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this country and they apply to everyone. >> reporter: special prosecutor jack smith. >> some of our most sensitive national security information. >> but still, to get indicted over nothing? >> if he wants to store material in a box in a bathroom, if he wants to store it in a box on a stage, he can do that. >> if even half of it is true, then he's toast. >> you can't with one part weaponizing against the other. >> president trump will have his day in court but espionage charges are ridiculous. >> i think they're solid counts. >> our people are ang bring and they keep doing it. >> it's election interference at its best. >> this idea of presenting trump as a witch hunt is ridiculous.
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>> this is as damning an indictment as i think i've ever seen. >> good monday morning. poppy harlow is off. i'm erica hill. >> it started friday after we were done with this show. you realized, oh, wow, this is about as lengthy, detailed, to some degree simple and elwill he grant. >> there's a lot to dig into. former president trump is in bedminster before he travels to florida. he's facing 37 counts over his
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handling of classified documents. >> federal prosecutors say he kept a stash of security documents and hid them. he kept the boxes of highly sensitive documents in plates around the mar-a-lago resort including a bathroom, shower, his bedroom. just hours from now officials set to hold a news conference. they'll talk about how they're ramping up security. sources telling cnn the fbi is tracking potential threats as violent rhetoric surges online. the far right group of proud boys are traveling to show their support for the former president. a lot to cover this morning. we have all of the angles covered. we have a team here with us in the studio. let's begin with katelyn pollanz who is outside the federal court
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house in miami. how are we expecting this to play out? >> reporter: erica and phil, it will be a pretty quick trip to the state of florida by donald trump. he will be traveling into miami and going to his resort nearby. essentially, he's got to prepare for what's to come on tuesday afternoon. we expect him to be talking with his lawyers. his co-defendant walt nada had been traveling with him over the weekend and is expected to come to court over the summons from the justice department to make their initial appearance. on tuesday they'll be brought into this courthouse. we might not see them walk in at all. they'll go in and meet with a magistrate judge where they'll face the charges in the indictment. they'll be told what they're charged with, obstruction for both of them. for the former president, 31 counts representing documents of national security any, national defense importance that he is
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alleged to have row tand knowingly outside of the federal government and they'll have a chance to enter their pleas. it's expected they will say not guilty even if they could entertain plea deals down the road. then we'll get a sense of how this moves forward after court. then donald trump is out of town pretty quickly. he'll be flying back up to new jersey to give a speech at his resort in bedminster. >> i'm going to be like one of our bosses and ask you the question you can't answer. what's the time line here? we've heard months. we've heard potentially years. what's the time line for when this could all play out? >> reporter: that's a great question because judges do what judges are going to do and the court can be very, very unpredictable. in this circumstance, we're
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heading in before a magistrate judge. the judge that will handle it, aileen cannon, a trump appointed judge, doesn't come in until later. she'll set the date and how close that might be to the election next year. sometimes cases take a full year or more. they can go into appeals, although not always, with a criminal case it's hard to appeal in the middle of things. in this circumstance we know the justice department wants to move fast. they say they're going to ask for a speedy trial. that's something that the clock starts ticking and the clock only lasts for about three months give or take a little bit. we'll see how the judge responds to that, whether or not she's going to allow things stretch out more especially since there's classified material involved in this case. >> thanks. we'll be sticking with you throughout the course of this morning. erica?
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>> when we're talking about the documents, what were they? how did they get from the white house to mar-a-lago? how did they get into the hands of investigators? we learned a lot about that. eli honig is with us. what did we learn about the documents taken to mar-a-lago? >> it's been a long, strange trip for these documents and it starts back when donald trump was still president in washington, d.c. we recognize that. that is walt nada, the second defendant in this case. he was donald trump's valet. in the weeks and days before donald trump left office in january of 2021, the indictment alleges that trump and nada trump himself was directly involved in the packaging up of these documents and sending them down to mar-a-lago. there was some speculation what would trump know about packing up. he was involved and he knew what was being sent. the indictment gives us important information about what's in those documents.
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yes, there are things that are souvenirs, trinkets, newspaper articles. there are documents created by and for the cia, department of defense, nsa that relate to our defensive capabilities, nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities and potential retaliation. that's how sensitive they are. >> once they got there, the indictment is very sbak what happened to them, the journey, if you will, that they were taking at the resort. >> let's track this. the first place they land, that's a stage, erica, in a ballroom, in the white and gold ballroom in mar-a-lago. that's where they're first put. the key guy moving these and orchestrating these is walt nada. >> that's it. the acting under instruction. >> there's a piece of the indictment that quotes a text that says he, meaning donald trump, is tracking the boxes. more to follow today on whether he wants to go through, go
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through more of those boxes, today or tomorrow. that's a krcrucial text in the indictment. they start off in the ballroom, to the business center, to the lake room. you're not seeing things, folks. that's a shower. yes, that is a toilet. this is the first time i've ever telestrated a toilet. >> may not be the last. >> they were kept in the bathroom of the lake room. finally they were moved to a very important location here, the storage room. an important part of the story is at one point nada goes into the storage room and sees them spilled on the ground. panicking, what do we do? that's how they end be up in the storage room. >> this picture in the indictment, the fact that it was taken by nada when he noticed it over concerns. >> crucial piece of evidence. it plays into the obstruction of justice, too, because doj serves a subpoena in 2022. he gets his lawyer and says all
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the documents you're going to go through, they're in the storage room. corcoran goes through them. he finds 38 documents, we did a diligent search. this is what we've got. the deception happened by trump and nda because they took 64 documents out of there in the days before corcoran and just put 30 of them back. would he can do them back. that means 34 boxes were intentionally kept away from walt nada and the doj and that's where the obstruction comes out. >> a lot happening and a lot of detail, important detail. with us now in the studio back like they never left, our team. john miller. john, i want to start with you. you're good about walking us through what's happening behind the scenes. stakes are enormous. obviously there's a lot of concern. what's actually happening amid security preparations leading up to tomorrow? >> it's a big machine. there's a lot of wheels
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churning. secret services job is literally going to be to protect former president trump get him in, get him out, make sure he's safe. the u.s. marshals, their job is to protect the inside of that house. miami pd, miami-dade, florida state police, they're going to be doing the wider picture around that building. are there going to be crowds? are there going to be large crowds? are there going to be small crowds that create an issue? so right now you're going to be looking at josh campbell's reporting from friday that the fbi has already put out a notice to 56 field offices saying scan for intelligence that may involve violence and reaction to this. the major city police chiefs and their intelligence commander put together a conference call where they will poll each other. what are you hearing? what do you have to get a national picture of what cities are facing. miami's ground zero for tomorrow. you have groups like the oath
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keepers, the proud boys, the 3 percenters. patriot front. some have been damaged because the leaders have been put in federal prison. for the oath keepers, there's serious damage. the proud boys doesn't matter. they become decentralized. they work chapter to chapter and state to state. they don't generate large numbers. all of this is being factored into the security for tomorrow. >> i want to play some comments mean and how closely they're being monitored. take a listen. >> we're at wash, people. you want to get to president trump, you're going to have to go through me and you're going to have to go through 75 million americans just like me. and i'm going to tell you -- yup. most of us are card carrying members of the nra. that's not a threat.
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that's a public service announcement. >> she says it's not a threat. how does law enforcement look at comments like that? are three a threat? >> law enforcement looks at that as protected by the first amendment. what are the comments on the other side, in the chat rooms, message boards are people talking about let's get our guns, let's do something. remember, in cincinnati just days after the mar-a-lago search warrant, a guy with an ar-15 rifle came in and opened fire on the fbi's office there until he was killed in a shootout with police. so you've got the group thing. you've got the crowd thing. you've got the lone wolf thing to consider in these factors. florida's a funny place. under governor desantis they made it easier to carry guns. you don't need a permit. you can have concealed weapons. but it's not an open carry state so you can't show up with your ar-15 or pistols on the hip and fully exposed.
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there's a trick. if you are a hunter on the way to a hunting thing, fisherman going fishing, if you're a sportsman on your way to target practice, then you can. of so you've seen second amendment groups do these gatherings where they carry their weapons in the open basicall y it's dealing with when trump or trump case comes knocking on its door with law enforcement and the fbi. have they learned a lesson over the last couple of years to listen to chatter, pass that chatter on, to really take these kinds of comments and specifically what's going on on social media very seriously where they can, obviously. there's discord channels and things like that that are more low key and harder to penetrate, but we know they've been doing
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more work in this area because earlier they talked about extremist groups, merrick garland, et cetera. this is going to be another example of where our system has been stress tested and we might see the reflection of that over the next few days. >> i think and hope that the sentences -- the convictions and sentences of some of the january 6th rioters have sent a message. one of the purposes is deterrence. you want to deter them and deterrence too. the leader of the oath keepers got 18 years. stewart rhodes, 11 years, 7 years. these are real sentences. i hope anyone doing anything takes notice of that. >> that's a cool tweet. i don't know if people want to lay things down on the line. >> our own town hall meeting, would you pardon all of these people if you were re-elected? sure. they came with love. >> i don't know if that's what
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resonates with people. counting on whether donald trump's going to get elected again. he's going to potentially pardon you or if they are looking at, you know, what happened in the wake of january 6th if that does serve as a deterrent. one thing that has been striking to me is how many of the sort of same players are popping up again. talking about the proud boys again. listening to an interview roger stone did with donald trump yesterday. again, another player talking about the supporters that are going to be there in miami to stand for donald trump and then roger stone is quick to say, but we're assembling peacefully. people are going to be assembling peacefully. we'll see if that resonates. >> this is the cover of the new york post. it will be familiar for those who live in washington. we've been living in this world throughout the course of the case. >> you followed a lot of congressional investigations very closely. is that a fair analog? >> i don't think we are talking about an apples to apples
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comparison here. no, it's not a fair analog in that nobody in these cases has been stashing hundreds of documents with classified markings in a bathroom and then refusing to return them to the federal government when prosecutors say return this, we're subpoenaing you, we're serious, return this. i do think it is a fair question to say, you know, what are you guys going to do about the hunter biden investigation. this has been going on for a while. we don't have a charging decision. again, we're getting to be in the full swing of a presidential election year. are you going to charge it? are you going to move on? with joe biden and his retention of classified documents, again, he returned them much more willingly than he saw with donald trump. the question is, what's going to happen with this? is there going to be an end to this investigation? if so, when are we going to hear about that. >> sarah makes a great point about the hunter biden investigation at doj. this is preposterous. this has been pending since 2018. five years and this, by the way,
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is not the laptop. this is the investigation that's a tax issue. did hunter biden declare his income and an obscure gun law, did he have a gun when he was under drug laws. five years, that's a five week investigation. this spans the trump administration and the biden administration. someone's got to make a call on this case. i don't know what is going on. it's beyond anything i've seen before. >> the u.s. attorney was kept on from the trump administration in that case. yes, there's no parallel. nobody's saying there's a parallel to anything we saw in the 37 charges but to your point, it's not a question of republicans or by the way democrats. >> make a call. >> what's actually going on here. stick with us. more good stuff to come. bill barr projecting trouble. trump is weighing in. what he's saying about his former attorney general. plus, the indictment, he's also drawing a line through the gop field. how that would help and they
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there was nothing wrong with declassifying documents, taking documents with you, negotiating. the only thing that was wrong was the raid on his home and the complete duel tier of justice. >> if even half of it is true, then he's toast. i mean, it's pretty -- it's a very detailed indictment and it's very, very damning. and this idea of presenting trump as a victim here, a victim of a witch hunt is ridiculous. >> two very different takes there this morning. the current attorney at odds with his former attorney general who he says trump is not being treated unfairly in this classified documents case. let's take a look with donald ayer. he was under george w. bush and he worked with bill barr. we hear the comments from bill barr, very clear in what he sees in this indictment, how detailed
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it was, what this means for the former president. how much weight do you think his words carry? >> well, i think what really carries weight is what the indictment alleges and the ability, if they have it, which i'm sure they do, to prove the events in the indictment. it's a very damning indictment and if you read the whole thing, you actually see there's a long statement in there by donald trump himself talking about how important it is to protect national security secrets and how he's going to do something about it. bill barr is the worst attorney general in the history of the united states. he did everything he could to help donald trump secure the position he wanted as an autocratic president. he did favors for his friends. he misused the department of justice, including using an investigation in order to get donald trump re-elected, so at the end of the day what bill
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barr has to say is of no weight in my mind. i to think, however, that the fact that this person, who was such a scoundrel as the attorney general for donald trump, even he sees the force of this indictment and sees how clear it is that donald trump has done terrible things for which he deserves to be punished. so i think a lot of people will give it weight. >> it's quite a picture you paint of your assessment of the former attorney general and your opinion of him that some will give it weight. it's interesting though because so much of what we hear, it seems that the opinions are already baked in for many americans. we're going to share some of this reporting later in the hour, but even some of our own reporters in talking to trump supporters over the weekend asking specifically have they read the indictment, there wasn't a desire to even read it. do you think the comments from a bill barr or alan dershowitz who was writing in an op ed about how strong the case is here,
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those could actually begin to have some sway or at least encourage people to read the indictment for themselves? >> well, i -- i am not myself that intimately familiar with the psychology of all of the trump supporters. it's really hard for me to believe that among his most loyal supporters, there are a number, there are 20, 25, 30% who can be appealed to by reason. the idea that -- it seems to me a lot of them were very supportive of bill barr precisely because bill barr did the worst things in the world in order to support donald trump. well, here's this person who did those things and who was practically the hero of the trump supporters for many, many months as attorney general, here he is standing up and condemning donald trump for the acts that were done here. hard for me to believe that
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there aren't some marginal number, i don't know, again, what the percentage is, but it will be significant if 10 or 15 or 20% of trump supporters are influenced by this. the. >> we have heard about them railing against institutions talking about what he would do if re-elected. >> well, i think they're very important and i think the rest of the charges will be coming for january 6th are even more important. of course they stand for the proposition that when a high official like anyone else does something terrible, not only crimes but very serious crimes that go to the heart of our national interest.
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>> and whether that respect is still there. the charges filed and they're comfortable on january 5th. >> i do. i absolutely do. >> against donald trump. >> i think so. i mean, again, i am not privy to all the evidence that they have, and there's always the possibility, although i think it's a small one, that somehow there are things that make it impossible to do that. but i think the attorney general, who has been unfairly attacked all manner of times by many people on the left and the right, i think the attorney general is forthright and solid on the need to hold people accountable. man, i believe he's going to play it absolutely straight and
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playing it straight i think here is going to mean that donald trump is -- you know, all the things in the hearings and on the hill showed donald trump is at the center of the entire movement for january 6th. he's the one that drove that whole process. you cannot fail to hold that person accountable and have a system of justice that deserves to be respected. it simply isn't possible. >> as we wait to see how that investigation plays out, before i let you go, i wonder what do you think the possibility is in the classified documents case here of some sort of a plea deal? >> well, i don't know. i mean, i think the government would take a plea, you know, a whole bunch of the charges. no doubt about that. you know, it's really about donald trump and, you know, he's forever playing every situation to his own pr advantage. and what is he going to perceive to be that? it's hard for me to imagine that he would agree to go to jail and it's hard for me to imagine that the government would plea the case without having him go to
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jail. so it seems unlikely to me. >> i really appreciate your perspective. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. right now officials are setting up alternate routes for morning commuters after a section of i-95 collapsed in philadelphia. we'll take you live over that overpass and we're continuing our ongoing coverage of the indictment of donald trump. stay with us. for not as good as mine. the e queen sleep number c2 smart bed is now only $899 save $200. plus, 48-month financing on a all beds. shshop now only at sleep number. for people w who are a little intense about hydration. neutrogena® hydro boost lightweight. clinically proven. 48-hour hyation. for that healthy skin glow. neutrogena®. for people with skin. (vo) if yo've had thyroid eye disease for years and the pain in thback of your eye is forcing bad words from your mouth, it's not too late for another treatment option. to learn more visit treatted.com.
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ray normal little brush fire and when i looked in my rear-view mirror, i see 95, all the cars stopping. i learned shortly after the road had just collapsed. >> now our special coverage of the indictment is continuing, but we want to take you to philadelphia now this morning where officials are scrambling to set up detours for morning commuters after a section of interstate 95 collapsed on sunday. it's a major artery for commuters and travelers that will create real travel problems for months to come. a portion of the crucial east coast highway was destroyed after a tanker truck caught
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fire. i want to turn to danny freeman live for us in philadelphia. i think everybody's stunned by the pictures and also how this actually happened. what are people -- what do people need to know as they try to get to work and travel up i-95 this morning? >> reporter: well, listen, the main message all government officials are trying to get to the public in terms of commuters and what they need to know, stay away from this area. i came from my home almost in south philly and it was a nightmare. there were huge trucks on small roads that really are not meant for that. the this whole area is clogged up because i-95 is still shut down in both directions. like you said though, there are still a lot of questions we don't have answers to. why and how this all started. i will tell you what we do know. basically yesterday morning, almost 24 hours ago on sunday morning, a tanker truck was underneath this part of i-95 behind me. it caught fire and then the northbound lanes over here in this section of i-95 collapsed
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on the ground right on top of that tanker. the southbound lanes the closest we are to, they also have been compromised. i've got to say, as far as what we know the truck is still trapped in that wreckage. crews have been sifting trying to take basically 500 tons of concrete mess off of the road and off of that truck to try and piece together what exactly happened here. we've been hearing that heavy mach machine machinery dig away for hours and hours. no injuries and that's a good thing. the governor said they are not sure if there was someone inside that truck when this collapse happened yesterday morning. take a listen to some of the things the governor said when he first laid eyes on this scene. >> remarkable devastation, and i found myself, you know, thanking the lord that no motorists who were on i-95 were injured or died. just a remarkably devastating
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sight, one that our first responders, law enforcement and others contained very, very quickly. they got people out of harm's way and now under leadership of secretary carol and others, the hard work of clearing this site, rebuilding it will be underway and we're going to move as quickly as possible. >> reporter: and of course that's pennsylvania governor josh shapiro. he said the cleanup could take some number of months, but he did say he's issued a disaster declaration to get some funds more quickly to fix this mess behind me. back to you. >> danny freeman, stick with us. we're going to be asking for updates throughout the course of the morning. thanks so much. former president trump wasting no time in rallying support following his indictment. how his competitors to the presidential nomination are reacting to that news. and this morning, more than 80 million people are under a severe storm threat from the central u.s. through the southeast and into the
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reading that indictment and looking at the selective omissions of both fact and law, dana, i'm even more convinced that a pardon is the right answer here. >> we shouldn't be promising and holding out the fig leaf of a pardon because that undermines our jury system. we don't need a commander in chief that disregards the nation's secrets. >> contenders for the republican presidential nomination really grappling and certainly finding different tones as they talk about the indictment from front-runner donald trump. they sat down with our colleague dana bash who joins us now and she is the new co-host of "inside politics" that starts at noon. these conversations were fascinating over the weekend and painted a picture of this divide that we see among the 2024 republican hopefuls.
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anything that really stood out to you or even surprised you in terms of those comments and those very clear lanes? >> reporter: well, surprised me these days? probably not. because we have seen the sort of precursor to the indictment with the comments from most of the 2024 candidates. that even those who like you heard vivek, he and the others, they are running against donald trump. they are competitors and yet they understand where the base is from which they need to get votes and it is not, for the most part, where asa hutchinson is. asa hutchinson is speaking as a traditional conservative, somebody who has governed both in the governor's mansion in arkansas and also in washington as an administration official during bush, and he is a more traditional kind of old school
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republican. and he's saying, wait a minute, guys. what are we doing? and if you just look at the polling, both just the horse race polling of where donald trump is and the polling on how people are consuming this and their reaction within the republican primary electorate, they are very sort of for giving of donald trump and dismissive of what is going on when it comes to where they want their vote to be. >> dana, i was watching with great interest your interview with ohio congressman jim jordan, long-time, very fervent defender of the president. i was taking notes on your back and forth and how you tried to probe on that. i want you to listen to some of the sound from yesterday. >> saying he -- >> there are classified documents in the bathroom, in a ballroom stage and classified information that he -- that we're talking about information that the united states shares with its allies, critical information strewn on the floor.
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does that look secure to you? >> again, dana, the standard is the standard. the president of the united states, he can classify and he can control access to national security information however he wants. the standard is what the constitution says and the commander in chief, the president of the united states has the ability to classify and control access to information. that's what the constitution -- >> he's not the president of the united states anymore. >> you can't obstruct when -- you can't -- >> he is not the president of the united states. >> that is the fundamental flaw. >> if you -- and you're just taking -- >> he can de -- >> i mean, it's a combative back and forth, because it always is, that's part of the discussion. what was your take away from that actual conversation with one of the closest allies the former president has? >> reporter: with one of the closest allies and let's be clear, he is the chairman of the house judiciary. he has a very big role on not
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just the house oversight but the entire legal system in america. i have to say in prepping for the discussion that i was having with chairman jordan, saying that the president -- former president had the right to have these documents was not on my bingo card. that was an argument that we had heard historically but not recently, particularly after we saw the indictment. and the fact that he made that argument over and over again despite the fact that donald trump is no longer the president, despite the fact that in the document -- more than once in the indictment document he is quoted as saying this is classified, basically you're not supposed to see this, effectively admitting that he's not supposed to have it and, by the way, he didn't declassify the document in particular that he was talking about in this anecdote before he left office, it just -- it just disproves the
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argument that -- that mr. jordan is making. i was very surprised about that because the supreme court case that he was citing was about sitting presidents and donald trump is not a sitting president. >> but, margaret, in many ways, right, to dana's point about his facts not adding up there, that doesn't matter. i mean, it does matter but what i'm talking about in terms of the defense that is often put out there by the former president's biggest supporters, it is not about looking to the facts to bolster your argument, and certainly not in this case. it's about being the loudest voice in the rooms and many times trying to distract you to some shiny facts over here whether it's about what aboutism and i'm going to say it loudly enough that people will believe me. >> the former president does have a playbook. we've seen the playbook used again and again and it does involve sort of getting ahead of your own defense the best you can, setting the narrative
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yourself, and rallying the troops. in this case the troops are jim jordan, the troops are also kevin mccarthy over a barrel with the right flank of his caucus because of the debt ceiling vote trying to hang on support, trying to gather enough republicans to have any votes to do the business of the house. and as long as the former president has a lock on his base, it's going to be very difficult for his gop rivals to take him on head on to challenge him. it's also going to be very difficult for them to find their own path to run around him. and i think when you're looking at ron desantis, many of the other republicans in the field, they have tried to offer themselves as an alternative to trump that's just not trump saying i'm all the stuff you like about trump and none of the baggage of trump and what the base is saying, we're okay with the baggage of donald trump right now. >> and i think you saw that in dahna's really strong interview with a republican rival, right? someone basically in a way, and i'm going to think of this in a
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higher up sort of media strategy way, it's let me say something sharp enough to put this reporter on their back foot. that's the clip everyone's going to play. me saying that i would, you know, pardon donald trump. they're not going to play the follow-up. they're not going to play any of the facts around the case, and that might be the only way this week to get any media support when you're one of those candidates who's down in the 2 and 3 and 4%. >> dana, one of my favorite things when they're crazy enough to let me sit in this chair is i can ask my good friends and reporters who i often text with and have conversations with, what they're actually hearing behind the scenes. when you talk to campaign officials and they're being candid, what are they saying? >> it's bad. it's bad. i mean, on its face it is bad. anybody who can read and has even the most basic understanding of the rule of law and of the legal system, it is
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bad on the legal front. on the political front, they are worried. they see the idea that the republican electorate is already kind of leaning towards distrusting the very institution that is involved in prosecuting him and the fact that donald trump is playing into that and is stoking that as he always does, and they realize that in the short term politically it is not good for their bosses, for their candidates, the aides in the campaigns who are his competitors. they admit it. which is -- again, i just have to say that it used to be that those two issues would dovetail. something that was bad legally would be bad politically, and the fact that we are in a scenario where the two things are at odds is not normal and it
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is very much about and is very much about trump and trumpism and the trump era. >> it's a good point. thank you so much, as always. and this is very important. you can see more of dana, in just a couple of hours. "inside politics" with dana bash, my good friend, colleague, and a wonderful, wonderful reporter premieres today at noon. you must be watching. we heard dana mention, we've been talking about, there is new information, there's new polling about how voters feel about the indictment. so what are they saying since this news broke? we're going to break that down for you, next. an spf-icianado if you will. my bottle of choice? neutrogena® ultltra sheer a lightweight blend that protects 6 layers deep with a smooth dry-touch finish. this round's on me. neutrogena® ultltra sheer the subway series is getting an upgrade! the new #19 the pickleball club. who knew the subway series could get even better? me, i knew. maybe you should host a commercial then.
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if they come to me, how do you stand this, and i usually look at them and say, in a sick way, i sort of enjoy it.
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because it exposes them -- it exposes them for what they are and it's also lifted the poll numbers to even higher lengths. have you seen this? the polls are through the roof and the fund-raising, small dollar fund-raising is setting records. >> now, the point about the numbers, donald trump may actually be right about that. new polling suggesting his supporters have not wavered one bit, despite this being his second indictment, potentially more to come. here to crunch those numbers is the one, the only, cnn senior data reporter, harry enten. harry, some immediate polls out in the field right after this happened. what are they telling us? >> they're showing exactly what the former president indicated, right? look, these are the top choices for gop nominee. this is cbs/ugov poll. in late april, look at where donald trump was. he was at 58% today. half of this poll was taken post that second indictment. 61%. nearly a 40-point advantage over his nearest appointment, ron desantis. and what is the polling say?
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should trump have been charged with a crime for the classified documents handling? look, when you look at the overall public, 48% say "yes." that's more than the 35% who say "no." look at the gop. just 16% say "yes" versus 67% who say "no." and that 16% that say "no," on the classified documents handling, should trump be charged with a crime, equal with that stormy daniels hush money case, 16%. that gop is locked in on saying, "no," trump should not have been charged with a crime. >> harry, you have some interesting numbers, to the just polling, but numbers in that indictment talking about, talking about where the documents were stored at mar-a-lago in terms of how many people were in that space over this number of months. >> take a look here. look. all about numbers. the fbi searched mar-a-lago on day about 565 after trump left office. that's a long period of time. how many people and how many events happened between january of 2021 and august of 2022? look at this, mar-a-lago hosted 10,000 plus people over 150
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events. so the number of people who are going through these halls when trump allegedly kept classified documents there after his presidency, a lot of folks, potentially. >> that is a lot. >> are you just jealous that you weren't one of them? >> you know what, i like to go on vacation. >> you could definitely get into the ballroom and bathroom, harry enten. great, as always. >> thanks, buddy. former president trump set to leave his new jersey golf club soon, head back down to florida for tomorrow's court appearance. we're going to take a closer look at the security preparations in miami. this, of course, all related to donald trump's historic indictment. stay with us. this is the lexus variety of electrification... inspired by, created for and powered by you. ♪ what's consisidered normal for your cat is interesting. but if your cat isn't ththeir quirky self lately, they may have pain from a common condition called osteoarthritis. now, there's solensia. solensia is a once-monthly injectio to control your cat's oa pain. veterinary professionals ministering solensia
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all of our citizens know that they're going to be able to express their first amendment rights and at the same time, we're going to keep them safe and make sure that there is no disorder. >> good monday morning, everyone. poppy is off today. i'm erica hill, alongside phil mattingly. it's nice to be with you on a big, big morning. start of a really important week. that, of course, is the mayor of miami just there. that city ramping up security as donald trump prepares to surrender himself on federal charges tomorrow. >> the former president will leave new jersey and fly down to miami and potentially just a couple of hours. we'll break down former president trump's plans for today and for tomorrow and what he's saying about the historic indictment against him. >> plus, trump's former national security adviser john bolton is going to join us live to weigh in on these very serious allegations against his former boss. his take on what those mean, too, in terms of national security. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now

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