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new details about what fighter pilots did to get the attention of an unresponsive pilot for his private jet crashed in virginia. new information just in about when the trouble began. >> we begin with exclusive new reporting on a previously unreported episode in the mar-a-lago documents case. it comes as attorneys for the former president met today with justice department officials and signed signs increasingly indicate that special counsel jack smith's probe could be in its final stage. cnn's kaitlan collins is here with more. so, walk us through this exclusive reporting about mar-a-lago. >> it's a bit of a bizarre story, so bear with me. it was in last october, we are told that this maintenance worker at mar-a-lago drained april. and when they joined the pool, it caused a flood that flooded this room. we are told it has the computer servers, which store the surveillance footage on them. that's important because we know prosecutors have been looking at the surveillance footage from mar-a-lago. they have subpoenaed it several times. they have requested it. they have preserved records several times.

but we don't know is whether or not this was intentional flooding, or if it was genuinely a mistake. but the maintenance worker who was the one who trained the pool in october, which is the busy season at mar-a-lago, also i should note, is someone who has caught the eye of the prosecutors here. they have seized his phone. they have talked to him. he is someone who is seen on surveillance footage that they have moving boxes at mar-a-lago. we don't know exactly which boxes, but he was moving boxes with another trump aide. but when it comes to whether or not the role that he played here, they have a lot of questions about this because we are told that someone has testified to these prosecutors that nothing was damaged when this flood happened in this room where the servers were restored, they kept the surveillance footage. but they view it as suspicious,

and they've been asking witnesses about it, and raising questions about it, and of course, they are investigating whether or not there was any obstruction in their investigation. so, i think it is just an odd instance, but it still raises a lot of questions. >> certainly, it has, has all the video been given, handed over that was on the servers? do we know? >> we certainly know a lot of it has been given over, but they have been raising questions, we learned so much of what investigators are asking people. and they interviewed basically everyone, i am told, that they

had asked about gaps in surveillance footage. we know they've had questions for the security guys who were running, in charge of this surveillance footage. so there's questions among that nature of what exactly was turned over. trump's attorney said everything has been turned over, it's technically up to the trump organization that got these subpoenas. but i still think it raises a lot of questions, given what we've seen play out here. >> what do we know about the meeting with trump lawyers and the doj today? >> that was today, trump attorneys going into the justice department. i'm told jack smith, the special counsel investigating the classified documents and january 6th was in that meeting. they requested a meeting from the trump side with attorney

general merrick garland, they wrote him a letter. they allege there was some prosecutorial misconduct here. they didn't really say what, it was pretty broad strokes. we don't obviously know typically before someone is indicted, their attorneys would like to meet with them. that's not what we're told was the constant in this meeting today. i think it was raising questions about the special counsel's investigation. they certainly had some broad complaints, nothing really specific, about how this has been handled. but they were inside the justice department for about 90 minutes today. i think with most telling is what trump was saying after because he was posting, why should he be charged when no other president has been charged?

we don't know they told him he was going to be charged with anything, but he was certainly referencing. >> i know you're gonna be anchoring the former u.s. ambassador john bolton on the program, also the trump administration, we're watching that. right now, to get a better sense of what goes on in these meetings that attorneys have with prosecutors, as well as what goes into the ultimate decision on indictments, i'm joined by cnn senior law enforcement analyst, former fbi andrew mccabe. what likely happens in a meeting like this between trump 's attorneys and doj officials? >> sure, so, anderson, it's good to also know that avoiding getting your client indicted is every defense attorney's first and biggest goal. so, the last ditch effort to try to avoid an indictment is usually a meeting along these lines. the defense attorneys request to come in, and basically

explain to the doj why an indictment would be a bad idea. it's a bit of a hail mary pass. like you see at the end of a football game, one last-ditch effort to avoid disaster. what happens is the attorneys come in, and they say, you know, they will make an argument that the case is weak, that it should not go forward. they have compelling evidence, innocence. and then they will usually argue some level of it would be unfair to go forward against their client if justice we are to do so. you typically don't hear anything said on the other side of the table. doj will usually listen to the presentation, give the attorneys all the time they requested, and at the end of the presentation, they will say thank you very much for coming, we will give you a call if we have anything to tell you. it is a long shot strategy. it's worth the effort if you are a defense attorney, but it's certainly not worth spending your hopes on. >> so, we heard that the former president's attorneys are planning prosecutorial misconduct. it may not be that they have some smoking gun, they have some unheard of evidence. this may just be a last ditch effort to do whatever they can. >> yeah, i think it's highly unlikely that they have significant evidence of misconduct, simply because so many elements of this

investigation have been ferociously litigated between the two sides. so, we've had a lot of judicial intervention and oversight already in this investigation. we had, of course, a search warrant that took place. justice went back in front of the judge and requested sanctions against trump attorneys. they've gone in and pursued an effort to pierce the attorney-client privilege, to get evidence from trump's attorney, evan corcoran. so, there's been a lot of judicial events that it would seem that there was actual misconduct that has come up. but my suspicion here, anderson, is that trump's attorneys know, the only way to get an attorney general to really weigh in and move or stop a special counsel has to be on finding of misconduct. or do the special counsel regulations. that's really the only way you

can turn off and attorney general can turn off the special counsel effort, if they claim that the special counsel engaged in misconduct, they're gonna essentially fire him, but they have to report that to congress. so that is a big ask, let's literally swing for defenses. >> based on your experience, and what you see publicly, do you believe jack smith is near the end of his investigation? >> i do, i do. i think it can come very quickly. these meetings with defense attorneys trying to basically plead their case before it's indicted, they usually come at the very, very and, right before the prosecutor goes before the grand jury and ask them to indict that case. so, i think we could see that happen, really, anytime now, and certainly within the next few weeks. we've also seen all the major witnesses that we are aware of, most of them anyway. we know they've already been in front of that grand jury. we already understand there's a lot of evidence they have to work here, just from the things

that have been publicly reported, they likely have much more than that. so, i think it's reasonable to expect that this thing is in its final stages on the investigative site. >> what do you get from kaitlan collins reporting about the mar-a-lago pool flood, raising suspicions among prosecutors? >> yeah, that's a really weird one. it certainly indicate, it gives you an indication of the high degree of suspicion that, you know, each side has of the other, certainly doj is investigating obstruction here. we know that from the search warrant application. so, they're gonna look at every possible act as a possible, you know, every act as a possible element of obstruction. in this case, with the witnesses already saying that a flood didn't really damage the computers, it's hard to say, until you hear that the trump team is actually claiming that they cannot produce videos requested under the subpoenas because the material was

damaged underwater, it's hard to say that they're actually using that as some sort of -- >> what kind of obstruction with that look like, from a legal standpoint? >> so, obstruction, you know, in order to charge someone with obstruction, you have to be able to prove that they intended to obstruct an official proceeding, right? so, the accidental flooding of a room with computers in it without more evidence of actual intent to stop or obstruct a proceeding, in this case the investigation, wouldn't probably rise to the level of a chargeable offense. however, conversations wit h your lawyer, or lying to your lawyer about where the docks

are, and what's available to be searched, that's also allegedly taking place in this case, that could very well be, in the up as a chargeable offense. >> all right, andrew mccabe, appreciate it, thank you. this is happening in a political vacuum, just the opposite, which is why we get simpler who commentator david urban with us. he's both republican strategist, former trump campaign advisor. david, good to see you. kaitlan collins touched a moment ago the former president, putting out a statement on truth social today, saying in part how can doj possibly charge me, who did nothing wrong when no other president was charged, and then wrote about president biden, president clinton, and invoked clinton's emails. he ended with the greatest witch hunt of all-time. do you think he's worried about this?

>> sure. anderson, i believe the president is worried about it, otherwise he wouldn't be commenting. and he is rightfully worried about it. i think when you see there, what you've heard, we've heard in a town hall when caitlin asked about the president, say, look, i have the right, i can declassify things just by saying they are declassified. i think you can hear that repeated over and over again, and you and i sat next to each other on that day, when the president was taken into custody in new york city, and, you know, i think the bigger question is, this isn't happening in a political vacuum. what does it all mean? i'm not so sure that it means anything, right? to the core diorite trump supporters, i think you're gonna see this as more, you know, prosecution and persecution of their candidate during, you know, he's the leader of the republican primary right now. and they're trying to take him out. this is the best means they can. >> the former president's primary opponents, the republicans, haven't really attacked him for the multiple investigations he's facing. in fact, as i've talked about, many defended him since the stormy daniels hush money case in new york. do you think that could change, possible indictment of the classified documents case? i mean, is there -- if you were advising, you know, some of these candidates, does it make sense for them to raise it now? >> so, i think we're gonna have to wait and see what comes out in the details, right? obviously, it depends on what is in the indictment, how serious of a nature it is. look, you can argue that any obstructio, ou' it.but if s details that t and hav>> yo c obv w cbut do changes somethi>> i polmo this ind we will see what happens. but t kthto >> da yothank you. next, the stat the lso, what i just reveth plane crash thafour we answer the what happened on board the

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pence is officially getting in, filing paperwork with the federal election commission ahead of a formal announcement at wednesdays cnn town hall. also expected to declare this week, former new jersey governor chris christie, and south carolina senator tim scott, himself a public and hopeful. he made headlines for contentious moment today on the view. here's some of it which comes several weeks after co-host joy bay her, and the goldberg comments suggesting this guy does not understand or acknowledge systemic racism. senator scott also got booed when talking about candidate ron desantis and his battle with disney. >> one of the reasons why i'm on the show is because of the comments that were made on this show that the only way for a young african american kid to be successful in this country is to be the exception and not the rule. that is a dangerous offensive disgusting message to send to our young people today, that the only way to succeed is by being the exception. i think disney had been in a combat zone for a number of months over what i thought was the right issue as it relates to our young kids and what they are being indoctrinated with. i thought he started off on the right foot on that issue. [laughter] >> no, no, not here, i'm sorry sir. do not boo. this is their view. we accept, we don't have to believe everything people safe, but you cannot boo people here, please. you cannot do it. >> it's a day at the presidential race, joining us cnn commentator, bakari sellers, also mark mckinnon, columnist for the daily beast, and served as a campaign media adviser to former president george w.

bush. bakari, you're a bit of senator scott's perspective there, what do you make of it? >> i think it was actually a good political strategy to go to the belly of the beast. i think that senator scott uses, and i love senator scott, we are friends. i would like to believe that. i served with him for four years in the south carolina legislative body. and as i like to say, senator scott [laughter] i'd give him a kidney, but i just never vote for him. i think today was a good day to show you how nimble he is. i think he has a hard time because he is an amazing story. he believes his story to be the story of america. however, he himself acknowledges that he is here because he's a miracle. that in itself means that there is some basic tenants of

systemic racism in the country. he refuses to acknowledge it. and i think that -- >> is that a political thing do you think? or is that an actual belief? >> that's a good question, anderson. i think it's a combination of both. i think for him, it may be a belief, i think for nikki haley, it's probably more of a calculation. regardless of whatever the foundation for that belief is, i think that is dangerous. i think when you acknowledge yourself to be, i am here because i'm an exception, i am here because i'm a miracle in this country, then that in and of itself means that there are some issues that hold other people who look like you back. >> mark, what is it a lame for a tim scott or nikki haley to become president? is it to try to stay in the good graces graces of trump, or is it the base, established republicans, independents? >> i think the lame is the one you appeal the republicans who want a normal republican party again. and they want to put trump in

the rearview mirror. now, first of all, i think nikki haley is a very good campaign, or did a great job on your town hall, showed her experience, showed her on fallibility. and she showed she is a normal republican, a bit of a throwback. is that gonna appeal to trump base voters? probably not. but there is room for others in this race, and tim scott, by the way, has a lot of potential in iowa. and i will as we know can completely shake up this race. and what people should be focusing on is not the national polls, but what's happening in iowa. and tim scott has got a very sunny reagan george bush compassionate conservative kind of message. and by the way, the thing i like about him that is staring debate on the issue that bakari was talking about, or talked about during this election. but what i don't like what he's doing is that contrary to desantis and trump who want to claim that they are victims and that their voters are victims on everything, tim scott is saying i'm not a victim, and i like that. i think a lot of americans like that. they like that kind of reagan, you know, you can be anything in this country now, again,

that's a debate we can have whether or not it's fair to everybody. but it's a good message, and it appeals to, you know, all time republicans, and people from iowa rock like me, is that enough? i don't know. but it could be enough to break through iowa. >> bakari, with the exception of governor desantis, the former president has been relatively hands off, and complementary with tim scott, nikki haley, clearly he sees it as a benefit to have as many people as possible in this race. >> the problem that most americans don't realize or most republicans don't realize is that it's a structural problem within the republican party. if they didn't go back and change the structure in their primaries, so basically when somebody wins the primary, even if they win it with 25 or 30% of the vote, they get all of those delegates to be the next nominee for president. so, the more people who are in

the race, the more benefits donald trump. i would also say that there is no benefit to donald trump for going after somebody as mark said, with that disposition of somebody like tim scott. people like tim scott. he's genuinely, you feel like although you may disagree with him, he is in it because he believes in what abraham lincoln called the better angels of our nature. it's very difficult to go after him. now, i think when he has people come in the race like mike pence, who i believe is getting in the race soon, or somebody like chris christie, he won't have a choice because they're gonna be throwing punches at him. i also, david axelrod said it last night, and i agree with him, i don't think that donald trump is going to engage much. i don't think he's gonna debate much. i think it would be silly for him too because he's that far ahead.

and if donald trump wins, i would love to hear what mark says. but if trump wins iowa, the rest of this is academic. he will be the nominee. >> mark, do you think it makes any sense for trump to debate or to engage? >> well, listen, i think it makes sense for him to debate because he dominates every debate that he's in, and just crushes everybody. we saw that in 2016. i don't think he's going to engage with the other candidates. i mean, it only elevates them when he does that.

but i think cristiano knew has the right message today, and what he said, first of all, he's gonna have more impact on this race by getting out and staying in. new hampshire now is in play, and like iowa, this race can be completely, as a guy who lost to john mccain 19 points, coming first place to george w. bush in south carolina, turning around in like a 13-point changeover of course within 24 hours. so, this point is the one that's right, which is, the more people run, the more it helps trump. so people excellent getting now, the last thing they want is trump to emerge as the nominee. >> and clearly, bakari, chris christie is gearing up for confrontation based on his public comments. desantis is increasingly getting into it. do you think it's necessary -- do you think that is wise so

soon? >> i'm not a conspiracy theorist, but i do have a conspiracy theory. i think that there were some donors -- >> by the way, every conspiracy theorist says they're not a conspiracy theorist -- >> the world is flat. i don't know. i think people got together and said, chris christie, go out and do that to donald trump, which he did to marco rubio. i, mean kamikaze christie is coming in with one mission. there is no way that chris christie believes he can be president of the united states. i just do not -- i think he has a better grasp on reality. i think he has one job, one task, and that is to take -- >> by the way, just to point out, i think dramatically you are wrong. i think he certainly believes he could do the job, just is just a matter of he could get elected. elected. america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars in new technologies

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ukraine has cultivated sabotage agents inside russia, and is giving them drones to stage attacks, including these sources believe, that attacked by two drones that targeted the kremlin last month. natasha bertrand joins us now with that story. so what do we know about the sabotage cells? >> anderson taking a step back for a second, there has been a steady drumbeat inside russia of these attacks over the last year, targets, targeting oil depots, railways, other facilities that are useful for the russians for the war effort in ukraine. and now, we are learning that those mysterious attacks may have been carried out by these sabotage cells that ukraine has actually cultivated inside russia over the last several months, and even year, ever since the war began. we are learning that u.s. officials and western officials believe that these are a mix of pro ukrainian sympathizers, as well as agents who are pretty well trained in this kind of warfare, and that u.s. officials actually believe that that attack, that drone attack on the kremlin that happened last month, with those two drones that hit the kremlin senate palace, that was actually carried out.

u.s. officials believe by those pro ukrainian operators inside russia. we are also learning that they are getting drones from ukraine. it's unclear how the ukrainians are actually getting them into russia, but we do know they have a pretty well established drone manufacturing industry inside of russia, near and they're somehow smuggling them u.s. officials believe into russia. we did ask ukraine for comments, and we got a pretty colorful response on ukraine security services, who said we will comment on instances only after our victory, cotton has been burning, is burning, and will continue burning. and cotton is a ukrainian slang term for explosions in russian territory, anderson. >> i just wanna make sure, you said that ukraine has a drone making facility inside russia. you may you meant inside ukraine?

bringing the drones into russia, you are saying. >> yes, they have a pretty well established joan manufacturing industry inside ukraine that has really ramped up over the last several months and years, since russia invaded. and the drones have been useful for them, obviously. >> how much influence over these individuals or grooves inside russia does ukraine have? do you know. i mean, are they just giving material, aid, or do they have operational control, do we know? >> the officials we spoke to do believe that elements within ukraine's intelligence community do have some element of control over these assets. and it's unclear how much of these operations, ukrainian president zelenskyy knows about because we are told he doesn't actually require a sign off on every one of these operations. but according to documents, that were leaked to the pentagon on line and that big league earlier this year, president zelenskyy himself has suggested to aids striking inside russia, and his military intelligence chief has proposed

some of the most brazen plans that the u.s. intelligence community has seen to date for attacks deep inside russian territory. anderson? >> fascinating. natasha bertrand, appreciate it. thank you. cnn exclusive interview general mark milley, chairman of the joint chief of staff, conducting in france, as he joins allies celebrating the 79th anniversary. oren liebermann is following generally, and he joins us now. what did the general tell you about the war in ukraine and the security challenges the u. s. is facing? >> anderson, this is a wide-ranging interview on ukraine, on china, on the challenges facing the defense department. of course as we stand here ready to celebrate and commemorate the d-day invasion that liberated europe, through a counteroffensive of its own here, we're waiting for another counteroffensive. and because of that, a lot of hope is still on ukraine. take a listen. >> there you go. >> general mark milley in normandy, marking the beginning of the largest counter offensive in modern european history, as the world waits for another counter offensive in ukraine. >> i think ukraine are very well prepared, as you know very well, the u.s. and other allied countries in europe are really around the world, providing training and ammunition and advice, intelligence, et cetera to the ukrainian supporting them. it's an existential threat for the survival of ukraine, and it has a greater meaning to the rest of the world. >> he also spoke about the chinese conflict, just days

after a chinese warship caught off a u.s. navy vessel in the taiwan straight, at a distance dangerously close. >> both countries, significant powers, great powers if you wanna call them that in the world today. they both have a significant amounts of nuclear weapons, they've got large military capabilities. so, conflict between great powers, arguably, we are in a competition, arguably, we are in confrontation. but we're not yet in conflict. >> milley says communication with beijing's key to avoid conflict. >> i personally don't think that war between china and the u.s. is inevitable. i don't think it's imminent. but it needs to stay in the status of competition. in order to do that, countries have to talk to each other, and in times of crisis, it's necessary to de-escalate. >> but at a defense conference in singapore last week, defense secretary lloyd austin only shook hands with his chinese

counterpart, who refused a formal meeting. milley has not spoken to his counterpart in nearly eight months. >> i haven't had an opportunity to talk to my counterpart. i talked to my previous counterpart. we sent out messages, back and forth, there are some complications going back and forth. but we would like to have an opportunity to talk, and i think they would like to have an opportunity to talk. >> back in washington, milley says he spoke with senator tommy tuberville over a one-man blockade in the nomination of more than 200 general officers, a number that could trickle by the end of summer, and defect military readiness. >> it's a large number, and then, you figure that each one is to replace somebody else, and so, you multiply it by. three so, you're really looking at potentially, between 2000, 3000 officers impacted. and most of them are married, so now you're looking at about another 4000 family members. >> it's gonna be a backup of

the whole system, it sounds like. >> it will be a backup of the whole system. it is becoming that. >> the chairman of joint chiefs has repeatedly defended the governor that department against accusations of being too woke, an issue he says is exaggerated. >> we're all about ready, and we're all about 20 and the future, and i think the accusations are grossly over exaggerated. >> milley has said in the past that from a military standpoint -- sorry, it would be a very difficult task to push russian forces out of all the parts of ukraine that they currently occupy. has that assessment changed at all? >> no, i don't think. so i think he is well aware of how difficult that counteroffensive will be. and that's why he was very careful there in his prediction of how this will play out. we certainly probed a bit on that, and we said are they ready, are they prepared, and he said there as prepared as they will be that the u.s. and other countries have provided a

equipment. but even as this process has played out, even as this war has worn down the russian armed forces, their armor, their infantry, there is also giving russian the time to prepare for their own defense. we've been talking about the counter offensive now for months, so that has been time. even as russia is defending the smaller attacks, they have to prepare for a larger counteroffensive. so, milley is well aware that when this is launched in earnest and in scale, it will be a very difficult operation. and that, anderson, is why he is so cautious, not wanting to make a prediction and fully aware that it's so much on the battlefield, the chances, the probabilities, and different possible outcomes. so, he wants to be very careful in that. so thank you. we hope you like your work. (♪ ♪)

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investigating the crash, -- has more. >> a source else tell cnn, they have 16 pilots that scrambled to intercept the private cessna, observe the pilot as they flew next to him as unresponsive, and slumped over in his seat. the ntsb is now on site in central virginia, going through what's left of the wreckage, with another source saying investigators are now most interested in hypoxia, lack of oxygen, as a possible cause of the attack. the twin engine jet went hundreds of miles off course, including passing over the d. c. area into restricted airspace. investigators described highly fragmented wreckage in very mountainous terrain. >> the engines, the water conditions, pilot

qualifications, the maintenance records, all aspects will be of course, items that we routinely look at. >> the flight path shows a takeoff in tennessee, at its destination at new york's long island, the plane turns, but doesn't land. instead, it keeps flying at 40,000 feet, right into highly restricted airspace near washington d. c.. the capital briefly placed on an elevated alert, and air national guard pilots scrambled to intercept. causing a sonic boom heard around the beltway. but norad says the pilots got no response to fly by's, players, or radio calls. >> [inaudible] [inaudible] authorities say the plane was not shot down, but if it appeared to be a threat. >> they do have the ability to shoot down a civilian aircraft, if that is required. >> the plane was tracked until it crashed into the mountains of central virginia. there were four people on board, including the pilot and the plane owner's daughter, granddaughter, and her nanny, according to the new york times.

how might a lack of oxygen cause a crash? >> some sort of de pressurization is likely, rapid or maybe slow, which caused the pilot to be incapacitated, and also render the passengers unconscious. >> first responders telling cnn there were no survivors, just a crater and small debris fragments, and signs of human remains. >> very hard to get to, a lot of overgrowth and they had areas where they actually had to get on their hands and knees and crawl to get under the brush to get into it. >> it's going to be very difficult to recover, certainly any -- or any important wreckage information. and for the victims on the plane who won't be able to tell whether they had any signs of oxygen deprivation. >> and we have this just into cnn tonight, the first time are getting actual names of the people on board that plane. the family who owns the -- citation that crashed into the mountain, has told the washington post that their daughter, her name is adina's aryan, and their granddaughter

areas aryan, were among the three passengers killed. this family, the rumbles, john -- and rumble, talk to the washington post. and the identify the pilot, his name as being jeff haffner. so you've got three of the names of the four people who died in the crash. adina zirin, her daughter areas aryan, and the pilot jeff hefner, these names just coming into cnn with the families talking to the washington post tonight, anderson. >> or i appreciate it. and a major development in a case -- disappearance of the american teenager natalie holiday. -- you're in van der sloot, the prime suspect in her 2005 disappearance, is scheduled to be transferred temporarily to u.s. custody thursday to face extortion and fraud charges. now, cnn has obtained exclusive video van der sloot in his proving imprison -- has the story. >> [inaudible] you are in van der sloot begins his long journey from peru to the united states, in the early morning hours of saturday. this exclusive video show shows van der sloot taken l of his

cell in produce maximum security prison dressed joran to leave. with two shopping bags of personal belongings. shackles around his ankles and handcuffs around his wrists did not overshadow his multi colored fleece sweater coat, with a lions face on the front and back. peru's prison system allows inmates to wear their own clothing. van der sloot is being transferred to the united states under the extradition she treated with peru to face extortion and wire fraud charges in relation to the 2000 van der sloot five disappearance of natalee holloway. the alabama teenager vanished on a school trip in aruba nearly two decades ago. van der sloot, one of the last people to see her alive, was twice detained in connection with her disappearance. >> i want him to tell the truth. he knows exactly what happened, he knows what where when who why and how.

he knows the answers! >> accompanied by four guards, next stop, present medical testing before leaving. for one cup taking off, so blood pressure can be taken. we. with a doctor next listening carefully to his heart. everything is ready for him to be handed over, we have him safe, which is what the u.s. authority requested, that he would be in good health. that is how we will keep him until the eight, we guarante e that. now, time for the partner, paperwork signed in the pridgen red resist ration office. his rainbow colored bracelet alongside the cuffs, which were then put behind his bat. with the van der sloot be loaded in the security area of a prison band, for the first leg of the journey. now, almost exactly 18 years later, her perpetrator, you are

in van der sloot, has been extradited to birmingham to answer for his crimes. under the cover of darkness arrives to a lima prison -- one step closer to american van der sloot justice >> and jean casarez joins us now. what are the next steps for him? >> well it's all planned out, what we've been told is that indoor interpol will go into the lima prison, they will take him in their custody, that's the international criminal justice organization. they will transport him to the lima airport, where the fbi will be standing by with a plane. and that will transport him to the united states. >> jean casarez, appreciate it. up next, in a lighter affair. take a look at these, they look like ski goggles, maria hendon joins us to explain why they are getting so much more attention. next . ters the room. phil: excuse me? hillary: that wasn't me. narrator: said hillary, who's only taken 347 steps today. hillary: i cycled here. narrator: speaking of cycles, mary's period is due to start in three days.

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you. you know we were talking on break about the virtual reality, and i didn't seem to know very much about it. and the reason i did know very much about it is because that was just -- a cover for what this segment actually was. it turns out that this weekend was this very special birthday, >> this is really a segment on my birthday. three days ago >> while it was two days ago. it was saturday. we don't work on saturdays. and i even was able to get a little gift for you, that we're going to be bringing out. kevin will bring it for us. but before that cake actually comes out, as kevin is comparing it, what i want to know is a few things about, as you're turning older at this point. so, number one, i want to know that some things are gonna grow longer on. you >> excuse me?

>> yes. your ears are going to become longer. your nose is going to become longer. but will we also know is that your height is going to become shorter. so you're going to shrink, but you're also going to have longer years. >> i'm glad we brought a data scientist to tell me all of these great things that are gonna happen. >> but i do have one good piece of news for you, and you know, there is some question as, when is old old? >> i asked myself that. i feel like i've cross the rubicon.

i turned 56 on saturday. >> yes, you turned 56 on saturday. so i wanted to determine whether or not 56 was old. so i turned to the public, and there was a pull a few years ago that ask how old is old. and as it turns out, old is not happen until you reach your 70s. >> really? >> yes! well >> okay. >> 73, so >> that's based on research? >> this is based on what public perception. and so. oh, oh my god -- it's a fudgy the whale, and we've been talking about >> for those who don't know, it's a carved -- which is legendary as a kid. harry and i broke both urban new york, although i'm much older. >> you're not that much older. >> -- one and what does it say on the cape >> a whale of a cape, a whale of that. >> there you go! we were gonna sing happy birthday, but we'll get to that in a second. i just want to also note some other celebrities, who in fact are your age at this particular

point. okay, so we've got a few of them. we've got, look at that, we've got mike tyson. so mike tyson, i feel like he can still fight i feel like you could fight. >> i can't fight. >> how about gordon ramsey? >> sure, okay. i'm not familiar with his uvalda, but he is a chef who yells at people. >> that's exactly, right you are not a chef, and you not yell at people. but maybe that somebody you can work. >> adam sandler very talented. >> adam sailor, a very funny guy. and andy cohen turned 55 on june 2nd. >> so folks can, we all join together we're going to do it. we are absolutely going to do it. >> how much time left we have before. >> happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you. nice try, happy birthday dear anderson, happy birth day to you. >> is the segment on, are we good? >> sure, think we got you got. enough >> all right thanks. [applause] [applause] . all right, all right thanks very much. cnn prime time with kaitlan collins is next. we're gonna have a good break, we'll be right back. 's all this? hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with priceline you could actually take that trip for less than all this.

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