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walk the trump case, kickstarts it in head. john berman in here for anderson. plans we 60, how federal judge aileen cannon just got the documents case moving, and how one veteran prosecutor argues against casting judgment on her ability to be impartial for the man who appointed her. also another federal judge in another case against the president makes it official. e. jean carroll's defamation lawsuit goes to court just as primary season begins. plus, a cnn exclusive. we'll meet you queens drawn warriors as a 3d print machinery to send russian shells back where they came from with a bang. we begin with what came as a surprise to some. judge aileen cannon's first order in her new position overseen the documents case, a surprise because during her first encounter with it shortly after the search of mar-a-lago, she issued a ruling so untethered in case law and so favorable to the former president, a federal peels plan

will panel overturned her in a decision that read more like a legal scolding. two other judges on that panel, by the way, were, like her, trump appointees. that was the backdrop to today's ruling. cnn's paula reid joins us now with more on what is in this issue prop from the judge. paula, what can you tell us? >> this is first time we've heard from judge aileen cannon since trump's arraignment early this week, and look, this is a mundane schedule order. she is telling the lawyers, hey guys, start talking to doj about getting your security clearances set. but even these little orders, the schedule, she wants them to update her in five days, that is significant, john, because it's these little decisions, these little scheduling orders that over the course of this case could determine if this case is heard before or after the election. and we know that judge cannon is under such scrutiny, mostly fryer that decision you just mentioned, and the fact that she is a trump appointee, overseeing this case, and she

is a young, relatively inexperienced judge. so everything she does is under the microscope. so it's interesting about today's scheduling order as it comes just two days after the arraignment and she is setting a pretty tight timeline for the next update. it suggests she might want to keep moving. with the special counsel has said he wants a speedy trial. but the former president's attorneys, they have every reason to want to delay this until after the election. now the one glitch here is that even though the justice department can expedite the security clearances, a former president hasn't finalized his legal team, so that is something that could delay this a little bit longer. but this is one of the big tensions in this case. it's just how long will it take to get this case in front of a jury. >> so paulo, talk to me more about the former presidents legal team. has he hired any more attorneys who at this point are barred? >> unity move in speaking to some lawyers down in florida, prominent vance attorney's,

about possibly bringing them all to his team. but as we saw in his arraignment two of the attorneys who have been in his orbit for a little while now, not too long now, todd blanche and chris case, the former florida solicitor general, they were the ones who signed in appearances and told the court that they intended to be at least a permanent part of the team. we do expect they will bring on additional attorneys, which historically it's been hard to the former president to retain counsel for, a lot of reasons. one, he's a notoriously difficult client. in the indictment the justice department is alleging that not only was he trying to hide documents from the government, he was also allegedly trying to hide them from his own lawyer. there's also concerns about him paying his bills and some firms that have been asked about potentially representing him, have told us that they are concerned about reputational damage or possibly alienating their clients. but in talking to several sources down in the florida defense, barr we do expect that he will be able to find lawyers, especially here if he's able to pay upfront. this is of course the case of a

lifetime. but it might take a little while before he finalizes his team. then they will need the security clearances because there is sensitive material in this case. and, again that all adds up in terms of the time it takes and when this case is eventually heard. >> a former president of the united states with a condition, if he pays up front. extraordinary. paula reid, thank you very much for that. >> what are our next guest, the former watergate prosecutor, wrote an opinion piece on judge cannon, running in the new york times today. the headline? don't automatically right off the judge in the trump documents case. nick ackerman joins us. he's also former prosecutor for new york southern district, as is jessica, rot currently a professor at manhattan's core dauzat law school. jessica, let me start with you. what can you make of this ruling or this order from judge cannon? timing is everything in the trump documents case, and this seems to be somewhat speedy. >> i thought this is a good sign. one of the concerns by judge cannon's, will she delay the proceedings in a way that favors former president trump

and what he might be seeking here in terms of getting this prolonged into the political season. so i thought the fact that she seemed to seize the bull by the words own issue an order that was a relatively tight scheduling order, was a good sign. i also sought is an indication that she doesn't seem to have any plans to recuse herself, to disqualify herself based on the concern about the, at least the appearance of partiality here. i think we learned two things. >> nick, you told me on tv, and then you wrote the op-ed in the new york times, basically, not so fast to the critics of judge cannon. and that she should necessarily shouldn't be called on to recuse herself. why do you feel so strongly about this? >> there's really no basis to do it. in fact, sure, she blew it with respect to the special master, in appointing the special master, but it wasn't the most outrageous decision. don't forget, michael cohen, one of trump's lawyers, had a special master appointed after his search warrant. rudy giuliani, who also had a

search warrant, had another special master appointed. both of these individuals, lawyers with lots of potentially attorney client privileged information, but again, i think judge cannon was looking at this from the standpoint of trying to be more transparent with the public, trying to get information out there, basically giving a different spin on this because trump was a former president. the 11th circuit said no, no, now. you've got to treat him just like any other criminal defendant in this system. and she's got her marching orders now. she has to treat trump just like anybody else in the system. and there's no reason to think that she did anything here to try and sabotage this. if she had wanted, they had also asked that the search warrant be surprised, the evidence be suppressed. she could have done all kinds of things if she was really looking out to help trump. at the end of the day, it really didn't make any

difference. if you look at the 40-page indictment, there is nothing in there that made any difference as to the fact that they couldn't use the classified documents for a brief period of their investigation. most of what was done was putting people before a grand jury, getting the testimony, getting corcoran to testify, turn over his notes, litigate that issue, all of that was done. judge cannon aside. it had nothing to do with what she did. and people are making too big of a thing out of it. what concerns me is that we've got to institutions in our system that relate to the criminal justice. one is the department of justice. the other is the judiciary. both of them are charged with essentially making sure that neither the government or a criminal defendant is treated any differently. and right now we've got the trump people that are all screaming about the department of justice, trying to say this is biden's doing when in fact

there is an independent counsel who is very much in the mold of archibald cox, and we've got a judge who seems on surface to have complete competency here, although maybe not totally experienced. >> so, jessica, if, if this special counselor prosecutors are very unhappy with judge cannon, and if it starts to go in a way they don't like, do they have any recourse? >> they could, at that point, move to have her disqualify herself. the statue that governors disqualification or recusal of a judge says that if reasonable people basically could have a concern that the judge is not impartial, then the judge shall disqualify themselves. so they could make that motion now. they could also make it at some future date if she starts issuing rulings that would indicate bias. the concern going in is what she did in those prior rulings. to be clear, it's not that she was appointed by president trump. it's whether her prior rulings were so out of bounds, legally

speaking, they indicate that she is biased or at least they would raise a concern in the public eye that she is biased in some way toward president trump. and so they need to be considering if they could succeed in that motion, and if not before her where they want to spend the time to take into the 11th circuit, which would go back to the question of delay. >> yes everything is about timing. what about her her experience? could she doesn't have a lot of experience on the bench in criminal cases. >> it's a practical concern as opposed to being part of a motion to take the case away. there's no motion one can make, no basis in law for moving a case where district court judge to whom it was assigned randomly, because the judge is inexperienced in this area of law. all judges come to the bench with certain areas in which they are inexperienced. in this case for her seems to be with complex criminal cases, particularly those involving classified insert formation. so the government's gonna have to double down on the work it does to prepare her in advance of any rulings that she has to make. >> to that point, nick, and very quickly, is there anything the special prosecutor,

prosecutors need to do, here given her experience? >> oh, sir. they're gonna be briefing every little legal issue. they're gonna be setting up guidelines that she has to follow. i had this happen to be in a ten defendant trial, and appointee who was a former deputy mayor of new york who never did a criminal trial. the first criminal trial he did was when i had with independents. i just had to work like crazy. i was writing more briefs and was basically a treatise machine to make sure that this judge understood every little fine piece of the law. and that is what they're going to do. >> interesting. nick akerman, jessica ras, stick around serena tick around to talk about the next. rory federal judges setting the date for e. jean carroll's next civil case against on trump, knowing he's already been found liable for sexually abusing and defaming her. jessica, what are you learning about the former presidents latest trial date and how who complete with all the other

dates on the legal calendar? >> john, kennedy ready to mark this up because this trial date is now set for january 15th next year. and if we take a look, this is going to clash with primary season, no question. but if we look at all the legal cases of the former president is facing, he is going to trial, is companies going to trial in october over the new york attorney general civil lawsuit involving the company's financial statements. he's set for a deposition that kate that deposition will be played. it will become public. this is going to be something he will have to contend with. and then just in january, a few months later, he will go on trial again in this e. jean carroll civil lawsuit. he did not attend the last trial, and he did not testify. it remains to be seen if he will change his mind either way in this case. but it will go when this primary season is kicking off and it's a crowded field already, so he certainly going to be not backing down. he's gonna be on the campaign trail. then in march, two months later, is when his trial was is set for the criminal case in new

york, in that testimony case. in that case he is required to attend. so that is going to take up, no one is that the dates, yet but it could be two, three weeks that he will be required to be off the campaign trail during the week, monday through friday when this trial sets. remains to be seen whether the documents trial will be set. judges have been cognizant that he does have a first amendment right, he is campaigning. he doesn't need to be out in the field. there is also due process. it's a speedy trial, it's a special counsels at team who said, they're willing to move quickly. that it is yet to be set, but it started to get a bit crowded, and it remains to be seen, if they are going to be any further charges against former president because fulton county district attorney is still connecting her investigation, as kind of signal that there could be a decision in august. the remains to be seen what the special counsel will do as they look at january 6th. >> just to be clear, this is not the same lawsuit exactly brought by e. jean carroll in which donald trump was found liable for sexual abuse last month. can you explain why the split

here? >> so this lawsuit we are talking about was the first one that was filed in november of 2019. it's a defamation lawsuit. e. jean carroll wrote her book. she made her allegations that trump had raped her in the bergdorf goodman department store and then he came out and very much saying that he didn't know her, he thought this was made up for her book sales. that has been tied up on appeal in these legal issues, in part because both the trump justice department and the biden justice department has said that trump was making these statements when he was president and so it fell within the scope of his duties. so they have said essentially doj should be substituted as the defendant, which would essentially and the case. that's tied up on appeal. then she filed a subsequent lawsuit, which went to trial but this one has beleaguering. it was interesting as the department of justice in these court filings have said they need a little bit more time to decide if they are going to continue with their position in part because of the evidence

that came out in this first trial. so it really could potentially turn on whether doj still believes that trump is acting within the scope, either way there are some legal issues here for the judge to work out. but it's a case of this judge is looking to put a marker on and get it moving, and carroll of course just recently won the ability to amend that lawsuit to include some of the statements that trump made it down haul that we're repeating the same that the jury found defamatory so she could potentially see even more in punitive damages if she successful. >> you really need a spreadsheet to keep track of all the legal issues. kerastick, around. out to bring back jessica roth into this conversation, and i talk about the political aspects as well. also senior jurors will be with special assistant scott jennings is with us as well. jessica, quickly, how do you see this trial play out? will it go on time is ordered? >> it's hard to imagine that it will, given the other criminal cases that are on former president trump's calendar,

criminal cases generally take precedence over civil cases in being tried because of a defendant's right to a speedy trial. at some point some he's gonna have to give. he's got the manhattan street attorneys criminal charges, he's got the special counsel's criminal charges. in florida, if there are additional charges that are criminal filed in georgia the summer that would add a third criminal case, and of course a special counselor may have additional charges including for the general six investigation. so at some point it might be a question of days left on the calendar, to say nothing of the legal challenges involved for his lawyers in thinking about how to coordinate the defenses in all these cases, and the implications of statements that he may make or filings they may make in certain cases for their strategy in other cases. >> scott, you worked on campaigns. how distracting would all of this be? how distracting would it be to a normal campaign, and how distracting will it be do you think to the trump campaign? >> well, it's going to be quite

distracting. running for president is one of the most attention necessary items you can do in politics. some of these other officers run for, maybe it's not all encompassing, running for president is an all encompassing issue. you look at the calendar here you think about what's gonna happen, it's not just going out and doing your normal rallies and stuff. things happen such as in office in august, are gonna have debates beginning with the rnc having some debates and it's worth time responds to hear from the fulton county georgia indictments, in which he's obviously in the crosshairs down there. so when you think about overtime you're trying to prepare to run for president on a daily basis, you're trying to do those events, you get me with your lawyer very defense in these cases, you gotta do debate prep, you've gotta do deposition prep, human beings only have so much bandwidth, so much attention, it's only hours in the day. it will be quite overwhelming, and i think where republicans are ultimately going to have to ask themselves is, is this going to be a campaign about

voters or is it gonna be a campaign about trump? because i'll guarantee you all he's gonna want to talk about is all his woes in the legal system, and that's not addressing the needs of the country right now. >> kara, any word from trump's legal team on any of this? >> they haven't responded to this order yet tonight, but what they have already signaled is that they are going to ask the judge to essentially dismissed the lawsuit and ask for summary judgment. their argument is interesting because they want to say that because this jury that did hear the whole case found that trump did not rape her but they found that he sexually abused her, they're going to argue that that means that the statements could not be defamatory. but ultimately it will be up to the judge to decide if he is going to rule on that or not a jury decide. >> as i, said it is a lot to digest. kara scannell, jessica rot, scott jennings, great to see you won it all. next, someone we don't hear from that often. president obama weighs in on race when wokeness goes to fire and the republican party. also tonight exclusive look inside one of the most daring

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gop needs a, quote, honest accounting of a country, past and present, when it comes to the subject. new >> and so if a republican who may even be sincere in saying i want us all to live together, doesn't have a plan for how do we address crippling generally chanel profit e that is a consequence of hundreds of years of racism in this society, and we need to do something about that, if somebody's not proposing, both acknowledging and proposing elements that say no, we can't just ignore all of that and pretend as if everything is equal and fair. we actually have to walk the talk and not just talk the talk. if they are not doing that, then i think people are rightly skeptical. >> david axelrod joins us, also a fellow cnn commentator and

former special adviser to president obama, van jones. so david, you obviously knew the former president well and have been with him in so many of the key moments from nearly beginning of his political career. how have you seen his views on race in this country evolve from saying the democratic national committee, in the famous speech in 2004, today? >> well, that's actually where our conversation began, and i asked for his assessment of where we were than and where we are now, but this particular exchange that you played, john, began with the discussion of senator scott, tim scott, because there were elements of his presentation that are very reminiscent of that speech in 2004, and the way senator obama wrapped his story into the larger american story, where they diverge is in the conclusion, because senator obama and president obama's conclusion wasn't that because

i succeeded or because some of these barriers have fallen doesn't mean that we are where we need to be. and his point was, he accepts an embraces the story of senator scott and nikki haley and others who heralds their stories is examples of american progress. but it's not enough. you also have to address the realities of where we are. he never, in all the time i worked with him and have known him, he never suggested that somehow because he was elected president that barrier was broken, that we were in some post racial society and hundreds of years of systemic racism just faded away. that was not, that's not realistic. >> van, one of the things the former president told acts is that the republican party should acknowledge issues of racial inequality in the country instead of basically saying that everything is now equal and fair.

what do you make of that? >> it's good to hear his voice again. you don't realize how much you miss hearing cena, balanced, kind, thoughtful commentary until you get a chance to hear from president obama. i hurt people to listen to the podcast. he talked about a number of things. what i thought most interesting was when axelrod pushed him and said hey, what about that speech in 2004? all the hope and change stuff? and he said listen, that speech was aspirational. it wasn't just a literal description of america. it was aspirational. that is a part of the american ethos, it's holding on to the dream of what we can be. we have a founding reality that was ugly and an equal, with slavery and women can vote on everything else, but that founding dream, we hold these truths to be self evident, that's what you've got to continue to strive for. but you can't tell the kids in

the back of the car we've already got to disney world when you're 20 miles away. we've got a long way to go. it was great to be reminded, president obama has always been a racial optimist, not a racial fantasist. and i think that's the difference between him and some of these other voices. now >> it's interesting is that racial fantasist. that's a tough question. a very tough interview there. i do want to play another part of this discussion, with the former president weighs in on the issue of so-called wokeness. listen to this. >> i am dismissive of people who tried to trot out woke because women in the workplace don't want to be sexually harassed. if you guys are, you just can't take a joke, you're being woke, we'll know. what is true is i think we have tended at times, on the progressive side, to tip into a

scolding social etiquette police and virtue signaling whereby, if somebody doesn't say something exactly the right way, even if we know they kind of didn't mean it in an offensive way, and suddenly you've got, partly because of social media, everybody jumping on and saying somehow, you must be racist or sexist. i think that does make people feel under assault. and i think it alienates us from our allies. >> if i can get both of you to weigh in on this quickly. van, you first. >> again, that's the reasonableness. on the one hand there are horrific things that have happening continue to happen to people because of their identity and we want to stand up for that. but you want to do it with love. you want to do it when you can with empathy and sympathy and not assuming the worst about people. that's a part of that racial optimism that he represents.

and real-ism about how we build more consensus and not drive people away by calling them names all the time. >> david? >> yeah, i agree with that. the whole conversation, which was really about the challenges to our democracy at this moment, we're about how we repair the american community, how we begin to find, to see each other and ourselves more at a time when social media and our politics and frankly cable tv sometimes, just drives us into our silos. this commentary that he just gave was an example of that. we tend to go to our battle stations very fast, and denounced people and their character. sometimes you need to take a step back and say, what is this all about? instead of going to those battle stations. so the whole conversation, i think, is well worth listening to. he has been thinking and writing in speaking about these issues a lot.

his foundation has been addressing it. this is, as he says, this was a moment of crisis for democracy here and everywhere, and we need to step back and really examine these issues. >> it really is a great discussion. david axelrod, van jones, great to hear both of your voices. thanks so much. coming up, inside one of the most daring missions in modern warfare, building killer drones. we take you inside and let ukrainian unit doing that with precision as they target the enemy. may lead to severe vision loss and if you're taking a multi-vitamin alone, you may be missing a critical piece... preservision. preservision areds 2 contains the only clinically proven nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies.

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we are with an elite drone unit of ukraine looking to take out a key russia n anti-tank position with a precision strike. we found this target only recently, a team leader, said it was discovered only today, antony will be destroyed. >> we're going to the drone site right now. it's dangerous and we have to watch out the russians don't see us. >> speed and precision are essential. the drone, a quadracopter on steroids, able to carry a massive payload, up to 45 pounds. in this case, a mortar shell, the mortar shell the ukrainians got from retreating russian forces elsewhere and are now using to hit putin's army. >> are we preparing? >> okay. >> bombs ready? >> we are ready to go. >> okay. >> is it time? >> ready, steady.

>> it's big, it's loud, and it's heading straight to the russian position. we need to hide. out here the hunters quickly become the hunted. >> for the russians, the drone crews are also high value targets. i will see the russians want nothing more than to kill these guys. >> unfazed by the shelling around us, the pilot flies straight to the target, and releases the bomb. >> this moment we call from ukraine with love, >> so you just drop the bomb? >> yes. >> this is what the blast looks like from the drone's camera. pitch black. the strike, fully automated. it's not until daytime that a reconnaissance flight proves they hit and struck the target, not sure how many russians were killed and wounded here. this will allow the defense

forces ukraine to move forward and continue the offensive, he says, with minimal losses will inflict maximum losses on the enemy for the victory of ukraine. but it's not over, as the -- flies back, intercepted text messages show the russians have heard the drone and are targeting it. enemy bird spotted, a russian texts. understood, another answers. they launch flares to spot the drone. >> back there. >> are they shooting those up to see the drone, or a --? >> they cannot see the drone but they should -- >> finally, the drone makes it back. they need to get out of here fast. >> can we follow? >> yeah, let's go. >> after what they say was a successful mission, the drone warriors leave the way they came. >> fred joins me now from zaporizhzhia. fred, let extraordinary

footage. i will see what this drone unit does is extremely dangerous. had they take a lot of losses? >> hi there, john, yes certainly it is extremely dangerous, and special teams like this, they've used the cover of darkness, they move in a stealthy way, but they also are extremely vulnerable if they get discovered and taken under fire. these drone units are extreme high value targets for the russians. the guys told us, if the russians see them, they will unleash entire in artillery barrages or rocket barrages to try and kill them. i asked the unit about this in a set of course it is happening the past, they have been discovered, and they did have people who are wounded. no one has been killed so far. they obviously say they want to keep it that way, but they also say they certainly are not going to back down from the missions they are currently conducting. >> how high tech, fred, are the drones that they are using? is this more about gumption or advanced technology? >> i would say that they are pretty high tech. we were quite surprised.

the drone that they had there, which they call the chair, by the way, because it is so big, it flies extremely quickly. they don't actually have visual confirmation that they've destroyed the target until they fly over it afterwards. all of that is automated. it was quite surprising to us that it works that well. it is pretty high tech. they are able to hit extremely accurately. they say, john, they are called to these operations because what they do is a lot more accurate than, for instance, artillery, so for those real high value targets, drones are with ukrainians are using. >> just to be clear, what was the explosive they were using? it was a found mortar combined with something else? >> yeah, it was a mortar, 122 millimeter mortar that they found from the russians or the russians were treating from kherson. that of course was a battle that took place last year when the russians retreated from their own ukrainians were essentially joking and saying we're giving them back their ammunition. but they use that and then they basically rid that. with the stabilizer that they

3d-printed and some tubing that they got, and that made it extremely accurate. that was also one of the things that surprised us as well. that with something that seen this rudimentary like that, they were able to conduct a precision strike. they didn't show us later when they had a reconnaissance flight a day later that they actually hit that target. >> it all surprised me, fred, frankly, nothing more than the fact that we were seeing it began with. as i said, an extraordinary vantage point. thank you so much for sharing it with us. so glad you and your team are safe. frederik pleitgen, thank you so much. and we are just getting word here at home, there is breaking news, we just received video from the town and perry turn texas, north east of amarillo, really not far from the oklahoma border. it is tornado country and a tornado did this. look at that. this obviously devastating. responders from across the area and now heading to the scene. there was no word yet of injuries or fatalities. cnn's chad myers moderated all of this from the weather

center. chad, what's the latest from there? >> it's a volatile night we, had a tornado on the ground likely an ohio. we had damage in michigan, in the area we are talking about where that tornado was on the ground, was texas. yes, perryton, texas, and this tornado did a lot of damage to any fragile structures. a lot of mobile homes. a lot of aluminum framed houses and things like that. this is the video that we are seeing. this is the stovepipe tornado that was caught on camera a couple of storm chasers out there, very brave, stop their cars, helped people right away, they saw how much damage was actually out there and how many people needed help. first responders coming in from all over the northern part of the texas panhandle. this isn't over. this is the area we are talking about. even though we are getting into nightfall, we still have the energy in the atmosphere. it's hot out there. it's still in the 80s and 90s out here. it's the energy that the storms will use to make more tornadoes

likely tonight. if you hear a warning, if you hear a siren, if the alarm goes, off if the phone goes off, make sure you know what to do. most to make sure you know what to do before it goes off. we have two real areas of concern, maybe three, i get to the third one that's just developing, that's the same storm that hit perryton it. snow and parts of oklahoma, including shyann, moving to the east from there. then down along i-35, oklahoma city that way, dallas texas that, way gainesville, you are under the tornado warning right now. that's gainesville, texas, with the tornado warning. wind, hail, hail the size, possibly, of baseballs. and i heard a few of them said today, the size of cd desks. like the cd player that you put in your car little slot there. that's a large sum of these hailstones were, five inches in diameter. you get wind of 80 miles per hour, some hail coming down, there's a lot of potential, a lot more damage is still possible tonight, even though the sun is setting and because the sun is setting and you may

be going to sleep, you need to really pay attention. this line goes all the way into alabama and north florida. there is a lot more of this to come tonight. we'll be following it here. >> footage does not look good. it is not over yet. everyone, please listen, listen to your radios, stay close, and stay safe. chad myers, thank you very much. >> you bet. >> so much focus has been on the former president and his historic not guilty plea to the federal indictment, in recent formally former first lady melania trump has been absent from the spotlight, even as her husband appeared in court this week. the former president talked about who this week, what he said and what mrs. trump has been doing since leaving the white house, next.

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>> as you've been reporting tonight, the former president is facing legal trouble on several fronts. there's the classified documents case, the e. jean carroll defamation case, and a number of other pending investigations. so there's been no shortage of the former president in the spotlight. but there is one person who has been mostly missing from his side in public, former first lady melania trump. a randi kaye looks at where the

former first lady has been since you left the white house. >> how did she take? it she is hurt when the family is hurt. >> that was former president donald trump talking about his wife melania on his friend roger stone's radio show on sunday. trump revealed that melania was hurt after finding out the department of justice had indicted him for allegedly having classified documents at his mar-a-lago resort. yet melania was nowhere to be seen in miami when trump surrendered tuesday and appeared in court. these photos show melania was in new york city earlier this week. we've learned melania has since joined her husband at trump's bedminster golf club in new jersey. meloni has certainly been enjoying a less high-profile post white house life than her husband. >> the past four years have been unforgettable. >> since leaving the white house, she has rarely been seen in public, except for the occasional trip to the hair salon. she is busy raising their son baron and working on her business venture, digital

artworks purchase through cryptocurrency. this one features a close-up of her eyes drawn by a french artist. it is titled, maloney's vision, and comes with a drying as well as this recorded audio message. >> my vision is, look forward with inspiration, strength, and courage. >> and the business has the backing of her husband. >> she's gonna do great. she does, she's got a great imagination. >> judging from her twitter account, it's keeping melania very busy. over the years she's also tweeted about major news events like the tornado tragedy there of kentucky. on a brighter note, she shared this holiday visit with the florida coast guard. in april of this year, she posted a happy birthday message on twitter, and more recently on may 9th, she posted about her luncheon with a group of foster teens. she said they talked about their hopes for the funeral the future. she was interviewed by fox news and was asked about the state of the country. >> i think it's sad what to see what's going on if you really

look deeply into it. i think a lot of people are struggling and suffering, and what is going on around the world as well. so it is very sad to see, and i hope it changes fast. >> why is it happening? >> leadership. >> what is missing from her twitter feed, any mention of her husband legal battles. she also remains silent following the fbi's search of mar-a-lago last year. a person familiar with melania's strategy put it this way to cnn. why would she say anything? her thinking is, if she is quiet, it will just go away. but melania trump may not be ready to go away. recently teasing a possible return to the white house. >> never say never. >> and john, we know bologna trump likes her privacy. she often retreats into the background, staying in different city or different state than her husband. we do know she was with him when he announced he was going to run again, but we haven't really seen much of her on the campaign trail with him during

these early campaign stops. the other issue, john, for this upcoming campaign season, when it really gets going, is that they have their son baron in his last year of high school here in florida. so the question, is how much time will melania trump even have to be out on the campaign trail? she want to spend more time at home with him during his last year of high school. >> good point. thank you very. much up next, the craziest, wackiest, most insane story of the day, kind of terrifying, as well. you'll know what i mean in just a moment.

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>> so i promised wacky and terrifying, so here you go. 42% of ceos at a yale summit said a.i., artificial intelligence, could destroy humanity in 5 to 10 years. yes, i did say destroy humanity. interpol shared exclusively with cnn, 19 ceos were surveyed from different companies including walmart, xerox, manufacturing, in other industries. so let's dig deeper on this, because apparently our lives are at stake [laughter] and time is awaiting. joining me now, our senior data

reporter harry edden enten. we've done a lot of pulling together, and normally i would say hey, not being destroyed, all of human humanity in ten years is outside the margin of error, but that's not good enough. 42% say we're going down soon. any other polls say this? >> of a, i saw this poll, i couldn't believe. but then it turns out the study that came out last year that they pulled a bunch of a.i. experts and said they asked the question do you believe that a.i. could lead to a nuclear level disaster in the next century? and what they found was 36% of them agreed with us. agreed with, this john, although perhaps the good news is only 16% strongly agreed with it. >> these are all awful. if it's like 2%, it's bad, but you're getting 30s and 40s here, of allegedly smart people saying we're in big trouble. >> it is scary, to me, but least we get to spend our final moments together, john. >> i'm not sure if i agree with you on. that listen, and the real moments like this before, where

people had the same dark use of technology? >> yeah, remember y2k? i was a young boy back. then you are perhaps my each now back then. but there was all this worry, this gonna be completed or bud, could it lead to a nuclear level disaster? a defense disaster? and you know what the polling found back in 1988 was that nearly a third of americans agreed that that was likely. nearly a third. and of course we got past y2k perfectly okay. but that polling then looks a lot like the polling now, so you know what i say? yes there's all these bad numbers, well let's hold up our bridges. let's not run ahead of them. we've seen polling like this before. so let's see what actually happens going forward. >> the destruction of humanity still scares me one is 42%. when we talk about a i, i think of the terminator. is that a reasonable thing to have conjured in your head? >> yeah. let me just say, the terminator scare the ever loving crowd out of me when i was a kid. i had to see many psychologists because i saw when i was eight years old. but here's what i will note.

what is so interesting to me is that james cameron is working on a new terminator script. and it turns out that he is not going to finish that script until he finds out the future of a i. so the man who committed created the bat images of a.i. in our head is now worried about the current a.i., and that to me is the scariest thing of all. >> better hurry up. he might only have 5 to 10 years. harry enten, thank you for being with us, for now. we'll be right back. doors lead us to places we've never been. your dedicated fidelity advisor can help you open those doors.

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