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the fbi. >> police have ramped up security as violent rhetoric swirls online. we will speak to the police chief in doral. trump is staying at his resort there and preparing to head to the courthouse. >> we are learning the former president is searching for another attorney in florida to beef up his legal team and pushing for an aggressive approach. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. ♪ >> we are about to witness an unprecedented moment in american history. it's never happened before. huge day ahead. >> yeah, i feel like there is always hyperbole, it can be possible sometimes. not this. this is unprecedented in every way. >> that's right. you are looking at the courthouse. live images of the federal courthouse in miami, florida, where former president trump will turn himself in this afternoon on federal charges. right now he is at his golf resort nearby in doral. he is vowing to fight these charges.
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he has said he will enter a not guilty plea. these are new images of police in riot gear outside the courthouse. trump called on supporters to show up and protest peacefully. >> the former president is facing 37 felony counts including obstruction, conspirac conspiracy. containing some of the nation's most sensitive secrets, including details from america's nuclear program and allegedly kept them in places like a bathroom and a shower. behind the scenes his legal team has been scrambling to find lawyers in florida to represent him. special counsel jack smith also beefing up his team. he added at least two prosecutors from the u.s. attorney's office in miami. we have all this covered with our team coverage throughout the our. scott jennings, van jones, laura coats and john miller, kaitlan collins in miami and kaitlan, it's a couple of hours into the
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day. so you, obviously, have new reporting already. what do you know at this moment? >> reporter: we know that we are not going to see any new faces with the former president as he arrives to the courthouse in miami this afternoon. he was on the phone all day yesterday and has been making calls for the last week trying to add a new florida-based attorney to his team. of course, given? where he is facing these federal charges that you laid out there. but we are told no one new has been added as of this moment. they have been trying to do so. they were hoping to do so by today. it wasn't seen as a hard deadline. the two attorneys you will see with former president trump today when he comes to court are todd blanch and chris -- todd has been on the legal team since april. chris kise was brought on last fall but was quickly sidelined with that matter. the dynamic has changed. two of the top attorneys
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resigned abruptly last week when they heard trump was looking to bring in a florida-based attorney. but we do know what the scene will be like here today. we may not see trump going into the courthouse today like we did in new york. that's because of how they are structuring the security and how he is going to be brought in. once he is in there, he will be arraigned on these charges that he is facing, 37-count indictment that is with unveiled last week. trump himself is at his club in doral. he had dinner last night with several of his aides, including the two attorneys who are going to be in the courtroom with him today. he will be uttering those words, not guilty, for the second time in a matter of months and this comes as the big question is what happens after this. once they have the next court date, with which we expect will be in front of that trump-appointed judge, judge aileen cannon. >> one question i had on this, some are pointing out that todd blanch doesn't have a lot of expertise. a seasoned lawyer, but not a lot
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are expertise with the pappa rodger pappa rhe is page act. what about chris kise? >> it's very specific type of knowledge that they need. todd blanch has a good reputation as an attorney. that's why trump brought him on in april. taking the lead of this defense it comes to this. he will be taking this to trial based on what we know now of course. it's trump's legal team so there is always drama added to that. they were sefrpging for someone with that knowledge. based on what you heard and of course these things are fluid as they often are with the former president it's not clear that chris kise will be handling this in the long term. he has been trying to help find that new florida-based attorney to be a part of this. whether or not he ultimately does remains to be seen of course. kise is the former attorney general for the state of florida. and so that is a very kind of specific type of knowledge that they need to add to this legal
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team. it is a big case. it is something that would draw the attention and be attractive to attorneys because of how monumental this case is going to be. as we know, trump has trouble getting attorneys not only when it comes to paying them, but when this comes to taking their advice. read this indictment and you can see how he went in great lengths according to prosecutors to mislead his other attorney who was on this days previously until he became a witness evan corcoran, moving boxes around when he went to the storage room to look for classified documents. they took about 60 boxes up to trump's residence and only brought about 30 back with him. of course, the person who did that was walt nauta, and he traveled down here with the former president for this trip to miami before he heads back to new jersey tonight. >> stay with us. we will be checking in with more of your scoop. things are fluid. the kaitlan collins story of covering the former president. joining us to explain with the security and preparations ahead of today's historic arraignment,
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the police chief. sir, thanks so much for taking the time. i think one of the things everybody is trying to figure out from our kind of law enforcement reporting side is the miami mayor, miami police chief are very confident based on what they said yesterday on kind of the dynamics of things to be able to handle whatever happens today, do you share that confidence? >> absolutely. i mean, in sosouth florida we w collaboratively in combatting any potential that we have. we have been on the scene here at the trump in doral for quite some time and monitoring the situation. to this point the crowds have been calm. we have seen no more than 80 to 100 people at a single time. overnight was quiet. and our law enforcement officers remain on scene to ensure the safety and security of our folks in the area. >> this is not your jurisdiction where the president will show up
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for court today, but i want to show our viewers some images of the tape and the plastic barriers and things that have been put up already in miami. and just ask you your perspective as the chief of police if you think that is sufficient for what may come today. >> absolutely. i have full confidence in chief morales and the miami police department. we work together here on a daily basis. we have 30 police departments here in miami-dade county as a whole and i know the operation that they run. it's not them alone. there is local, state and federal agencies assisting in the process and the plan is in place. god forepibid that any incident occurs that jeopardizes that. it should be thorough in terms of safety and security and we expect law enforcement and anyone vissing their opinion to act accordingly. >> you mentioned that it's
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federal, state, it's local. you are dealing with this, obviously. there is going to be secret service present. down in doral, state and federal, i assume, in that jurisdiction an area of, your area right now. what is working with them like? where are there areas of tension and where are there areas where there is clear cooperation? >> there has been very minimal tension in terms of any demonstrators either pro or anti-trump. there was a few, you know, discussions yesterday, small crowd of less than ten anti-trump supporters actually showed up on scene yesterday. but our law enforcement officers were there just ensuring the safety and security that everyone maintain the peace while letting everyone exercise their first amendment rights. so, yes, we are on the scene. yes, it is a hot and heavy topic, but we haven't seen anything that would jeopardize the safety of anyone involved. >> all right.
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hope it stays that way. doral police chief, thank you, sir. >> chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller, chief legal analyst and former federal prosecutor laura coats, cnn political commentators van jones. good morning. laura, as someone who has been a federal prosecutor, talk to us about what we're looking at today. >> it's going to be a moment that's going to be maybe a humbling thing for the former president of the united states. secret service, he has a lot of protections that the average defendant never receives. the idea of protesters possibly gathering to support him. but you have an arraignment. you have somebody who will be read dozens of charges. federal charges that have up to 20 years in some context for these cases. you have got the humbling experience of knowing that your calls and asks to be treated just like everyone else and not the alleged persecution, you are about to get it and that includes no really favors being given to you. you have the presumption of
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innocence, of course. you will have a judge -- you are able to plead and say not guilty, all those things. at the end of the day the significance could not be overstated. you have a former head of the executive branch of the united states government whose job it is to faithfully execute and enforce the laws being called to account for the alleged violation of them. that is so significant. in this country and worldwide. >> john, i want to ask you, our colleague christian holmes sent in reporting, watt nauta, the other indicted individual in this particular case, has been traveling with the president at campaign stops, now reporting he had dinner with the president last night, pretty much by his side continuously, what do you make of his indictment and his role kind of in this case as we really enter it being a reality now? >> walt is a key figure here because if you read the indictment, the narrative is president trump was actively moving this material for the
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purpose of concealing it from the national archive, from the fbi, from subpoenas, from searches, and walt nauta is his co-conspirator. the interesting thing is that if you're a walt nauta going into a case, your defense is going to be i don't know anything about that, but when the former president, my boss, tells me to move boxes, i move boxes. i wasn't part of any conspiracy. there is going to be a moment of truth that's going to come sooner or later where walt nauta has to make the decision do i stay with donald trump as his codefendant in this trial or do i get a lawyer who is not part of the trump defense team and ask the judge to be severed because i would like to be tried separately because our interests have split here. that hasn't happened. that may never happen. but that will be a pivotal moment if it comes around. >> i know earlier our colleague, there was a rooster behind her,
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this is not a game of chicken where they say, hey, i am going to charge you as a defendant, walt nauta, and i hope you come around and be flipped here. when they charge the case a prosec prosecutor you are not charging with an eye towards maybe coaxing you to come over and see the quote unquote light. that should have already happened. one of the reasons you have him charged is it would not happen. remember in the indictment you have a person called trump employee number two. which means that there is some corroboration that says i saw what you were doing, i have told either a grand jury or otherwise and that could be enough to avoid having to say, look, if you don't flip, i got you on the hook. don't be fooled by the conversations around trying to go for bigger fish. when you charge them, you charged him. >> so glad you pointed out that. this indictment reads like they don't need a flip. for the argument that they are making. then now the trump team will present their side of all of this.
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van jones, you're a lawyer. looking at the big picture, you always help us see why this matters for the country. here you have a, you know, fight for the core of what the judicial system stands for in this country against not only a former president, but a frontrunner for president, the republican party who wants to completely undo that system as we know it. >> it's a big dilemma for the prosecutor engineered by donald trump. there is no accident that he running for president and he is being charged with this stuff. the question people have to ask is this is a terrible -- you are creating a precedent here and this precedent could be that every president proouts --? terrible. okay. nobody wants that. what's the other precedent? it's once you have been president you got a license to steal. you got a license to steal documents, to flaunt them, put them in the bathroom. national security documents just lying around in ballrooms. hey, why? i am a former president.
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i have a license to steal. we don't like kids running to cbs and stealing stuff. i don't want the former president stealing stuff. he has engineered a crisis and if you are the prosecutor -- by the way, if you talk to anybody, your family, your friends, who has an opinion who has not read the indictment, you haven't read this, you can't talk about it. once you read, it makes sense -- >> it's 49 pages, double spaced. people should read it. >> once you read and you got national security documents in the toilet, you might think maybe somebody should do something about this. >> i agree with you that we are here because donald trump put us here. all he had to do was give them back. >> such a critical point. none of the 31 charges related to documents were from anything except what was taken during the church. he had opportunities month, year and a half before and to give them back. >> there is no motive for keeping them other than he wanted to re-create the why he
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was the president -- >> did you say mine? >> mine, i mean mine. >> yes, i mean mine, mine. >> i am thinking my 5-year-old would say mine. >> there we go. we are off track. >> sure. but the average republican will look at this and say, you know, he beat the mueller thing. he beat two impeachments. this joke going on in new york. this is donald trump's lot in life to be persecute bid the democrats. i agree with van. you read this indictment and even if you think, man, he should not be charged, former president should get some protection, still the national security implications of these documents being left laying around. i think they have admitted there were at least two chinese nationals that have come through mar-a-lago. >> in that time period. >> yeah. >> i mean, if you look at the headlines of the documents, nuclear weaponry, you know, where our troops could be, what we are doing in other countries, there are military families with
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family members and children operating overseas. and so to me there is a larger level of responsibility given to the president since he was the commander and chief and you have that responsibility to the military. if you say we shouldn't -- like mike pence, it's divisive, we shouldn't have a criminal -- if you believe that, what are the national security implications of a former commander-in-chief who seeks it again -- >> won't say i'm sorry, won't say -- what are you supposed to do? honestly, if you love donald trump, great. you can love your uncle but realize he shouldn't be driving cars. he shouldn't be able to get away with stuff and be president of the united states again. >> a lot of his supporters won't believe it because the trust in the justice department, the trust in the fbi, they are going to believe that just like everything else about him in their mind, this is fabricated, overblown, exaggerated, apply your adjective.
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so that's how they are going to see it until this process comes to a conclusion and based on what i'm reading it could take a long time. >> that would be a hard time for the prosecutors because on the one hand you want to have meat on the bone about the substance of those documents and you are going to want to withhold if you are the agencies the nature of these documents. but then it's a catch-22. if i show out documents and let you know, jurors, what this is, what's the talking point? you showed jurors. it can't be that big of a deal. it will be very, very choreographed. >> there is a fix for that. we have been down this road before in other classified documents cases which is there are top-secret documents that went from secret to top secret because of one word or one name that, you know, in that category. you sit down with the intelligence community. you take the 31 they picked which is a small percentage of the classified documents and they say what do we need to redact or take out from this document so that the jury can get the sum and substance and yet for the nsa, the cia, nga,
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protect the sources it that gave it to you or the methods that allowed you to collect it and they could be able to get there. but we have all the ancillary problems. donald trump doesn't have a main lawyer admitted in florida. he doesn't have any lawyer cleared for these documents. so the hoops they have to jump through -- >> i mean, he will. >> he will. >> are complicated -- >> and that will craft a defense which we haven't heard yet which is a critical -- >> his best defense is getting elected president of the united states. >> then he wipes out the investigation? >> very difficult to try the president of the united states for anything, right? >> he can't be tried. >> he can also, just, you know, tell his a.g. -- >> if he is the president -- >> that's what i'm saying. >> purdue sue it -- >> technically told. practical implications, yes. >> look at, you know, keying off scott's point, you know, this case comes from the fbi, who the
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director chris wray was appointed by president trump, a special prosecutor who they brought in from outside of the country where he was working for years in the world court. his own former attorney, bill barr, said i read the indictment and this is a real case. >> alan dershowitz even over the weekend. >> and a trump-appointed judge. >> so the whole world isn't stacked against him. it's about his actions. >> stay with us. there is a lot are more to get into. as the former president prepares to surrender in miami we will speak to one of his staunchest supporters on capitol hill, byron donald of florida. pete buttigieg is set to visit the site of that fiery truck crash that made part of i-95 collapse in philadelphia. we will have the latest details on that ahead. stay with us. for people who are a little intense about hydration.
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well, they are very serious allegations. and the burden of proof for the justice department will be high. i think there are a lot of people across the country that have skepticism about the standards of justice and how they are applied and wanting to make sure that they are applied equally. >> obstructed this investigation, made false statements to prosecutors. does that worry you? >> i don't think about that now. eventually, they, obviously, got what they wanted. i don't know whether they obstructed or not. >> i wouldn't be pulling out the drapes and curtains for a new fbi building right now. >> the former president is about it be arraigned on 37 federal counts related to his alleged mishandling of classified documents and his alleged scheme to conceal them from investigators. his republican allies are coming to his defense.
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byron donald is among them. he argues trump is being treated unfairly, tweeting this is turning lady justice on its made and is the nest significant threat to our democracy. congressman, i i want to start with you have said repeatedly you read the indictment. do you feel like this case when you look at the specifics of those 40 plus pages just isn't there on the merits or is there some element of this that has you so opposed to it? >> well, good to be with you. a couple of things. one, an indictment is a one-handed account from the prosecutor. if you look at the history of jack smith, he did a railroad job on bob mcdonald, the former governor of virginia that was overturned by the supreme court. he did the same thing in another case. high-profile, overturned. i am reading his account of what's happened and not look at his track record, it's dubious to begin with.
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number two, if you want to talk about some of the aspects of obstruction, you've got to understand that under the presidential records act the president does have authority for a five-year period to dictate what actually goes back to the national archives. his attorneys were going back and forth with the national archives. number three, somebody said they wanted to go to the department of justice. the department of justice had to get a signoff with the white house counsel before this could be started. so do i look at this very dubious when, by the way, i know being a member of the oversight committee that joe biden, that there are major allegations that he took $5 million from burisma? yeah, i am very skeptical of this indictment. >> understood. i want to start with your point number two here. presidential records agent never mentioned in the indictment. there is nothing about personal records here. the indictment is based on 31 documents that the purview of agency they come from agency documents and no matter what the president says or does once he
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leaves office this would not fall under the pra in any way, shape or form. so i guess what i'm asking about here is these specific documents that are national security information that come from specific agencies and are not personal records ever the president, why do you feel like those were his -- not only just to take with him, but then repeatedly keep from prosecutors and the fbi when they asked for them repeatedly? >> two things. you say the word repeatedly. we don't know that. because you weren't involved in those negotiations with his attorneys and neither do i. that's an accusation from jack smith. a couple of things on this piece. the president took the documents when he left the white house according to wide reporting his attorneys reviewed the boxes when they left the white house on their way to mar-a-lago. the president's attorneys were in negotiations with the national archives about what was there and reviewing documents. the reason that the presidential records act is important because the president has the ability to review the records for up to five years.
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and has broad latitude to review them. the reason why they never bring up the presidential records act in the indictment in my view is because if you put that in the contention of what they are trying to charge him with, the espionage act, looks plain ridiculous. last point on this. the president of the united states, and even former presidents of the united states, they were the executive branch. to charge them with a violation of the espionage act there is an extremely high bar to do that and it's not clear if jack smith has that. like i said, look at his track record when he charged other political officials and it didn't cut mustard. >> one of the points that you made there, even if you stipulate search of them, the president was only charged related to documents that came after the search of his mar-a-lago residence. everything else before that time, and there were hundreds of documents that the 15 boxes it that his attorneys had turned over, other documents that had been turned over before and
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after that, were not charged. there was nothing in the indictment related to those which seems to make the implication had he just given these back, there would not have been an indictment or at least not an indictment tied to what we have seen in these 40 plus pages. do you see -- like is that something that you would agree where? is that is a stipulation that's fair? this only came -- you say it's speculation that these were negotiations that were occurring. no. i mean, i think it's well documented both on letters from attorneys, letters from nar ra and on this title voluntary handed back even after some of those negotiations. >> look, what i had tell you is, again, i was not in the room with his attorneys when they were doing this. he and nara are going back and forth. nara decided in a first time of its existence dealing with a former president that they wanted to bring the department of justice into this and the white house counsel had to sign off on this.
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one other point. you guys are throwing up the pictures about they were in a bathroom or on a stage. as somebody who has been to mar-a-lago, you can't walk through mar-a-lago of your own accord because secret service is all over the place. so if the documents are in a place, they are in a room, depending on the time of year, you can't even get into said room. there are 33 bathrooms at mar-a-lago. so don't act like it's in some random bathroom that the guests can go into. that's not true. when you look at this information and you look at what's come down in the indictment, an indictment is a one-sided argument from the prosecution. the president and his team is going to have an opportunity to respond to this. and actually in looking at the indictment, one of the things you also have to understand is that there is a lot of context issues here. the context you are getting directly from jack smith and deciding on what he thinks is relevant or not of. until the legal proceedings happen, you can't go through that. adds as a broader perspective, what you see is a political
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prosecution of donald trump because former officials of our government who did not have declassification ability and were not the head of the executive branch, they did significantly worse things with material and classified document material and the department of justice previous iterations just basically turned a blind eye and moved down the road and that is why the american people look at this, they think it's disgusting and they think it's a two-tiered justice system simply to go after president trump. >> your view and i think the view that reflects what i think scott jennings made clear a lot of republicans feel based on what they have seen. i think these are very different -- >> no, no, no. not feel. it's not feel. understand this. it is not feel. that is a fact. >> all right. let's -- >> the oversight committee, hillary clinton destroyed them. joe biden took classified document material as a united states senator. a united states congressman.
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i am not allowed to remove classified documents. he took them as a united states senator. they were all over the place. that is a violation, actually of the espionage act. and so there has been no talk, no dissemination, no investigation of any of those things. -- >> i am going to interrupt you. >> those are the facts. >> ythere is a special counsel investigation into the current president and his handling of documents. i think if you want to look at the differences from what we know now and you have made this point in the past and it's fair we don't know what is going on with the special counsel's investigation but we know that the president -- the current president appeared to have voluntarily turned over documents which i think is a pretty stark difference in this case specifically. but i also think when you mention that the clinton case, the president is literally quoted in the indictment saying that he appreciated that the lawyer -- hillary clinton's lawyer deleted the 30,000 emails or made an effort to and she didn't get in trouble because he said that and he was the one who
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deleted them and basically said that that was a good thing and that was helpful to some degree. >> look, let me respond in this way. you have a situation here where now it's apparently this audio that's being talked about that, frankly, this audio transcript, let me say this, that's being leaked from the department of justice. that's not being leaked from anybody else. by the way, last time i checked, leaking information in a criminal probe, that is also a violation of the law. so that stuff is being leaked to the press. cpr, you picked it up first and it's gone on from there. i don't know the context of that audio. even in this conversation, i don't know the context because a indictment is a one-sided argument. that's all it is. that's whey you have a full proceeding in front of a judge where defense counsel gets to about go back and forth. f from a political perspective they are saying well damn if you are donald trump they are going to get you for anything, but if
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you are hillary clinton or joe biden, they are going to investigate very, very slowly and let's see where it actually ends up. that is not good for the u.p.s. -- united states of america. >> it's a very important one, that the defense has not laid out their response in detail or in court and they certainly will have that opportunity. thanks so much, sir. >> thank you. >> let's bring in in our experts. laura, what do you want to respond to first? >> well, number one, there is no grace period. i heard this argument before about the presidential records act or that a president has time to sort of go through all the paperwork. when the clock strikes midnight it turns into a pumpkin. you are supposed to deal with that before you leave often for good reason. you have a transition period. number two, the department of justice has assigned the role of this prosecution to the special counsel. they don't have to go back to
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the white houscounsel or any co with president biden's office or the white house counsel on this issue to decide what to do next. that would essentially be saying and confirming this is some political probe. jack smith's entire role is to make sure tloos not just a ten foot pole but a long pole and total accept from what the-- separation from what they are doing. perception is king. you have to grapple with what this prosecution team has to confront and that is there is the indictment, there is the singular focus of what the allegations are with respect to donald trump, but hillary clinton will be a part of this conversation. you will have joe biden as a part of the conversation. mike pence as a part of the conversation. the distinction will have to be what was the reaction and behavior of those different entities when they were told specifically in no uncertain terms under the law or otherwise you are not authorized to have
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these documents, we want them back. who doubled down and who chose not to and what impact should that have? >> if you are a u.s. congressperson and you are saying there are top-secret documents hidden in a bathroom but the bathroom is hard to get in, you are far down the rabbit hole. this is invasion of the body snatchers. you have a republican congressperson who doesn't care about u.s. service people possibly being put in harm's way, doesn't care that methods and means and fortunes may be j jeopardized. doesn't care. that i think is the problem that we have. everything that he said avoided the fundamental fact that he would not as a congressperson keep top-secret documents in his restroom no matter who was guarding the restroom and he knows that. this is what we're dealing with. >> scott, you got most notesnd i
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see you nodding out of the corner of my eye. what was your ftakeaway? >> i think the congressman is making one of the more coherent push back you would hear from republicans. i have seen a lot of people op tv. i think he captured the republican zeitgeist right now. there is a different between legal exoneration and political exoneration. he is prosecuting the case for a political exoneration. the concerns about jack smith, true on the bob mcdonald case and a lot of republicans have been mad about that case for a long time. number tonight he talked about the fact that there is no trust with a one-sided argument. i mean, if you talk to the average republican right now, if you said, hey, the justice department says this or the fbi says that, immediately they are going to say, oh, well, consider the source. there is just no trust. and when he is saying it's a one-sided argument and you don't know everything that donald trump might say, that's going to give a lot of republicans something to hang their hat on.
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why aris that important? because it may be forever for them to get to trial to put on a defense. the public perception is so vital because it protects them from having to deal with the facts of what is in the actual indictment. i think you will continue to hear attacks on jack smith. i am hearing that ramp up more and more. and donald is one of the leading surrogates for donald trump, i expect to see him out there more and more. if that conversation you had, that is the exact conversation you would have with a republican on any random street corner of middle america right now. >> i think there is a reason for that. we have heard that conversation from other republican leaders. these are set talking points. think there is two things notable in what we heard because i have heard them before, which is, one, it was a factual misstatement of what the presidential records act says to everybody that we've advised this morning to go read the 49-page indictment, i say go
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read the presidential records act. google it. it's right there. it doesn't say that. it is actually crystal clear, which is the president's records at the stroke of 12 noon when the new president is sworn in becomes the property of the government and there is no license to have two years to kind of go through them. that doesn't exist. the second part is the biden/pence comparison they had classified documents. the core of this case, if you read the indictment, is the obstructive efforts to hide, conceal and thwart the ability to enforce the national archives' abilities to get the records back, and this is way more simple than we make it out to be. >> stay with us. we have a lot more ahead, guys. thank you very much for weighing in on that. this just in. we are getting new information on the economy, on inflation. we have been talking about the numbers. we h we have them. we will bring them to you next. e to cut the damage. we tried dove instead.
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inflation. the consumer price index has been released and our chief business correspondent christine romans is here. is it good? >> it's good. what families are paying for things. up 4% in may from last year, 4%. that is 11 months in a row of cooling prices that you can call this significantly cooling price pressures here. month-over-month up just 0.1%. that is a two-year low for inflation, that inflation reading, right? this is an important milestone to get back in that down to #%. when you look at the trend, you can see that inflation has been cut in half from that 40-year high of 9.1% last summer. 11 months in a row of a decline in inflation pressures. where are people paying more? shelter, used cars and trucks were the two biggest categories. this is still, guys, by the way, the feds would like to see 2%. this gives the fed some room to pause potentially.
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that's what lot of economists think, fed will pause and not raise interest rates this beak as they wait to see if it's starting to cool the inflation story, guys. >> thank you very much. all right. hours from now donald trump is set to turn himself in in federal criminal charges in miami. our teams are standing outside the courthouse as officials prepare. cnn special coverage begins at 1:00 p.m. stick with us. we'll be right back. g, and a personalized plan ♪ to guiuide you through a changing world. ♪
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it's a child. >> completely self-centered. completely self-consumed. doesn't give a damn about the american people, in my view. >> that is 2024 republican presidential hopeful chris christie slamming donald trump ahead of his federal court appearance today. the former new jersey governor unleashed at a cnn town hall last night. he is one of the few republican contenders for the white house who is railing against the former president unequivocally over his alleged mishandling of his documents. nikki haley starting to change her tune. she tweeted this is not how justice should be pursued in our crew. yesterday on fox notes, after the indictment was unsealed for everyone to read, here she was. >> if this indictment is true, if what it says is actually the case, president trump was incredibly reckless with our national security.
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>> senator tim scott also walking a finer line. >> what we've seen over the last several years is the weaponization of the department of justice against a former president. this case is a serious case with serious allegations, but in america you are still innocent until proven guilty. >> our panel back in. you know, twitter is not real life and i am not saying it is, it that the political reporters and operative world kind of started buzzing a lot when nikki haley's comments first came out. tim scott again walking a little bit of a finer line. is this a strategic shift? is this a, wow, we read the indictment, maybe we need to chill a lib about our defense? >> i think tim scott, i don't think he walked anything back. innocent until proven guilty --
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>> he walking the line between this is bad and i am not going to -- >> and haley has a reputation for occasionally trying to have, you know, issues both ways. so i wasn't -- >> every now and again? >> but i do think that if you're sitting that low in a primary, she and others are down that low, you might be looking for something. doesn't do you any good to go on television like on our cnn town hall and take a strong national security line, which she did, and turn around and wave away the national security implications, these documents like it's no big deal. so there is an incongruity there. maybe she was trying to repair that a little bit. some of these candidates have been essentially serving as donald trump's shield or press secretary or shield when these happen. chris christie said this last night. i am not sure how you win if that's your position. if i want to vote for somebody defending donald trump, i will vote for donald trump. he is in the race and i ain't
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going anywhere. i think will there may be some realization for that. is there any audience for that? i don't think anything changed for trump op indictment in the short term. i don't think any republicans are peeling out of the driveway just yet. and there is more, you know, there is more road to run here. but i don't know where she -- i don't know. >> it's okay to say that, by the way, on television, i don't know. >> i thought chris christie last night was a breath of fresh air. in some ways -- and not just because of the stuff he was talking about donald trump. he is getting a lot of attention to that. he he was like a safe harbor for sanity in american politics last night. and i hope people go back and look at it. he talked about, you know, american foreign policy. he seemed to be carving out a position that wasn't just anti-trump. it was kind of pro-sanity. i think if he gets a better hearing, he might do well enough to get into a debate, which i
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think is important. the other folks who are ducking and diving and trying to figure out ways -- compared to chris christie they look cowardly. and one thing that republicans respect is strength and authenticity. chris christie did that last night. >> his argument was pro-institution. he believed in the integrity of the department of justice, of prosecutions, of jurors. this was a grand jury indicted case out of florida. it underfimines that it's jack smith going alone. you have to have a grand jury to do so. he made the case for you can walk and chew gum at the same time. i've been critical of our justice system that can be a legal system than a justice system. >> people should read "just pursuit." >> thank you so much.
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talk about the justice department, the favorable view. in 2015, democrats like the justice department. republicans didn't. we go to now, the numbers stay the same. they didn't like it under a democratic president. they don't like it now. but those voters are emblematic about how republicans feel about the agencies. >> you dug into numbers on other agencies or institutions that will have a role in what's happening next. what did you find? >> okay. >> a judicial branch. a great deal of trust. back in 2015, democrats were very favorable towards the judicial branch than republicans, 66% to 42%. jump to 2022. look how much more favorable republicans are. 66% have a greater amount of trust, versus 25% of democrats. and the cia. democrats and republicans about
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the same in 2015. today, republicans far lower. just 37% caompared to 54%. >> thank you very much. live pictures out of miami. this is the line outside of federal courthouse where donald trump will be arraigned for the first time in history. special live coverage continues all day on cnn. not an injection cibinqo is a once-daily pill for those who didn't respond to past treatments. and it's proven to help provide clearer skin and relieve itch fast. once-daily cibinqo proactively treats eczema, whether you're flaring or not. cibinqo can lower your ability to fight infections including tb. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections and do blood tests. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b or c, have flu-like symptoms, or are prone to infections.
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