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we are just moments away from finding out whether fed chair jerome powell will hit the pause button after ten straight interest rates hikes, given how far inflation has fallen. we will tell you how this could make your life just a little bit easier. >> yes, please. and while there have been warnings that artificial intelligence could cause global extinction, it's also allowing the beatles to come together one more time. paul mccartney says a new song will be released. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn
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"news central." ♪ breaking news. the chairman of the federal reserve is announcing a decision over whether to raise interest rates an 11th straight time. joining us now is cnn chief business correspondent christine romans and also with us cnn economics and political commentator catherine rampell. christine, what is the news from the fed chair? >> well, the fed not moving here for the first time in a long time, the fed is not raising interest rates. you know, there have been ten rate hikes in a very aggressive rate hike campaign that has been under way but the fed pausing noting that recent indicators suggest economic activity is expanding at a modest pace, job gains have been owe bust but inflation remains elevated. the last numbers we have received have shown cooling on the inflation front. this is a fed that is pausing,
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going to assess all of that rate hiking that's already in the system to see how it's working. >> there was some question as to whether or not this was a pause or a skip. at the end of the day it means that interest rates are not moving. what does this stay to you? >> well, yes, this means that at this particular meeting they are not raising interest rates further after those previous ten consecutive rate hikes. that does not necessarily mean that we are done with raising interest rates for this cycle. in fact, if inflation numbers continue to come in hotter than the federal reserve has been comfortable with, we could see further interest rate hikes later this year. and the projections have actually just come out, i'm looking at the numbers. it looks like they are actually projecting that the federal funds rate will be a little bit higher through the end of this year. the federal funds rate is the main interest rate that we're talking about than they had projected a few months ago. so that suggests that they do
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think that they have more work to do, even if for the time being they are letting things be. but, again, it really depends on how the data come in, it depends on whether we see continued elevated price growth and if we see the labor market holding up. >> christine, to you, the markets are now responding to this. the dow down about 280-ish points, 288 points. it's been down most of the day. what do you make of this? >> and we should note that stocks had been sitting near one-year highs here. among other things on the hopes that the fed would pause. katherine is absolutely right, when you look inside the numbers you can see that the fed and some members are saying they'd like to see four more rate hikes when you look within what fed members are saying. you have a fed that is likely to have more rate hiking in the months ahead. now, remember, the fed has been hiking rates for 15 months, right, except for today and in that time more than 4 million jobs have been created, the unemployment rate has fall ton
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3.5%, backed off that a little more recently, the housing market is starting to pick up and shown resilience and the stock market is near a one-year high. there are those who are saying that maybe the fed needs to continue to tap the brakes to make sure this economy doesn't overheat and we do have inflation starting to get under control. >> what does this mean in the short term for consumers? >> in the short term this means that you probably won't see rates going up for things like mortgages, car loans, credit card payments or at least not as quickly as we've seen over the past a little over a year as the fed has each meeting -- in prior meetings, since march of 2022, has been raising rates. so, you know, it's not exactly a one to one transmission that when the fed raises the fed funds rate that that means, you know, mortgage rates go up by an equivalent amount but it looks likely that in the very near term you won't see much of a change. now, again, that doesn't mean we
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are out of the woods yet with inflation or with rate hikes. it could be -- it could very well be that later this year you will continue to see interest rates going up and, again, that when the fed pulls the lever on the fed funds rate usually that has some consequences for consumers for those other kinds of financing products that they buy. consumers and businesses for that matter. it becomes more expensive for businesses to borrow, for builders to borrow to build homes, et cetera. so, you know, it's very hard to say whether at the end of this year we will see a lot higher rate hike -- excuse me, a lot higher interest rates or potentially lower interest rates. again, the fed is projecting that they will continue to raise rates but if we do see weakness in the economy they may decide to continue pausing or ultimately reverse course. i know that there are a number of people in the markets, investors, who have been betting on a recession later this year potentially causing the fed to not only stop raising rates, but
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to potentially cut them. now, you know, i hope we don't end up in that state of the world. obviously the fed is not predicting it overall but it's still a possibility. >> and, christine, there was one more thing that caught your eye. >> yeah, i'm seeing here that the fed has upgraded its expectations for gdp saying the economy is going to be stronger this year than we had thought. overall growth this year of 1%. in it's march projection it had only a 0.4% number. in 2024 it's looking pretty much the same at 1.1%, but that would say that the recession watch that has been unending the fed is now saying it looks like growth is still going to hold in there in a positive for this year and, again, that is what gives it room for more rate hikes later this year if it needs to do that. >> that ongoing recession watch that we've been on now for like a year and a half, right? i just want to point out very quickly the longest in history -- i just want to point out very quickly as we've been speaking the dow dropping
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another 70 points or so christine romans, catherine ram rampell, appreciate the perspective. thanks so much. brianna. attorney general merrick garland making his first public comments since the historic arraignment of former president donald trump. he didn't address the charges specifically, maybe not surprising. he did push back and defend the special counsel against attacks. here it is. >> as i said when i poappointed mr. smith i did so because it underscores the justice department's commitment to both independence and accountability. mr. smith is a veteran career prosecutor, he has assembled a group who experienced and talented prosecutors and agents who share his commitment to integrity and the rule of law. >> also racking up the dough
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after rolling out of federal court. one of the biggest questions following former president trump's historic federal arraignment is how would republicans respond. we now have the new stunning fundraising numbers. we are going to bring those to you any moment. first, though, let's bring in cnn's katelyn polantz, she is in miami for us. we know that walt nauta, his co-defendant here is going to be arraigned in two weeks, kate katelyn. what are we learning about what is next in this case? >> reporter: there is that arraignment, that formality where walt nauta also accused of obstruction of justice has to formally tell the cord he pleads not guilty to get this case moving towards trial. one of the things that's going to be happening almost immediately is the justice department has to come up with a list of witnesses. they said they didn't have one yet, but they are going to have a list of witnesses whom donald trump will not be able to speak to about the details of this case. that's part of his bond
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condition, and also walt nauta's bond condition as well. they can't speak to each other about the case, either. one of the things about that, in speaking to what merrick garland the attorney general also is saying today, is that garland talks about the independence of the special counsel and the independence of the justice department. this special counsel is set up as a mechanism, as the prosecutors to have a little bit more distance from the administration, the biden administration, and also now that this case is in court as of yesterday, there's the judiciary, the entire federal court system, which is a whole other branch of government that is going to be keeping tabs on this case, what donald trump does as he is awaiting trial, what he says, especially when he's communicating to people working around him who might be called as witnesses for that trial. brianna? >> very interesting point there. katelyn, i do want to bring in former trump white house lawyer jim schultz and legal analyst
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karen freidman to talk more about this. jim, one of the things when you hear the former president and his allies attack this process, one of the things they do is they seize on the espionage act being the basis for this indictment. they say it's a reach, he is not a spy. certainly this is a salient point with his supporters. what about in court? is it a salient point there? >> so i'm not sure that they're going to be making the same argument in court that they are making to the general public. we've seen that time and time again throughout some of these issues involving the former president. so i think the espionage act is very clear, there's confidential information, you know, classified information, the information isn't to be taken out of the building, the information isn't to be disse disseminated, you know, it doesn't really require you to give it to foreign country, it doesn't -- it absolutely doesn't require you to even -- to give it to foreign country or to be a
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spy. that's going to be something that they're going to talk about in the political realm and i think there's going to be a big difference between what's said in the political realm and what's said in the courtroom. >> i think you are definitely right there. karen, you just heard katelyn outlining the restrictions that trump and walt nauta are supposed to abide by, right? they are barred from discussing the case with each other and also from other witnesses. how can the court even enforce this, especially considering trump is telling all of us, right, he's communicating with all of us about this court case publicly? >> yeah, so it's complicated, right? you would have to have a witness come forward and say that trump is communicating with them. it's really to protect the case and protect the witnesses from being bullied by donald trump or in some way him having to try to influence them because there is a power dynamic that is very different, right, between donald trump and the rest of the world,
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especially his -- the witnesses who are going to testify against them. so it's really to protect them and hopefully if he does do that they can come forward and the court can handle it from there. >> i wonder, jim, what if this drags on until after the 2024 election? i know that's a hypothetical, but if he were to win the election and then there's supposed to be a trial, it's a hypothetical that perhaps is worth discussing, considering he is the leading candidate on the republican side right now. what do you think? >> look, i don't believe that this gets delayed until beyond the 2024 election. i just don't. there is -- you know, south florida is typically -- district of southern florida is usually known to be a rocket docket state. there is the speedy trial act which requires the trial within 70 days. i don't think we're going to see it within 70 days, but that being said i think the government has been clear that they believe that they have a pretty simple case, that they're ready to go to trial and they're
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ready to go to trial and do it in a speedy fashion. so i think it's really going to be incumbent upon the judge to referee this thing in a way that we are not waiting until after the election to have this trial. that it happens in a prompt way and i think the government is going to be pushing for that. now, donald trump's lawyers are going to be pushing the other way saying, look, there are a lot of emotions here, a decent amount of motions in practice, which is true, but the judge will be the one controlling that time frame. >> karen, is that your expectation on the timeline? >> yeah, absolutely. you know, we've seen in other court cases donald trump's legal team, his legal strategy is to delay, delay, delay and disrupt. so he's going to try to delay this case. i don't think he wants to go to trial because i think, you know, if i were his lawyers i'd be thinking, well, let's instead get you elected and then you can pardon yourself, you know, if that would even hold up in court. you know, in reality. but i think that's what they would -- or at least pull the investigation, right, from the
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doj. i think delay is really what he's going to try to do and that really is the judge. and this judge, judge aileen cannon, is one who already has shown and was reversed, actually, because she was shown that she has some sort of bias towards donald trump already. so, you know, we will see what happens, but it really will be what -- in her control to see if this actually goes before the election. >> yeah, it will be very interesting to see how she factors into that. jim, we've heard from the former president and also from his allies as well. he's very fixated on how hillary clinton handled classified information. why is he so fixated on that and what, if anything, about her 2016 case is relevant in your opinion here? >> so, look, again, you are talking about the political realm versus the courtroom. in the political realm it's incredibly relevant because he's
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picking a high-profile democratic person, hillary clinton, to attack on issues that were obviously front and center during the 2016 race. that's really not going to come into play in the courtroom, right? i think in terms of strategy in the courtroom, i think what you're going to see from the trump team is a plan to try to get evidence suppressed that supports the indictment. they're going to look at the affidavit of probable cause that went into the -- that supported the raid and the warrant for the raid on mar-a-lago. and they're going to try to attack that affidavit of probable cause. they're going to look at the testimony of trump's lawyers and they're going to, you know, look at that carefully and try to poke holes in the idea that the crime fraud exception applied to the attorney/client privilege because obviously he had privilege with his lawyers. they're going to try to say, look, the court went too far in allowing that testimony and the written documentation that came
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in. that's going to be the attempt at the motion level. very high bars to clear here and clearly an uphill battle but i think that's the motion practice you're going to see. also the confidential information procedures act is something that's going to come into play because there's obviously confidential documents, classified documents procedures act. there's classified documents that are going to come into play here and those are either going to have to be redacted or declassified for purposes of presentation. that's going to be motion practice as well and that's something that the trump team is going to bring front and center. >> james and karen, thank you so much to both of you for the conversation. i really appreciate it. boris? one man's federal charge is the same man's fundraising opportunity. when we come back how former president donald trump is using his federal indictment to bolster support and just how much that support adds up to. and months after the u.s. shot down a chinese spy balloon
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the federal case against former president donald trump has yet to be tried, but it's already proven to be a moneymaker for his 2024 bid. >> yeah, a source says the trump campaign raised more than $2 million from his bedminster, new jersey, event which happened just hours after his arraignment. let's get some perspective now with cnn's jessica dean and jeff zeleny. jessica, the former president not only raised money, he also got some feedback from donors. >> that's right, that's what course sows sources were telling us. he flew to bedminster where he had that fundraiser with his high dollar donors. he wanted feedback, wanted to hear how great of a job he had done. sources telling us that he was going around asking people their opinions, also complaining about the indictment, but then kind o well he had handled it.
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we actually spoke toe told us that he found the former president to be, quoting here, full of fire and said, i liked the man's courage and strength. so he seemed to be a bit more positive once he got to new jersey and among friends, obviously. >> he's using it to his advantage. >> totally. >> as best as he can, which is very trump. so he may have some scheduling issues, right? i mean, we all know how we can have scheduling conflicts from time to time, but this takes it to a new level. he's got campaign events which he's trying to keep and then he has court proceedings. how is he going to do this? >> he is try to turn this legal challenge into a political opportunity. his campaign is part of his case. it's impossible to delink them. the schedule is one big example of that. there are campaign events, there also are the court events. i think we have a look at the schedule here. the first republican debate in august, it's unclear fell attend
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that. the opening of the voting begins in iowa, likely in january sometimes followed by the new hampshire primary, there's super tuesday there. getting way ahead of ourselves, the general election day. a lot of legal analysts and lawyers believe that this case may not be to trial at the end of the day until after the general election. so it's likely that republican voters will have a say before jurors ever do. >> jessica, notably trump handled this a little differently than he handled the new york indictment. sources indicate his lawyers learned something from that first experience. >> they took that first indictment, gleaned information that and reporting from my colleague, kristen holmes, they've developed a playbook now. what they like to call a playbook. they feel like this should be playing out in the court of public opinion not in the courtroom, per se, and that is where the former president tends to thrive. when he can get out in front of the people, in front of his supporters and really make his case and they believe that's where he can be the most effective. we can expect to see more of that. let's remember down the road many experts believe he will be
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indicted a third time in georgia down the road so they may be pulling this playbook out yet again. >> the goal of winning the election becomes not just to exact his agenda again, right, it becomes about self-preservation. >> i mean, it does in many respects. again, these are very linked events, but it's interesting to see how some of his rivals are beginning to tip toe ever gently into criticizing or raising questions about the serious nature of this. i think we have some sound from former vice president mike pence who talked about the serious nature of this indictment. >> i had a chance to review the indictment over the weekend and this indictment contains serious charges. i cannot defend what is alleged. i can't -- i just can't -- i can't believe that politics didn't play some role here. >> so trying to have it a bit both ways there saying a serious
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indictment, questioning if politics played a role, but he also went on to say that the substance of this is serious because of the military secrets. his son is a marine, we heard nikki haley mention that a couple days ago. look for republican rivals to talk about the substance of the indictment because that is what concerns many voters as they look ahead to that general election. is he, you know -- should he be commander in chief again. >> you are both often on the road speaking to not only candidates because voters as well. have you gotten any sense from either whether there is trump fatigue because of all the talk over these indictments. >> we were in iowa together a week or two ago, then i went on to new hampshire, you were in iowa longer. you get the sense from talking to people they're curious. they really want to know about tim scott or they want to know about ron desantis. when i was in new hampshire with ron desantis, you know, we were in kind of these smaller settings in new hampshire and he's going through the agenda that he enacted in florida and i would see people kind of turn to
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each other and go, did you know that they certainly are paying attention. whether or not that means that they will swing from the former president who is to say. >> there is trump fatigue but one of the issues with that is among those who feel trump fatigue they're divided up so many different ways because there are nearly a dozen candidates in the race. that benefits donald trump more than anyone. >> it is quite the field, those are going to be some debates assuming all those folks get to them. jeff and jessica, thank you to both of you. secretary of state antony blinken about to make a high-stakes trip to china in the attempt to put the sky balloons and close calls with ships and airplanes in the rearview mirror. more on that next. officials say the demolition of the damaged portion of i-95 is expected to be completed tomorrow. we will have details on how long drivers will be looking for alternate routes in nil fill. philadelphia. throw that powder in that tasty combo of delightful carrots, and the rich touch of bok choy. knorr taste combmbos.
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new today, secretary of state tony blinken has spoken with china's foreign minister and now an in-person meeting is set. the top u.s. diplomat will be traveling to beijing this weekend in the hopes of tamping down a recent spike in tensions between the two countries. the trip was originally scheduled for this past february but it was rescheduled because of that chinese spy balloon incident and that's just one of the close encounters that has ratcheted up the friction here. in may the pentagon says a chinese jet, you see it here in this video, made a, quote, unnecessarily aggressive maneuver of a u.s. spy plane over the south china sea. earlier this month two war ships
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nearly collided in the taiwan strait. pretty amazing, all of this captured on camera. we have cnn's senior national security correspondent alex marquardt joining us now. too many things going on. i'm pointing all over the place here. alex, you are right there, though, so thank you for being with us. how important is this trip now that it's finally happening? >> it's extremely important balls of all that tension that you noted, because of all these recent incidents. administration officials saying it's absolutely critical to keep these lines of communication open. we did hear from administration officials earlier today previewing the trip, calling it a crucial series of engagements. in order for the countries to not accidentally, they say, veer into some kind of conflict. this was a rescheduling as you noted of a trip that the u.s. canceled because of that spy balloon and since then the tension has only ratcheted up with one incident after the next. that one in the air over the south china sea between the ships, in the taiwan strait. the military to military
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relationship has -- is one that has really fallen apart. the heads of the militaries, of the defense ministries not speaking to each other for many months. we know that secretary of defense lloyd austin tried to schedule a meeting with his chinese counterpart at a recent summit in singapore. the chinese turned that down. all secretary austin got was a handshake. there's been a flurry of recent reporting about chinese spying on the united states from cuba. so now we have secretary blinken going over there to beijing in a call between him and his counterpart just yesterday, however, we really got a sense of the tone. his counterpart, the foreign minister saying that the u.s. needs to stop interfering in internal affairs. there are a couple major subjects of course that blinken and the chinese officials will be really going after. taiwan, huge one. the chinese support for russia in the war in ukraine, another big one because the u.s. would like to see them supporting russia less. of course, there are a number of
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americans who have been detained wrongfully, the u.s. says, three of them in chinese prisons. and then the diplomats will try to encourage that conversation between the militaries as well. now, the state department has been trying to lower expectations, saying in diplo-speak to not expect a long list of deliverables. essentially just don't expect a lot of outcomes from this trip, but the priority they say is really to get this communication going again. >> i suppose it is good news, obviously, that they are talking, especially when you have some of these discussions breaking down in the military channel. what is the expectation about making some progress on this issue of china spying from cuba? >> probably not much. the fact of the matter is both countries spend an extraordinary amount of time, of focus, on money trying to spy on each other in all kinds of different ways, from satellites, from planes, human -- what they call
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human -- so human spies if they possibly can. so this is really a spy versus spy. i mean, we have u.s. ships and planes off the coast of china all the time. that's what china is really getting so angry about. we do know that the chinese have been spying on the u.s. from cuba for years. the biden administration initially rejected or said that the reporting that we and others had last week was incorrect, that china is going to be putting a new facility -- wants to put a new facility in cuba, but then over the weekend the administration kind of walked that back, saying, in fact, china has been spying on the u.s. for years from cuba, but it was an issue that they inherited, they said. it certainly appeared that the administration not trying to build this up into a major issue before this visit by the secretary of state. >> really interesting. alex marquardt, we will be keeping an eye on this with us. thank you. still to come on cnn "news central" an olympic gold
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headlines we're watching this hour. america's largest protestant denomination is kicking out two of its churches for allowing female pastors to lead that congregation. they say their use of female
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pastors goes against the convention's, quote, interpretation of biblical strip tour. also major progress taking place in philadelphia. governor josh shapiro says the demolition of the collapsed portion of interstate 95 will be finished tomorrow. this is going to allow travelers to drive over parts of both the north and southbound lanes. they said the bridge was structurally sound sunday morning before a fiery crash led to the collapse. and a california school superintendent is now fired according to cnn affiliate kabc following outrage over the decision to block a social studies lesson that mentions gay rights leader harvey milk. they voted against the curriculum claiming sexually inappropriate content, the board's president even making a controversial claim calling harvey milk a pedestrian owe file. an olympic medalist tori bowie was a force of nature on
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the track field but at the age of 32 and while 8 months pregnant she went into childbirth at home and died alone. his death was ruled natural and the report stated there had been possible complications including respiratory distress and ee collapse i can't. sadly her story is not unique. a 2022 study found women in the u.s. face the highest rates of preventable mortality when compared with women in ten other nations. that same study found that it's much worse for black women in america. their maternal death rates are nearly three times as high as those of white women. joining us with more we have dr. lens who is an ob/gyn in los angeles. thank you for joining us. i do want to start with preeclampsia and i want to add because i know people will be curious that the baby did not survive as well in this. this is a tragic story when we are talking about this woman and this athlete.
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can you explain why this condition is so dangerous to the mother and clearly here the child as well. >> well, i mean, anything that's going to be dangerous to the mother is going to be dangerous to a fetus. i mean, that is where the fetus is residing. so that goes without saying and it sort of highlights yet again why we need to be centering women's health and reproductive care of all kinds during this time. preeclampsia is one of the more common complications we see in pregnancy and one of the reasons that we see our patients toward the end of pregnancy is more frequently. that's why we start seeing people every week because blood pressure is the main issue here. we don't understand completely but it has something to do with the way the placenta has implanted and the way our blood vessels are functioning during the pregnancy. we make a lot of changes to the volume of blood in our body for obvious reasons and the blood pressure itself needs to
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maintain itself to a certain extent to be getting blood profusion to all of the organs of mom, brain, heart, all the organs and to the fetus. we get some instability and we can start having very severe problems with the blood pressure rising to a degree that becomes dangerous. it can if untreated result in things like pulmonary edema, blood leaking and fluid leaking into the lungs so that you cannot breathe and that is also related to something called eclampsia which causes seizures and can cause death in people who are untreated. so it is shocking, horrific, tragic that in this day and age anybody would get that sick and not be getting care. we don't know the details, i don't know what happened, but, i mean, to remove the context as you already have provided of the insane disparity in maternal outcomes in this country would
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be wrong because it's impossible for me to understand that they're not related. that her being black is not related to this. it's concerning. >> speak to that. speak to that about preeclampsia, why we're seeing the racial disparities there, and why we are overall the other factors that are contributing to the racial disparities in these maternal mortality rates. >> well, there's two -- there's the science, okay, there's the science, right? so we know -- first of all, like i said, preeclampsia about 5% to 8% of pregnancies can result in preeclampsia and we know very well how to treat that. when people are getting proper care and they have access to care and they are taken seriously they shouldn't get beyond preeclampsia. they should get preeclampsia and be delivered basically, okay? so there is the science. we do know that black women have 60% higher rates of preeclampsia, but, again, this is treatable. this should be treatable.
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so what is the issue? this is a great question and we are struggling with this question and we are struggling more importantly with solutions. but if you look at the data on just how the disparities that black people and black women specifically are subjected to, even in emergency room care it takes longer for them to get seen. they have fewer rates of admission from the emergency room. their complaints of pain are not taken as seriously and consequently a normal human reaction would be, well, i'm not taken seriously, i'm not going to go get care. there are so many levels of problem here. i wish i had the solution. i don't have the solution. i will say that having doctors that look like their patients is super important. we do not have enough people of color, we do not have enough black doctors and that makes a difference. we know outcomes are different when we look like our doctors, this happens with women across the board also by the way. not here to disparage white male
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doctors, i have partners who are wonderful humans and doctors that are white men, however, we know that data shows us, demonstrates, and i do have to say as a white female physician, if we don't take personal accoun accountability, if every person who is a health care provider doesn't take accountability and say, what is my unconscious bias here? let me overdo it. let me overattend to my patients that i know have worse outcomes and let me look at what i can be doing differently. this is not going to get better. the organizations are trying to address it, but my experience in medicine over 26 years has been that the gross roots demands are always what makes us change. i'm so personally and professionally upset about this so i can spit the science at you and tell you my philosophy and my experience. it's converging in the most horrific of ways in this loss. it's two human beings. terrible. beyond. >> it really is and it's getting
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a lot of attention and these are very important issues that we are discussing and that need to be addressed. doctor, thank you for your time today, we do appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. boris? they couldn't just let it be, decades after the deaths of john lennon and george harrison paul mccartney says there is a new beatles song on the way, details on how they were able to resurrect those voices when we come back. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think b bigger. get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a new tool in the chase mobile® app. use it to set d track your goals, big and small... could help put them within rea. from your first big move to retiring poolside
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the beatles are back. paul mccartney says there's a new beatles song coming out and it gets by with a little help from ai. it's been made from a john lennon demo track and they used artificial intelligence to create the voices of john lennon and george harrison. >> we were able to take john's voice and get it pure through this ai so then we could mix the record as you would normally do. it gives you some sort of leeway. >> mccartney went on to say ai has a good side but also a scary side. we want to bring the executive editor at "variety." what do you make of the news that there's a new beatles song on the way helped along by ai?
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>> the way it got reported is a little overblown. it's not like they cloned john lennon or anything like that. they took his vocal track on the demo, cleaned it up and mixed it into a more professional recording. whether or not this is a beatles song -- this is a demo recorded in the late '70s, probably more in line with the one they did in the mid '90s for the anthology series. >> when you say cleaned up, how well do you think his voice is going to sound? could it pass for a beatles song that was recorded before his death? >> probably to the extent that the ones on the anthology series were. one was called "real love," and the other was called "free as a bird." they were good, not classic beatles stuff. apparently the process is the same or similar to the one in the "get back" film where voices muddled together or obscured by
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noises, they were able to extract basically in terms of audio and isolate them so you can hear them. it's probably just a muffled demo recording that they've improved quite a bit. as for the song, none of us know except for paul himself and whoever else is involved. >> i've seen some fans online that are extremely enthusiastic about this, and some that are not quite as pumped that they're using ai to do this. as you said, it's not making upjohn lennon's voice, it's cleaning it up. nonetheless, how do you feel about them sort of resurrecting his vocals? >> it can be a great thing. hearing some of the things that were said in the "get back" film was absolutely fascinating. there are a lot of recordings, bad bootleg recordings, audience recordings from over the years that presumably could benefit from this a whole lot. it's -- it doesn't sound real, i suppose in a certain sense.
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how much do we really care about that? so many recordings now are drastically treated and don't sound real already. it does feel a bit like messing with sort of sacred territory, a sort of false reconstruction of something. i'll take it over nothing. that's cool. >> i'm with you on that. there is something a bit eerie about listening to a person who has been dead for so many years. jem aswad, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. former president donald trump will continue to travel and work with his co-defendant waltnauta. we'll have details on that and the trump team strategy next. built t with rotisserie-style chicken and double cheese. i love w what i'm seeing here. that's some well-coached chicken. you done, peytonon? the subway series just keeps gettin' better. i brought in ensure max protein with 30g of protein.
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