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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com anderson, thank you very much, and good evening everyone. thank you for joining me tonight. crisis averted. and with those words, president biden tried to turn the page on a dangerously close call for the country in his address to the nation just a short while ago. it capped weeks of turmoil on washington and on wall street wall street over the first ever u.s. default that nearly happened. >> passing this budget agreement was critical. the stakes could not have been higher. our economy would have been thrown into recession. retirement accounts for millions of americans would have been decimated. 8 million americans would have lost their jobs. no one got everything they wanted, but the american people got what they needed. i know bipartisanship is hard, and unity is hard. but we can never stop trying. and there's nothing -- nothing -- we can't do when we do it together.

>> believe it or not, this was his first address delivered from the oval office. and the white house says that he chose that particular setting, with all of its history because of the gravity of the moment. now, throughout the speech, biden kept seizing on the theme of bipartisanship, praising both sides for working together and keep the american and global economies from potential collapse. and he also specifically mentioned house speaker kevin mccarthy by name. >> i want to commend senator -- speaker mccarthy. you know, he and i and our teams, we were able to get along and get things done, straightforward with one another, completely honest with one another, respectful with one another. both sides operated in good faith. both sides kept their word. >> and in that same vein, the

do dow -- employers added 339,000 jobs last month, a huge number. so, is america in a much better place in just a span of 24 hours? well, let's ask our great minds here, sofia nelson is a former house republican investigative committee counsel. sarah fisher is cnn media analyst. kiersten powers is cnn analyst. and doug heye is former rnc communications director. and doug, on the communications front, you know the oval office, for those of us who know, you know the oval office is a place of great cigsignificance. or at least the white house likes to think that. were you surprised to see him use this venue to give that add address. >> i wasn't surprised to see that venue. so often, if we go back a couple of years ago, if we hear something is happening at 7:00 on a friday, we think, oh, lord, what did trump do this time?

and it's another friday news dump. obviously the good news for bide skpn for kevin mccarthy on this deal, i would have given this at noon so that the tv news all day was talking about. a lot of americans didn't see this because it was -- >> the reason they did it at 7:00 is because the networks were taping. the networks networks, where people are usually watching "jeopardy!" they were watching president biden for 15 minutes. >> i think the exponent that doug is hitting on is this is important news. there was an economic crisis that was averted. that's a legitimately true story. when he says the republicans were acting in good faith, there were some people who would say, this wasn't really supposed to happen. they were just supposed to raise the debt limit because the money's already been spent and it's been turned into this thing where it's being held hostage. essentially biden had no choice but to negotiate with the republicans because otherwise the economy would have crashed and guess who would have gotten blamed. joe biden.

he's being very gracious. this is very on brand for biden. he loving to talk about bipartisanship and unity and all these things. so, i think he is putting a very happy face on something that was actually pretty ugly as it was happening. >> to that point about putting on the happy face, this message was so different from what we heard from senator chuck schumer last night, which was railing against republicans for the way they had handled the deal. to you r point, president biden wanted to sound authoritative, bipartisan, presidential, which i think americans needed to hear after weeks of these parties railing against each other. >> also take note, the bipartisanship is not just happy talk. he ran on that in 2020, and he'd been accused of abandoning that message in favor of talking about maga republicans. so, it seems to me the white house had a real reason to want to reinforce that in americans minds. but the numbers alone from today, 339,000 jobs created. that's a huge number.

i mean, almost contradictory in that it might give rise to more fears on inflation. but also look at gas prices. a year ago, $4.72. today, $3.57. these are also things that the president wanted to point out. >> two points. i agree with doug that i would have like to have seen him do it a little bit earlier. but i also agree you've got to get the networks to take what they can. i think two things are important. number one, the president of the united states is saying this is an oval office address, therefore it's very important. as someone who filled up her tank for $3.43 today, the thing i'm fascinated by, abby, is why isn't president biden getting more credit for what is actually a really strong economy with the jobs numbers and everything else we're talking about. so, i think he's trying to rein people back in saying, i am the guy who can get things done, i am the guy who can build consensus. >> that message is consistent

with joe biden's history. the last time we went through this was in 2011 when he negotiated as vice president. he worked with jessie hems, strom thurman, probably not names he wants to emphasize today. this is hard wired in joe biden's dna, and this may be the last shot at bipartisanship. >> it was so interesting listening to the week before the deal was struck, right, progressives on capitol hill, they were so, so nervous. why isn't president biden going out and talking? and here was his reaction to that question, why is he not talking enough about this potential deal? >> one of the things that i hear some of you guys saying is, why didn't biden say what a good deal it is? why would biden say what a good deal it is before a vote? you think that's going to help me get it passed? no. >> not exactly his first rodeo. >> yeah. >> but it really -- it's a

stylistic thing. this is how he likes to conduct business. and some people just don't like it. but it's what he wants to do. >> yeah. also it's the -- which remember that the people on the left side of the party have an agenda. they don't necessarily love joe biden, and they're trying to move him, you know, into a certain direction and put pressure on him. so, there's also the push and pull that's going on. so, they're always going to be criticizing him because they're always going to be wanting him to feel like he has to look out to his left flank and take care of them. so, i wouldn't read too much into it. but it is true that people are constantly criticizing joe biden for the way he handles things, and yet he seems to kind of know what he's doing, right? >> and the big lesson for me is the america is a center/center-right country and joe biden understands that going into 2024, as does kevin mccarthy, that he had to come up with a deal here that he couldn't let the freedom caucus run the show, as they would have liked to. and that this country is still a centrist country.

and i think that puts joe biden in a pretty good spot going into 2024. >> how does that stack up against ron desantis, who said this week he is going to destroy leftism in america if he is elected? i mean, we're not talking about the same kind of messaging. >> well, for joe biden, the most key thing is making sure that the economy is on track heading into his election. that's going to be his biggest factor in terms of electability. that was his biggest threat in terms of the last election is making sure that people felt economically stable. so, his message has to be different than somebody like ron desantis, who's entering the presidential campaign for the first time. he gets to make a name for himself. so, the two of them have very different objectives here when they're running on the stage, which is why joe biden, to your point, can run on a more centrist message. it made sense for what he needs to accomplish. i guess ron desantis does not feel the same. >> do republicans have to recalibrate on kitchen table issues earlier in this process

than maybe they would like to? >> they should always be doing that. when i worked in the house of representatives with eric canter, we put a series together, the majority leader called making life work, job training. i can hear virginia foxx yelling at me right now. to talk about job skills, to talk about pediatric cancer. republicans don't talk about this stuff enough. when they do, they do in a ham handed way. >> stand by for us. it's apparently a classified document with a plan to attack iran and donald trump is on tape talking about keeping it after he left office. but tonight, it's missing, and it is nowhere to be found, apparently. is national security at risk? we have new cnn reporting on that. competitive brother.

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military documents be returned. katelyn poe lanz is one of the reporters on the story. she's been breaking a lot of news on this extraordinary story. do we even know that this document that trump was describing is something that he had and that it exists? >> well, we don't have any reporting that would say otherwise. and, you know, we haven't heard the audio tape yet. we would love to hear the audio tape. but, it has been described to me and to my colleagues, holly reed and kaitlan collins, all of us from multiple sources. and in this july 2021 meeting at bedminster, it seems very apparent that donald trump is referring to the document in his hand, waving it around. and we also know from our reporting that this document, it does exist, and there have been many stories about donald trump at the end of his presidency wanting to launch some sort of attack on iran. and many people in his

administration, top, high-ranking people, including general milley, saying, no, we need to talk you out of this. you will start a war. >> there have been so many transfers of documents, whether it be searches or subject to subpoenas back into federal government custody. do they know all that they've given back? do they have a full accounting of what might have been in those 15 boxes here, you know, 15 boxes there? >> well, the justice department and the intelligence community will because that's part of the investigation, right? they have to figure out what was out of the hands of the government and what was back. as far as the trump lawyers go and the people around donald trump dealing with this, they very well might not know and it doesn't appear they do know exactly what was sent back that may have classified markings on it when they sent 15 boxes back in january of 2021 to the national archives. those lawyers have only gotten access to those boxes in recent months. and there are markers in the place where classified documents would be. they've been removed as part of

the investigation. and of course they don't know at all what was removed in the fbi search of trump's property. it's really possible that the justice department has this and just wants to make sure there's nothing else, there's no duplicates, no notes, or anything else. but we just don't know. >> that's an interesting point. the big question hovering over all this is, where are we in this process? where are we in jack smith's investigation? it really does start to feel like we might be coming up on the end? how does this fit in? >> there's been a lot of grand jury activity in this investigation before we learned about this july 2020 meeting and did the reporting about the audio tape. one of the things when you look at this is none of it is happening in a vacuum. it's a long, ongoing investigation. and it's one not just about what did donald trump do with documents he had in his possession in 2021 or 2022? there's also an obstruction of justice investigation. so, the question of, did donald

trump turn over everything he needed to to the federal government when they demanded with the subpoena, how difficult was that process after? and up to and including this new subpoena and the trump team's inability to find the document that satisfies what they believe they need to turn back over. it's all part of an investigation. >> that obstruction piece is so critical. i want to put up, this is what donald trump said today because vice president -- former vice president mike pence, he will not be charged in the case involving documents that were found in his residence. and trump says, they're not going to charge pence, but he says, when am i going to be fully exonerated? i am at least as innocent as he is. there are some obvious clear differences between these cases. >> a couple things for the audience. number one, taking national security documents -- i can't believe i actually have to say this -- is a real problem. as someone who's handled those type of documents as a committee counsel and as an attorney, this is a serious issue when you're

talking about issues with iran and et cetera. i think the fact he's so flippant about it really bothers me. and i think the doj needs to speed it up, abby. i mean, it's been dragged out. like you said, are we coming to the end? are they going to charge him? or are we going to go into the 2024 campaign with this hanging out there? that's what i think is the real issue here? will we get some real resolution and this keep hanging out there? and will he not be exonerated or charged? >> that's the question. >> what happened with pence and what happened with him are entirely different situations. >> absolutely. >> pence proactively handed information over, looked to see if he had any classified information and then handed it over. i think now pence has been exonerated. he's not going to be charged. and this shows that it's not political because pence is a republican, right? so, it's not something that they're out to get republicans. they clearly -- the problem is donald trump, that donald trump has behaved in the most reckless

way imaginable and has put people in danger. >> even down to how they talk about it. listen to just the contrast here between trump and pence talking about this issue. >> all i know is this. everything i did was right. we have the presidential records act, which i abided by 100%. >> those classified documents should not have been in my personal residence. mistakes were made. and i take full responsibility. >> okay. so, pence is going to be running for president in just a couple of days. this is going to be -- this is a microcosm of the contrast that exists between these two mean, by the way, used to be on the same ticket. >> sure. one of the things that make mike pence's potential candidacy interesting here is he's going to be able to say the first hand knowledge of the mistakes he's made. he hasn't been critical enough of trump for some people. i can tell you at the gridiron dinner where he lashed into trump on january 6th. he's willing to go a lot of places a lot of people aren't. >> gridiron washington dinner,

the washington elite. i want to see him do it on a stage in iowa. >> and i hope that happens too. but this is also part of a permission structure, where other republicans need permission. they shouldn't, but they need permission to go after donald trump. and all of this, whether they criticized trump handling or not, at least gives them the ability to say, there's too much drama, too much crisis. we need somebody focused on bea beating joe biden, and donald trump can't be focused on that. >> what do you mean permission? if you go after trump, trump comes after you. >> voters. >> isn't that the point? voters have shown -- when desantis went after him, look what happened to desantis. >> what i mean is trump's numbers aren't where biden's are for instance. look at biden's numbers are low. he's sort of vulnerable. trump's numbers are lower and the thought is trump is a lock in for this. these candidates need more information and more voters willing to hear something other

than just trump did everything right because that's what he always says. >> i disagree. trump owns a good one-third if not more of that base, and that is the problem. now, pence, to your point -- i used to be a mike pence fan. no more. i feel he should have been much more forthcoming. dan quayle shouldn't have had to say to him, no, don't do this, on january 6th. i think it'll be interesting. he really has nothing to do lose by interesting critical. it'll be interesting to see if he does that. we know christie is going to go after trump. we'll see if the permission comes, but it ain't going to come from the base because they love the guy. >> there's such a divide here between what republican voters think about the documents case. this is a quinnipiac poll asking do they think the taking of classified documents was intentional. 71% of republicans say it was intentional that biden did it. 48% say it was intentional that trump did it. when you look at the rest, you know, the total american

population. 48% think it was intentional that biden did it. 69% think it was intentional that trump did it. it's just such a cavernous divide between the republican primary voter and the average american electorate that will be dealt with in about a year from now. >> yeah. but the point is the only focus is what a small slice of that group thinks because they're hacking it out in the primary. so, everything is going to be geared toward that. and that's where i think that most of the candidates are not going to go after trump unless, like you said, chris christie probably will. and he's willing to take the blowback that comes toward him. but the other ones don't really want to be on the receiving end of that. i'm with sofia. i don't think that it makes a difference. i think they're with trump. >> most of them are. but he's not going to get this nomination by going around donald trump. >> i agree. absolutely. >> that's the argument on it all. everyone stand by for us.

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of potential caucus goers. eight gop candidates will be there in attendance including ron desantis, nikki haley, tim scott, and former vice president mike pence. and all of them no doubt will be looking to make inroads with the critical voting block of evangelical voters. they have typically been very faithful to donald trump. but the question is, can they make the case yet again? joining me now is bob vander platt, the top evangelical leader in iowa and ceo of the family leader. he's also a prominent christian conservative there and he runs that group. bob, thank you for having us. first of all, the last couple of days have been very significant in this race with ron desantis and donald trump really finally going head to head basically for the first time. what did you make of that and the tone that this campaign has taken? >> well, abby, first of all, thanks for having me on.

but we always take a look at hundreds of front runners come out of the gate. this was the first time where donald trump is really making a pitch to iowa. he's doing small events, not big rallies. the last big rally he had planned, he cancelled. some say it was due to the weather. others say it was due to the crowd size not being there for him. but he cancelled that. and ron desantis has made a few different stops in the state of iowa as well. and i'd sum up this week as being an excellent week for ron desantis. the crowds were large. the enthusiasm was there. and i think you sense in iowa a willingness to turn the page and primarily on -- not because of what president trump has done as president in those four years. but today's 2024, it's not 2016. they want somebody who can win. they want a new generational leader that has a vision for the future, just not a complaint about the past. >> so, are you saying that you don't think that trump can win in 2024? >> i think iowa is wide open in

regards to the caucus. i think the general election, that's the former president's highest hurdle is can he win against joe biden or kamala harris or michelle obama or whoever put the democrats -- the democrats put up? >> do you believe he can? >> too much of america has made up their mind. i believe it's going to be very difficult. i think too much of america has made up their mind on the former president. and, again, it's not because of all the good things he did in his administration. it's really a lot of the peripheral things, more about his style than his substance. and that's why i think iowans and americans are saying, hey, we're willing to take a look at this field, whether it be ron desantis or mike pence or nikki haley or asa hutchinson or tim scott. they're willing to size up this field to see who's the best one to carry the torch in 2024. >> so, here are the numbers. the register poll from early march says 58% of evangelical voters have a favorable view of

donald trump. and then beyond that, a cnn poll, just more broadly in the race, puts trump at 53% to desantis' 26%. so, if you're ron desantis, for example, the next closest competitor, what does he have to do to win over evangelical voters in this race? >> i think he needs to do what he's doing, and that is highlight his record of accomplishment as governor of florida. and believe me, the national polls -- we've seen those national polls before. in 2008, it would have been rudolph giuliani. in 2012, it would have been rick harris. in 2016, it would have been scott walker or jeb bush. none of those made it. so, it's not the national polls. but iowa becomes crucial. i think if ron desantis or one of those other candidates emerges and they're able to upend the former president, i think it's game on for the nomination. if the former president is able to steam roll iowa, i don't know if you're going to be able to do

that. >> can i talk to you about abortion here? is it a problem that underneath donald trump nor ron desantis have endorsed a national abortion ban? >> i believe what the pro life community wants to see is clarity on this issue, not nuance. i think ron desantis, by signing the heart beat bill in florida, offers a lot of clarity in him saying, you know, he will champion a culture of life, which basically is saying that you bring me pro-life legislation to my desk, most likely i'm going to sign it. >> so, you don't need to hear them say -- >> the former president is being -- >> you don't need to hear him say, i am for a national abortion ban? >> well, right now we are in a different world after the overturn of roe v. wade. there's lite of us wrestling with issues. i do believe the federal government has a role on

limiting the governor newsoms and other blue state governors who want to have abortion on demand, which is out of step with this country. which is why i think lindsey graham and his proposal is a very viable proposal. so, we'll see what that works out. what the pro-life community is not interested in, abby, is nuance, let's make a deal, we're not sure where we're going to land, blaming pro-lifers for the midterm losses versus the midterm wins. we want a presidential candidate that offers clarity from the sanctity of life. and i think we have several in this field that will do that. >> what you're describing there, the let's make a deal language. former president trump used that language in the cnn town hall. is that what you're referring to there? >> it is. i watched kaitlan collins, and i saw the president's answer. i thought it was very nuanced. we're thrilled he gave us three supreme court justices that overturned roe v. wade, but we have cause for pause when he

throws under the bus -- which we have in iowa, south carolina has it, and many other states have it. and then saying we're willing to make a deal. i don't think the pro life community wants to hear that. we don't want nuance. we want clarity. >> bob vanderplatt, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you, abby. and a programming reminder for you at home, nikki haley will join cnn for a presidential town hall live from iowa at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. and former vice president mike pence will also be in iowa next wednesday for a town hall of his own. you can catch that at 9:00 p.m. eastern time right here on cnn. and coming up next, youtube is making some waves tonight, announcing that it will allow election lies back onto its platform. plus another ukrainian tennis star refusing to shake her opponent's hand after a french open match. hear why and see what happens next.

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harder to discern fact from fiction on youtube, especially when it comes to u.s. elections. the video giant says that it has reversed its policy on removing content that features false claims about the 2020 election and other past presidential elections. it is a remarkable change, given how many people, including major party leaders, like former president donald trump, continue to push election lies. youtube says that over the last two years, it has taken down tens of thousands of videos related to misinformation, and it's defending its new policy by saying this. in the current environment, we find that while removing this content does curb some misinformation, it could have the effect of curtailing political speech. i want to bring in sarah fisher of axios -- or bring her back in. she broke this story today, a major, major story in the lead-up to 2024. in some ways i'm sympathetic to

what youtube is saying there because i don't think this really is even the tip of the iceberg in terms of misinformation. but it seems to be geared pretty directly at the fact that donald trump is running again and he's going to be repeating these lies over and over again. >> yes. and i think it's also not just donald trump but it's a lot of elected officials. i think youtube thinks this is part of the 2024 republican platform. what the concern is if you don't allow dhiepd of speech, you're essentially not going to be allowing a pretty big plethora of the republican party from uploading video and speech to the platform. the challenge would be if this is harmful misinformation, don't you want to protect your community? what youtube is saying with the update today, yes, we want to protect our community, but we don't believe now in this political climate two years after the 2020 election that this is going to cause real world harm, meaning they don't think allowing this type of content is going to insight violence and riots and all that.

>> i mean, it already did. i mean it literally already did. >> why wouldn't it? it did. right? it demonstrably did. we all watched it happen. >> the supreme court upheld that, you know, unless there's -- you've got to improve this intention malice that you were trying to collude with them to do something. otherwise the content is not on you if it's false or it's bad, right? so, that's a problem. >> the supreme court did absolve tech platforms' responsibility in term of third party information being upgraded. that was in response to terrorism. >> the way i would think about it is this. if they do see that there is going to be a problem with violence, i think youtube is leaving enough flexibility that they'll revert back. and i've seen them do it a million times. when it comes to political ad policies, they put them up, they extend them, they pull them back. but if there is some sort of huge riot, the first platform

that's going to move, which is youtube, is the one we're going to look at. >> you can't put the genie back in the bottle. once it's out, it's out there. if the problem is that, oh, people aren't going to be able to upload things that republicans are saying, maybe republicans should stop saying it, right? is that not the solution to the problem? so, i think that -- look, i support free speech and i don't think we want to silence political speech. but this company does have responsibility. and that's not a violation of free speech to say we're not going to allow you to upload information that is demonstrably false. >> my concern is these aren't just lies. these are conspiracy theories. and when you get riddled with conspiracy theories, we see two things that happen very quickly, anti-semitism in some form and violence. and those two things usually combine. and that's where potentially some serious unintended consequences here. >> back to her point, i hope the supreme court will look at this outside of the context of terrorism. i agree with you that was a very narrow window. but i think it's going to come up again and again, what's the

responsibility of facebook, youtube, google, et cetera, with information. and i think they have one. >> i think the direction we're moving as a country is that we need to hold these products accountable for the way they of amplify information. i think this is why there's going to be nuance. in the past like with the 2020 election and then january 6th, the platforms weren't thinking as much about okay, if misinformation and conspiracies are on our platform, what do we do to make sure no one sees them? i think now we have more at stake. that's the thing that congress is taking a look at. that's the type of thing if it were ever to go back to the supreme court it would be taking a look at. saying you can't put it on the platform at all, that's where the platform is going to suffer. >> i just heard in the previous interview, we don't want nuance. we want clarity. and i think that's where a lot of voters are right now with this as well. >> look, you bring up a point about twitter. but, i mean, look at these stats. only 26% of americans get their news from youtube. that's a quarter of americans.

it's a sizable chunk. but they're not the only player, maybe not even the biggest player. tiktok is getting up there. and we were -- as you were talking about algorithmic transparency, youtube is getting a lot of heat thanks to your scoop. what about all these other platforms? how are they going to deal with election lies? >> youtube is never the first mover. meta is always the first mover. meta typically rolls things out first, so i was surprised to see this from youtube. i think what is going to happen is they are going to be the ones that are going to set the tone for the rest of the tech platforms. remember, it was meta that first let trump back on the platform. youtube did it and followed. i think the rest of the tech platforms might follow. one clarification about tiktok though. there's a difference. tiktok intentionally wants to avoid products that accept political advertisement. that is not google and meta and facebook. >> it's very interesting, sarah.

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tensions stemming from russia's war on ukraine casting another shadow over on the french open tonight. for the second time in the tournament, a ukrainian player refused to shake hands with her russian or belarusian opponent after their match. cnn's kitely atwood has the latest. >> reporter: after alina svitolina beat her russian opponent anna blingcova in the third round, she chose not to shake hands with her russian opponent. this happens as russia's invasion of ukraine rages on. here's how sa vet lienena descrd

it. >> i'm standing for my country, doing everything possible in the way to support, to give a good spirit for the men, for the women who are in the front lines fighting for our land, for our country. >> reporter: this was not an isolated incident. just in recent days, there was another ukrainian tennis player who refused to shake hands at the end of her match with a belarusian opponent. and svitolina said that ukrainian tennis players like herself from odesa, they want to see the russian players speak out against the war. but we have heard from some of the belarusian and russian players who have said that they oppose the war, but they don't think it would be very valuable for them to be speaking out against it. they have said that the war, the results of what is happening right now, are not in their hands. we should also note that coming this weekend, svitolina is going to face another russian opponent in the fourth round of the open. on another story, hollywood

may be coming to the end of an era. the age of the action hero. earlier this week, actor and former california governor arnold schwarzenegger talked to reporters about his friendship with fellow action star bruce willis, calling him a huge star who will be remembered as a great man. bruce willis, you remember, has stepped away from acting because of his health. he was diagnosed with fronto temporal dementia, a brain disorder. according to arnold schwarzenegger, action tires don't retire, they just reload. he would know. harrison ford is starring in a new indiana jones movie that's set to release in a few weeks. the 80-year-old says this new chapter will be the last time that he puts on indy's hat. that got us thinking about the other action heroes that many of us grew up with, whether the action stars of the 21st century are measuring up to the stars of the '80s and '90s.

is the age of the action hero over? or are the stars of today's marvel movies and dc comic films stepping up to the challenge? joining me to discuss is media analyst paul deragabie. this is such an interesting -- first of all, it's great to see actors saying nice things about each other and recognizing their accomplishments. the days of those big box office stars are really kind of the golden age of the action hero. then you have the tom cruzs and the will smiths of the world. when you look at the field now, are you seeing actors today who have the kind of success on opening night as some of these names? >> yeah, you know, that's a great question. and i think this whole idea of, are there any more action heroes left? or maybe it's just different. because if you think about stallone and willis and arnold schwar

schwarzenegger, they're on the mount rushmore of action heroes. they built their reputation on the big screen and movie theaters before social media. think about that. people around the world seeing them on the big screen. bigger than life. bruce willis, we've got to give it up for bruce willis. not only is he an amazing action star, he had great range as an actor. you think about "the sixth sense" where he played dr. malcolm crowe. budge coolidge in "pulp fiction." john mcclain, 1988's huge hit coming after he was such a huge star on tv in "moonlighting." that put him on the map. it's a different era now. we certainly do have action heroes today, but like you said, many of them are part of ensemble casts in marvel movies or "fast x" or other films like that. it's a different era now. it doesn't mean we can't have them, it's just a different time and place. >> i'm glad he gave a shout-out to acting. i think that just kind of gets overlooked sometimes in all the focus on the action part of it.

>> that's right. >> i remembered seeing steven spielberg as we were coming out of the covid pandemic talking about tom cruise and "top gun" and saying that he basically saved hollywood's ass. i guess i can say that on a friday night. some of this is about the movie industry, too. you mentioned social media. but there's also streaming. people's habits are changing. >> yeah, they are changing. but what we've seen over the past year in our numbers and throughout the pandemic is that people want to go to the movie theater. we're up some 30% box office year to date over last year. we'll have 32, 33 more wide release films in 2023 than we did in 2022. so the movie theater has its place. either replaceable. if you go see "john wick chapter 4" with keanu reeves or "no time to die," ana dematerial miss

could be the next big action hero. everyone remembers her performance. a great performance. but certainly audiences love seeing movies like "john wick" on the screen right now in a theater. there's just nothing like it. it's very visceral. and i just love that schwarzenegger really gave the love to his buddy, bruce willis. again, they have that bond of being the classic action heroes along with stallone. >> when you come back, paul, we'll talk about the women. >> yeah. >> and the women action stars. >> absolutely. >> there's a lot to talk about there. but you gave ana dearm miss a good shout-out. paul fgarabedian, thank you for joining us. "who's talking with chris wallace" is next on cnn. or more. that's why farmers new car replacement pays to replace it with a new one of the same make and model. get a whole lot of something with farmers p policy perks. ♪ farmers mnemonic ♪

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