we're so focused in on what we do well and who we are as a group. at the end of the day, that's what we fall back on. make or miss shots. we're going to be who we are. because we're not worried about anybody else. that's how it's been all year long. i think it's i don't give a damn factor. >> well, damn, jimmy. how about the other miami area team? can they even up their play-off series at one apiece? the florida panthers down 0-1 to vegas who got stellar performance in the net from the goalie in game one. both teams know there is still plenty of series left to play. >> we know that it doesn't get mean anything winning one game in the world series. for us to focus is our next game and that's how we're going to approach. >> we all try to have this opportunity. you know, for many of us, it was pretty farfetched. so just, you know, if you can't enjoy it, you know, you shouldn't be here.

>> poppy, game two of the stanley cup final is tonight. puck drops at 8:00 p.m. eastern on tnt. >> thanks. >> got it. and "cnn this morning" continues right now. #. >> i don't play for second. i'm in it to win it. >> nikki haley making a generational appeal to v republican voters on a cnn town hall. >> they did differentiate herself from donald trump and desantis. >> honestly, we let guys do it for a long time. it may be time for a woman to get it done. >> police say they found no survivors from a small plane that crashed in southwest virginia on sunday. >> there was that very loud sonic boom. >> it was the result of the f-16 fighter jets being scrambled. >> this is something that was intentional

intentional and they were trying to get to this airplane where the pilot was not responding. >> the chinese warship cut in fro front of the destroyer. >> u.s.-china relationship is at the lowest point in decades. >> we will, i hope, soon see american officials engaging in senior levels with their chinese counterparts over the coming weeks. >> this is the scene of one of the deadliest railroad zasters that yand has seen in the modern history. >> it was scarce. it is something that i really cannot describe. there were lots of o bodies. it was horrifying. >> some quick action from a school bus driver in milwaukee saved the lives of 37 students. >> she acted just one minute slower, this whole scene could have been much worse. >> when the kids are on my bus, they're like my children. i reacted in a way that i was

expected to react for my son. >> total hero. we would all want her driving our children. good morning, everyone. we're so glad you're with us on this monday. glad you're here. >> good to be here. >> getting up extra early. >> let's start this hour with this. a sonic boom rocking the nation's capital as a fighter jet flew over airspace. >> so, that boom that, boom there, that was the boom caught on security video. >> officials say the pilot was not responding to the radio. the u.s. capitol was put on alert. we're told the plane did not crash on its own. brian todd is following this story. four people died in this crash. do we know why it happened?

>> investigators still trying to figure that out. there was indeed some scary moments in the skies over washington, d.c., ending in that crash. >> it was the boom heard far and wide across the washington, d.c., region. disrupting a sunday music rehearsal. virginia after a private jet with an unresponsive pilot went down. and in an attempt to intercept the plane, military fighter jets scrambled so fast they call it a sonic boom.

in tennessee at 1:13 p.m. and bound for long island macarthur airport in new york. the plane with four people onboard turned around over long island heading back over the washington, d.c. area nearly two hours after it originally took off. f-16s thoz authorized to travel at supersonic speed. the pilot of the civilian aircraft was unresponsive as the f-16 fighter jets attempted to make contact. at one point, according to the statement, the f-16s used flares in an attempt to draw attention from the pilot. the cessna 560 citation five traveling five miles off course going off radar at 3:23 p.m. and ultimately crashing in a rural mountainous terrain near george washington national forest near charlottesville, virginia. late sunday, according to a statement from virginia state

police, first responders reached the crash site by foot but found in survivors. now according to faa records that, private jet was registered to a company called encore motors out of melbourne, florida. they told "the washington post" that the family members of theirs were onboard that plane including their daughter, a grandchild, and her nanny. they told "the new york times" that the family was returning to their home in east hampton, new york, from another family home in north carolina. and that their grandchild is 2 years old. investigators are expected to be at the scene later today. >> brian todd, thank you. >> thank you so much. so sad. the. >> we have new details about the group of 16 migrants who were dropped off in sacramento by a private jet without any advance warning. a local charity says they were approached by individuals in el paso, texas, promising jobs and other free support. >> we believe the state of florida is involved. and one of the vendors that they

hired with an official budgetary alotment called virtual systems was involved in moving these migrants from texas to new mexico then to sacramento. we believe the state of florida is behind. this we are investigating now to see if there are any criminal or civil laws violated. >> we're following all. this good morning to you. i think the key question is did the -- i know there were promises of jobs, et cetera. did the migrants know where they were going? >> good morning to you, poppy. i spoke with an organizer with sacramento active nonprofit helping out the migrants. she told me they were shaken up, confused. they told her, many of them didn't know where they were going before they got on to that plane. and many of them also not even knowing that sacramento was in california. so, here's what we know about the journey. these are 16 migrants from colombia and venezuela. they went from el paso, texas, then they were bussed to new mexico. from there, flown to california.

and then bussed to sacramento and dropped off on the front steps of a church. now, flores says the migrants were promised help by individuals from a private contractor. they were promised that if they went to a different migrant center, they would be helped out with jobs, with shelter, with food. a bus driver dropped them off again at the front steps of the church. rang a doorbell to the building. the bus then took off and never returned. one of the migrants called a cell phone number of two of the individuals and suddenly that number was no longer working. here's attorney general rob bunta of california who is heading this investigation. >> the first thing that happened is someone lied to them. someone told them they would help them find the work. and this he deserted them and dumped them in sacramento and

didn't lift a finger to help find them a job. >> again, believes that florida, the state of florida is behind this because these migrants had documents that point to official florida government. he's also pointing to a company that is an aviation company behind other migrant flights back in the fall. two planes full of migrants dropped off in martha's vineyard. >> thank you for that reporting. and new this morning, russia's claiming that it fought back a large scale offensive from the ukraine on the front line and a claim that cnn has not been able to independently verify. and russia also released this video. defense ministry claims it shows ukrainian armored vehicles coming under heavy fire. you see here plumes of smoke billowing upwards.

there has been a big push for battleground secrecy out of the counter offensive including new video with ukrainian ships. watch. >> also, ukrainian president telling "the wall street journal" over the weekend that he and his troops are ready. >> she's obviously a tense moment. there is a lot of talk about the counter offensive. is there anything you can tell us about that? >> yeah. >> translator: in my opinion, as to have day, we're ready to do it. we would like to have certain things but we can't wait for months. we strongly believe we will succeed. i don't know how long it will take. the. >> we've seen increased attacks in russia in recent weeks. shelling in the border region and drone attacks in moscow at a russian oil refinery even at the

kremlin. joining us now, army major mark lions. welcome to the program. good morning. >> how significant are what we're starting to see now happening within russia's territory? >> yeah. i think there is significant. i think there is always a chance for warfare. what that means is that once the conventional war dies down, it's this underground troops that take place. they've been setting this for the last few months. the main supplies are. they have to attack to wage war. they come from supply lines in areas like. this i think that's why they're going to be effective. they set the tone for the past few months. >> ukraine also making new gains in the east. how significant do you think that all sort of becomes as this counter offensive unfolds? >> yeah. i think that -- so, this is the river. this is the main obstacle for anything ukraine does from a counter offensive perspective. i'm surprised that president zelenskyy keeps talking about this. i would want to keep this quiet. we're talking about the definition of a counter offensive.

think battle of the bulge. think of massive attack that takes place on an axis of advance, in order to split the enemy in a certain location. watching the ukraine military set this up this report, for example this morning from russia, that's a location where likely the counterattack could take place. russia response to that, again, on the other side, they were not effective at it. he says they don't even control the airspace. i'm still not sure that the counter offensive is actually still on. >> speaking of the strategy of just sort of diverting resources, why don't we do that? >> well, you know, they're struggling for areas within the south to bring military assets there. reports over the weekend say the tanks are not there. for them to be effective, they have to fight what is called a combat force maneuver operation where artillery, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and bridging material, things that they must bring more to the battlefield that they just don't appear to have just yet. >> major, over the weekend, cnn had new reporting that ukraine

has essentially cultivated agents inside of russia and perhaps also supplying them with drones. in terms of drones, how significant in terms of equipment are drones? >> this is the third dimension of warfare to be creative with what we can do with drones. they obviously observe use for attack. they allow them to touch moscow and areas in place that's russia thought they were safe in. both sides, too, the russians have used the drones from iran as well. will this is new wrinkle to the battlefield. >> how do you expect drones to compare in terms of strategy moving forward compared to the f-16s, et cetera? >> tactical advantage only. not really stra teethic. it provides certain areas on ground that would give them more or less a capability that they didn't have there before.

gives them a greater length. they need distance from ukraine. if they're going to have any success, they need to attack inside of russia. attack the capabilities they have of waging war there. the drone gives them that capability. >> major mike, great to you have this morning. thank you. >> all right. coming up, nikki haley taking swipes at ron desantis and donald trump as she tries to stand out from the other republican presidential hopefuls. >> he went and basically gave the highest corporate subsidies in florida history to disney. but because they went and criticized him, now he's going to spend taxpayer dollars on a lawsuit. >> coming up, we'll have the highlights from last night's cnn town hall. >> and another strong jobs report is easing concerns about a possible recession in the u.s. yes, that is exactly what i just said. we'll break down the latest indicators showing where the economy appears to be heading. we'll be right back. e lexus nx with intuitive tech safefety radar detector: watch for traffic.

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i think it's important to be honest with the american people. we're in this situation. don't lie to them and say, oh,

we don't have to deal with entitlement reform. yes, we do. yes, we do. it's the reality. i'm always going to tell the truth. it is going to hurt? yes. but for our kids, they know they're not going to get it anyway. >> republican presidential hopeful making a distinction between herself and donald trump and desantis. joining us now is scott jennings. good morning. welcome to you both. let's start with coming off that town hall. how did she do? was it a good night? >> i think she was a very polished presentation. she may be the most polished politician in the field. the question is, is that what people are looking for? >> that is the question. the. >> and, you know, she had some great moments on russia. i think like some of the honesty on a few issues. she does engage in a lot of the normal political things that is o

o of vogue right now in the trump era. the. >> you know nikki haley. you were in elected office at the same time. we're from the same home county. we're punching above our weight this morning. for nikki haley, she is the most talented politician in the country. i say that with no hesitation. she is very skilled and very good one-on-one and the small retail settings which is going fwoed to bode well in new hampshire and south carolina. the problem is nobody really knows what she stands for. i'm not sure she clarified that last night. you saw many of the inconsistencies. and sometimes politicians, including myself, we try to get too cute and we begin to weave in and out and make no sense. you saw that on abortion. she didn't want to be nailed down. she signed a 20-week abortion bill in south carolina with an exception for life of the mother. but no exception for rape and incest. she didn't want to talk about that last night. she didn't want to talk about

whether or not she would sign her successor six-week abortion ban. so when you think about these things, you see it was uneven. she was extremely strong, to scott's point, on issues she knows very well on afghanistan, on russia, on foreign policy. when she got in the wokism and the cultural politics of the day, you saw she was really uncomfortable. >> let's play what she said about ukraine and western support in ukraine and compare it to what one of her rivals of another republican candidate had to say about what he thinks you should do vis-a-vis funding in ukraine. here they were both yesterday. >> ukraine has the ability to win. but we have to think bigger than that. that is not the case. to say we should stay neutral. it is in the best interest of america. it's in the best interest of our national security for ukraine to win. we have to see this through. we have to finish it. >> i do not think it is a top foreign policy for us.

i don't think it is preferable for russia to invade a sovereign country. i think the job of the u.s. president is look at american interests. >> not only did she distinguish herself from him, she distinguished herself from donald trump and where ron desantis was when tucker carlson asked him about it. >> it's a clear eyed position about the need for the united states to help the ukrainians repel this russian invasion. what we didn't play is went further. he said we have to end the war bha b by making major concessions to the russians. this is a dorm room debate. she had a real clear eyed position about what is in the best interest. and whether this position is the biggest issue in the primary or not, the fact that someone is saying it out loud and making the case of the american people, we have to win this thing. that is a good thing. i'm glad she did that. >> she was very clear. she was very good. the problem that nikki haley is going to have is that is the republican party where she is

right now? she sounded a lot like lindsey graham. they just elected donald trump which is the antithesis to everybody i napd. ron desantis is going to have his lunch eaten by nikki haley and donald trump on that stage on the issue of foreign policy. accident have the depth. you saw it in the tucker carlson interview. nikki haley can debate. the problem is the majority of the republican voting base? she was in -- she made it clear on the ground. we're not doing the right funding on them. we're working with allies. i think actually that position will fly. it will be interesting to see how they get to the campaign or if this campaign is going to affect the policy. that is also the position of joe biden. >> they're leading into foreign policy there. that is for time for the u.n. is that a top issue for republican voters?

>> i think it's just, to steal a word from scott, this whole thing is floating on vibes. it really is. they want to fight her. they want someone that is going to feel like they're in the ring. they're fighting for them. i don't think they want someone that is an. asks and os policy. >> you know who is a fighter, chris christie? >> i'm starting to see that. don't bury the lead. chris christie is going to be somebody -- i personally have a conspiracy theory. i think chris christie has one job in this primary, take out donald trump. i think donors said do you the marco rubio thing to donald trump. so we shall see. i think nikki haley will be able to stand the test of time. i don't think it's her time. >> i -- so, i get it may not be what most voters are focuseded on. but a real issue with entitlements, i thought jake did a good job asking for a plan. she is one that said younger folks in their 20s can't be

guaranteed to retire at whatever age we're at now. we're at 64? >> so far away. >> you're closer. >> listen to this. this is where jake asked her, at what age? what is your plan then to get this back on track? here's the exchange. >> time for some honesty from nikki haley. if the retirement age is 66 or 67 right now, what you are talking about raising it to for the people in their 20s? >> we have to do the calculations. we have to figure out -- >> count it. >> i am will going to count it. you know what accountants do? they do home work and they make sure they do it right or don't do it. i won't give you a false number. >> it was not an answer. >> yeah. it was a little bit of a dodge. i do like the fact she's being honest about it. they're trying to appeal to all these new republicans. you may recognize them because they were bill clinton's voters in the 1990s. we now sound like democrats from the 90s on entitlements. we're not going to touch it.

will we'll never touch it. let's bury our head in the sand. that is not a legitimate position. she said last night, it is going bankrupt if it we don't do something. i like the honesty on the problem. i would like to see more specificity. this is not theish thu is going to decide. >> what about the issue of woke? i want to play for you quickly. that, of course, came up last night. we'll hear what she said and talk about it on the other side. >> having define woke. >> there is a lot of things. you want to start with biological boys playing in girls' sports? that's one thing. the fact we have gender pro noun classes in the military now. i mean all of these things that are pushing what a small minority want on the majority of americans, it's too much. >> you want to take this? >> this is your favorite topic. >>, no it's not. i appreciate that. no. first of all that, is not the definition of woke. woke is heconfused by a lot of . >> we talked about that on friday's show. >> it's used to mean anything

that is not white that, is not straight. so that is just not what it is. you hear people talk about things like cultural marxism, that is not the root of the word. the word started in 1920 for most of america. they understand it was about black folk talking to other black folks saying stay woke when you're in mississippi or alabama. stay woke politically. stay woke philosophically. that's what the word means. to take it and make it mean something and make it into something it's not, she was stumbling across the definition. it means transgender girls in a girl's bathroom? is that what woke means? what does it mean to you, nikki haley? she can't define it. most republicans can't. i really hate the debate. it is a part of the cultural war that they're trying to wage against -- i don't know. >> why are you so unsaesed with h -- unsatisfied with the answer? >> because the republicans running for president and most republican voters perceive a very deep cultural rot in the

united states that is government, media, corporations, universities, everywhere they look they see this cultural rut. that is the definition. she hit that note on woke. then she attacked ron desantis on disney. after saying his one law didn't go far enough. she was -- she is not as comfortable with it. this is where desantis is scoring. he is the one who has the most clearly defined it and seems to be most clearly focused on it and will not let it go or be distracted. >> that is also known as diversity. who is keeping count? >> a lot more to discuss. good thing is, it's only june. we'll have plenty of time. >> we have much more time. >> oh, yes. >> thank you both. >> all right. coming up this wednesday, dana bash is going to moderate the cnn presidential town hall from iowa live with former vice president mike pence. it airs at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. >> meantime, "the new york times" reporting that a voice memo made by trump's attorney is now in the hands of doj

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so, voice memo, there is a recording and it is you about one of donald trump's attorneys and it's now in the hands of doj prosecutors. and that could be key in the classified documents case that is dogging the former president. "the new york times" reporting, citing sources familiar with the matter, says, quote, in complete sentences and narrative tone that sound like it was ripped from a novel, he recounteded in detail a month's long periodst documents investigation. it also goes on to report that there was records of a may 22 meeting that he had with trump about the doj subpoena for the return of all classified documents. he also on this reporting talked about his june search of mar-a-lago for classified documents before the fbi came there. jack smith obtained pages of the notes.

memorizing -- memorializing the memo. it is then donald trump asked if he could push back on the subpoena. that is according to sources familiar with the notes taken by corchran and later handed over to investigators. joining us now to talk about the implication of this reporting in particular, is the professor of law alexis hoag. it was a real fight with the judge who ultimately ruled that his notes have to go to the jack smith. but this recording, why do you think it could be so key if indeed he does recommend charges? >> the judge allowed the notes that he was having with himself for working for donald trump. generally this is attorney-client privilege. and the chief judge at the time, she since rotated prothe chief judge position said it's okay to sort of pierce what would

otherwise be private attorney-client privilege information because it could relate to a crime or a fraud. what this indicates is that trump's lawyer, trump may have used the lawyer, corchran, to perpetuate a crime. so what we're learning from that recording is that corchran was instructed to just look in storage facility at mar-a-lago. he was not allowed to look elsewhere. hes with not adviced to look elsewhere. these are all the classified documents right here from the storage facility. we know that is not accurate. there are other classified documents found in other locations. and so he was giving limited information. >> wasn't stopped from looking elsewhere. but he was directed. they're all here in this location. >> that's right. these are all the classified documents, he was working with incomplete information. somebody in trump's team instructed corchran to just look in the storage facility knew

that there were other documents elsewhere. >> in terms of that somebody, who else might prosecutors want to talk to? who else would they want to talk to in terms of understanding how that all went down? >> exactly. so, we have learned as the investigation continues to unfold that the department of justice subpoenaed recordings of who is moving in and out of the storage room. they have video footage. and so i imagine that he would likely be subpoenaed and have to testify before the grand jury. >> one of -- so you brought up the crime fraud exception. trump has believed and said many times that, you know, attorney-client privilege. u.s. versus nixon, the supreme court said not always. the they said the president

cannot shield himself from producing evidence in a criminal prosecution. although it is valid in other situations. it's not just about attorney-client privilege. it is also claims of executive privilege here. >> exactly. and what we're working with here is trump is has allegedly retai sensitive information. when you look at the different provisions of federal law, again, he has not been charged yet. we do have some indication based on the search warrant that was executed last year in 2022. it really just requires that trump has retained documents willingly, that he withheld documents upon request from federal agencies. i'm glad you brought up nixon. we're working within the parameters of the president hl records act, pra. and it was passed right after

president nixon tried to destroy records following his presidency in 1974. so this legislation was passed in 1978. we have trump claiming the presidential records act allows me to have these documents. in fact, the act says a president cannot retain documents after the presidency. they belong to the public. so we have national archives. they're requesting these documents. trump saying we don't have them. there is more documents, documents he is referencing that have not been turned over. >> so it may not hold legal water here? >> exactly. >> good to have you. thank you. all right. many ceos, investors and economists predicted a recession would be hitting right about now. why aren't we seeing it? wale week break down the data. >> and prince harry in court in

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welcome back. did you some interesting reporting on the major indicators and what they tell us. >> it's amazing how different things are. a year ago, we were bracing for an economic hurricane. that's what jamie dimon were talking about, bloomberg even had a model saying there was a near 100% chance of a recession.

and, so, here we are now. the year is almost half over. no recession. wee basically got the equivalent of a thunderstorm. and not even a bad thunderstorm like the one on friday that caused my 3-year-old to run with his friends and hide behind the couch. not even that. it's been pretty mild. the big reason why is the jobs market. it is so much stronger than anyone thought was possible. it's like a run away train. >> that's been the silver lining, the jobs market, consumer spending. what is not so rosie is the fed and how they raised interest rates. the fed meets again next week. might we still see a pause even on the back of the strong jobs report? >> yes. right now the investors are placing 75% chance that the fed does nothing. that means borrowing costs won't go higher than they have. and then the fed could actually continue to raise rates later this summer. but the whole reason why people

are worried about a recession is because the fed was moving more aggressively than it ever has before. and what is so amazing is that despite that, people keep getting jobs. companies are hiring. that friday jobs report was -- >> blockbuster. >> i thought brian moynihan, they have such a pulse on the average american consumer. his interview yesterday is really interesting. he was asked about a recession and here's what he said. >> so, the last time i was here was the end of last year. and we predicted recession this year. we moved it out. it is third quarter they are year into first quarter. mild recession. and unemployment gets up in the high 4% range. still very low by historical norms. that's our core prediction. >> my point is, it's like the recession is just getting pushed to 2024. that echos what jamie dimon said last week, too. >> right. it seems like it keeps getting pushed out further and further.

bank of america is warning that the economy is losing hundreds of thousands of jobs. right around now, we're seeing the opposite. things have been so much stronger than expected that moody's analytics told me, quote, increasingly the odds of a recession this year are fading. again that, doesn't mean that things can't change. something bad could happen. and that could cause a recession. or maybe it's just delayed until next year. the big debate was hard landing or soft landing. and now it doesn't look like there is a hard landing and shifted to either soft landing or no landing where the fed has to do more next year. but for now, i think it's good news that we're not in a recession that people thought we would be. >> i think that's a great way to end that. certainly, you can always predict or forecast what might happen in the future. but for now, jobs are plentiful and people are spending. we can leave it there. >> exactly. >> thank you. >> thank you guys. >> also this morning, court resuming in the uk phone hacking

trial against a publisher of the "daily mirror." prince harry is expected to give evidence in court as he and more than 100 other high profile figures are suing the mirror newspaper group for accusations of hacking their phones going back as far as 20 years. we're covering all this live outside of the high court in london with more. good morning. what can you tell us? >> poppy, we're learning more details from prince harry's legal representative inside the court today. delivering their opening statements. some 147 articles have been submitted as part of his claim. articles which featured personal details, private information around prince harry's life including details around his relationship with his brother, the prince of wales, arguments, conversations, details around his relationship with former girlfriend chelsea davey and it goes on around the military training. now they claim these bits of information were obtained by

legal means. namely, through phone hacking, through the interception of prince harry's voice mails and also through the use of private investigators. now prince harry has been selected as among four people to provide evidence over the coming days. we'll take three days, of course. but there, are as you said, more than 100 claimants in this case including notable figures, actors, sports celebrities and other high profile figures taking part in this case. now as we understand it, prince harry has already arrived in london. he is not believed to be present today at this court hearing behind me. but he is expected to give evidence of the high court tomorrow. the mirror group newspapers maintains they did not do anything in regards to wrongdoing. they say the news editors were not aware of any wrongdoing at the time. this, of course, this dates back to 1991 and 2011. they also claim some of the lawsuits have just come in simply too late. prince harry, of course, for him, this is a hugely personal,

deeply important matter. he has been very vocal around his hopes to reform media practices. he spoke openly about the impact the media has had on his life and of that his wife and, of course, his mother princess diana. >> extremely personal for him. thank you for the reporting. we appreciate it. happening today in colorado, women set to hold a it is in at the state's capitol to demand a total ban on guns. two of those women leading this are going to join us next. also, u.s. fighter jets scrambling to reach a private plane whose pilot is unresponsive. that sent off a sonic boom around the nation's capitol. we have new details on what happened inside that plane. ♪fall into me and i'll catch you darling♪ ♪we'll dance in the street♪ ♪ my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting key indicators

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the state's capital in denver to demand action. they don't just want to limit guns, they are calling for a ban in the state, a complete ban of guns. the organization is called and the event is called here for the kids. and they say they're going to hold a sit-in, quote, until governor jared polish science an executive order to ban guns and implement a statewide buyback program. i should note, this group is founded by black indigenous women of color, and quote, respectfully asks white women to put their bodies on the ground, because, quote, historically, white women are the least likely to be brutalized by police. joining us now are two moms, laura denver, actress lake bell, and sam shocker. ladies, mothers, activists using your voice, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you for having us, poppy. >> lake, make the case. why are you doing this?

>> i mean, i don't think you have to be a mother to see the logic in prioritizing children's lives over gun ownership. it's, you know, it's sobering and it's painful to think that we've become sort of numb to even how grossly out of control the problem is. and, you know, i was just saying to sam that i just feel like i'm so encouraged by how many grassroots organizations have shown up today, but then additionally, people who don't have children, you don't really need children to understand that guns being the number one killer of children in this country is something -- is a message and is a reality to fight for. >> it's a national crises. >> we're in an emergency. >> we are in a national emergency, poppy. and for anyone that doesn't believe that, you're conditioned and you're numb to what's

happening. >> i also think it's not really, it's not partisan, you know, children being murdered in their schools or having teens kind of take, you know, take a wrong turn on a driveway or knock on someone's door and getting gunned down is unacceptable. >> it's unacceptable. >> i don't think that's -- i think that's just sort of sensible. >> and i will say, speaking of sensible and it being nonpartisan, when i canvassed for this event here in colorado, i ran into people from all walks of the aisle, from all walks of life, and every single one of them, as soon as you bring up whether they're republican or democrat, as soon as you bring up, guns are the number one killer of kids and teens, you will start to hear stories, yes, my nephew lost his life to suicide via firearm, or, yes, my daughter was at columbine, or, yes, my child was right outside of the aurora school shooting. so even when our children survive these traumatic events, you still have to realize, everyone talks about mental health, of course, mental health is engrained in this.

if we're worried about mental health, can you imagine the trauma and the ptsd that this is causing from lockdown drills. to everything surrounding gun violence. to our youth right now. to adults right now. if mental illness is an issue right now, imagine what it will be in five years, one year, ten years. we have to act now. the urgency is now. >> male -- you think about your children going to school and having to do an active shooter lockdown. i mean, think about that mental toll. i know you as a parent do. >> think about it every day, yes. >> yeah, you think about it every day, and so do most americans. >> so i thought it was interesting, the response -- look, you know you don't have to tell you, this runs into all sorts of issues in the courts, the second amendment, how the supreme court has ruled would make this unconstitutional at this point. that's just a point of fact. but i thought it was interesting that governor polish's staff in response to this that would not

issue an unconstitutional order that would be struck down in the court simply to make public relation statements. he'll continue to focus on real solutions and he has done a number of things on guns in the state. he raised the age to buy a firearm to 21. established a minimum waiting period. expanded the state's red flag laws. so for you, is this about more than just bumping up against this shall in the courts. this is about a broader message, no? >> yes, we need to shape a new social norm. it's there, a lot of people are afraid to say the quiet parts out loud, that more guns equal more death. we are so engrained in gun culture in this culture, it's hard to say that and acknowledge it out loud. number one, pushing this social norm that's already existed within our country, right now, because 64% of americans, 64% of americans, according to "usa today," they want gun reform. that's more important to them than preserving the rights of

guns. so at the end of the day, is it unconstitutional? yes, but so is slavery. we abolished slavery. there are many things about the constitution that can change. amendments, it is meant to change. jump in, please, lake. >> i don't think you have to be a constitutional scholar to understand that the constitution is a living document. it's up for amendment, it's up for evolution, that's our privilege as humans to evolve. and, you know, i recognize that the second amendment is, you know, what's standing in the way of this being more of a national conversation. but i also, you know, we are -- this is a movement led by black, brown, and indigenous women, as you said earlier. and ostensibly, they have, you know, given us the playbook, the abolitionist playbook when we talk about, you know, amendments that changed the course of our history. >> the civil rights movement. >> so i think, in thinking of

that, you know, i think you have to be, you have to think big. you have to think in terms of, you know, big picture and making a big swing. and one of our -- one of the leadership here, she says, we haven't lost our minds. we've lost our imaginations. and i think that that has been very much a north store. >> i was really struck reading her, when she said that, and the fact that as you brought up the civil rights movement, the way this is being held is really modeled on the 1965 selma to montgomery marches. i wish we had more time, but i think you guys are going to be there for days, so please come back, lake, and sam, and join us. thanks very much. >> thank you for your support. we appreciate it. thank you. >> "cnn this morning" continues right now. good morning, everyone. it is the top of the hour.