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"outfront" next, the trump pinted judge making her first ruling in the classified documents case. is it a sign she's not stepping aside? new details about the judge. why a case she's working on now could shed light on how she'll rule in trump's case. plus, a graveyard of russian missiles. ukrainians utilizing putin's deadliest weapons. what they found may surprise you. a special report. and where is melania and ivanka and the family? trump's 2024 campaign is anything but a family affair. let's go "outfront." and good evening. i'm erin burnett. no recusal. the judge who was appointed by trump and is presiding over the classified documents case issuing her first order. a sign she has no plans to heed the calls to recuse herself. ordering both parties to start the process of obtaining security clearances for their
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lawyers by tomorrow. it comes as there are mounting questions about her record in past cases. the judge, who was piappointed 2020, has little experience in overseeing criminal trials and according to politico, the most common cases she's handled as a judge has been for what's called reentry of deported alien. routine matters that have nearly all resulted in plea deals and sentences raging up to 1.5 years. in fact, according to the "new york times" analysis of the database, of the 224 criminal cases assigned to canon, as we said, four of those only went to trial and of those four, it was only 14 trial days in all. there's one fraud case according to politico that she has been overseeing for the past year and a half and there are significant parallels to the trump case. so we're going to have more on that in a moment. but above all, it is her decision of course to with trump last year in this case that is leading many to fear she will be
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sefr sympathetic to trump. she granted his case to a special master to review documents seized at his mar-a-lago home. trump posted remember, it takes courage and guts to fight a corrupt department of justice and fbi. the reality of course is that her decision of course was overwh overwhelmingly derided by a conservative appeals court. evan perez is "outfront" in washington to begin our coverage. evan, obviously we've got this order from judge canon. significant, we heard nothing today. what does it mean for the case? >> we've been watching for any sign of how this judge is going to handle this case and look, the former president and his legal team we expect they're going to try to draw this out. they want to make this process, the pretrial process, go as long as possible. with this order, she seems to be trying to move things very quickly. at least for now.
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she ordered them to report to a police, begin by tomorrow. by friday. the process for applying for security clearances for these lawyers that are going to represent the former president. we know that at least the two lawyers who appeared with him at the arraignment, they say they're going to be with this case through appeals possibly. we do know however that the former president is still looking to add lawyers to his legal team so we know that the judge is ordering that by june 20th, next week, that they need to report, they've initiated the process to get security clearances. the justice department has to provide those clearances so these lawyers can see the evidence. some of these classified documents in this case. the other thing that's pending is that the justice department has to provide the former president's legal team with a list of witnesses that he is
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supposed to make sure he doesn't discuss this case with. and we are not likely to see that list. at least not for now. but it will give the former president at least an indication of the type of witnesses, the people, that the justice department might be trying to use when they go to trial whenever that is. the idea though that the judge is hitting the ground running is quite interesting because again as you pointed out, she's been quite sympathetic to the former president in the past and we'll see whether this continues. whether the issue of moving quickly continues going forward. >> right. that's the crucial question. and we watch and see and see what she does. evan, thank you very much. i want to go to kyle cheney. senior legal affairs reporter for politico along with abbey phillip, the anchor of inside politics sunday and mark zaid, national security attorney. mark, let me start with you. just to understand this as evan's laying out.
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the judge issuing her first order in the trump case. didn't appear to be any delay in that, right, so the order comes. do you think that there's any real chance at this point that she recuses herself? >> it would seem unlikely. based on the fact that she has now seized the bull by its horns and moved forward in an act that good for her. for issues this order. i don't know if it was necessary to do. i would suspect the trump team and justice department have already begun these types of conversations. at least they have been because this is the obvious next step for the attorneys to start the clearance process which could frankly take weeks or months though unlikely that long. depending on what's in each of their backgrounds. >> right. but obviously she moved to do it, right? right away. just saying moving on that. kyle, you've been going through her background. so to try to understand, going through the bloomberg law angel
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analysis, everything to understand more than the data point, the ruling earlier in this case that was overturned. what have you found? >> she's sort of a creature of the justice department. the only thing people really know about her is that she ruled to favorably to trump in the civil case he brought last year. she spent midost of her career a justice department and was put on the bench in 2020. she's had little experience. only four trials as a judge and only four trials as an assistant u.s. attorney, a prosecutor. so her resume is very thin and now she's taking on what could be one of the most complex cases ever and so it's really going to be quite a learning curve. >> so abbey, she was nominated by trump, we know that, but she wasn't actually confirmed until he lost the 2020 election and you know, it should note reporting at the time noted the is that the seemed to take it easy on her because each party was focused on other nominees at the time.
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so the bottom line ends up being this. she was confirmed by a bipartisan vote of 56-21. does this make it harder for anyone to complain? >> i don't think that people in congress really let any fact get in the way of making these kinds of arguments. political perspective but i do think that yeah, when i looked at that list of the democrats who voted for her, it includes people like senator chris coons from delaware and others. joe manchin. i think that at that time, as we all remember, there was a lot going on then but i also think there's another reason why democrats may want to take a beat before complaining too loudly about her and one of them is that the justice department decided to bring this case not only do florida but they checked the box on the form that gave her a pretty good chance of getting the case. she was one of just fewer than a handful of judges in the northern part of the district
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that could have gotten this case. so clearly, the justice department decided to do that for a strategic reason and at the end of the day, we don't know how it will turn out but that was their decision and they made it based on wanting to, needing to present a case that will actually succeed at the end of the day. >> so mark, we hear a lot about how a judge can affect the timeline of a case which in this case, could be everything. we talk about an election, possible pardons and someone running for president or not. so timeline is crucial. is that really the only way in which she can significantly impact the case or how else would you say we should be looking to see her affect? >> there are a lot of ways in which a trial judge can impact the process. one is just controlling the calendar. and appellate courts very rarely rain down on a district judge as far as how they control that calendar. so you could imagine many different ways. even some in the most
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insignificant ways having an impact. substantively, it could range as well. i anticipate there will be a motion to suppress certain evidence relating to one of trump's lawyers who will appear before the grand jury and attorney client privilege was pierced. she can rule on that and she may suppress some or all of that. that will be appealable by the prosecutors to the 11th circuit. she can make numerous rulings on many of the pretrial motions that will deal with the classified information procedures act. each of which could also be appealed. so the smallest things could pull this case even as i suspect the trump legal team will want, past the election of 2024. >> so, kyle, there is a specific case i mentioned that judge canon has been overseeing that you have been looking at in great detail that may provide a sense of what she might do.
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>> the one caveat is that massive healthcare fraud case she's been presiding over since early 2022. this is a ten-defendant case. five pleaded guilty. it's brought her into some extremely complex issues and rulings that some of which track closely to what we might see in the trump litigation, including a pending ruling in that case over whether to pierce attorney client privilege via the crime fraud exception. some buzz words in there, but that's one of the exact issues we expect to arise in the trump case. for all the talk about how little experience she has, she's actually been shepherding this other case through that may end up giving her some seasoning and some very precise parallels to what we're going to see in the trump litigation so that's one to watch for sure, too. >> absolutely. abbey, trump supporters on capitol hill obviously are laying out their plans to undermine the case against trump. they've been out in the air
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waves and here's some of what they said today. >> we should impeach merrick garland. he's clearly abusing the power of his position. we ought to impeach director wray as well. >> of course the congress would like the hear from jack smith as to why he thinks he can bring these charges against president trump. >> why would we fund a department of justice to a certain level if what they're going to do is use that money to do political targeting? i'm not interested in that. >> so impeach merrick garland, chris wray. call jack smith to testify. defund the doj. so does this go anywhere? >> probably not. i think that all of those representatives understand they get brownie points for upping the ante with the rhetoric when it comes to president trump. but the reality of the congress is totally different. they ran on impeaching the department of homeland security secretary and that hasn't happened in part because it's hard to see where the votes are
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going to come from. i think it's going to be even harder to pursue any of those things, whether it's impeachments or defunding. you're already hearing democrats basically turning all of this talk on its face and saying republicans accused us of defunding the police and now they want to defund the justice department. i think really at the end of the day, rhetoric is rhetoric but the reality of a five-seat majority in the house of representatives is going to really take most of those things off the table. >> thank you all very much. next, ukraine bragging about taking down putin's prized missiles. the ones that can travel at ten times the speed of sound. we have that and in a special report, we're going to take you to what's being called a graveyard of russian missiles and what's there. sam kylie found something surprising. plus, president obama calling out republicans when it comes to race. >> there may come a time when there's something in the republican party that is more serious about actually addressing some of the deep
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shooting down russia's most modern blast missiles. they've been touted by putin. they claim they've got hypersonic speed and that that makes it difficult to intercept. they carry a warhead of nearly 500 kilograms. these ukrainian success stories are far different than what russians are hearing on state television. i want to begin with matthew chance in moscow. let's just start with this because it's so important for the world to understand. to understand the russia's psyche, what they're thinking. what is the message that's being broadcast on russian state television and media? >> reporter: it's a good question because here in the russian capital, you do get an extraordinary perspective on the fighting and a very different one from the fighting that's taking place in ukraine where officials are talking about their progress on the battlefield. here, it's the complete opposite with russian officials and russian state media. sort of playing up the progress
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that russia is making saying the counteroffensive is being, is a failure so far. so you get a very different viewpoint from the moscow perspective. take a look at russian state television. with the presenter and a guest on the flag ship state television show basically talking about how disappointed ukraine must be and its western backers in the battlefield progress for ukraine so far. >> since there are no successes, kyiv's request for more weapons are already met with we will see. >> they're situation is hopeless. i can see many ukrainian political analysts are shouting swear words at zelenskyy. ten days and ukraine is suffering irreversible damage. >> irreversible damage is what the russians are calling this
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because it's still very early on in the counteroffensive but as you can see, the russian media is doing everything it can to play down any reports of ukrainian progress. >> it's been ramping up lately. the president of belarus this week claimed his country is ready, has received tactical nuclear weapons from moscow. has received them. saying they're three times more powerful than those dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki. the head of nato says there's no signs that russia's changed its nuclear posture, which would seem to imply that's false. what is the story line as you are seeing it covered in russia? >> the coverage of the nuclear issue at the moment is really front and center of lots of russia russian news broadcasts and media. you've had putin making thinly
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veiled nuclear threats once again restating he's about to send tactical nuclear missiles to belarus. russian state television has been granted extraordinary access inside belarus over the past couple of days with one of its main anchors here in russia getting a tour of the nuclear silos that are being prepared to take the missiles and speaking directly to the sort of strong man, prokremlin, hard line leader of belarus. who has been emphasizing on russian state television that the possibility of a russian nuclear strike is very real. take a listen. >> translator: will they press the button or not? hell, yes, they will press it. only in one case. if you make very dangerous movements such as invading the territory of russia, this will threaten the existence of russia. if you put putin against the
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wall or drive him into a corner, and there is no other way out, you can only escape a corner in one direction. then wait for it. >> yes. saber rattling. posturing. very concerning at the moment. >> absolutely. matthew chance, thank you very much. live in moscow tonight. matthew's reporting comes as ukraine says it forces have taken over 100 square kilometers. sam is "outfront" live from kyiv tonight. what is the latest on the front line? >> reporter: well they have, this is the ukrainians, they have pushed significant salient of land, pushed the russians back announcing a three kilometer advance. they're claiming 100 square kilometers there and on the zaporizhzhia front on the southeast of the country.
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but very importantly i think from their perspective of being these commitments that have come from europe and the united states to reup and even increase the amount of short to medium range missiles because that will give them the edge or potential defense against the ariel dominance that the russians enjoy on the front line in mateterms of aircraft but here in places like kyiv and across the country, ukrainians have been dealing with the consequences of the immense numbers of missiles that have been fired at this country. we took a look at an investigation into those missiles and what they can do. a graveyard of russian missiles fired at ukraine, creating misery and mayhem. they're stored and analyzed here in kyiv where authorities have determined that russia will pay for its evil ingenuity. here, the latest mass
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destruction by a russian cruise missile adding to a mounting civilian toll. this strike, russia's determination to overwhelm and distract ukraine's defenses. alexander's telling me these two missiles, enormous and complex though they are, are actually decoys. they're used by the russians to fire over enormous ranges trying to distract the ukrainian air defenses so that other more dangerous missiles can get through. alexander's ministry is tracing, cataloging and costing the result of russia's missile a attacks. each weapon has its own history, like these that carry half a ton of explosives. this is the sort of missile that hit the station killing more than 50 people. five of the dead were children.
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and scores were injured. all waiting for a train to escape the war. the latest official estimates suggest that russia's destruction of ukraine will cost $441 billion. but the human cost is incal cuable. help with air defense has been vital. this is what remains of what russia says is it's most potent missile. supposedly a hypersonic traveling up to ten times the speed of sound and alexander's very pleased to point out that this is where it was hit. by the ukrainian countermissile batteries. top of their list is the u.s. made patriot. but among the most troublesome russian weapons is this iranian shy drone. look at that. that is the engine of a shiad. sounds like a lawn mower because it basically is a lawn mower en
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engine similar. they dismantle the drones, analyze their computer and navigation systems and time and again, find foreign made systems inside despite sanctions. the aircraft has 40 kilograms of high explosives on board. down here in russian, there's a play on words. on one flap, it says do not touch. but by removing one letter, translates into not brothers. a message to the ukrainians. one that's often delivered loud and all too clearly. now in the message coming from the ukrainians to the international community is one of thanks for the antimissile missile systems that have knocked down those missiles that are being investigated and costed and there will be reparations demanded or are, by ukraine to pay for the damage done by these missiles but above all, they're saying to the international community that the efforts to stop the component of
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these missiles has to be stepped up. >> it's fascinating. do not touch. remove one letter becomes not brothers. really fascinating when you were with that drone. thanks so much. next, former president obama gets candid about how some in his own party talk about race. >> we have tended add times on the progressive side to tip into kind of a scolding, social etiquette police. >> the former president on the ax files and the republican mayor of miami jumping into the race for president, pitching himself as the next generation for the republican party. so who exactly is frances suarez?
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tonight, barack obama taking on republican presidential candidates for trying to down play racial inequality in the united states. the former president calling on republicans to present quote, an honest accounting of our past and present. >> if somebody's not proposing both acknowledging and proposing elements that say no, we can't just ignore all that and pretend as if everything's equal and fair. we actually have to walk the walk. and not just talk the talk. if they're not doing that, then i think people are rightly skeptical. there may come a time where there's somebody in the
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republican party that is more serious about actually addressing some of the deep inequality that still exists in our society that tracks race and is a consequence of our racial history and if that happens, i think that would be fantastic. i haven't yet seen it. >> that was the former president responding in an interview with david axelrod to a question about tim scott has made a core part of his campaign. he said this on the view recently. >> one of the reasons why i'm on the show is because of the comments made on this show that the only way for a young african american kid to be successful in this country is to be the exception and not the rule. that is a dangerous offensive disgusting message to send to our young people today that the only way to succeed is by being the exception. i will tell you that if my life is the exception, i can't imagine -- >> it is. >> but it's not, actually. >> conversation continues. so let's have it here now.
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joe is a republican strategist and former u.s. senate candidate from new york. the former mayor of atlanta and former senior adviser to president biden. joe, let me start with you. just to put some numbers around this, sunny hostin responded with some numbers. take the median income for black households in america. $48,000 just about. for white households, $74,000. now obviously that's just one number right. not trying to answer everything with it. but while senator scott rightly celebrates his story, his background, are you comfortable saying that yesterday's exception is today's rule? or does the former president have a point? >> look, i think yesterday's exception is today's rule. the problem with that is today's rule is less than what people deserve given the founding documents of this nation. so i think what we end up having is a love language disconnect in our politics, which is that you have people saying the same thing differently.
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i think every republican including scott would agree with the notion there is generational neglect that occurs in minority communities. in new york city, $40 million behind in public housing. in new york city, public schools today more segregated than jim crow. republicans call that a political systemic problem. i think democrats call that a systemic racial problem. i think all are referring to the same thing and i think what republicans have an issue with is the sin text around the phrase which has a connotation that america is ir redeemably racist and that's what people push back on. not on the reality that no one should deny that racism is real. that we have work to do and i think there's a coalition of americans across the spectrum that can coalesce around that point. >> mayor bottoms. >> yeah, you know i think it's a necessary conversation. i think that when people attempt to erase history and act as if we don't still have issues based
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in race in this country, then it is problematic no matter what your party affiliation. i think what president obama said was spot on. there are issues that are based in systemic issues, whether it be generational poverty, whether it be life expectancy. whether it be high school graduation rates, incarceration rates. there are all huge gaps between african americans and white americans with the data and it's a conversation we all need to have and we can have. in georgia, i remember republican governor nathan deal pushed forward with very progressive criminal justice reform. this was a southern republican governor. so it can be done. we just have to have the will and people no matter their party affiliation needs to know that it's good for the country as a whole. >> yesterday's exception, today's rule. joe just to make sure we get to the bottom of it. black college students, lower
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six-year completion for any degree or certificate than any other racial group. it's way better than it was, yes, but yesterday's exception being today's rule. that doesn't seem fair either. >> look, i think there is missing context from what senator scott is saying. i think what ends up happening is that we layer our prejudices on the words of others. particularly when we disagree with them politically. so i can say yes, we can talk about the fact that in baltimore, we've got 23 different schools, not a single black child is proficient in math or reading. we can talk about the fact that across the country in syracuse, new york, the epicenter for child poverty per capita in this country. so, yes, we have real racial inequality in this country. we're really dealing with party orthodoxy where in the confines of a political election, we get comfort food from the masses from both political parties that don't want to have a true reckoning. >> mayor bottoms, to this point
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just talk about what has happened. obviously on the other side of the political spectrum. you heard senator scott oversimplifying. i don't want the put words in your mouth. how some republicans may see it. on the other side, it happens as well. the former president talked about that, he criticized how some democrats are talking about race issues saying they're alienating potential allies. here's what he said. >> we have tended at times on the progressive side to tip into kind of a scolding social etiquette police and virtue signaling our knee jerk assumption is if somebody doesn't say something the exact right way, we not only think it's our job to correct them and scold them, but we are making a judgment about their character and their intentions and i think that does make people feel under assault. >> mayor bottoms, survey came
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out in support for black lives matter. 51% say they support the movement. it was 67% in june of 2020. that's a huge plunge. do you agree with what the former president is saying? >> well, i think that anytime you have absolutes there is a danger. you have to give people the opportunity to make mistakes. we're human. we will all make mistakes and i think that's what president obama was speaking to. it doesn't mean you give people license to be hateful and to be disrespectful. but if someone says you know, i don't understand. i want to know better. i want to do better. i want to understand more. then i think we, it's incumbent upon all of us to give people that grace and to be forgiving of people. i think that's what the civil rights rights movement was all about. when you look at what dr. martin luther king jr. worked towards, it was about reconciliation and forgiveness. i don't think we, i think
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there's still an opportunity for that in our country no matter your party affiliation. >> thank you both. i really appreciate your time. you can listen to more of that interview on the ax files podcast. next, miami's republican mayor running for the white house as trump's historic trial takes place in his city. does he have a shot? and eric trump by his father's side this week as he faced a second indictment but where was melania or ivanka or anyone else? new reporting ahead. everyoyone: woo hoo! ensure with 25 vivitamins and mineralsls. enter the $10,00000 nourishing moments giviveaway. ♪ ♪ this is rochelle, who gives you a shot. ♪ ♪ rebecca is there when you feel not so hot. ♪ ♪ thiis larissa, who's feeling glown up. ♪ and this here is winnie, who zhuzhed up their cup. ♪ ♪ this is victoria, helpg women stay healthy. ♪ ♪ these are your kids, snacking snacks ♪
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tonight, republican miami mayor suarez is running quite literally as you see there, now for president. releasing this video hours before he makes his formal announcement tonight at the reagan library in california. he's relatively unknown outside his home state. he joins an already crowded field of republicans who are now hoping to defeat trump. >> america's so-called leaders confuse being loud with actually leading. all washington wants to do is fight with each other instead of fighting for the people that put them in office. >> the office mayor suarez wants next is a major step beyond the city of miami. >> i'm going to run for president. i'm going to run for your children and mine.
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>> the mayor is pitching himself as a problem solver. at age 45, representing a generational change for a party that's made inroads with latino voters. he's a late entry into the race. the first major latino candidate to enter the ever growing republican field. an underdog not just among the more known national figures, but also against his former floridians. but don't discount miami's mayor, says scott jennings. >> who was pete buttigieg before launching a campaign for president? nobody knew. he's now a household name. >> i will continue to follow the department of health protocol while i lead our government remotely. >> he's managed to snag national attention, tracking his covid diagnosis on social media.
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he's also butted heads with desantis and trump. asked this morning about trump's indictment -- >> it's not what i would have done. i would have turned over the documents. >> he repeatedly evaded the question. >> do you think it was reckless? >> i'm not an expert on these matters, but i want to say this, that this conversation is not a healthy conversation for the country. we should be talking about the issues that americans care about. not candidates being indicted. z >> as national candidate, jennings says suarez will have to talk about trump, the pace setter in the primary. >> a large field benefits donald trump if all the players stay in through all the voting. so if you go to iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and everybody's in the race and nobody blinks and wants to get out, that benefits donald trump because he's got the highest floor right now of anybody in the race. >> in just about one hour,
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suarez is scheduled to deliver his remarks just right behind me the campaign says he's going to be the kind of republican who does not shout. there are a couple of problems in this area. number one, does a republican party want that? and number two, the clock is ticking in order for suarez to qualify for that august debate stage. >> thank you very much. and "outfront" now, national political reporter for the messager extensively covering florida politics. you know mayor suarez. you've covered him in florida. i remember meeting him remotely when he had covid and he was talking about how he quarantined, did thee testing ad followed protocol. what kind of reputation does he have in miami? >> well, no one in miami really expect for some of the people around him are saying hey, what we really need in the race for president is a third florida man to throw his hat in the ring. haven't really heard that. in fact, one of his long time political foes in the republican party here in miami-dade county,
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former miami-dade county mayor and current congressman jimenez really just roasted him when suarez got in the race. there are a lot of critics in city hall. or around city hall. city of miami residents who say look, we like the message that suarez is saying in that video, optimistic message, talking about fighting for the little guy, but they're not saying his record meets his rhetoric. >> so what's interesting here also. i mentioned him during covid, right, when he was on the national stage and you know, open about it and following the protocols. he voted for i know from your reporting, he's voted both sides, right? he's not like a die hard republican. from his voting record, is he? >> yeah. he's not. i think he announced he voted for hillary clinton. he had voted for andrew gilliam in 2018. very progressive candidate who ran against desantis that year and i think he also said he
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voted for joe biden or at least he didn't say he voted for trump in 2020. jimenez mentioned that as well. >> so obviously, he's the mayor in the same city where trump is facing criminal charges. so if you didn't see him during covid on the national stage, you saw him the other day when he was talking about the preparations the city of miami made for the indictment on the security front. is he going to do anything to directly take trump on? >> i have no idea. one of the things he's, one of the reasons i think he doesn't really want the talk about trump's indictment the suarez himself might be under federal investigation as well. there's a developer in miami who needed permitting help and he was paying the mayor as much as $170,000. as much 10$10,000 a month and t mayor's office helped clear up some of his permitting problems. this is one of the many questions he's going to have about his record. what's your record of leadership here in miami? we have what's called a weak mayor system in miami.
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however, you have an opportunity to be symbolic. you have an opportunity to speak up. don't have to be loud and shout. under mayor suarez, the city code enforcement department has been weaponized there's the owner of a local bar that fell afoul of a city commissioner who then directed code enforce against him and that guy lost a $63 million lawsuit and suarez said nothing about the way the code was weaponized against this man's business. >> thank you. trump missing a major celebration for ivanka as she's no longer seen by her father's side as he's running for president. and two astronauts embark on a risky mission to keep the international space station functioning. that's entirely incalculable. oh, i think that'ss legalese for... for true! apartments.comom the place to find a place.
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was a family affair. >> have i the honor of introducing a man who needs no introduction. >> reporter: seeking a return to the white house and facing two indictments, trump's 2024 bid looks much different. as trump traveled to miami this week for his second arraignment, his wife melania didn't join him. she was also not in attendance later that night for his remarks at his new jersey golf club. >> today we witnessed the most evil and heinous abuse of power in our country. >> reporter: instead she was in new york city, for what trump advisers say was a preplanned visit, offering support for her husband with multiple phone calls on monday and tuesday. days earlier, trump praising his wife in an interview. >> she's a terrific person. she's a very beautiful person, as you know. she has a tremendous heart. >> reporter: melania was also notably absent from trump's court appearance in april, and his speech later that evening at mar-a-lago. >> this is a persecution, not an investigation.
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>> reporter: one source close to the former president said his wife does not want the get, quote, messed up in all his legal issues and the media coverage. melania trump has rarely been see at the former president's campaign events, only attending his announcement speech at mar-a-lago last november. amid questions about her interest in being part of the campaign, she told fox news last month, quote, he has my support, and we look forward to restoring hope for the future and leading america with love and strength. as for the rest of trump's family, ivanka trump and her husband jared kushner, who both served in the trump administration as advisers, have stepped back from politics after trump announced his third presidential bid last year, ivanka trump provided a statement to cnn, saying, quote, i love my father very much. this time around i am choosing to prioritize my young children and the private life we are creating as family. i do not plan to be involved in politics. for their part, trump's eldest sons, don jr. and eric have floated in and out of the campaign.
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eric travelled with his father to miami for his second arraignment and attended his tuesday evening event at his new jersey golf club. sources tell cnn melania trump was back with her husband in bedminster wednesday to celebrate his 77th birthday, and is expected to stay there for the rest of the summer. amid donald trump's mounting legal issues, ivanka trump, his daughter celebrated her daughter's bat mitzvah. noticeably missing, though, was the former president. some advisers suggested he had a scheduling conflict. it was the weekend before he went down to miami for that arraignment, and he was speaking instead about his political issues and these legal issues at two events, campaign events, both in georgia and north carolina. back to you. >> all right, kristen, thank you very much. and coming up on "ac 360," 42% of ceos say they think ai has the potential to destroy humanity in the next five to ten years. remember, we were talking about that number last night. next, you're going to see the stories behind the numbers, why they feel that way at 8:00.
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