far back were they but they still went on to win the nomination? george mcgovern in 1972 was 28 points back, jimmy carter was 18 points back, barack obama was 15 points back. so the idea that a candidate would dom back from being down 50 points doesn't line up with history, but, hey, history may be made to be broken. the other little thing i will note is just candidates announcing the latest primary winners entered the race, bill clinton was the latest august 16th, ronald reagan we are already past this point at may 18th. it's very late to get in if, in fact, you want to be the party's nominee for president. >> we have all your slides and i appreciate that and i appreciate you. i appreciate the number. i appreciate you looking at me and talking to me. harry enten, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> good news for everybody, more tv. cnn's "news central" starts right now. good day.

♪ smoke from the devastating wildfires in canada impacting millions here in the united states. schools are closed and outdoor events are being canceled as the smoke creates the world's worst air pollution in new york city. we are standing by for an update from the vatican as pope francis is undergoing abdominal surgery, stomach surgery, at this very moment. what we are learning about the 86-year-old's procedure. for the first time in modern history a former vice president is running against his former boss. cnn is on the trail in iowa as mike pence makes it official. this is cnn "news central." ♪

you are now looking at a live picture of new york city. yeah, it's really smoky. more than 30 million people are under air quality alerts this morning as smoke from wildfires in canada is pouring to the south, shrouding u.s. cities across the northeast, mid-atlantic and midwest. new york city public schools have canceled outdoor activities today because of the air quality. at one point yesterday the city topped the list of the world's worst air pollution. and you can see in these pictures new yorkers could barely make out the city's iconic skyline. i took some of this video yesterday, this is from midtown, manhattan, and there is some video also coming in from the upper west side. hard to see those buildings there in the background. now, in canada's capital city of ottawa an orange haze took over the skyline for weeks now. firefighters in canada have been battling wildfires in british

columbia and nova scotia. quebec is the biggest hot spot at the moment with more than 150 active wildfires burning. all of it is expected to keep u.s. cities blanketed with smoke into tomorrow. cnn's athena jones is joining us from here in new york. what are the conditions now? i can see a little bit of haze still out there behind you. >> reporter: good morning, sara. that's exactly right. you can look out across the hudson, you can see off in the distance that's jersey city, new jersey, you can see another sightseeing boat taking off. we've seen a lot of people trying to go about their daily lives, running, some wearing masks, some not wearing masks but the hazy and smoky conditions continue. this is all about health and safety. this is why we're seeing officials here in new york city and officials and agencies up and down the northeast all the way down to raleigh, north carolina, i should say, telling people to be cautious, to limit their time outdoors.

this looks a bit better than it did at least to my eye last night. it looked last night like there was a cloud that the descended straight on the city. if you look at the numbers they're still at very unhealthy levels when it comes to the air quality index. these are pollutants that are among the tiniest and most dangerous pollutants it's called pm 2.5, particulate matter. it's so tiny when you inhale this stuff it can go deep into your lungs and pass into the bloodstream and cause health problems like asthma, res respiratory issues, heart disease and can make anyone suffering from that thing the symptoms much, much worse. that is why we're seeing schools here in the city and upstate in central new york, ten school districts canceling outdoor activity. we know that mayor adams in new york is about to hold a press conference next hour to give us an update on what to expect, but we know that of course you don't want to be at the top of the list of most polluted cities in

the world and that's why new york has been over the last couple days. >> you hear a lot of people talking about that, athena and i notice you're wearing a mask. everyone thinks of covid when they see the mask but this is what you do in places like california where i live to try to keep yourself safe from huge amounts of smoke. i appreciate your reporting today. let's go to cnn meteorologist derek van dam who is joining us now. derek, how long is this expected to go on? >> yeah, share ration this is definitely one of those days as an asthmatic you don't want to step out the door without your asthma pump because it could literally save your life. to answer your question, i think we've got at least another day where we're going to have this brown hazy smoke in the sky. now, you may have enjoyed maybe the beautiful sunrises and sun sets as this cloud is in the upper levels of the atmosphere, too, it blocks out the sun, it filters out the shortwave lengths and leaves us that red hue, but when it settles to the ground it becomes an issue.

athena has been appropriately reporting on that because obviously this has major health implications for people like myself who is an asthmatic. just take a look at the national mall in washington, d.c., it's not only new york city, it's also philadelphia, it's also baltimore and our nation's capital. the big apple, though, jostling with what was the notoriously most polluted city in the world, deli, india, one time topping the list of the most polluted cities in the entire planet. incredible. you have to look to the satellite imagery to see what is going on. last night we saw a wall of smoke progressing across lake ontario from the wildfires in quebec and that is what we will see in the hours and days to come. the fires will be burning for several more days if not weeks and that smoke all dependent on the wind direction is going to filter it into some of the most populated areas all registers unhealthy to hazardous levels of particulate matter that athena was talking about. here is the smoke forecast, you can see kind of another large

area, a plume of smoke will be filtering in through the rest of the workweek and that is why we have so many million americans under this air quality alert currently impacting not only the quality of the air, but also the visibility that you and i see as we step -- >> i can tell you i can actually feel the same feeling that i got there after some time, headaches and a little congestion. so it's important that even when you are quite healthy as not asthmatic that you take this very seriously. derek van dam, thank you very much. we are standing by for an upupdate from the vet can. announced oversight pope francis is back in a hospital in rome and undergoing abdominal surgery. officials say the pope who is 86 years old has been placed under general anesthesia to fix a hernia and is expected to remain hospitalized for several days for recovery afterward.

cnn's dr. sanjay gupta joins us now for more on this. sanjay, so the word from the vatican is that the hernia surgery is intended to fix what they describe as, quote, recurrent, painful and worsening symptoms. what can you tell us about this surgery? >> well, this is almost assuredly related to an operation that he had back for his colon in 2021. when you do that sort of operation you are opening up the abdominal wall, you're doing the operation that needs to be done on the colon and then you try to repair the abdominal wall as well. sometimes that repair of the abdominal wall becomes loose. so your abdominal wall actually starts to splay open a bit and as a result, you know, you may notice sort of just pooching which is not problematic, it's just cosmetic, but ultimately if that opening is larger and larger, you can start to actually get bowel, the rest of the colon, small intestine,

whatever, sort of pooching through there and that's what's quite painful and that is what is called an abdominal hernia. a lot of people hear the term hernia and think of one located in the groin area. this is different. this is probably due to the incision that he had back for the original operation and sort of the opening of the skin and the muscle around that operation. that's what the hernia is in this case. most of the times it does require a surgical repair, as you can see there. so this is not that surprising, but that's likely what he's undergoing now. >> and it can be very painful. i have family members who have had to undergo this procedure and it does right up until the point where they get surgery there is a lot of pain that can be associated with it. what are the risks here with this surgery, you know, when you take into account the age of the pope? should people be concerned? >> you know, i think when you look at these types of

operations, really the biggest risk involves the anesthesia of this. even more so than the operation itself, because really in many ways you're focusing on the muscles, the skin, you may put in mesh to try to create a solid sort of closure there, but he's 86 years old, i have to tell you i've operated on patients even this week that are older than that, so, you know, you can have patients that go through these types of operations and come out just fine, but those are the -- probably the biggest risks. you know, we know obviously about the pope's health and most of his health history has been recent. he had this -- he had a fever in may as you may remember and there was some concern at that point just over the infection. he's had lung surgery when he was very young and then he had this colon surgery back in 2021, but there is not a lot of other cardiovascular sort of health concerns that we know about with regard to the pope. obviously they are going to try to do this as quickly as possible so he is under anesthesia as little time as

possible, but, yeah, you have to take this seriously given his age, given the anesthesia and i'm sure that's what they're doing right now. i mean, i think this operation is currently undergoing. >> absolutely. great to see you as always, sanjay. thank you. so new details in the classified documents probe into former president trump and, frankly, a flurry of new activity that raises questions about just how close to a charging decision things might be. testimony before a grand jury in florida right now. cnn has learned that special counsel jack smith is using this second grand jury there, the first as we know was in washington, d.c., moments ago a spokesperson for donald trump arrived at the federal courthouse in miami. there he is. now, all of this, all of this activity, the meeting with trump lawyers and the justice department, this grand jury in florida, the testimony we're learning about from mark meadows, all of it points to the

investigation into the potential mishandling of classified materials appearing to be nearing its final stages. cnn senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz outside the court in miami. why don't you bring us up to speed. >> reporter: well, john, taylor and his attorney stanley woodward did arrive a half an hour ago to the federal courthouse in downtown miami. they wouldn't answer any questions about why they were here or why they believed they were here in miami rather than in washington, d.c. where we saw for months grand jury activity, but our reporting team has been able to confirm that they are here today because of the special counsel's investigation and because of that special counsel looking into the handling of documents at mar-a-lago, obviously mar-a-lago is just down the road in palm beach, in the same federal district that miami is in. so there are a lot of questions why this grand jury activity is now in miami, why it's not

continuing in washington, d.c., but we do know that this isn't the first time that a witness has been called in to testify to a grand jury here, that there have been other witnesses in this special counsel investigation into the handling of documents and donald trump that have been appearing in this courthouse as well. >> caitlin, a spokesperson frankly on the political side of things for donald trump, why might this be happening? i think there has been a lot of speculation that the florida grand jury might hear from mar-a-lago employees, you know, maintenance-type people, but this is a political guy. what does that tell us? >> reporter: well, taylor budewich is a figure that has been beside donald trump and close to him and his political operation since he left the white house, close to donald trump's current campaign manager, also one of the crucial or the crucial person running a super pac for donald trump that supports donald trump at this time as he's running for president, but actually taylor

budewich was serving as a spokesperson for donald trump for some time after he left the white house and crucially was there at a moment where donald trump has sent back 15 boxes to the national archives that contained documents marked as classified, the archives found them, this kicked off this criminal investigation and right after that happened donald trump wanted to release a statement saying he had turned over everything to the archives, a number of people around trump pushed back on him releasing that statement and taylor budewich told the former president that you need to consult with your attorneys before you say it and that is not exactly what was said in a public statement, john. >> katelyn polantz outside the federal courthouse in miami, keep us posted. no knows what else we might see over the next few hours. thank you very much. with me now is cnn's senior legal analyst elie honig. okay. elie, taylor budewich, this spokesperson and political

figure testifying right now and testifying in florida. it all points to -- >> we are near the end is what it all points torques john. i say that for a few reasons. if we look at the overall pacing of investigation, jack smith took over as special counsel about seven and a half months ago. there was an initial flurry of subpoenas, testimony, that's what you would expect and then as the witnesses have come in one by one we've seen it slow to a trickle now. we now know that mark meadows has testified, we don't know when, but we know that he testified -- >> this is former president donald trump's former chief of staff. >> exactly. >> key figure in both january 6 and also the mar-a-lago classified documents. >> yes, and we now know that he testified about both of those things based on our new reporting from evan perez. mark meadows was the last big obvious witness left, we didn't know whether he had testified, now we know that he did. finally to me the biggest tell was the meeting that happened earlier this week between donald trump's legal team and doj personnel including the special counsel jack smith.

i was a prosecutor, those meetings are very common, you have them at the very end of the process. >> okay. the venues here, the fact that there is a grand jury in florida, which we're only learning about now, it's been impaneled for some time but we're only learning about it now. what might that tell us? >> it could be a couple of very different things. it could be just a convenience measure, it could be there are some witnesses who are in florida, don't want to or can't come up to d.c. what you can do as a prosecutor then is take their testimony in florida and then take the transcript of it and read it or hand it to the grand jury in d.c. to save time, to save travel. or it could mean that prosecutors are considering charging some or all of this case in the federal southern district of florida as opposed to or maybe even in addition to in washington, d.c. and that decision, where to charge this case, is crucial when you think about what the potential jury pool is going to look like for donald trump in florida versus in washington, d.c. >> florida was a state he won in the election, what percent of

vote did donald trump get in washington, d.c.? >> exactly 5.4% of the vote went to trump. i can do the math that means 94.6% fd d.c. residents voted against him. >> in terms of where you press charges if you do press charges what does it matter about where the alleged crime occurred? >> this is a concept called venue. it means when prosecutors charge a case federally you have to charge it in a federal district where at least some part of the crime occurred. sometimes as potentially here that's multiple districts. you're supposed to pick the district where the most conduct occurred but sometimes you don't for various reasons including potential strategic reasons. two important things, you have to prove that you charged it in the right place. if you go to trial and the jury finds nothing related to that crime happened here, they have to find not guilty. the other thing is before trial the defendant can make a motion to move to a different venue. so hypothetically if this case gets charged in washington, d.c. donald trump may well go right to court and say move this to florida. >> one last question on mark

meadows, the former president's former chief of staff. people remember he was central to the january 6th investigation and the congressional investigation, that he had a lot of text messages, he was chief of staff on that day. but also connected to the mar-a-lago documents probe because it was people helping him write his autobiography that have trump on tape talking about knowledge, according to cnn's reporting, of possession of classified documents that he maybe shouldn't have had. why is his testimony important and just reiterate, if you can, the idea that in this investigation probably both there is no one as important other than donald trump perhaps than mark meadows. >> mark meadows is everywhere in this case like you laid out he is in the middle of january 6 but also very important on mar-a-lago. he was the chief of staff in the closing days of the trump presidency. he was the liaison or one of the liaisons between the white house and the national archives. he is in a sense responsible for the packing up and the move. so i would want to ask him did you know these documents were being sent to mar-a-lago?

did you talk about it with trump? did he know they were classified? did he declassify? i would have a lot of questions for mark meadows. >> the open question we don't know the answer to is if he struck some deal for his testimony. we are digging there. big day. thank you. coming up for us, water rescues under way after the collapse of a major dam in ukraine. this as u.s. officials are reporting that they are seeing signs of increased fighting over the last 48 hours. has the long awaited counteroffensive begun? and tough questions for prince harry when he testified for a second day in his courtroom battle with the british tabloid publisher. he says his phone was hacked. we will be right back. i struggled with cpap every night. but now that i got the inspire implant

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out of india where a bridge under construction collapsed in the ganges river making a huge splash. this is the second time the bridge was crumbled in just over a year. indian officials have ordered an investigation but still haven't said publicly what caused the first collapse. cnn has not confirmed reports of any injuries there. as of this morning former vice president mike pence is officially running. pence who also happens to be celebrating his 64th birthday today launched his presidential bid with a campaign video focused conservative politics, faith and also hitting at president biden and his policies. he joins what is now a rapidly changing and expanding republican field. cnn's kyung lah is in iowa where mike pence will be taking part in a cnn town hall later this evening. jeff zeleny is also joining us from washington. kyung, first to you. donald trump is the clear front runner right now of course. what's the case mike pence will be trying to make? >> reporter: well, what his

campaign is saying is that they say that the case for mike pence is that it is too early, the race is still wide open. they believe that there are persuadable republicans who want a conservative leader and that they believe that mike pence will be able to sell that message here in iowa and that persuasion begins today. they do acknowledge that pence, yes, is well-known to republicans, that he is 100% name id. what they may not remember, though, is that he is decades of leadership as a governor of indiana, as a conservative leader in congress, and they say that in that launch video you heard those messages. kind of harkening back to those conservative ideals, especially of a former president, that of ronald reagan, but you may also notice he did not say donald trump's name. take a listen. >> we're better than this. we can turn this country around, but different times call for

different leadership. today our party and our country need a leader that will appeal, as lincoln said, to the better angels of our nature. >> reporter: and it will be a difficult dance, but a dance that his campaign believes that he can navigate in those living rooms, in the diners, where it really comes down to hand shakes. that retail politics here in iowa. one to one with the voters where pence can sell his message, sell his message of faith, of conservatism. he believes that it is here in iowa that those are the republicans he can reach who are persuadable. the question, though, kate, is are there enough of them? the campaign estimates there's 75% to 80% that they might be able to wiggle. it's just unclear if that math will stand. kate? >> great questions, kyung. jeff, you have one of the big questions for all of them of course is how do they take on the front runner? how do they take on donald trump? mike pence as we've seen is much more subtle in how he has separated himself from the president up to this point. we will see what it looks like

from here. chris christie now now candidate very different approach. going much more directly at donald trump. is it clear that, though, either of these approaches is welcome in today's republican party? >> look, we're going to see which approach is the most effective if either of them are. and this really is a book end of approaches here. as kyung was just talking about the former vice president is going to be making his -- essentially calling on his biography and talking about his conservative record. former new jersey governor chris christie is doing anything but, he's going directly at former president donald trump. he said that is what the republican party needs to do. so sort of a hammer and glove approach, if you will, but take a listen to christie last night in new hampshire, made clear that he is going for the jugular of donald trump. >> a lonely, self-consumed, self-serving mirror hog is not a

leader. the reason i'm going after trump is twofold. one, he deserves it, and two, it's the way to win. >> reporter: so the question is if chris christie is the right messenger for that. some people in the republican party and others, independents and likely democrats agree with his assessment but is he the right messenger to make the case that donald trump as he says is a mirror hog. obviously that is not likely to sort of dissuade any trump supporters. so we are going to see a variety of approaches here as the summer months continue of how they go after the former president, but one thing is clear, kate, as the field continues to grow trump is still the chief beneficiary of all of these alternatives because it simply splits up the vote. so that is also what worries some republican leaders, kate. >> it's great to see you both this morning on this what is a very important day with this

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so this morning mass evacuations and rescues in the kherson region of ukraine after the collapse of a critical dam in the southern part of that country. floodwaters spread across the center of that city, some parts entirely cut off. a russian-appointed mayor in the area outside the city, ukraine controls the city itself, but russia the region around it, that mayor said at least seven people are missing. ukraine and russia both are blaming each other for the collapse. it's still unclear who might be responsible for the dam's destruction. as this is happening u.s. and western officials see signs that ukraine's long awaited counter offensive against russia is beginning and have noted a substantial increase in fighting in the eastern part of the country offer the last 48 hours. with us now is retired army major mike lyons. great to see you here. i want to start with the impact that the flooding might be having. this is what kherson looks like

in the southern part of the country. you can see the streets flooded, water up over some of the houses here. let me show people where that is. that's right here. the dnipro river of course is here. talk to me about how the existence of this flooding, this dam being gone now, how that might impact the fighting. >> it's going to close this gap of where the counter offensive can take place. i've always said that the counter offensive has got to come in this way to try to threaten crimea and to fight russian troops gag g.ing in this direction here. now with this dam being exploded here this has become completely unpassable, there is no way that the ukraine military can navigate the dnipro river at that point. it pushes this fight further to the north and further to the east. this is why russia from their perspective thinks it's a good thing because they have abandoned those positions. had the ukraine military dropped that dam let's say eight months ago they could have trapped a bunch of russians but that hadn't been the case right now. advantage russia somewhat because of this. >> if youk wants to push in now to this region where would they

have to do it? where would they have to do that from? >> i still think they have to come in this direction, they have to figure out a place where they're going to forward that dnipro river with either bridging material or helicopters, ways to get troops across. it's not going to be a battle of the bulge, not a typical large formations of tanks like we've seen in history. this is going to be an asymmetrical warfare, guerrilla tactics, i think they will get troops deal e. deep into the areas and disrupt russian supply lines, get russian troops to surrender and have somewhat of a victory or somewhat of a foot hold n 90 to 120 days when the abrams tanks and the leopard tanks and all the other good stuff coming from nato arrives, then they can have a much more effective counter offensive that comes back through this area, threatening crimea, that is the issue, russia has to have crimea. >> this is crimea which russia has occupied since roughly 2015.

you're saying ukraine now will operate in this area right here. how important is it for the ukrainians to break what we've been calling this land bridge between russia and crimea? >> very important. it will disrupt lines of communication, lines of supply. russian soldiers in that area in the defense, active defense, and they will have somewhat of an advantage, they've been preparing the positions for months, however, we know they are not motivated, with he understand there have been troops surrendering and the like. this is going to give them their best advantage. the counteroffensive is something that ukraine can't lose. the president keeps talking about it's going to happen here. they get to pick the time, they get to pick the place but the bottom line is they have to be successful at it. >> let me just ask from a tactical standpoint, when you see regions flooded like this, how difficult or maybe impossible is it to operate at the bplatoon or ba tall i don't know level? >> impossible.

there's nothing at that level that will allow them forwarding any of this equipment with heavy military equipment. the chances of it doing before the flood were low because of the challenges of tides now it's virtually impossible. from russia's perspective they can focus their troops to the north knowing that's the only place the attack can take place. >> has to move in this direction for now. major mike lyons, thank you very much. it is a deal not even the professional golfers saw coming after a year-long bitter feud pga tour and saudi-backed liv golf will merge. it's causing excitement for some players but also frustration for the families of 9/11. coming up, we will talk to a man whose father was killed in the nech terrorist attacks. why he says he feels betrayed by the agreement. plus opening statements began in the trial against scott peterson the school resource officer who stayed outside during the parkland school massacre. the details on that just ahead.

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the union says they're asking for better wages, better benefits, but also better working conditions. remember, these are the people who worked throughout the pandemic. they were essential workers. the union is asking for basic things like air conditioning in u.p.s. trucks. so that is a health hazard for people who are driving. we know that the two sides are meeting this week and u.p.s. says that they want to come to an agreement before that august 1st deadline, but this is going to impact, if this happens, this is going to impact so many americans, millions of americans. it's going to impact factories, offices, people who live in rural areas who rely on u.p.s. to get their packages. august 1st is a ways away, but we have been hearing from the union. they've been touting this strike fund of $350 million that they have to help offset what the u.p.s. workers would be losing in wages if they do end up going on strike. >> i mean, look, to put that out

there again, the largest work stoppage in u.s. history. >> yeah, ever. >> what would that actually look like? i mean, it affects, as you were pointing out, every corner of the united states, every aspect of our lives, because so much moves by u.p.s. what would that look like? >> u.p.s. moves 20 million packages every single day. the u.s. postal service, fedex, could not pick up the slack. they would not be able to handle u.p.s.'s volume, also the last u.p.s. strike was in 1997 where 180,000 workers went on strike. this time if it happened it would be double that, 340,000 workers. >> this is a different time. >> different time. >> amazon didn't even exist then when all of this -- >> basically just shows there's so much more volume traveling by mail and u.p.s. is handling a lot of it. >> that's wild. all right. we will stay close to it. thanks for bringing it to us. a new report from the american lung association reveals how the u.s. can prevent

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u.s. secretary of state anthony blinken is in saudi arabia this morning. overnight he met with sawed i crown prince muhammad bin salman. they had an open discussion about stabilizing the middle east. back in the united states the golf world is in shock following the surprise announcement that the pga tour is now merging with saudi-backed liv golf. after a long, bitter feud, many players say they didn't know the announcement was even coming. the pga tour held a heated meeting with the golfers last night. >> it was contentious. there were many moments where certain players were calling for

new leadership of the pga tour and even got a couple of standing ovations. there was a lot of anger in that room from players, feeling like they can't trust what the leadership of the pga tour says anymore. >> a group representing the families and survivors of the 9/11 terrorist attacks say that they are shocked and deeply offended by the merger saying that pga leaders should be ashamed of their hypocrisy and greed. the group has been very outspoken about liv golf which is bankrolled by the saudi government, claiming they are largely responsible for the deaths suffered on september 11, 2001. randy olson's father died on that day. his son is joining us now, brett, thank you very much for joining us. can you first tell me what you immediately thought when you heard that the saudi-funded liv golf would merge with the pga? >> it felt like a gut punch.

i woke up, i read the news just like every other family member woke up that morning, we were utterly shocked. just one month ago the pga was in senate offices were talking about the atrocities against the kingdom of saudi arabia and how they should be disqualified and dismissed based on their human rights abuses and for 24 months we saw liv argue that the pga is engaging in antitrust and engaging in all of these activities and we come to find out that lo and behold, behind closed doors after using our talking points, our blood, sweat and tears and that took a biden executive order to obtain, the pga cuts a deal with the kingdom of saudi arabia to effectively increase their pay day. look, for 22 years 9/11 family members have been fighting this battle with no help from any -- really no help from any

administration from obama to bush to trump. finally, we have documents that clearly call out the kingdom of saudi arabia financed and supported the 9/11 terror attacks. at least a dozen members of the government were said by the fbi to be behind the attacks and the hypocrisy by monahan and people like jimmy dune or don, i should say is atrocious and the worst part of this is i've had to answer text messages and e-mails from literally, 50, 60 family members saying what happened? we thought that the pga was built upon integrity. we thought that the pga had morals. we thought that they had ethics and for 12 months they had just trashed -- trashed the kingdom's name and then they turn around and do this deal.

it feels like a gut punch. >> brett, why do you think they made this about face? is it just in your mind about one simple thing -- money? >> it certainly seems that way. one thing that i wanted to say, if the kingdom of saudi arabia and the united states government want to settle or stabilize relations like you had talked about on the lead-in. tony blinken is in saudi arabia right now. it is a mistake to ignore the 9/11 community. we are not going anywhere. this kingdom of saudi arabia should have prioritized our interests over the interests of golfers. golf is a game. the golfing community did not lose 3,000 americans on 9/11. so the 9/11 community is demanding a meeting with the chairman of the pif. if they want to normalize relations and if they want to advance and improve relations and use golf to, you know, move

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