and we felt they were going to die. and andrea and her mother held each other under a pew but bowes shot them. and she stayed with her mother. bowers shot them. and she stayed with her mother. an degredrea survived by essent playing dead. and this is just one of the emotional testimony we've heard. and it is not over yet. closing arguments expected to start in a few minutes. and after that, the trial goes to a jury. >> and will the jury also decide on the death penalty or is that bench decision? >> reporter: it will also be decided by the jury. they will stay on. >> appreciate your coverage.

and krrng "cnn this morning" cos now. skdonald trump rejected a deal. >> and he will never settle ever. >> and merrick garland is defending the man running it. >> he has assembled a group who shared his sxhimt tcommitment. shared his sxhimt tcommitment. do you put daniel penny on the stand, what was in his mind. >> and new video from ukraine's front lines as the military engages in fers fighting. >> most of the soldiers don't want to be there.ighting. >> most of the soldiers don't want to be there. >> they acknowledge it will be a tough battle. >> and yet another republican

from florida is running for president. the mayor of miami officially filing his 2024 paperwork. >> a if ultimate that confronts our enemies. >> we need to get behind the issues . mets walk it off. >> and i was so glad that i could get the opportunity to come through. >> good morning. we're so glad that you are with us on this thursday. it is 7:00 a.m. here on the east coast. and we begin -- >> nice to be with you. and a lot happening including a new reporting from the "washington post" that donald trump rejected his lawyer's advice to strike a deal with the justice department. the "post" says that chris kise

wanted to negotiate a settlement back in the fall. and this is after the fbi had searched mar-a-lago, found highly sensitive documents. and trump apparently though was not interested and skrnthe trum team is casting the story that theres s of not an opportunity. and head of the group judicial watch. he has been cite being the so-called clinton socks case. that was brought by judicial watch. and he tweets about it a lot. his group sued to get access to the audiotapes that bill clinton did that he reportedly stashed in his sock draw. different set of facts but trump

still pushing it. >> i had every right to have these documents. the crucial legal resident is laid out in the most important case ever on this subject known as the clinton socks case. >> and joining us is errol lewis and also will herd. good to have you with us. you read this reporting. i thought it was really remarkable reporting. my question though, do you believe that if the president has listened to kise and they had said let's settle it out that sdg doj would have agree a withouted a nation of wrong doing? >> let's take a step further .

when they ask the document, just give them back and we wouldn't be in this position. if donald trump would have followed had law, we wouldn't be here. and yes, maybe there would have been an opportunity. doj probably didn't want to prosecute this case because they knew the drama it was going to come into. but we're not shocked hthat donald trump would rather a fight. and so many people are defending him for doing this. we know because when mike pence had documents, he turned them back and everything is fine. so the stuff that he -- now, my question is why is he trying to keep track of them? the question is how they were being stored and when is donald

trump going to tell us all the steps he took to prevent people from coming into his hotel and accessing those documents. it is very clear that donald trump knew he had information that was so sensitive that the classification is classified. there are several of those documents that had -- where it said in the classification line that they are marked out, r red redacted. because the classification is classified. and he knew that they were in places that were accessible. when will he say that these are the steps that i took to prevent china and russia to come in. and guess what, we wouldn't be in this position if he just gave

the documents back. >> and those are not the questions clearly being addressed to your point. i don't know if we'll ever hear those answers. also not the questions being raised by those supporting the president saying this is ridiculous and is this politicize. does it change anything. >> there is a real misinformation factor here. he watched the former president ranting and raving from the front steps at bedminister and it was really disappointing to talk about the socks case. first a lot of us are like he is talking about this thing? it is ten years old. as it is if any of us gave a

public record and it was subject to disclosdisclosure. but they lost and they are still telling the former president this and he is not propagating this out there. and so now a lot of people, possibly thousands, even millions who somehow believe that former president can take any record they want -- >> that is the point. that is the point. >> is really is striking because it is such a ted loser, dead on arrival. and confusion is being deployed as a legal strategy. >> listen to some others here making their case -- >> if this in-skidictment is tr

if what it says is the case, president trump was incredibly reckless with our national security. >> i hope the department of justice would see its way clear to resolve the issues without moving forward with charges. >> this is a rogue agency thoroughly politicized and weaponized. and i believe to indict a former president or sitting president, the thresh hold should be very, very high. >> if you are going indict someone for having classified documents, how about joe biden and the classified documents he had stuck in just about orifice of his body, flenext to his old corvette. >> ted cruz knows what obstruction is he nos the difference between what is doing on with the special counsel and what jack smith has brought here. but this is politics, no?

>> this is absolutely politics. and we can separate all of these issues. we can have a conversation about whether or not doj should be doing something or not be doing something. that is a value lild conve individual conversation. as a former cia guy, there are loggerheads on issues.d indivi conversation. as a former cia guy, there are loggerheads on issues.va indiv conversation. as a former cia guy, there are loggerheads on issues.l indivi conversation. as a former cia guy, there are loggerheads on issues.i indivi conversation. as a former cia guy, there are loggerheads on issues.d indivi conversation. as a former cia guy, there are loggerheads on issues.value lill conversation. as a former cia guy, there are loggerheads on issues. 123 innocent until approach guilty. but if the gop is the party of law and order, we need to do that with our own folks. we should actually hold our side more accountable to the higher ethical standard. and so this is the part that is

frustrating. and instead of talking about the problems with the joe biden administration and why his numbers are so low and one of the lowest approval ratings of a president at this time, instead of talking about that, we're having these debates about donald trump's baggage and continued drama. that is not good for the gop. that is not good for us to poten potentially win reactions. a elections. and not good for the country. and donald trump sgptdoesn't sc about the future of america. he cares about going to prison. >> when he spoke to bedminster, he said is this abthis is about you guys. >> that's right. and that is the trump brand at

this point.guys. >> that's right. and that is the trump brand at this point.>> that's right. and that is the trump brand at this point. the people you hate i hate, your enemies are my enemies. and so let's have a fight. this is different than talking about tax policy or wrap up the pandemic and have a more robust public health system or anything that people care about. why is this because it gets him a rise. he is 40, 50 pints ahpoints ahes nearest competitor sand so it seems to work. and there will be a bill that comes diehl due.and so it seems to work. and there will be a bill that comes diehl due. when get to the election phase -- >> only 23% of the company votes in primaries. why does only 23% vote?

beca 77% think that this is all nonsense. places i've been the last couple days, nobody is asking me about donald trump keeping classified documents next to the crapper. pardon me language. >> it is 7:12 a.m. but what are they asking about? >> they are worried about -- 65% of americans are afraid that robots will take their jobs. they are worried about whether their kid z will be able to have a good paying job when they graduate from college.sz will b have a good paying job when they graduate from college.z will bee a good paying job when they graduate from college.z will be a good paying job when they graduate from college.sz will be a good paying job when they graduate from college. will be a good paying job when they graduate from college. these are the questions that people care about. people are worried about why can't i have my kids and

grandkids playing in parks because these cities entities and mayors can't figure out how to address homelessness in a compassionate way or deal with crime. these are the questions that people -- that folks worry about putting food on the table. and yet as a politician, as a member of of the gop, if we start talk going those things, we have an opportunity to take -- to deal with the frustration that independents are feeling. the number of democrats that -- 7 out of 10 americans sds don'tt to see joe biden on the ballot.

>> oopd dondonald trump is suck all the oxygen. and mayor suarez is filing paperwork. so this is getting increasingly busy. the pool is quite full. >> and i recognize my perspective is uhe neenk. but options are always better. let have a diversity of thought and ideas. let's have a competition of ideas within the party . we should never be afraid of competition. so can somebody have a vision of

the country that inspires people to come out and make a decision on a particular day. even that that is missing. and what i've learned, what i call the professional political class, polster, people that run races, they always tell you to do the same thing over and over, right? and guess what, get the same boring results every time. so let's do something different. but we live in complicated times. i love that we're talking about the drone and how the ukrainians are being able to use new warfare. what does it mean for conflict between china and taiwan? these are the questions that we should be having. >> are you running? >> i haven't made a decision yet. it will be soon.

i do things on my own time and we'll make a decision when it is time. >> and what is number one on the mind like some of the biggest auth fortune 500 countries, but that is not what any of these republican contenders or joe biden are talking most about. >> yeah, they do things because it does work. and if works means winning that next primary, getting a bump in the polls, putting out a message that will give donors to give

small amounts to you. there may be something fundamentally broken with our system but that is where we are. >> we're not donating so it is not fault. >> but we have some responsibility. and we no it from the news business. year after year, what is the most important thick?d from the. year after year, what is the most important thick?we from th. year after year, what is the most important thick? from the . year after year, what is the most important thick?we no it f business. year after year, what is the most important thick? we have to tell these presidential candidates or whatever party exactly what it is that we want.

not just what a polster says. >> and hold you to account on what you ran on. and we went way over, but stay with us. more to come. stunn ning video that shows russian soldier pleading with a drone to spare his life on the b battlefield. we should state the "wall street journal" interviewed the cap captured soldier but we don't know whether he was speaking unde under duress. and also a team of focus breaking russian morale. sam dkiley is live with more.

f >> reporter: one of the campaigns that the ukrainians have been waging very effectively in the "wall street journal" is propaganda, they are operating in the cyber well him on the mines of russians. and undermining the russian will to fight 00 top of the ability of the vurn thanesrussians liveo give orders is something that they are combining with the cyber realm. this is what it looks like.orde are combining with the cyber realm. this is what it looks like. all right russians attacked. and night vision recording of a routine assault that though needed to shrug off. >> how long did you spend under

fire before you could move? [ speaking nonenglish ] they killed two paratroopers to get to the main targets. and a sterile record of an all-too gritty event in march. first wouone officer is shot. then another down. he says radio intercepts revealed that they lost five to the sniper team.

and this team of experienced veterans works in a secret realm, under the intelligence services. their task with tack tactical work. and here using this modified machine gun,ack tactical work. and here using this modified machine gun,ck tactical work. and here using this modified machine gun,k tactical work. and here using this modified machine gun, tactical work. and here using this modified machine gun,tactical work. and here using this modified machine gun, drone poperators a dresktsing them to rush troops. >> how much have you killed? >> a lot .

>> reporter: they want the russians to do the counting because they hope that they run rather than fight. and very intense fighting. ukrainians are saying that it is going on in what we're callings zaporizhzhia front, that is the approach for the ukrainians towards the great prize of crimea. and that is a bloody old fashioned war there. >> appreciate your reporting, thank you. a vote to expel female pastors. what it means, next. and also 78 people are dead in a ship wreck oofff the coastf greece.

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>> childrens with women as pastors are no longer welcome. the largest protestant denom denominations but twoft of the five appealied the sdegs. and it was led by rick warren. and the other church is in louisville, kentucky. what does it feel like waking up knowing that this fight that you and so many in the church feel so passionately about ultimately failed? >> on one hand, it feels like being kicked out of the family.

like a dwoorsivorce as one of m friends said. but on the other hand, there is something freeing being no more bound. bound no more to the traditions and opinions and power of those in leadership in the southern baptist convection. >> and you fully affirm the baptist have noconvention. and pastors could only be men. >> you are correct. but also known that the baptist faith and message is a confession a al and al and the creed. and we willnessi ing will notin

to those and we address here to those in the 1963. >> amend there are also women leader and member of the church. and this is what one said. and i believe that they will does his courage women and they will find other places to serve. >> and one of the most poignant memories of the last two days is after i spoke, a 14-year-old girl with her mother following behind her, came through the crowds, found me and went pt an she said when i was 11, god called me to be a minister and

now i can't do that in the family that i love. gi just a sad thing for her as her dreams have been to pastor. >> and my understanding that being part of the southern baptist convention, you were left along. and it is not a creed. a what happened do you think changed? is there something about a female pass tor who said that y felt called just like that young girl? in and that is what we have been asking. we say why now. it makes no sense. but there are deeds done in

darkness and some maneuvers going on. and seeking to get ready of women in any capacity in ministry. not just as the pastor. >> and you will continue to seven in yourserve in your hrol >> oh, yes, we'll continue to lift high the gospel of jesus christ. why pick us out of the investigation. why did not person follow biblical standards and come to me, we could have dialdialogued. but most didn't want to

dialogue. one came up and said that your pastor is leading you as trade. and that impacted her greatly. and so sad that she was a part of that. >> thank for joining us. and migrants being bussed. we'll tatalk about that. (vo) this is sadie. she's's on veriz, and she has the new myplan where she gets exactly what she wants and only pays for what she needs. she picks only the perks she wants and saves on every one! all with an incredible new iphone. act now and get iphone4 pro on us when you switch. it's your vizon.

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he -- los angeles says that they are a sanctuary city. so do you agree with what governor abbott is doing is this. >> what i don't independent with some of the debates with moving people, if you go to the san antonio airport, there are hundreds getting flown all over the country. so other cities have to continue to help deal with the crisis. and i remind people this started under donald trump and now it is worse under joe biden. it takes 10 1/2 hours to drive across my district. and these communities have been dealing with it before covid. and now they are having

thousands of people that they have to take care of before they find places to go in the interior of the country. so i don't think how a bus is different in from a flight. but what we need to be talking about is how california says here is what we can deal with. i know new york city is doing it. >> so everybody needs to step up. so do you agree with the way governor abbott is handling this? >> sending people on a bus versus a plane? i don't know what the difference is. i know a lot of people are still getting on buses in places like dell wo rio. so i don't know how that is different. yes, a couple of buses went to kamala harris's house. that is trying to shine a light

on that. but how we are not outraged by the human mugglers and that are taking their money. smugglers made about $25 billion last year. so why we are not route raged by that? people need asylum. so why very we not route raged by legal immigration. republicans always get blamed for that, but when democrats have owned the entire government and had all branches of government, they have they have been able to do that because they haven't been able to do it as well. and there are a number of things that the administration can do

to solve the problem, not be consumed by some people being on a bus going to a police where they will probably have a better quality of life and not have to sleep on befrnls in he willbenc. >> and new york is your area and so you say -- where does it gee? >> anxiosanctuary city is pure politics. it refers to what happens after someone gets here. not a lot of cooperation with border officials. but that -- you know, rudy giuliani implemented that. because we are 2200 gist last

week. and there are upwards of 40,000 staying in hotel an shelters because you they were accepts here by governor an above and other polit politicians. it does require a national response. the burden is $4 billion. and that unsis takenable. they will have to do humanitahuman interventions. but they need to find a solution but that is what you get. we don't have enough money for the judges or -- >> no, we have the money but it is about how we're spending it.

i'll i'll forget a never forget talking about how arbitrary this is. and it gets to the core before. and it is how we are spendings money. >> and a big part, if you think about it, massive spending in vaen venezuela, in other places to stop the flow or even just to shift some of the logistical handling of it would be worth every penny. and yet if you talk about increasing what is perceived as foreign aid, this is an enormous response. that you think both. up next, it is 15 years since

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his death. i'm happy so be joined by luke. and this is a meaningful book. and i think for even who has lost a parent, father's day means something different. but to you, as you look at this father's day, let's just play the eulogy that you gave dad all those years ago. >> his spirit lives on in everybody who loves their country, loves their family, loves their faith, and loves those buffalo bills. i love you, dad, and in his words, let us all go get emowing sf . >> and you write that i don't

country, i whisper, thanks.wing . >> and you write that i don't country, i whisper, thanks.ing . >> and you write that i don't country, i whisper, thanks.ng . >> and you write that i don't country, i whisper, thanks.g . >> and you write that i don't country, i whisper, thanks.. >> and you write that i don't country, i whisper, thanks.>> a country, i whisper, thanks. >> i look back at that kid and he was trying to hard. and i wonder where he got the strength. it was a sense of duty not just to honor his father but also to make people comfortable. i had so many people at the wake who came up and said tim is alive through you. and i tried to gravitate toward that and really live that. and i it that for many years. brought it to nbc news and my open reporting. trying to livei have been tryin flame going. i don't know what's going on inside and i started to feel anxious. i started to feel moments of self-reflection where i didn't

necessarily know, is this what i want to do? >> that was such a key part of the book for me. p you say a hollowness widens. i have been using journalism not enough to protect me from thinking my life is slipping away. you left a huge career, could have been stardom, maybe you would have followed your father's footsteps and moderated "meet the press," to look for yourself? >> i was looking for who i was independent of the legacy, independent of the washington bubble, independent of media. i was seeking permission to be my own person. i look back, that's silly, because my father loved me so much. the one thing he would want me to do is be happy. the other thing that i did over the course of all those continents and countries was i was trying to outrun grief

because i had never really dealt it. >> outrun grief? >> outrun grief, because i never dealt with it. i throew myself into work. and i just sort of left journalism and said i am going to reflect and think about things and i became more comfortable with the voice in my head but i realized i never really understood the gravity of losing my best friend and north star. i always sort of stored and ignored which unfortunately -- >> stored and ignored? >> something i think a lot of young men ultimately do. a lot of men do. it's a way to sort of escape the vulnerability of having to deal with grief and loss which is often difficult, especially when you are trying to project strength for your family and your omentality. >> you talk with the courage to find your purpose. then house speaker john boehner calls you in for a special meeting and he like tells you to go. to leave. >> it's incredible. second in line to the presidency, he calls me.

his office on capitol hill. i thought he was going to be mad about coverage. you know politicians call you up. i walk in the office. he says, what are you doing? what do you mean? no, what are you doing on capitol hill? i have seen you here eight years. so many folks are here 20, 30, 40 years, they wake up one morning and don't know if this was all there was in their life. if you like it, stay here, you're good at it, but just make sure it's what you actually wouldn't to do because time is a flat circle and this is a very transactional place. it was words when a messenger. >> you end with a chapter on your travels to jerusalem and that's where we learn about your faith. you are a devout catholic and you had a pretty remarkable experience in jerusalem asking god what am i supposed to do? what did he tell you? >> towards the end of the journey i am confused because i started writing the book at that point. i didn't know, what is the purpose of all this? why was i bestowed all these

things upon me? what can i do? i go into the tomb of christ, the church of the holy sepulchre and i pray and say, i asked god, what can i do? i hear a voice in my head that says keep praying. why? oh, this is going to continue? then i walk out into the dark night of old jerusalem and there is all the shops are closed but there is a guy selling yamakas on a table. the one that is front and center is a buffalo bills yamaka. that's dad. i won't give away the ending. i became aware that you've got to look for the signs and they are all there. >> but the signs will take care of you. i slip a note in and that's my message to dad. >> let's end on this for father's day and everyone who experiences it differently. you write in the book, dear dad, can you see me now? i am myself like you somehow. i will write -- that makes me

tear up. >> yeah. eddie vedder for the song "release" which you played on the way in. a lot of us who lost our fathers hold on to that and their spirit and memory. father's day is not easy for a lot of people. i am very much aware of that. i got to a place where more so than anything i lost loved ones, they want us to be happy. they want us to cheer them and remember them fondly. and that's what i will do for my father this father's day. >> it's such a good book. for anyone dealing with grief, i hope they read it. congratulations. >> thank you. look for me there grieving my father finding myself is out now. >> that was so sweet. sorry. htful carrots, and the rich touch of bok c choy. knorr taste combos. it's not fast food, but it's soooooo good. ♪ ♪

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erica. what we are seeing, more than 36 hours after this ship sank, the fear is at this stage that the 104 survivors, many being looked after this that hangar behind me, will be the only ones found. the greek authorities said they will try to find anyone they can. there are questions about how a boat so clearly in distress should have been left to sink. a dramatic rescue at sea. the greek coast guard putting a group of people to safety, the lucky ones, survivors of yet another catastrophe on the deadliest migrant crossing in the world. the mediterranean. somehow 104 people managed to leave this overcrowded fishing boat alive, but hundreds you see here did not. most still missing in the deepest part of the mediterranean sea just 50 miles off the greek coast of.

onshore, medics rush to preserve the lives of those that survived. their bodies in trauma after hours in the water. all are men. ei aid workers tell me others were unable to get out. >> what we are get interesting the people is that the mostly the kids and the women, they have been locked inside the basement of the boat. >> reporter: as the search for bodies continues, there are questions about how long it took to try to help these people. the vessel started out from libya heading towards italy and called for help on tuesday afternoon, one charity said. it claims the authorities knew for hours that the vessel was in peril but that a rescue operation was, quote, not launched until it was too late. at this stage there is little hope that more survivors will be found. that those that made are deeply traumatized and their future in europe far from certain.