on this farm to learn why so many farmers have such a difficult time getting americans to work on their farms. >> this watermelon is ripe, ready. we turn it over so the yellow
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part is on top, so the people who pick it up nose it's ready. >> it's all part of the guest worker program known as h2a. they follow strict provisions, which includes only hiring them after trying to employ americans first, which this farm owner did, and got no takers. >> the idea is we have this chain here, we're going to be taking these melons, put it on the bus and we'll do it for hours straight. he also represents other farms. you represent how many farms? and how many u.s. citizens do you know of who work on any of those farms? >> short of management, zero. >> reporter: guest workers can't
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get paid less than americans. florida's minimum h 2 a salary, and they're committed to work as many hours as they want for extra bonuses for the amount of work they have done. they are subject to income tax i asked this man who thinking would there aren't american working with him it's heavy, he says. the work is hard. these farmer don't disagree. americans have other choices and just don't want to do this, they say. >> i would say this work on a skate of 1 to 10, would be a 9. it's about as hard as it gets. >> reporter: in addition to being heavy, it's extremely monotonous. both these mem say not only is this program a necessity, but
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should have an application faster and more flexible. these guys are coming here for a reason. or wherever they come from, they're not here to played. it's very obvious. >> reporter: there is a lot of work to do. many men work into the evening. all of them, except for me, will be back for several weeks to come. >> our thanks to gary tuchman. ahead, why the united states is trying to get russia to come to the table to discuss nuclear weapons. "cnn news central" is back in just moments.
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authorities in india tonight say, at least 50 people are dead after a violent collision between three trains, all of it happened in the eastern part of the country. officials say search-and-rescue efforts are underway. three trains, goodness. tell us what we know. >> reporter: it sounds pretty horrific. hi, jim. what we know from authorities, this happened roughly about 7:00 p.m. local time. 50 people are dead, hundreds injured in this accident, in
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southeast india. officials say the number of injured exceeds 300. authorities are telling us two passengers trains collided. we don't know how the carriages came off the tracks, then hitting the third train. you can see one of the trains is actually on its side. we have more than 50 ambulances present. the india prime minister says he's discretioned by the train accidents, a tweets that i saw
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india, all the largest, with millions of people, just crisscrossing the country, of course. expecting the number to possibly to rise, but it sounds like a horrific train crash. >> staying on international news, the united states is making a new push to stop t the --. vladimir putin has control over the world's largest nuclear ar analysis, and the united states fears he's ready to expand the stockpile. cnn's kylie atwood joins us now.
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how did the united states plan to entice russia to come back to the table. >> that's a good question. what we heard from jake sullivan today, first, the united states is willing to sit down with both russia and china without preconditions, saying it's more used to have a conversation, than conversation with requirements and action to get to the table. with regard to russia, at the administration is now focused on what russia is doing. russia is out of compliance, no lo longer abiding by the current agreement. once thing the united states announced is they'll no longer provide information to russia that they had previously provided to them when they were still in that treaty. that's, of course, because russia is no longer providing that information to the understand.
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the other thing is they're modernizing their own nuclear force. they think if the u.s. modernizes their own force, that would be really key in serves as a deterrent for these other countries. even though they are no longer abiding, they are both following the limits of that treaty. what that means is the u.s. and russia both have about 1550 nuclear warheads deployed, but china is quickly coming on their heels. they have about 400 stockpiled nuclear weapons now. that could grow to 1500 by 2035. that's what u.s. official are watching.
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