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onshore, medics rush to preserve the lives of those that survived. their bodies in trauma after hours in the water. all are men. ei aid workers tell me others were unable to get out. >> what we are get interesting the people is that the mostly the kids and the women, they have been locked inside the basement of the boat. >> reporter: as the search for bodies continues, there are questions about how long it took to try to help these people. the vessel started out from libya heading towards italy and called for help on tuesday afternoon, one charity said. it claims the authorities knew for hours that the vessel was in peril but that a rescue operation was, quote, not launched until it was too late. at this stage there is little hope that more survivors will be found. that those that made are deeply traumatized and their future in europe far from certain.
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we have been speaking to family members desperate to figure out whether their loved ones were on the ship. at this moment, there are so many others even now in the med terrain yuan trying to get to safety. >> and that is such an important point. thank you. cnn this morning morning continues now. >> donald's position is never to settle ever because he thinks it's a sign of weakness. unfortunately, he didn't have anybody around him to guide him properly. he is like a petulant child that keeps sticking their finger into an electric socket. most people don't have what to takes to tell donald you're wrong, you've got to do this, because donald doesn't want to hear it. if you say it, he just terminates you. >> good morning, everyone. that is where we begin on the former president because of a stunning report in "the washington post" this morning that former president trump has
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ignored the advice of his lawyers, some whom tried to prevent this classified documents case from coming in the first place. he is now -- that he is now in, including an attorney who wanted to strike a deal with the justice department. we will tell you who he has been listening to. plus, we could get a huge decision from the supreme court this morning dealing with affirmative action. we will take a closer look at the case that could radically transform the way colleges across the country use race as a factor in admissions. the young black state lawmakers in tennessee expelled a few months ago by their fellow colleagues who are republicans and reinstated are facing a special election today. they will join us live in studio. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts now. "the washington post" reporting that one of donald trump's lawyers wanted to strike a deal with the justice department months ago to avoid
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criminal charges in the classified documents case but the former president rejected the idea. "the post" reports that chris kise wanted to negotiate a settlement with doj attorneys back in the fall. this is of course after that august search of mar-a-lago by the fbi. they found a trove of highly sensitive documents, including secrets about our nation's nuclear program. cnn spoke to sources close to trump's legal team about "the post's" reporting and some are casting doubt on this having been a real opportunity to prevent trump's indictment. >> the reporting also notes that rather than listening to actual lawyers, cnn and "the post" found, both report that trump had been following the advice of this man. it's tom fitten who doesn't have a law degree. he is the head of the conservative activist group judicial watch. he started calling trump in february of last year, urging him not to turn over the documents and also not to cooperate with federal investigators. >> let's bring in cnn senior
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legal analyst elie honig, senior political correspondent emmy and chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. good morning, guys. elie, can you talk about what this would have looked like? you were a prosecutor, if you are sitting at doj and the trump team comes to you after you found these classified documents from mar-a-lago and says, look, let's strike a deal here. we don't need to go forward with this. we will give you everything you want. would doj have done that? >> it's all about timing. a i think at this point in this sequence here after the search warrant has been done in august 2022, i don't think there would have been a deal sohort of takig a play. if the trump team comes to me as doj and say we are going give you everything now that you have seven the place and you are going to go away, i think it's too late. there is a point of no return once doj has gone to a judge, said we have probable cause, did the search warrant. that said i think if the lawyers got through to donald trump way earlier in the process, before doj got involved, when it was just archives or maybe early on
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in the doj process and said, okay, sorry, there has been some bad communication here, maybe he has gotten some bad advice, we are going to work with you, back then i think there would have been a chance of a deal that did not involve a guilty plea. >> will herd who was with us this morning talked about there were so many points on this road where things could have greatly changed this and the question we are not talking about and reality we are not talking about in terms of the allegations when it comes to the number of republicans defending the former president. when you look at this from a political agele, is this really the only tactic that donald trump can take right now is to take that page out of his well worn playbook that we all know and just throw whatever he wants to out there, right, make wild allegations that don't have anything to do with his charges, is that it? >> look, trump wants to be trump, right? this is like a spot he is familiar with. he likes sort of this
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contentious back and forth. he likes holding the biden administration accountable and pointing to them and saying, look, they are the ones who did this to me. look, he is raising a lot of money off of it. he is rallying the troops. he is far ahead of ron desantis at this point because of this indictment and the last indictment. i think he feels this propels him and why he wanted to sort of hold his ground. he didn't want to give back his documents. i talked to people who said he was firm on that. he didn't want to do that. and he doesn't listen to his advice anyway from lawyers. when was the last time he listened to a lawyer, really? >> good question. >> he is what's known as david client. >> "the washington post" reporting zeros in on a lawyer who is back on the scene, mr. kise, the former solicitor general of florida, who said let me go to main justice and see if we can put out this fire, enter mr. fitten who says give them hell. in the donald trump playbook, always a more attractive option.
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and cnn did some very good reporting on this last year with evan perez and christian holmes about, you know, fitten's intervention. but as elie points out, once you have executed that search warrant and the wheels of the criminal justice system are turning, it's almost too late to say you're sorry. if you approach on the right level though and said, there is more, we went about this wrong and consider the implications of criminal charges against a former president, let's straighten this whole thing out, there is a chance that an attorney general could have said, all right, full stop, let's go through this and see what else is there, and maybe we can come to some kind of agreement. obviously, that train left the station without anybody on it. >> literally did not happen. >> donald trump is magnetically attracted to the worst possible advice. it's been a theme from the time he took office. it's been a theme throughout the mueller investigation. lawyers saying calm down, let's do the right thing, you can work here.
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and then the people like tom fitten, not a lawyer, telling him no way, fight, you know, get your back up and that always has led him into more trouble. >> back to the right -- >> history has shown us, those are the lawyers that last the shortest time. it's interesting to see kise back in the game. >> yeah. we also want your take on this. a grand jury here in new york voted to indict a man accused of killing a homeless man after holding him in a chokehold on a subway train. that chokehold lasting a number of minutes. marine veteran daniel penny has been indicted, expect today indicted on second-degree manslaughter charges. we are expecting that formal announcement to come later today. he is accused of killing jordan neely last month. he says he felt neely presented a threat and danger on the subway train. witnesses describe the man shout egg was hungry, thirsty, didn't care if he dade. they said penne put him in a chokehold. cnn reached out to penny's
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attorneys for comments as we wait to hear back. as we look at this, john, what do you make, first, of the indictment? >> the indictment is -- he was arrested on may 12th. the controversy of course was it was two weeks after the incident and people were saying, you know, had this been a black suspect, he would have been arrested that night at the scene. what is this special treatment? the district attorney's said we want to hear more about the case. what are the other witnesses on the train showing, is there another video, so on. they put it through the grand jury. that's the first test. that's 23 people who say, well, i'll hear all of that or as much as the district attorney will present and decide is there probable cause to sustain this manslaughter charge, which means he recklessly, not intentionally, recklessly caused the death of another by taking actions that a reasonable person should have known were likely to result in that. the key now is going on to trial two big questions.
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i don't know the answer to the first. i do know he was indicted on man two yesterday. we don't know if daniel penny testified before that grand jury and told his story. if he did, it shows us it did not move those people. if he didn't, he is saving that for the trial where he is going to have to articulate what was in his mind that made him think that that use of force was justified, that this -- that mr. neely was about to do something. >> this is going to be a difficult trial. i mean, any way you look at it. it will come down to sort of the nuances of what exactly happened in that subway car, what was mr. neely doing. i think the testimony of the bystanders, other people in the car is crucial. how long did he hold him in the chokehold? what signs or indicators was mr. neely giving? important to keep in mind, the standard for a grand jury is pr probable cause, down here. at a trial jury beyond a reasonable doubt and you need unanimous. so this is going to be a tragic
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trial, difficult trial, but a tough one, too. >> important one. >> yeah. also this morning, the supreme court could release a major decision on affirmative action. the justices may ban universities from considering race as a driving factor in their admissions process making one of the supreme court's biggest reversals of a precedent since roe v. wade last year. we won't know if they are going to do this. set the table for us. we learned a lot in the oral arguments and it signaled where the court is likely to go. >> right. at 10:00 we are going to get opinions. we never know in advance which ones. all eyes are waiting to see if the court is going to answer that question whether colleges and universities can continue to take race into consideration as a factor in admissions. decades-old precedent is at stake. it has allowed the schools to take race into consideration just in a holistic way, as long
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as it's not this strict quota. at issue are plans for the university of north carolina and harvard and these schools argue they want to take race into consideration so that they can increase diversity on campus. they say that that leads to a better learning environment and at oral arguments elena kagen said these schools are very often the pipelines to leadership in society. but the challenges, they come from a conservative group here, and it says basically that these plans violate equal protection principles as well as federal law that bars you from race discrimination. they say that the plans actually thwart their goal of a color blind society. so the most important thing to remember here is almost just a year ago the court made that move to overturn precedent in area of abortion. now the big question is whether this conservative court that is bolstered by three of president
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trump's nominees is ready to make that move again to overturn precedent and to get rid of these programs that have benefitted black and hispanic students. we will see at 10:00 if we are going to get that opinion today. >> it's interesting. in oral arguments when justice alito talked about this and he asked the question, you know, to the lawyers, arguing what does that mean? they talk about college admissions as a zo sum game. that seemed indicate a lot to me as a listener. what about to you as a court expert? >> well, you are looking at the conservatives on this court and you can also look at justice clarence thomas, the second african american man on the supreme court. he long said that he thinks that precedent should be overturned. he says that in the big picture it ends up hurting rather than helping. so we are going to see what he has to say this time. but a few years ago he said that this precedent should be overturned.
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>> and you expect it will be -- do you think clarence thomas will write the majority opinion if it goes that way? >> it's hard to tell, right? we have a lot of big cases pending. you sort of have to do the math. who has written different majority opinions. other big cases, a voting rights ace, a couple of cases doing with president biden's programs. so you just have to see. at this time of the year it's a guessing game. what are we going to get these opinions and who is going to write? we will have to check in at 10:00. >> thank you very much. we certainly will. election day for the two tennessee state lawmakers expelled then reinstated because of their guan reform determinations on the statehouse floors. justin jay pearson and justin jones will join us next. an arizona mother who received a frantic phone call sounded like her daughter telling her she had been kidnapped. you may remember this story that cnn brought you. it wasn't her daughter on the phone. it was a scam. a frightening scam created a artificial intelligence. you're gonna hear directly from
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[ crowd chanting ] >> they were accused of breaking the quorum when they stage add gun reform demonstration on the floor using a blowhard and following this of course following that deadly school shooting in nashville. both men returned to the tennessee house after local officials reaoppointed them through unanimous votes. those were interim posts. jones will advance to the general election in the fall. pearson has one democratic challenger in the primary. they join us this morning. a blow horn. i said it wrong. sorry about that, guys. good morning, thanks very much for being us with. >> i want to -- >> good morning. >> i wonder, mr. jones, to you -- you're still going into assuming you retake your seats a body where two-thirds voted to oust you. for these goals and for saying we have to do something on guns
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that are killing our children. what has it been like interacting with them as you face this special election? >> yes, good morning and thank you so much for having us. as you said, today is the primary election. i don't have a democratic opponent but you have a republican opponent. my opponent, an example, 60% of my opponent's campaign contributions come from my republican colleagues in the legislature. 60%. that means my colleagues who vote today expel myself and representative pearson have not given up in their attempt to kick out the two youngest black lawmakers in thundershower state because we stood with our constituents providing common sense gun laws. we have a special session that we hope moves towards gun safety. we are in a body where our voices are not welcome. the last week of session we were not allowed to speak. we have been stripped of our committees and we are treated like second-class members in the tennessee general assembly. the work to reinstate us that
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work continues. >> and you do have a challenger in the primary today. just to pick up where your colleague left off, are you feeling that same way in terms of what it's been like for you over the last several months trying to do the job that you were elected to do? you were restated. has it been more challenging? >> we have to realize that we are dealing with an institution, an institution that does not change very quickly. this institution has been rooted in white supremacy and patriarchy and injustice for a long time. the ramifications of their decisions because they are promoting a mockocracy instead of a democracy have been hurting our democracy through anti-democratic behavior such as our expulsions. because we know the institution won't change, we are relying on the people power movement that is interracial,
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multigenerational, lifting up voices of people that want to see something done on gun safety, want to sew some someth done in our communities. >> do you think that anybody changes? i remember when you -- speaking after all of this, you said we called for you all to ban assault weapons. you responded with an assault on democracy saying you weren't really to use this time, this power, to talk about red flag laws and other things you were calling for, vowed to be with the people every week demanding you act. the body hasn't significantly changed in terms of, you know, their politics. do you have any reason to believe you can get some of this stuff a second time around? >> i do. you know, this summer i met with people from across the state and the majority of tennesseeans, republican, independent, democrats support common sense gun laws. the governor is calling for us to pass red flag laws, nra-endorsed governor. the tide is shifting here. there is generational shift.
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as i said back in april, the republican super majority -- gen-z is the generation and they are rising up. students yesterday making shirts that they protect kids, not guns and will have a rally tomorrow and the house republican leader in sumner county, a rural county. tennessee is shifting for are the better. we are building a multigenerational democracy, a multi-faith democracy in our state and either we are going to change, you know, the laws here or change some of those seats come 2024 and this election for us, special election, is going to be that first step forward to show that attacks on democracy will not come, we will protect our kids and not the gun industry. >> great to have both of you with us. tennessee state representatives justin pearson, justin jones, thank you both. new this morning, south korea reporting that the north has fired two ballistic missiles. we will give you the latest on what we are learning this hour. this just in. miami mayor francis suarez announced he is joining that
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so new this morning, south korea reporting that north korea has fired two ballistic missiles towards the east coast of the korean peninsula. before that missile launch, north korea denounced the joint exercises between the u.s. and south korea. those exercises ended today. the two countries have staged five joint live drills since may 25th. this also just in to cnn. the 2024 republican field growing again. >> in miami we stopped waiting for washington to lead. america's so-called leaders confuse being loud with actually leading. all washington wants to do is fight with each other instead of fighting for the people that put them in office. my dad taught me that you get to choose your values and i am choosing the biggest one of my life. i am going to run for president. i am going to run for your children and mine. let's give them the future they deserve. >> the mayor of the city of
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miami, francis suarez, joining the rather crowded gop race here. cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff is with us now. the third floridian to join the race. >> you can see he is a young candidate, 45 years old. clearly wanting to show he is in good shape and presents a generational change with many of the candidates in the race. as you said, the field is getting incredibly crowded. he becomes yet another republican. he is going to formally announce tonight at the reagan library. of course, that is an interesting venue. he said ronald reagan has been a hero of his since he was a young boy. again at 45 years old, he would have had to have been a young boy. he didn't really live through the reagan era. he was re-elected to the mayor of miami after being elected the first time with very strong margins. the mayor is largely a ceremonial role. most of the power in miami comes
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from the county board. he certainly is a spokesman and certainly a good face for miami. but i sat down with him last year to talk about what he believes is needed in this republican field and his comments now perhaps are more instructive than ever. >> there is absolutely no doubt that relitigating the 2020 election is not going to be a recipe for success for the republican party. i think having a vision, understanding that this could be a generational moment for the country where, you know, people are passing the baton from one generation to the next creates generational opportunities for many people in this country. >> so talking about not relitigating the 2020 election, this certainly is now front of mine as we hear former president donald trump talking still about the election that he claims he won to joe biden which of course is not true. he is also talking about the
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need for someone from outside washington, someone to run as an outsider. that is how he is presenting himself. make no mistake. this is a very uphill battle for him. the race is vcrowded. he is not well known. the biggest challenge trying to get on that first debate stage august 23rd. the candidates must have 40,000 donors from 20 different states to make that debate stage. certainly he is in the race today. a growing field, which likely benefits the frontrunner, donald trump. >> we will be watching all of it. thank you. and a really important programming note. tomorrow right here on "cnn this morning" mayor francis suarez will join us live. as we look at where things stand now, elie, john, back with us, the fact that we have mayor suarez now in the race, we have a rather crowded field which we have been saying some time now, but it keeps getting a little bit more crowded, can he change the conversation?
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can he break through when you are dealing with this many people and one very loud, very well known main contender? >> that's the thing. no one can really change the conversation because the former president is dominating the headlines and the news cycles and it's hard to. i think what people are looking for now is someone who is going to say be a chris christie, for instance, and say, well, what are you doing? like, why are you going to elect sunday someone like donald trump again? so this is a vanity campaign. i don't expect that anything will come of it. but, you know, name recognition maybe for him down the road. and it all benefits the former president really. i mean, there is a huge lead right now between the former president and ron desantis. i think everyone else is sort of campaigning for vice president at this point. >> it's interesting. it seems like there are two litmus tests relating to donald trump. one is do you believe that donald trump lost the 2020 election and has said quite
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clearly let's forget about 2020, we need to stop claiming that was stolen. that seems like that's the majority consensus opinion. then how about this indictment, this documents indictment, and he struggled and tried to thread a needle on that one. i think that's trickier and requesting to trip up some of the candidates mo son than the 2020 question. >> i think one the interesting tells this week, we looked at the donald trump, you know, arraignment in miami and people were saying, you know, where are the barriers? you know, why isn't this place locked down? then you had a mayor who is 48 hours from announcing for president he realizing that this is a republican-friendly crowd. it's a crowd that he would like to convert to his voters. you know, the police took -- they had a high presence, but a much softer touch than we would have seen in new york here. so he's one of -- we just -- >> you think that's directly tied to his -- >> you i think the approach is
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want to police this but don't make people mad because the miami pd are identified with the mayor, a republican about to announcement we had will herd on. you have a 45-year-old mayor of a big city. you see this field growing with people with very different voices from the ones that are dominating. >> thank you, guys, very much. new poll finds employees are stressed and bored with work. at record levels. harry enten, who is not either of those things, promises us. he is here with this morning's number. >> he is not stressed, bored or old. >> no. >> yeah, a hugger. harry's a hugger. maybe this will help with some of those workplace problems. there as friends inspired coffee house opening up, you have seen these before, but not in new york city. it's going open doors later this year in boston according to "people" magazine. we'll be right back. >> come on, you're single, have
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15 minutes late. i use the side door. no one can see me. and after that i sport of space out for about an hour. space out? >> yeah. i just stare at my desk but it looks like i'm working. >> if you are feeling burned out, you are not alone. new polling shows workers around the world are more stressed than ever, more disengaged with their work than ever. harry enten is here with this morning's number. >> this morning's number, 77% of workers have low engagement levels globally which cost the world economy nearly $9 billion. look at this. employees who have a lot of daily stress globally, 44% in
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2022. that is up from 2009 when it was just 8.1 -- sorry, 31% in 2009. this is leading to a lot of people quitting their jobs. record numbers quitting since 2001. look at that. nearly 51 million in 2022 in the united states. back in 2021, nearly 48 million. record numbers are quitting their jobs because they are not happy. >> is it just that they are not happy? there is something that can do -- be done to make people ha happier in their jobs? hrjts yeah. one of the workplace changes we can make and this is -- the changes to make your workplace better among the nonengaged, number one is changing the culture at 41%. pay and benefits 28%. well being 16%. for example, longer break times at work. but keep in mind this. there are still a lot of job openings per month. this year we are averaging 10 million. in 2022, it was 11 million.
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the victim of a deepfake kidnapping extortion plot is joining us to talk about that scam. used her daughter's voice and demanded money. $1 million in ransom money. jennifer destefano testified before congress to sound the alarm on the danger of artificial intelligence, urging lawmakers to regulate this unchartered territory before this happens to another family. >> it was my daughter's voice. it was her cries.
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it was her sobs. it was the way she spoke. i will never be able to shake that voice and desperate cries for help out of my minds. every parent's worst nightmare, knowing they are being harmed and you are helpless. the farther and more egregious it will become. there is no limit to the depth the evil can become. >> people not familiar your story, i want to point out you are safe. you were never in danger here. jennifer, though, you had no way of knowing that when you got the phone call. we hear the emotion in your testimony. just walk us through though if you would what those moments were like for you when you thought your daughter's life was hanging in the balance. >> yeah, i was terrorized even hearing myself speak. it still brings tears to my eyes. it was absolutely terrorizing. i was so helpless and i didn't know which way to turn, what to
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do, and i could hear her begging and crying for me with fear in background. >> you had your children around. there were friends around. they were able to get in touch with your husband and daughter, confirm she was okay, in facts it wasn't her voice. do you have any idea how these scammers may have gotten a hold of your voice? they certainly used it to convince your mom. >> i actually have no idea because we try to trace this back to my social media. but i really do not post videos of me using the actual voice and even if i did, they were from when i was younger and i have a mature voice, my voice was higher. but now i only post videos of me really just competing in sports. nothing using my voice. so it's really still a mystery to this day. >> does that scare you at all, bree? >> it does, because if they can get my voice in ways i don't know, what else could they do with my family, my mom?
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do they have my location? how can they get things and information out of this? >> and jennifer, you are searching for those answers. the police said there was nothing they could to at the time because no crime had actually taken place. what has it changed though for your family? >> it definitely opened my eyes. i had no idea the level of capabilities with a.i. we had a lot of conversations about you can't believe everything you see, everything you hear, a family code word, different types of security measurements now that we use. we are also hesitant if i don't recognize a number or someone reaches out, even when at&t reached out to try to find out more information about this, i didn't respond for weeks because i don't know who is really who and what's really real. >> sometimes it's cscary even t pick up the phone because there is the concern they may have your voice. when you testified before congress do you feel that you were heard by lawmakers?
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>> i do. i was very happy that both sides have come together on this. that gives me a lot of hope that it's a unified mission. senator -- it can too to upon himself to call the scottsdale police department and ask them what kind of protocol they have for other victims of this and they said again they were not able to do anything, since no crime was committed and he made a personal commitment that that will stop. i feel like this is actually finally being heard and action is going to be taken. >> do you have a sense of what that action may be? did they give you any indication? >> there has been a couple of different conversations. everything from watermarking so that they have traceability. it's hard to trace at the moment. some different types of things. it's really hard to put your hands around exactly what can be done in a sense that it's so vast and so wide and what'sard out there and how do you dial it back. a lot is trying to get ahead of
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it. there are a couple of different opportunities out there. >> brie, you mentioned what you post now, what you used to post, this confusion and a big mystery over how they got your voice. how has this impacted you, if it has, and the way you go about your daily life? >> it's impacted me in my everyday life by being more cautious. i am more tedious just even going out places by myself or just having that plan of action, you know, like what if this actually does happen, just having things with me for protection and just being more aware. >> jennifer and brie destefano, appreciate you taking the time to join us this morning and to share your story. i know it is still painful but also so helpful for so many families. thank you. >> thank you so much for having us. >> thank you so much. > this is game changing in s many ways. you can already imagine going into a political season about the fakes and deep fakes that
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are going to be available, you know, from a.i. you can then attach that to mischief here on the ground to what are the russians and the north koreans and the chinese going to do with that. but if you get right down to a crime like this, this is -- i mean, the story they just told about a parent hearing the phone ring and hearing a child cry in the background, i messed up, i need help and this voice coming on. the keys are, the object of the person demanding the money, their job is to keep you on the phone, unbroken, they want you to transfer funds they don't want you to pick up the phone and find out your daughter is upstairs doing her homework. so the first thing is to figure out does this have the signs of one of the scams. this story is really important in recognizing that. you want to say i'm not sure this is real.
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ask her what her cousin kelly's dog's name is, things they haven't factored in there. >> smart. >> the technology is really affecting crime in ways that are so unanticipated. i had a kidnapping in the nypd where the person was missing and the ransom demands were coming in, we were looking for a drop with airplanes and surveillance teams and the ransom was to be sent by bitcoin so now you don't have a ransom drop. bitcoin, what do we do with that in terms of where are the kidnappers, the victims. so the challenges will keep coming. to legislate against it you have to first understand it. we're just getting the surface. >> any time there's a new technology, criminals swarm to it and then it's an arm race with officials catching up. part of it is just education it's important to hear the experience they just had. >> our kids are the same age, we
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have a word, if you need me to pick you up at a party, this is my i won't embarrass you as a parent, this is where you need to ask that word. i'm going to ask that word on the phone to know it's you. will hurd was telling us in the break, this is something that that he's really leaning into. do you see politicians leaning into this because americans are concerned about it? >> yeah. >> are they going to be able to speak to it in the way they need to and as informed they need to be. >> they're doing their homework and maying catch up. but you had the white house, and president biden and vice president kamala harris meeting with ceos of the companies to find out where the risks are and benefits because the benefits out weigh the risks they feel. >> mark zuckerberg when he started facebook, move fast and
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break things. and obviously he's reassessed since. that's not how someone like sam altman is approaching this. it's different and he and others are calling for regulation now not after they've taken heat but now. som should that give us hope? >> i think so. you're just seeing the machine moving now, congress is having hearings, the white house is having hearings so you're seeing it in motion. stay tuned more to come. >> thank you guys, very, very much. >> how long would it take you to solve a rue biks cube? days, weeks, a lifetime? that would be me. for one 21-year-old it was a matter o of seconds. we'll show you the video next. ♪ to guide you through a changing world. ♪ up to 8 weeks of relief with cytopoint. that's a lot more fun time, right max?
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>> 3.134. a new title holder solving the original 3 by 3 rubik's cube. solved it in the fastest time ever. take a look at this. >> yes! >> yes, indeed. 21-year-old max park. he broke the record in long beach, california over the weekend. 3.13 seconds. seconds. it takes me longer to just turn the thing let alone solve it. >> he's no stranger to setting impossible records he holds the fastest times in multiple other cube solves. didn't know that was a thing. he's also diagnosed with autism
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and his parents say cubing is good therapy since he was a little kid. >> when he was 7, 8, 9 years old, he couldn't hold pennies or open a water bottle he couldn't do anything with his fingers. the cube itself was going to be an exercise. the competitive aspect was never a component for us to get max involved with. >> so uplifting. he serves as an official ambassador for rubik's, an inspiration to so many. what a great ending to the show. >> i love that, a lovely way to end our day. >> we'll see you tomorrow. >> we'll still be working on it. >> it'll still look like this. cnn "news central" starts now. >> i love that you got this. >> thank you, guys. >> thanks, guys. ♪
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