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the republican field is getting bigger today. so is former president trump's war chest. raking in millions in the quake of his indictment. more on that and who just jumped into this race. and blowing the whistle on artificial intelligence. a survey of 119 ceos shows more than 40% are worried ai could destroy humanity in just five to ten years. what? you're following these major developing and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central". ♪ we're following major developments in the 2024 republican presidential primary.

beginning with republican front-runner donald trump and the legal strategy he's using, or not using, in his classified documents indictment. the "washington post" reports that the former president rejecting his attorney's push to hammer out a deal with the doj in an effort to avoid charges. today trump announced his first rally since that unprecedented indictment dropped as one more challenger entered the already crowded primary. we're covering every angle of these stories with cnn senior legal affairs correspondent paul reid, cnn national xpoernt kristen holmes and cnn national correspondent jessica dean. paula, you first. literally as we were getting started this hour we're hearing first time from the controversial jump eileen cannon overseeing this classified documents case. >> reporter: that's right. first time entered an appearance in this court case and she is directing the lawyers both for the government and for the trump team to consult with the justice department and expedite all necessary clearances for all team members. she wants an update by june

20th. this is kind of standard procedural stuff. right? you have proper clearances, because it's a national security case dealing with sensitive, classified information. the fact this is moving on quickly. right? just in court two days ago. giving a timeline of five days. so significant, because we've been saying a key way she can influence this case is through timing, and that's in ways big and small and one is scheduling. right? if you want to wait a week to make an announcement, give people another few weeks, a way to potentially work against the special counsel who wants a speedy trial. two days out, first time hearing from her, the arraignment. five days to update me on clearances. >> hearing from trump's team want to pump the brakes make it take as long as possible, and getting new information about that "washington post" reporting regarding an attempted deal by one of trump's attorneys to try to avoid this entire mess.

one that reportedly trump rejected? >> reporter: exactly. reportedly is the key word. our own reporting casts doubt whether his attorney, actually present p representing him in florida, whether he really pushed to broker a deal with the justice department early on. it's possible that he and trump had a private conversation which would be privileged, but the rest of the legal team was no privy to these discussions and not clear he would be the fwoun approach doj. we know the former president received conflicting advice from advisers how cooperative to be with the justice department. we also know the problem hasn't been completely transparent with advisers. hiding documents from investigators but hiding them from his own lawyer, but end of the day, the advice won out, advice from many people including head of judicial watches, reporting back in august, to fight, fight, fight. that's the prevailing wisdom he followed and partly how he got himself in this current situation.

>> fascinating getting into the inner workings of this fight and political front, this indictment financially a boom for him. >> reporter: right. waiting to see what this looks like. knew they had a huge boon after that manhattan indictment. that was good for them. weren't sure what this would look like, because are people going to get tired of this idea he keeps getting indicted. was that initial shock going to wear off and told after that big rush after the manhattan indictment that there had been lagging numbers. this is a big deal for them. seeing $7 million, what they've brought in in fund-raising just since the indictment was announced and most coming from digital fund-raising. small dollar donors. that is what trump's team has said was going to carry them through this. that is what we are seeing right now, but, again, this model of getting money every time you get an indictment and no money in between doesn't seen sustainable or we don't know because it's such an unprecedented situation. >> and also a bump in polling

after that first indictment. still probably too early to say what kind of bump he might get in polling now. looking at rest of the republican field, though, as he leads in polling, another entrant in the 2024 race. >> reporter: another day and field expends again. miami's mayor, francis suarez. two-time mayor in miami. his pitch is that he really feels like he should be running in this race, that he is uniquely positioned to do this. obviously got name recognition to make up. right? you have donald trump. ron desantis also coincidentally both from florida as well. he's now the miami mayor, and they've -- been at odds with one another. at odds with ron desantis and donald trump over the years. we are expecting to hear him speak later today at the reagan library out in california and will hear more of his message, but something else to keep in mind when getting into this late. the first debate, remember, august 23rd. just a couple months. the rnc set limits and different

places that they need to, different markers to meet to be on that debate stage. for somebody like this that isn't known across the country, he was head of the mayor's council, bipartisan mayor's council travel around the country, isn't widely known, doesn't have name recognition. you need to do a lot to get on the stage. that's really important. >> asking for $1 doanations to meet the fleshhold of donors to make it to the debate stage. jessica, perspective from an outsider on the republican president many field in form fer fret barack obama. >> yes. very interesting to hear him weigh in on this. it's not often that we hear him talking about politics much anymore. it's from time to time. obviously very active during the midterm elections but talked agents about the gop. i'll let you listen. >> if a republican who may even be sincere in saying i want us

all to live together, doesn't have a plan for, how do we address crippling generational poverty that is a consequence of hundreds of years of racism in this society? and we need to do something about that. now, we can't just ignore all that and pretend as if everything's equal and fair. we actually have to walk the walk. not just talk the talk. >> reporter: we'll hear more from this ever-expanding republican field. always interesting to hear the former president, barack obama, weighing in on this. of course, the man that took over after him, that succeeded him, also running yet again. quite an interesting dynamic, but we're looking ahead now to see what suarez says later tonight and then, of course, just to all of your reporting. this x factor. what does the ex-president's newest indictment mean and messaging around it and what does it look like ever closer to

the first debate? >> shadow looms large over this primary process. thank you all. covered a lot of are grounds. thanks for joining us. the u.s. military just announcing that these f-22 fighter jets right here have been deployed to the middle east because of concerns about unsafe and unprofessional behavior by russian pilots there. this is a move that is coming as the u.s. says there's ban recent increase in aggressive flights by russia in the region. joining us now to talk a little bit about what this all means, we have retired u.s. air force colonel cedric leighton. walk us through this. tell us why the u.s. is deploying these f-22 raptors? start by looking at capabilities you can take us through. >> absolutely. the f-22 is really an air superiority fighter way top speed, it says here, 1,500 miles per hour. ceiling height 6,500 feet and

easily fly over 1,800 miles in distance. key thing. key things they're going after, incidents like this. su-35 jets from the russian air force attacking the f 16s, doing maneuvers as if they were attacking f 16s and coming in as if they were going to do a dogfights. you can see from the gun camera footage right here. so what that means is that they're engaged in maneuvers that are really dangerous to the f 16s that are currently deployed over syria. we're bringing a far more capability aircraft, f-22 in to view that. >> when you look at numbers of this, since the beginning of march russia has violated those deconfliction protocols 85 times. i mean, that's a lot. we can't forget as you pull up this next slide that the u.s. has a military presence here. >> right. 900 service members based in syria right now. in various locations throughout the country.

prime merely the northeast and eastern part of the country. what this really means is that we not only have to protect the skies and the types of deconfliction protocols we've worked out since the syrian civil war, but also we have to protect the forces on the ground. special operations forces are there. folks who are handling relations with the kurdish forces, all kitically important pieces of the element right here in syria. >> these aggressive actions now we're seeing them over syria in these astounding numbers. we have been seeing them as well over ukraine. >> absolutely and with the black sea right next to ukraine. you may remember this is the footage of an su-27 going after a drone. this is footage from the mq9 reaper approached by the russian jet and the russian fighter is dumping fuel all over it, ended up destroying the drone because it had to be crashed, if was no

longer serviceable. >> international waters. over international waters. right? >> exactly right. international waters, international airspace. when it comes to syria, airspace that was de conflicted between the u.s. and russia. so these are the kinds of things that shouldn't be happening and what the russians are doing is extremely dangerous. >> russia tried to make a distinction, part of their special exercise area, but it's them labeling the area. last month as we talked about some of the things going on in ukraine and talk about the capabilities now that ukraine has, ukraine claimed it took down six hypersonic russian missiles. kin sahl missiles with the u.s. patricia air defense system. tell us why this is such a big deal? >> a really big deal because this missile was advertised as a hypersonic missile basically that means goes faster than mach 5 or five times speed of sound. the patriot, it was thought, could not handle this kind of

capability, but the, turns out these patriot missiles are actually capable of going after the kinjaw missiles to handle altitude an speed that the kinjaw flies at. when putin talked about this and other hypersonic missiles touted as wep answer that could basically take out nag could not be defended against. turns out not to be true. >> a game changer? how do you see it? >> a game changer able to shoot down this, or ukraines were able to shoot down this missile. that's a big, big thing. it means the russian weapons systems aren't as capable as advertised and our weapons systems so far are better than advertised. >> colonel, thank you for taking us through this. boris? still to come, the prosecutor in the pittsburgh synagogue shooting says the defendant "hunted his victims." more on the closing arguments that just got under way. and we're live in greece, where hundreds are still missing an a migrant boat sank. what greek authorities are

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president biden at an event at the white house talking about cracking down on junk fees. calling this white house initiative "a win for consumers." several companies will now present the fees they charge for different kinds of tickets up front allowing consumers more choice and more transparency when making financial decisions. brianna? >> closing arguments are now under way in the trial over the worst anti-semitic attack in u.s. history that left the 11 people that you see behind me here dead. always because prosecutors say of their faith. robert bowers could get death for the tree of life synagogue massacre back in 2015. he presented no witnesses after 60 were called for prosecution. cnn's danny freeman has been following the trial over the last several weeks. danny, tell us what happened today. so far. >> reporter: well, brianna, active day in court so far. just learned actually the government finished its rebuttal. so the jury should be getting this case momentarily, but i

want to run through some of the things we heard today in closing arguments from both the prosecution and the defense. first prosecution, really tried to paint a contrasting picture earlier this morning of an otherwise peaceful day in a synagogue on a rainy saturday morning, october of 2018 with then the moment that rob bowers, the defendant, quoting from the prosecution, turned a sacred house of worship into a hunting ground. the prosecution further said bowers killed jewish people just because they were jewish. prosecution this morning continued to show some of the most graphic horrible images of the victims mp the synagogue shooting. they were, again, visceral, brutal. showed, played some 911 calls we've heard throughout the past two and a half week of this trial as well and actually had a view this time in the courthouse of family members and some victims who survived this attack as well. all the while sat still, very intently listening to the prosecution. then took a lunch break. then this afternoon the defense

brought up its case and, rather its closing argument. the defense spoke less than 25 minutes. the defense said there is no dispute that bowers was the one who killed those worshippers. instead the defense tried to say that his motives were in question here. that he did not kill these people because they were jewish, but because one of the congregations, one of the three present at the tree of life, supported a refugee group, and that this mass killing was more about immigrants and not specifically about jewish people. as i said, prosecution then made a rebuttal statement basically saying to the jury, disregard that. that is not whooped what happe. this is about this man trying to kill jewish people and it's going to the jury momentarily. >> watching agency you have for weeks. thank you for that report from pittsburgh. boris. following a major story overseas. a tragedy unfolding in europe. one of the largest-scale migrant vessel disasters ever.

officials say at least 78 people are dead after a boat carrying hundreds of migrants sank off the coast of greece early on wednesday morning. authorities are now blaming a sudden shift in weight for the ship wreck. more than 100 people rescued and recovering now in a makeshift warehouse. let's take you there live with cnn's melissa bell. emergency workers are struggling to contain some of the fallout here. >> reporter: that's right. it's been an absolutely shocking day here in this area. first of all, boris, because there have been survivors that have been traumatized deep buy what they've seen and the ongoing search for some of those who have at this stage lost their lives. we now think, we're coming up to the nearly 48-hour mark since this boat sank. that the details of survivors bring, the boat sank within 10 to 15 minutes with, boris, 100

children in the hold of the boat. many of the women down there as well. the survivors were the ones at the very top of this overcrowded boat. also hearing conflicting accounts of exactly what happened. the greek coast guard explaining that they had tried to bring rescue to the boat but it been told by the boat -- the people on it, the migrants, and the ones shepherding they didn't want help and wanted to go all the way to italy. one who patrolled these waters say in fact what they understand happened is that both greek and italian coast guards were given warning that the boat was in distress and it was several hours later that any attempts were made to try and rescue it. in the end, some 700 people may have lost their lives, boris, in what is one of the worst catastrophes to strike the greek coast. they say that it's the biggest operation certainly this country ever launched. what we're seeing here, a progressive closing of board is. countries like greece and europe

and long calling for europe's external boreds to be tighter. eu moving in that direction and those ngos trying to prevent people from drowning in what has become the deadliest migrant route in the world say that that could lead to many more of these disasters to come, boris and brianna. >> melissa bell reporting from greece. thank you. brianna. since the debt ceiling deal included a spending agreement lawmakers are gearing up for a knockdown drag-out fight this fall. we'll tell you why and how it will once again test speaker kevin mccarthy's leadership skills next. also ahead, a cnn exclusive. more than 40% of ceos surveyed believe artificial intelligence could destroy humanity, get this, in five to ten years. the coach. the manager. and the snack dad. all using chase to keep up with their finances. the coach helpss save goals here, because she saved for soccer camp there. anddd check ththis out...

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was going to work in the fall, but he got a lot of heat and a lot of pushback from members in the right flank of his conference who argued they wanted to right their legislation, their spending bill at a lower level. so on monday night there was an announcement from the house appropriations chairwoman kay granger they would markup all of their bills in the house of representatives at this lower level. that reflects spending from fiscal year 2022. meanwhile, senators will write their bills to the levels that were agreed in the debt ceiling negotiations which is more than $100 billion apart. at some point they have to come together because government runs out of funding october 1st setting it's stage for a major clash between not just republicans and democrats but between the house and the senate. i talked to a number of senate republican whose were absolutely shocked that this was the state of where things were going. in fact, mitt romney a republican told me -- excuse me,

senator lisa murkowski, certainly makes things much, much more complicated. mitt romney told me, "the house likes to do things for messaging purposes. they infrequently reach the senate floor, but when they do, they have to pass with republican and democrats." even some moderate republican whose serve on the operations commoperations -- pappropriations committee it's setting them you are for a cligs. whoever hamps in the house, a slim majority supporting all 12 appropriations bills, what comes back from the snoot will look very differ. what this means for the american public is a very, very messy faum and a lot of questions if the government will be funded by october 1st. >> yeah. important for these two sides to come to a deal to keep the government running to keep it open and funded. lauren fox from little, thanks so much. brianna. some of the country's top business leaders issuing a stark warning about the dangers of artificial intelligence saying

that ai could terminate all of humanity in the next five to ten years. we have cnn's matt egan breaking this exclusive story for us. matt, tell us about this survey, because five to ten years, it almost makes my eyes pop out of my head. >> reporter: it does, brianna. almost feels like we're living in a sci-fi mother and charactering are just now realizing the machines they're building to actually hurt them. yale asked 100 ceos a several but kind of scary question. can ai wipe out humanity? now, the good news relatively speaking is that more than half. 58% say, no. no way. never. never could this happen, but 8% say, yes. potentially after five years and 34% said, say potentially in ten years. add it up. 42% saying ai poses a potential existential risk not decades

into the future but the next five to ten years. crazy to hear that. yale professor jeff son feldt told me he found these findings to be "dark and alarming." none of this is to say that ai itself is evil. we know that it has great potential here to transform health care and education and transportation. i mean, anyone who's used chatgbt for a few minutes can see enormous potential, but we're hearing more and more warnings from the business community and from tech leaders, recently we heard from jeffrey hidden, the godfather of ai. he came out saying there is a risk that ai gets so smart that it could manipulate humans and, ge t

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critical to mitigate the risk of increasingly powerful models. so the stakes here are clearly grave, brianna. it's very important for lawmakers to realize that while the rewards around ai are great, the risks are, too. >> yes. and very scary. matt egan, thank you for taking us through that. i think -- i think thank you. maybe. sort of thank you. boris? still to come on "cnn news central," investigators are trying to solve a mystery in mexico after an american woman and an unidentified man were found dead in a hotel room. why officials believe they were poisoned. and pope francis set to be released from the hospital more than a week after getting abdominal surgery. more on that, straight ahead. the subway series is getting an upgrade!

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now to some of the other headlines we are watching this hour. the department of justice will launch an investigation into the controversial deal between the pga tour and the saudi-backed liv golf league. this is accordsing to new reporting from the "wall street journal." the reported probe will be looking into any violations of antitrust laws in this proposed deal. also, republican texas governor greg abbott signed a bill banning diversity, equity and inclusion offices and initiatives in colleges and universities across the state. this is a bill that includes an exception for equity measures and required by a court or federal law. and north korea launched two short-range ballistic missiles into waters east of the korean peninsula according to south korea's joint chiefs of staff. japan's defense ministry says they landed inside of japan's exclusive economic zone. just about 100 mimes from the

shoreline there. the u.s., japan and south korea issueds a trilateral statement condemning the launch. boris? new today, two americans were found dead at a luxury resort in mexico. cause of death is now under investigation. for the latest, we go to cnn's josh campbell. what do we know so far? >> reporter: the u.s. state department confirmed with our colleague these were two american citizens. mexican officials say found dead in a hotel tuesday at the resort village of el tuscadero. authorities believe dead 10 to 11 hours. an autopsy conducted and mex kei officials say some type of poison killed them. we don't know if that means drugs, carbon monoxide, issues in the past americans dieing in carbon monoxide incidents. a statement issued, actively investigating the situation and safety and security of guests and colleagues remain as top priority as always and were

confirm no evidence of violence related to the situation and not aware of threats to guests' safety or well-being. atalked to a law enforcement source, no foul play at this point. >> and you worked overseas investigations involving deaths 6 americans abroad. what would it take to get the fbi involved here? >> reporter: it would be some suspicion there was foul play. if they were murdered. death at the hands of another essentially. the fbi has permanent agents stationed in mexico that work with mexican officials every single day. they're there and ready. also what's called an tra terr extratertdal. launched if there's a suspicious death. no fbi involvement at this poins and mex kaine officials continue to investigate, thanks, josh campbell from los angeles. republican senator tommy tuberville says holding up

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no, american military general officers have been promoted since march. there is one senator who is blocking more than 250 promotions and refusing to budge on this, and we are talking about the republican from alabama tommy tuberville, and he says that he won't change his mind until the pentagon changes

its policies on providing travel costs and time off for receiving abortion or reproductive care. now, some of the officials including some of his fellow republicans in the senate say that holding up the promotions have become a national security problem. this is what tuberville said a moment ago. >> my hold will remain in place, and i will keep my hold until the pentagon follows the law, and congress changes law, and these jobs are being done as we speak. they are not empty. four months into this situation, it is obvious that people are doing the job. it is not affecting our readiness. anyone who says otherwise is wrong. >> we are now joined by national security spokesman retired admiral john kirby with us from the white house, and what do you

say to that, sir? he says that anyone who says that this is affecting readiness is wrong. >> well, we obviously have a different opinion here, and the fact is that when you hold up this many admirals and generals, what you are doing is to freeze certain commands and certain organizations way they are, and when you start to stop having these admirals and generals and move on and some of them retire, the other people are not in right acting capacities and not having the authority they need to execute the jobs, and not the mention the immense disruption to military families. here is summertime, the biggest move time, and it is the time that we try to get families settled before school, and they are not allowed to move or buy new houses or get settled before school, and whether you are a general, admiral, soldier or

sailor, and you are a family, and the family's ability to accommodate the military life is a big factor for you to stay in the service and keep serving the country, and it is a ridiculous hold and it is having an enormous effect four months in, and if he continues to do it, it is going to be a dramatic hold going forward. >> can you be specific as to the military readiness looks like? >> if you are freezing an officer in command, and say you are a three-star and up for promotion to four and if you can't make that move and there is no way out of the situation, you may decide to leave the service, and that can happen, you know, with the multiple numbers of officers which means that now, we don't have that senior talent pool available to fill up the upper ranks when

this is release and the talent pool is smaller, and the talented pool in the upper echelons is available to us, and not to mention that in some jobs when you have to put somebody in there as an acting capacity, the officer that is promoting out decides to leave the service, and that acting officer may not have the authorities that he or she needs to do the jobs because they are in an acting capacity, and that is one aspect of the readiness, and don't shake off, and i know that you don't, brianna, because the military spouse, too, but people should not shake off the impact that this is going to have on the families, and the family's willingness to have endured the willingness over the long term. >> and this is on the higher end of this that are going to affect the security when it is coming to the seventh fleet, and you are looking at the activity of the taiwan fleet, and the iranian fleet and the military representative to the nato representative and the u.s.

support of the ukraine and these are big looks at what he wants to talk to lloyd austin and what is the engagement of the pentagon and the white house and the senator here? >> well, i can't speak for the department of defense or secretary austin and to what degree he and his staff have reached out to senator tuberville, and i know that there are conversations over there, and i don't know the status of it. we support secretary austin in maintaining the flexibility for female service members in certain states that are reproductive laws that are supportive of other states supporting the defense department's ability to get the reproductive needs they need, and so we are 100% in support of the needs they need. i had the opportunity to speak

to military spouses, and unequivocally, they said it is an issue for them as they are thinking of moving along in the service with their spouse in the military, and where that spouse is assigned is a factor for them. >> john, i hear you on that, but i wanted to get to the heart of how you actually break up this issue, because you know that senator mitch mcconnell has broken with senator tuberville, and you have cornyn and ernst who have tried to offer alternatives to drop this issue, and they agree with you on the issue of readiness, and he is still trying to rebuff all of them, and so what do you do? do you reach out to republicans? do you rely on them for more pressure on them, and what do you do to sort of break the fever there? >> we are having members of the republican members of the senate

there in particular, and i don't know the status of senator tuberville, and there is something for the defense department to speak to, and we urge and encourage other members of the senate on the republican side to put enough pressure on senator tuberville to lift the hold. we are grateful for the work that the other republican senators have done to find a way through this, and to urge senator tuberville to release the hold, and we would urge even more to do that, and there has to be a break in the impasse, because it has and will continue to have extended effects on the readiness. >> is that is going to hang up the nomination for the chairman of the joint chiefs? >> it could. i mean, it absolutely could if he does not lift this hold. people need to understand the chairman of the joint chiefs is a statutory set of terms. so, years that he serves in a term, and general milley, by

law, he has to retire on september 30th, and so it is possible that we won't have a hold if this persists by the joint chief of staff, and why that had to matter is because it is the senior most military officer in the land, and he is the direct military adviser, and to the secretary of defense, and he is not in the command, and the key adviser, and pulling in all of the counsel of all of the generals and service, and denying the president and counsel if senator tuberville does not lift the hold, and this is the effectiveness no doubt about it. >> john kirby at the white house, and we appreciate your taking time to talk to us about it, and we will be right back after a break.k. hey bud. wow. what's all this?

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