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>> good evening, tonight on ac 360, it's not just washington now, it's also miami. a second grand jury into mar-a-lago documents probe. what it says about the investigation and trials to come? also the new word on mark meadows, the white house chief of staff of the president on january six has gone before a grand jury. a dam in ukraine is breached at a key point in the war and accusations about who did it. and a retired fbi spy catcher. remember, the spy he caught, the notorious robert hanson, who sold secrets to moscow and more for more than two decades and died in prison. we begin tonight with a previously unknown second grand

jury in the documents case. the former trump chief of staff mark meadows has testified before a grand jury, unclear which one. also unclear, when he testified or which line of inquiry the special counsel is pursuing. documents for january 6th or perhaps both. here is kaitlan collins. what have you learned? >> a lot of questions about this, especially when it comes to the mark meadows investigation. the mark meadows testimony. we knew that he was going to testify, because they subpoenaed him. the trump team tried to fight it, citing executive privilege. they lost that. we knew it would happen but not when. we know that he has now testified. he's a key figure in both of the investigations, so that is notable here. >> and he was with the former president throughout the day on january six. >> with him on the day of january six and once the representative of the archives, which is at the center of the document investigation. he was on the phone that trump had with the georgia secretary of state, and now we know that

there is that audio recording of trump talking about classified documents and having them -- >> he also went down to georgia. >> he went down to georgia several times to broker meetings with officials there. but also the audio recording that we know that jack smith, the special counsel, has, because mark meadows's ghost writing a book, and his auto biographers were recording the conversation. >> and what is this grand jury in miami? >> when you hear that people go before the grand jury and documents case, it's always in washington. we have not seen activity since may, and now we know that there is a grand jury convened in florida in miami, where witnesses are going for them when it comes to the documents case. it has raised a lot of questions, confusion, even in trump's world, about what exactly the second grand jury is doing, what is the purpose of the, whether or not charges, if they're brought, in miami or washington would make a difference. what we do know is that witnesses have already gone before the grand jury, multiple witnesses. another is going, tomorrow is continuing to progress. >> that miami won, they are

still having witnesses? >> it appears that they convened and the last several weeks. it's not clear when exactly, but they're hearing from a witnessed a mauro, we are told. >> kaitlan, stay with us. i want to bring in former federal prosecutor elie honig, also john dean, who served as richard nixon's white house counsel during the watergate. elie, what do you make at the miami grand jury? >> it could be a couple of things. first of all, it could be a convenience that prosecutors are expanding as a -- if there are witnesses who are unwilling or unable to come up to d. c., what you do is you take their testimony in front of a federal grand jury in florida, and then you can read the testimony to the grand jury in d. c.. option b, it could be that there is some piece of the case that is only chargeable in florida. for example, if they are looking at potentially charging someone who worked at mar-a-lago, that person would have no connection to whatever happened in d.c., so it would have to charge that case in florida. and then option c, the big one is that they could be considering charging the big case potentially against donald trump in florida, rather than washington d. c..

prosecutors have a lot of discretion -- >> why would they do that? >> so the role of a prosecutor is that you get to choose what federal district you could to bring your case in. but asked to be a federal district for some portion of the crime occurred. here, you can see how the crime occurred in florida. the document retention and mishandling crime and the obstruction crime. the other argument is d. c.. well, he took the documents from d. c.. that would be the scene at the crime. but the counter argument to that is if the facts are, and kaitlan will probably know this, if he took the documents out of there and sent them to mar-a-lago before noon on january 20th, while still president, that is not going to be a crime. it does not become a crime until he uses the power of the presidency, and then he illegally has those documents. if that is the case, then the whole crime happened in florida, not in d. c., and he can't charge in d. c.. >> also, if the question that case is not just the taking but

the keeping at the documents and obstruction factor of that. the other question i have about it though is that the other aides have testified and come to washington to testify before the grand jury, including the body man at the white house, or is valet at the white house. he is now trump's buddy man. he has gone and testified. he said that he did not move any boxes. when he went back, it was clear that prosecutors had a surveillance footage of him moving boxes. he changed his testimony and went dark. >> john dean, it's tough to overstate mark meadows importance in the trump white house and is closeness to trump on january six. how big of a deal is that he testified to the grand jury? again, we don't know when this was or obviously what he said. >> it's a big deal because he has a remarkably important witness. we don't know, anderson, whether or not he has personal liability or exposure for any of his activities for the trump white house, or if he has some sort of cooperation deal. i do know he has one of the

better attorneys in the whole picture and one of the more able attorneys in washington, who has two decades with the department of justice, including deputy attorney general. this is somebody who can guide him through the process and possibly get him through with minimal problems. so this is a breaking story still but a very important one. >> kaitlan, is it clear to you how the former presidents team feels about mark meadows? do they know where he stands or what he is doing? >> my sense from my reporting is that they don't talk to him that much. it's not totally clear to me about what trump thinks about it. but trump's legal team is certainly worried about it, because he's essential to like three at these investigations, maybe for, and as gun very quiet. they have not been speaking to him. john mentioned the attorney there, last i spoke, they weren't speaking to the attorney either. these attorneys frequently speak in these investigations. so i think that has raised a

lot of questions on what he is saying to the government. >> elie, if he had a deal, we would know about it? when would we know about? >> we will certainly know about it either the reporting or when he testifies in court. if you give me a choice is a prosecutor, any one witness in the whole case that i could have a guaranteed full and truthful testimony, i would choose mark meadows. as kaitlan said, he's right, he's the chief in staff inward and indeed. he was by trump's side at kyiv moments before and during january six. remember, he's the one where republican members of congress, his own members of his family texting him as a january six have been saying that you had to get the president to do something. he's a key contact with the archives and a crucial player, and his testimony could be invaluable. >> could he plead the fifth? >> there are a couple of ways that mark meadows could testify. he could go in there, testify and hope for the best. that could be risky. he has potential criminal exposure. i think the most likely scenario is that his lawyers say he will take the fifth. and then as a prosecutor, if

you want the testimony, immunized. meaning, we will not use your testimony against you, we need that so we can't prosecute you, now you have to testify. >> john, how likely do you think it is at this point that they actually will seek an indictment of the former president? >> i think it is highly likely. i think all the signs point that way. the evidence is certainly overwhelming. what i am curious about is whether they will offer him a deal in the documents case. that is the norm with high-level people who violate the law to get themselves in trouble with security clearances, but i don't know if even donald trump would take a deal if offered one. >> john dean, appreciate it, elie honig, caitlin, thank you so much. kaitlan will be back at the top of the hour for cnn prime time with more. joining me now, cnn political commentator, former republican illinois congressman and january six select committee member, adam kinzinger. congressman, i am wondering what your reaction is to this revelation of a florida grand jury is? >> yeah, it is all the possibilities. i am as confused as anyone. i think it is quite possible that maybe the d. c. grand jury is focused on things more

related to january six or whatever the d. c. connection is to the documents case. and they are resting, it seems like. they have not met recently in florida, maybe, again because according to the sixth amendment, you have to give somebody an opportunity to in their own area, particularly if the crime was only committed there. the one thing to i am hoping that it is not, in essence, a restart. it does not seem like that but, yeah, i think it is as confusing to me as anybody else. >> you are also on the january six committee, i am wondering what your thoughts were on mark meadows. we know that he has reportedly testified to a federal grand jury. we don't know when or exactly what he said -- or what it may have been. >> well, look, anderson, this is huge. i heard elie say earlier about text messages and everything else. let me say this and be clear, had we not gotten the first tranche of mark meadows text

messages on january six committee, it would have been much harder for us to get to the answers that we eventually got to. he turned over the initial tranche of text and then cooperated with the committee. but with in that unofficial tranche, we saw the text with the fox news host, text with members of congress and other actors that allowed us then to be able to connect the dots. heat was really the all-star on that committee in terms of the evidence provided. if he now goes in front of a grand jury and is fully cooperative, i got to tell you, the stuff we got from him will pay a lot in comparison to a truthful testimony by him in front of a grand jury. >> elie was a lounging here while you were talking. he is back with us. i want to ask you, elie, john dean mentioned the idea of a deal for the former president. what would that entail? >> there are a couple of things that that could be. that could mean that he took a guilty plea in exchange, he's testifying hoping to get a reduced sentence. that is their standard

cooperative the. they have to know that mark meadows actually committed a crime. the other option, the sort of less serious version about that was what i talked about before, a emitted the deal. we will give you a free pass, not make you plead guilty to a crime, but we will not use her testimony against the. and now you have to testify carefully. to the point that represented concert was making that is so important, meadows did cooperate with the testimony. he keeps all his picks, or is remarkable, and then he stopped cooperating with the committee, mid stream. he left a lot hanging out there. as adam correctly says, prosecutors will be able to get all that. >> congressman, when he stopped cooperating, how did that actually play out? does he just stop? does his lawyer say we are no longer cooperating? was there any explanation? >> no, basically, it began, as far as i remember on this, back and forth negotiations, and whether he will speak, and we went through a month and a half or two months. we know, by the way, a lot of these witnesses, that does not

work for us. putin later, let's try this state, and eventually, he just kind of want -- as we call it in the flying world. but we had a enough to start that. had we gotten everything, it would have been even more intense, but we were able to work on that for sure. >> congressman, politically, do you think any other former presidents rivals for the nomination will try to use these legal cases to attack him, or would that just strengthen and support? >> you know, i wish they would because this is important. it's important for our party. important for my party to share this from people running for president. i don't know. i think that they will talk around it, like they have so far. chris christie may go directly at him, and eventually, they start to smell blood in the water, everybody will go after them. until then, there will be top around it and say things like we have to look to the future, not the past anymore. >> adam kinzinger, appreciate it. elie honig, thanks as well. coming up, more breaking news. former new jersey governor chris christie, as kinzinger just mentioned, launched his presidential campaign today. that happened a short time ago in new hampshire.

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♪ >> more breaking news, former new jersey governor chris christie launched his primary -- campaign in -- new hampshire tonight and aimed

it -- the former president. >> a lonely, self consumed, -- is not a leader. well let me be clear, in case i have not been already. [laughter] the person i am talking about, who is obsessed with the mirror, we never admits a mistake, who never admits a fault. and who always find someone else, and something else to blame, for whatever goes wrong, but finds every reason to take credit for anything that goes right, is donald trump. and, if we don't have that conversation with you, we don't deserve to ask for your vote. . we don't deserve -- the mantle leadership, we don't deserve to have you think of us, as people worthy of leadership.

>> that's former governor christie tonight. he has famously had a bumpy history with the former president. he was sharply critical during the 2016 primaries, then dropped out, and re-entered the fold as a born-again trump supporter, then broke with him again after january 6th. here's a sampling of some of the tough words he's had for the former president in the 2016 race, and the run up to tonight. >> when he gets criticized, he can't take it. he is in his jammies in trump tower -- and phones in -- i'm happy -- even if he only does them in 140 characters or less. when you say that it is patriotic to suspend the constitution, if you believe the election is being stolen -- losing and losing and losing. and the fact of the matter is is the reason we are losing is because donald trump has put himself before everybody else.

>> the question now, and it's no longer academic, how will he turned that critique into primary? votes -- joining us tonight, van jones, former lieutenant governor jeff duncan, and cnn -- gloria borger. gloria, what to see it -- >> we always ask about these lanes. and i was talking to a senior adviser to christie, and i asked him that exact question. and he said chris's lane is going through trump. it is the only way someone can win. and as you saw today, what chris christie did was take him on -- front tillie, which quite frankly, the other candidates are not quite yet doing. in a way that chris christie is doing it. remember how he took on marco rubio in 2016? in that infamous debate, and kind of destroyed him? he may have destroyed marco rubio, but he also destroyed himself in the process, and i think that's a little bit of the danger here. because he's not really popular with the republican electorate at this point, so he has to

ingratiate himself to republicans, while taking on their favorite soldier. >> lieutenant governor, duncan, do you think he has a lane? >> yeah i certainly do. i mean what i heard tonight was somebody who wants to, win but is not afraid to lose. i think that's a dangerous combination for somebody like donald trump to have to face that type of music. i think chris christie needs to stick to the script, he was a two-time governor in a blue state. he's been a republican longer than donald trump ever has, i think he needs to stick to that script and continue to hammer. >> it's interesting van, because chris christie is pushed this notion that he is simply going to attack donald trump in the primary. he says he wouldn't run if he didn't believe he could actually win this thing. >> he's got the same chance of getting the republican nomination as he does of getting the democratic nomination. i mean, he has no support in that party, that couldn't even rival some of the people who are in the single digits. but, i think it's important four the country that he's doing. i think it is important for the country that somebody with his backbone and courage, does

challenge the president. it's been remarkable to me to see someone like donald trump, who lost the white house, who lost the midterms, basically be able to skate by. and even people want to be president are scared to say anything bad about him. so, i think it's good for the country, but i think the chance for -- the green party and any other party. zero. >> gloria, his relationship with the former president has obviously been a rollercoaster. does that give him a credibility problem with voters? >> yeah, i think it obviously does. i mean, we all remember that he was prepping donald trump for the debate, when he famously caught covid. after that debate, and he was supporting donald trump, and then he turned on him after january 6th. and his advisers said to me, look, we are gonna make that distinction. that after january 6th, chris christie could no longer support donald trump. but there is a flipside to this, anderson, which is, he's out there already saying i know donald trump better than most of you. so i can testify firsthand

about what kind of a human being he is, and what kind of a president he would be, if he is elected this next time. so it kind of works both ways, but he does have to get over that hump of, why were you so close to him, and now you hate him? >> do you think -- lieutenant governor -- do you think that, the race, they are too many candidates already? >> i'm one of those republicans, i said this earlier today, i'm excited to see qualified candidates show up. i think we've got to put our best foot forward. i'm just also one of those republicans that think the weight of gravity is going to catch up to donald trump. he's gonna have three or four indictments that are gonna be wrapped around all the way through this entire process. and i think we've got to have somebody who is qualified and ready to go. >> right, but even with three or four indictments, you've got a whole bunch of candidates who divide up the vote of those who don't want trump. and trump has a base of 30, 35%. isn't that inevitable? >> it's a math problem, but you're never gonna -- limit this field out of the gates for three or four candidates. so you're gonna have a whole slew of, them and you're gonna have to have the cream rise to the top. so guy like chris christie, i

think about tim scott and nikki haley or ron desantis. these are qualified candidates that could legitimately win the -- >> >> then jones, the problem -- >> if you look at what happened to the democratic party, bernie sanders was scared getting out -- and so there is at least an example in -- modern context of a party coming to its senses. i love bernie sanders. who doesn't? but the people in the party didn't feel like he could -- you the standard bearer. biden won, and then cory booker dropped out, everybody else dropped out. somebody's got to beat donald trump, in one of these races. and whoever that person's is good make a credible case. the rest of you guys, get out of my way, let me go one-on-one, but nobody's gonna drop out before somebody actually put a

win on the scoreboard. >> gloria, the first republican primary debate is in august. -- also, would he commit to the rnc rules of supporting the eventual republican nominee? >> i think that's a good question. and it's unanswered right now. they refused to answer that. i think chris christie, it's a high bar for him. he's not popular right now in the republican party, but he has to get on that debate stage. he has to be able to take on donald trump, if donald trump participates. remember, donald trump is saying, why would i show up if i've got such a large percentage of the vote? he needs to go mano a mano with donald trump. and i, right now, can't see how he's going to get to do that. i don't think trump wants to share a debate stage with him. that would be pretty toxic to watch. >> all right, appreciate all it all. a programming note on this coming monday the 12th, i will be hosting the town hall, the presidential candidate chris christie. it will air live at eight pm. that's monday, eight pm, and so, i'll be able to ask him that

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>> an ecological disaster now unfolding against the backdrop of sharply increased fighting in ukraine, a dam and hydroelectric power plant collapsed earlier today, potentially threatening thousands of lives. it's the largest reservoir in ukraine in terms of volume, and about the size of the great salt lake here in the u.s.. ukraine and russia have trade traded accusations over who's to blame for what both say was on attack. satellite imagery allowed by cnn shows damage days before the collapse of the dam. i'm joined now by two of our correspondents in the region, sam kiley in kharkiv northeast of the dam. and fred pleitgen is near kherson, where evacuations are underway. so, fred, you are in the biggest town downstream from the dam what's the scene there? >> hi there anderson. quickly, also -- getting flooded as well. we were going around the area today. right now there's actually curfew. that's where we -- go to this area now. however, there are two things that really stood out to us. and i think you alluded to them

a little bit. first of all, the area that's been flooded this gigantic. and second of all, that area, pretty much all of it, is the front line between the russians and ukrainians. and that is the dnipro river, which right now is getting a lot wider. and just in the short time that we were on the ground there, we saw the waters rise extremely quickly. and there were some people that we were speaking to who said, in the morning, there was nothing, it was completely dry. but after the dam burst, the water rose so quickly that many people did not manage to get out of their houses. and then, were essentially stranded there. the other thing anderson, that i think people need to keep in mind in all of this, is this is one of the most active war zones in all of ukraine. and so, what we're seeing a lot of here, this night as i'm speaking to you right now, but also throughout the entire course of the day, is a lot of shelling that's been going on. and of course, if you look at some of the things that have been happening, people try to get all the houses, that is happening against that backdrop of that shelling. people are still getting wounded as that's taking place, so it's an extremely dangerous situation here on the ground in those flooded areas, anderson. >> so sam, is it clear who

destroyed the dam? >> no, it's not, anderson. the dam was fragile. it has shown signs that it was in danger of structural failure, several days before this final breach. now, the ukrainians have said that it absolutely was the russians. the russians have blamed the ukrainians, saying that they blew it up because things were going so badly for them in the east. but i think one of the interesting side affects of this is, if there was malice or forethought in the russians blew it up. according to a ukrainian officer who operates in the area very close to where fred is right now -- he told us that he had seen catastrophic effects on the russian troops. this is what he said. >> their positions were near fully destroyed. they are full with water. have a lot of --

people and died people for now. this -- they are just -- try to -- evacuate themselves. they left not only their possessions. they left all their weapons and on equipments and ammunitions. and vehicles, including armored vehicles as well. >> so, clearly, anderson, there, some of the shelling perhaps that fred has been hearing and seeing applies to ukrainian troops actually taking advantage of the russians being driven out of their own military positions. and chasing them above ground when they couldn't see them, because now they were being driven out of the flooded trenches and other accommodation they were in. >> and so, fred, how extensive have evacuations been? >> they've been extremely extensive. and we got a firsthand look at this a little earlier today. and everybody who can right now is pitching in. but one of the interesting things that we learned on the ground there, is that first of all, many people didn't have the time to get out of their building. a lot of people were stranded there, and a lot of people remain stranded there right

now. that's one thing to keep in mind, so you have the shelling going on, it's the middle of the night, and people are hearing these mortars and artillery going over their heads as we speak right now. so that's definitely something that's extremely difficult. but what the folks who are conducting this, who are trying to get people out of their houses are telling us, is when this started in the early stages, they were able to take regular cars and get there and try to get these people out. but it became very very quickly, very soon afterwards, that they needed big trucks. and right now, it's pretty much all boats. and the situation certainly is deteriorating. as of right now, i mean ukrainian officials say about 1000 houses remain underwater, and that's just in the area that's held by the ukrainians. obviously as sam would say, the situation on the russian side, or the russian held side we should say, seems to be as, bad if not worse, anderson. >> and sam, does this benefit anybody on the battlefield? i mean you talked to that ukrainian officer, who was saying this has hurt russian troops. but, how do you fight in these

conditions? >> well from the russian perspective, it helps because it makes that border crossing that the ukrainians would have to use for any kind of offensive that much bigger. it soaks the land, so that even when the water recedes, it's much harder to move armor across. but the ukrainians have counter that argument and saying, hey, basically, we anticipated something like this happening. we built that into our military planning, and we are okay with it. this is all to assume that there was going to be some kind of offensive over that dnipro river in the first place, whereas in fact, what we've seen is probing attacks elsewhere, and near zaporizhzhia, up in the east, and of course into russia itself. anderson. >> sam kiley, fred pleitgen, appreciate it. just head, one of the most notorious and damaging spies in the u.s. history is dead, robert hansen was his name. he badly betrayed the u.s.. we will talk to the man who

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>> the fbi has called robert hansen, quote, the most damaging spy in pure history -- died monday at the age of 79 in a super max prison, where he had been serving a life sentence for over two decades. no cause of death was announced. hansen worked as a spy for the soviet union and later russia for a total of 15 years. he held key counterintelligence positions and, according to the

fbi, the information he shared compromise dozens of russian secretly working for the u.s., some of whom were executed. it also gave the russians insight into u.s. eavesdropping, surveillance, and communication techniques. joining me now is cnn chief law enforcement intelligence analyst john miller, -- former nypd deputy -- and former fbi operative fbi operative eric o'neil. who worked undercover as hansen's assistant to help capture him. -- he documented the experience in the book gray day, my undercover mission to expose america's first cyber spy. eric, the story is fascinating. you were 25 when the fbi sent you to work undercover as hansen's assistant. what was he like? what was your relationship with him like? and i'm wondering what you think on his death? >> anderson, first, thanks for having me on 360 -- and john, always good to see you -- as i said, i was 25. i was an fbi ghost. so catching spies, following

them, surveilling them that's what i was used. used to -- in the most unique case, the fbi had ever run in its history up till then was, certainly daunting. hansen was a very difficult person. he was a narcissist, had huge ego, a very quick temper. and he was quick to call me for, example, a moron, when he didn't like me. i had to do the over job of building cybersecurity for the fbi at the same time i did a covert job of investigating robert hansen and trying to find the information that was going to give us a slam dunk case -- >> with the oversuspicious of you? >> he had to be suspicious. >> so hansen had -- he was supposed to just and out his career. and he was going to retire in april of 2001. we only learned about him in december of 2000 and so he brought back to fbi headquarters and promoted to executive service. given his dream job and given

one person to work with him to build cybersecurity for the fbi. that happened to me and so he had to be suspicious that this was an investigation. but until he was able to confirm those suspicions he had to assume that it was real. so, my number one job was, don't screw up. >> and john, just put it in perspective, how damaging was eric hansen too -- >> well, i think robert hanssen -- >> robert -- >> i think robert hanssen was singular in the type of damage. you know, you could look at edward snowden, who released entire nsa programs, but hanssen gave names, names of spies that the fbi and the cia had spent years trying to recruit, who are operating both stateside and in russia. these are people who were called back home, or captured in russia, who were likely tortured. at least three of them were executed. others were in prison. and these are not just critical national security resources, our vision into what russian

espionage and intelligence is doing. but also, human beings. it was quite callous to self-sal thousands of documents for more than 1 million dollars, but send people to their certain deaths. >> eric, i mean based on your time with him -- he said he was a narcissist. was that part of the reason he was spying for the soviet union? was it solely about money? did he like feeling important? >> it was a combination of things. first of all, he had asked for a transferred to the new york field office, which is the most expensive fbi office in terms of quality of life and living. on an fbi salary, so he needed money. he was having children, he couldn't support his life. at the same time, he was a disgruntled employee. he wanted to be a field operative, he wanted to do this sort of things i was doing as an fbi ghost, undercover, chasing targets, using disguises, telephoto lenses, that sort of thing. but his skill set was as an analyst. he was very adept at analyzing large amounts of data, and distilling it down to that one actionable intelligence point, that would allow someone like

me to do what i did. he was angry at the fbi, because he wanted to be james bond, and they made him, in his mind, a librarian. so you have a disgruntled employee, with a large ego, who had financial problems, which is a triggering event. and those are all the ingredients you need for a trusted insider. he was not recruited by the russians, he volunteered his services and maintained a code name, never let the russians know who he was for his 22 years of espionage. and so that was how he protected himself, and he last that long. >> and how did he get brought down? >> a kgb source was identified by a joint fbi, cia task force. it was a former kgb intelligence officer. the kgb was disbanded when the soviet union collapsed. and he had been -- business, and i guess he wanted to retire somewhere nice in the u.s.. he sold a slim file of information, and pointed the finger at robert hanssen this is december at 2000, was hanssen going to retire in

april, just a few months. and so the fbi very quickly put together a operation, to catch robert hanssen which was called the information assurance section. it was a way to lure him back for the department of state, put him in a highly four stages prestigious position, given the accessed access to information, and hope he made that final drop to the russians, that will give us a slam dunk case to put him away. and my job was fined the information that will put us there ahead of him, before he makes that drop. so we can catch him red-handed. >> what kind of changes, john, were made, to the fbi after him? >> after robert hanssen, the polygraph policy about having a top secret clearance, and going through a national security polygraph, are you a spy? have you ever been a spy? have you ever mishandled classified information? that became mandatory. but a lot went into looking for -- this cia turncoat and robert gates, the fbi -- and robert hanssen and others, searching for what were the

common traits between these men, who turned on their country, to figure out how can we see them ahead of time, and people people like verdun sattloff at virginia university worked with fbi pollers profilers to try to develop. that -- >> john miller, eric, thank you, very fascinating. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> plus, up -- did today at the london courtroom that has not happen in more than 130 years.

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>> today, in 11 courtroom, a rare sight, a member of the british royal family on the stand testified -- it was prince harry who -- tabloid media to a new level. cnn's max foster. >> prince harry's years long battle with the tabloid press, reaching its most dramatic moment yet. as he arrived in london's high court to testify in his landmark trial against british publisher mirror group newspapers mgm. court sketchers showing the -- royal to the witness box, for the first time in more than 130 years. prince harry's tell-all memoir,

spare, and recent netflix documentary have already detailed so many of the princes grievances with the press, which he partially blames for his decision to leave the uk and life as a working royal. >> i don't want history to repeat itself. >> and while this is the duke of sussex's first time giving evidence, it's just one of several lawsuits filed by him and his wife meghan markle in which they accuse the british tabloids for breaches of privacy. and publishing false stories. the duke of sussex's central allegation in this case, the publishers journalists hacked his phone and others in his circle, and used other illicit means to gather information about his life between 1996 and 2009. he alleges that about 140 articles published by mgm contain information gathered using unlawful methods 33 of those articles, including stories about his time in school in eaton --

about his first serious relationship with chelsea davey are being considered at the trial. he says these invasions of privacy especially when he was a minor, caused him distress and affected his mental health. speaking in court in a measured and hushed tone, harry accused some british editors and journalists of having blood on their hands. for the distress they caused him, and he added, perhaps inadvertently, death, in reference to his mother, princess diana. he faced forensic and detailed questioning, from m gm's lawyer, andrew green. green questioned how the articles and harry's witness statement could've caused him to stress, if the duke was unable to specifically recall reading each article when they were published. greene also pressed harry on whether the articles contained information that could only have been obtained through illegal means, such as phone hacking. >> -- >> harry believes, both the uk 's press and governments are at

rock-bottom, according to his witness statement, but his time in london isn't over. yet he's expected to continue to giving evidence on wednesday. >> max foster joins me now from london. as you mentioned, prince harry and meghan markle have filed several lawsuits against tabloids, what about the other cases? >> there are several cases involved. with. two of the key ones involved illegal information gathering and other newspaper groups. so, news group, and newspapers which include the sun newspaper, not phone hacking there, but other forms of illegal newsgathering, effectively. and then separately, there is an associated news-limited, which oversees the daily mail, and there were talking about bugging and black again blagging -- results of both those judgments later on this year. but with tween these three cases, really, you've got the entire tabloid media, harry is

taking them on. he wants them reformed, he wants to make sure that these techniques are known about, and never allowed again. >> max foster, appreciate it. thank you. here at home, how a drinking glass and genetic genealogy is connected to a case against an accused of for sexual assaults more than a decade ago. ters the room. phil: excuse me? hillary: that wasn't me. narrator: said hillary, who's only taken 347 steps today. hillary: i cycled here. narrator: speaking of cycles, mary's period is due to start in three days. mary: how do they know so much about us? narrator: your all sharing health data without realizing it. that's how i know about kevin's rash. who's next? wait... what's that in your hand? no, no, stop! oh you're no fun. [lock clicks shut]

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>> and boston, 50 year -- hero rape suspect is -- remarkable case, the accused is now -- the detective say they tracked him down by using dna forensic genealogy. jason carroll reports. >> matthew neil oh, an attorney by trade, in a massachusetts court, defended himself against allegations he is a serial rapist. >> how do you plead to those offenses? guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> he appeared stunned as times as prosecutors laid out their case, alleging that about 15 years ago, he raped three women and tried to rape a fourth. prosecutors say the attacks

occurred in boston's historic charleston neighborhood, the victims they say between 23 and 44 years old at the time. the prosecutor, detailing how she says -- trapped some of his his victims. >> once outside the car, the suspect told her to shut up or would kill her, and that he had a weapon. he flashed a small knife in her, he then drove to terminal street in charles town, we are he ordered the victim out of the ground, knocked her to the ground. >> neelo, who is now 35, faces -- and one count of indecent assault and battery. >> investigators never stopped analyzing evidence. collecting information, and running down leads in order to bring dangerous offenders to justice. >> prosecutors say the investigation went cold for over a decade until last year, when investigators were able to link dna from the crimes to a genealogy database, and zero on

neelo who had since moved from boston and was living in new jersey. it put him under surveillance and got the dna sample they need to make an arrest. >> fbi agents were able to obtain various utensils, and drinking glasses, they watch the defendant use as a corporate. event >> neelo was arrested at this building in weehawken new jersey last week. he tried to speak to his fiancée, who lives here at the building, but we were escorted out of the property and told by the building's management, that we would not be allowed to speak to her. >> neelo's says his client maintains his innocence, and may fight how investigators obtained evidence in the case. >> it seems that they obtained dna evidence without ever obtaining a search warrant. if that turns out to be true, that's an issue that will be pursued vigorously. legal experts say publicly lately accessible genealogy databases have become unaffected source for

investigators to link dna from crime scenes to individuals. law enforcement officials in boston say without it, the rest of -- may not ever have happened. >> it seems that they obtained dna evidence without ever obtaining a search warrant. if that turns out to be true, that's an issue that will be pursued vigorously. legal experts say publicly lately accessible genealogy databases have become unaffected source for investigators to link dna from crime scenes to individuals. law enforcement officials in boston say without it, the rest of -- may not ever have happened. >> and neil remains behind bars, his bail is set at $500,000. he was arraigned last week, his next court appearance is scheduled for monday. >> jason carroll, thanks so much. the news continues. kaitlan collins starts now wow good evening, i'm caitlin collins and tonight we have two big developments in the federal investigations into former president donald trump. cnn has now learned that mark meadows, trump's former trick of stuff, has testified before a grand jury in the special counsel's investigation. he could be a traditional witness, given he is someone who has seen and heard more