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i think a lot of these players put a lot time and effort in her last year into trying to play a role, having meetings and trying to reshape the pga tour, than it when it came time to actually make a deal, it was three gentleman in a room representing the pga tour, none of which were players. so, from talking to guys the reaction that i get, it is almost -- it is relief. we put in on this, effort to put in all the, time now we know that it didn't really matter. so, we will get back to playing golf, what is going to happen is gonna, happen whether we want to or not. so i think they don't have as much power as they would want. >> yeah, i mean, especially for the pga players who were told, did not accept these deals, you want to be able to play in the pga, what are you hearing from them? >> yes, they need to be made, right but it is a tricky situation. how are you going to do that? is that money going to come from -- is that money going to come from fines from the guys who did go? there are a lot of players, basically every topic with
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either negotiated for or got an offer or not, knows that if they put their head out, there they wanted to negotiate with the, saudis they could have gotten an offer for 50 or 100 million dollars. the commissioner of the pga tour find to see these guys in person, have dinner with, them look at them in the eye and say, do not do, this stay loyal to the pga tour, did not betray us. we will not negotiate with these people, we will maintain an hour path. now you have guys who did take the hundred million dollars, who are now gonna be allowed back into the system. so there is a bit of jealousy, and where is my money situation? >> and jay monahan was talking so publicly about human, right saudi arabia's human record on, that speaking of jay monahan, after it was, announced he was getting a lot of criticism, it was announced that he was going to be essentially had medical situation, stepping away from his duties, who do you ever think about that? >> i've heard rumblings he is doing okay, what i will say, is
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when he took this job at the pga tour commissioner, this was not what he had in mind. these last couple years have been tumultuous, chaotic, whatever word you want to use. i think he thought he was stepping into a rule where you grow the game, and you play nice responses, i don't think he was anticipating getting doj investigation and having to deal with the united states. >> there is a lot of -- he is dealing with a lot of stress. >> then, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> time now for cnn prime time with abby philip. hey bud. wow. what's all this?
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- [announcer] do you have an invention idea but don't know what to do next? call invent help today. they can help you get started with your idea. call now 800-710-0020. >> good evening everyone, i'm abby, philip this is a special edition of cnn tonight. no need to worry, a bathroom doors, lock that is actually one of the defenses donald trump's allies are using to assure all of us that national security was not at risk at his resort home. but tonight, we are going to show you why the indictment of
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the former president may be more of a national security case than a documents or even obstruction one. trump's lawyers asking the department of justice for security clearances as the judge sets a new deadline for them to do so, and why is, that because the material that led to the very first federal indictment of a former president is about as sensitive as it gets. >> was not a good look for the former president to have boxes in the bathroom? >> i don't know, it is a good picture to have boxes in the garage that opens up all the time? a bathroom door locks. >> there are 33 bathrooms at mar-a-lago, so don't act like it is a random bathroom, and they can go into. that is not true. >> well, to be fair, it is unclear how easy it is to breach of the bathrooms at mar-a-lago, but what is true and proven, is how vulnerable that resort really is. back in february of 2017, trump openly discussed a north korean missile launch with the
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japanese prime minister in the dining, room looking at a laptop that could be seen by diners and waitstaff. they do that, year in april, trump posted the chinese president in a living area of the gray tall, near resort, members and guests. in that same month, trump launched an impromptu situation room, to watch a u.s. missile strike on syria. experts at the time question the setup, and those who surrounded him. in 2018, a college student screened by secret service entered the resort through a tunnel, connected to the beach after being arrested. he later tell a judge, quote, i just wanted to see how far i could get. in 2019, a chinese national detained in the lobby after being cleared by secret service, she had four, sulfones and a thumb drive with malware on it. in 2021, a fake heiress from ukraine saw how got access to the, resort posing for pictures by the pool. the alleged scammer also took pictures with trump, senator lindsey graham at the golf
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club. so, keep in mind, all of these incidents happened at the very place where the federal government found dozens of classified and top secret folders inside a bridal suite above the grand ballroom, and below the public center of the resort. prosecutors say, the rooms could be accessed from multiple outside entrances, including the pool patio. they also say, between january of 2021 and august of last, year they were sort of hosted more than 150 social events, weddings, movie premiers, fundraisers, that quote through tens of thousands of guests. one mar-a-lago member telling cnn, once you are on the property, you can really go anywhere. i do. i want to begin tonight with a unique perspective, joining me is former federal prosecutor and florida-based attorney defense attorney tim jansen. he is representative matt gaetz's ex girlfriend who defended corruption cases in the past. tim, great to have you here, tonight, i wonder what you
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think, do you think reading this indictment that doj prosecutors focused on the national security elements, perhaps because some of the arguments that we are already hearing from the trump camp are around the process? our around who owns the documents? is that stronger ground for them to be on? >> well, they had to do that because the presidential records act does add a criminal component to it. so, they focused those records on to an espionage. it does still require willful intent, if you look at that statute, i see how the government coordinated, it charged the very details, they obviously claim he has the right to the records. i don't think we have had a criminal case in the history of this country under the presidential records act -- so the government detailed, i believe they did that trying to get it away from the presidential records, and trying to build up support and
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public opinion. and, showing the recklessness of the president by how the records are being kept. >> and do you think given that they have now also moved the venue down to it -- southern florida, do you think it would be a challenge for the federal government to get any 12 person jury unanimously offering a guilty verdict against trump in a case like this? >> well i think you are correct, the venue had a problem, because many of the charges or that he failed to -- failing to return means it occurred when he fell to return, them which then you want to be in florida. the jury is going to be very difficult for the government, and also similar to what happened in the oj simpson case, they moved to l.a. a more favorable venue for oj. this is certainly a more favorable venue for president trump. the country is so polarized, if you look at the polls today, half the people think you should belong and, president
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the other half think this is all politicized, you should have never been charged. so the jury selection is going to be so important, the judge in this case will control a lot of the jury selection, especially in federal courts, and you get ten for every challenge, but the key is going to be getting the challenge for, cars and that is showing the person is biased. you only get -- and, in my practice, this is so different than any other -- you will see. in most cases, that people do not want to sit on the jury. so i always try to pick people who don't want to be on, it because they don't have an agenda. in this case, everyone wants to be on this jury. >> yeah, that is a good, point that would be the case of a lifetime for a lot of people. it will be hard to find people who don't have an, opinion but, him last night the washington post reported that trump's attorney -- who is a very well-known figure in the state of florida was trying to get trump to make a deal with a doj to avoid all of this, and you know him
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personally, you know chris personally, do you think he really had a chance to get trump to take a deal if he had listened? and at that point in the investigation, was there even a realistic option he could have for a criminal charge here? >> well, sometimes the vote gets away from the, dark and there is no going back. and, i think that jacks mitt was given a duty and job, and you look at this indictment, and -- i were cases with him, and i don't think there is going to be a deal. your client is the ultimate, person president trump is for all his goods and, bats a fighter, he is going to fight, this and i think the odds of him getting convicted or very slim. with the way the country, is the jury panel, i don't think president trump would have ever taken a deal. >> yeah, and we spoke to
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someone who knows president trump very well, who said basically the same, thing who said he likes to see a fight. look, one of the factors in all, this when is this child going to even happen? and it is not the only trial, the dates are now set in the heart of the primary season, and for the e. jean carroll defamation, case and of the hush money charges. so in addition to this case, how long do you think all of this is going to play out for? >> well i can tell you, when you have a classified case, it is hard to get an attorney who can pass and get classified records. then, you have a codefendant that needs an attorney, and needs to get past the classified records and challenge, you have many pretrial motions, you have a lot of pre trial motions on idiot ernie client exception, so i doubt this case will even be ready for trial in a, year i doubt it will be tried before
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the november election of 2024. >> do you think the charge would -- if it got too close to simply pushing it past the election? >> well the department of justice has a policy, they do not like to interfere with elections. and, the usually go back in 90 days before an election that they don't want to bring charges, or indict someone, we're certainly not try a case. this is completely different, in so many, ways abby, and another example i wanted to tell, you normally when you go on a trial, the government is seeking conservative jurors. a defendant once liberal jurist. this is a case where, the government is going to want liberal jurors, and the defense is going to want the most conservative of people. it is completely -- >> turning everything up on his head. tim jansen, thank you so much for joining, us we appreciate that perspective. >> thank you. >> and there is some breaking news tonight, in the state of texas, a tornado tearing
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through the northern town -- near amarillo. you can see there, the images of the extensive damage. the mayor of harrington is saying, there are deaths, but could not immediately say how many. we also don't know how many people have been injured, but help is washing their as fast as they can. just devastating scene as you can see there. look at that tornado spinning. we will continue monitoring, this and the very latest developments and we will bring in the latest as soon as we have. it coming up next for us, a republican pollster joins us on whether or not these charges against trump are changing the minds of voters, or instead, just boosting his already strong support of republicans, plus, barack obama speaking out about the issue of race, and about 2024 candidates, and why he says that liberals may be risking their standing in this debate over woke.
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>> just about one week learning about the federal indictment of former president. trump and the news is already shaking up the political landscape. so, how will voters across the spectrum respond to these historic charges? and what could it mean for the 2024 election? i want to bring in with it whit ayres, president of north star -- and republican political strategist -- cher michaels and former dnc communications director, mo elleithee. -- when you are looking at the republican primary voters and how they're responding so far to all that we've learned. what do you? saying >> abby, it depends upon
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which republican primary voters you are talking about. the gop is split into three factions. there is a never trump faction that is appalled that trump took over the gop. and they will react to the indictment as though it tells them everything they always knew about donald trump. that's only about 10%. there isn't always trump faction, which is about 35%. those people will walk through a wall of flame for donald trump. they will brook no criticism of him. criticizing donald trump to all of these trump voters is like criticizing jesus in a rural evangelical church. it's not going to have any effect on jesus's reputation, but it will short trash the reputation of anybody that takes a shot at him. a majority of the party, about 55%, voted for trump twice, would vote for him again over joe biden in a heartbeat. but they are concerned he might be carrying so much baggage
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that he will have a hard time winning. they are maybe trump voters. and the real question is what effect these indictments will have on them. initially, it's caused them to rally around them. but there's a lot of evidence out there. >> but do you think it helps trump to double down on the fact that he's been indicted twice, and maybe might be indicted a third time, or even a fourth time? >> abby, that's his modus operandi. he always doubles down. he will triple down if he's charged in fulton county. so, he's always going to do that. that's the most predictable thing in american politics. >> one of the interesting things -- to bring you guys in -- donald trump, this past week made some comments that got my attention. i want to just go ahead and play them for you. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor. to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the united states of america, joe biden. [applause] and the entire biden crime family.
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i will totally obliterate the deep state. >> so, if you are listening -- if you are a political person maybe that does not sounds particularly special to you. but what struck me is that it was very explicit. that he wants a prosecutor to go after biden. and now the new york times has reporting that says that that it's not just a flippant political comment. that's a strategy that is being promoted by some conservative think tanks. i wonder how -- not just republican voters, but just the rest of the voting population, swing voters, we'll take that. >> i think for republican voters, they do agree. i was just in georgia recently, as part of a focus group. and some of the republicans who were voting -- or supporting ron desantis have flipped, and now support -- did not like the fact that the doj under the current president was investigating the guy who would likely be his front-runner.
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now, when you explain the nuances of what this element, they did necessarily. here they said, it doesn't look right. i don't like the political out optics. therefore, i'm standing behind donald trump. whether or not this will have an impact with swing voters come the general election, i'm not really sure. but i do believe it cement style trump standing within the republican party, which is why you see about 63%, and the closest competitor ron desantis at barely 20. >> of course, the same voters had no problem when candidate trump was threatening to investigate his leading political opponent back in 2016. right? so, it all depends on the perspective. but beyond republican base, i think we've now seen three straight national elections, in 2018, in 2020, and in 2022, where what is best to win over the republican base is the worst strategy to win in a general election, to win over independent voters. the conventional wisdom, in 2022, with that now republican
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candidate could run in those midterms without fully embracing the idea that the 2020 election was stolen. so, many of them did. and most of them got punished by general election voters. >> that does strike me as a big risk, what mo is just describing. which is that sometimes going all in on the message that worked for the republican base is a double soared in a general election context. >> it's a huge risk. republicans, as mo said, lost in 2018, 2020, and 2021 in georgia for the senate seat, and 2022. there is a question of whether you can even make that case for republicans. that it is really risky to go down the same road again, after four losses in a row. but we'll see if a candidate and make that case. >> to your point, there is the recent recent cbs yougov poll that found among republican primary voters, likely republican primary voters, 61% said the indictment wouldn't change their view of trump.
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7% said it would worsen. and 14% said it would improve their view of trump. that's extraordinary. if you add no change in -- and improve, you're looking at a pretty high number there. 75% of the republican party. >> there's a whole lot of people who believe that this is a politically motivated indictment. and they're just going to reject it because of that belief. >> president biden, though, his campaign defended there decision not to fund-raise off of this indictment. meanwhile, trump has raised $7 million in that first 24-hour period. were they right to do that? >> yeah. if they had been sending out fundraising emails under the banner of the biden harris campaign, they'd be making donald trump's point that this is overly political. by saying, you know, what will let that process play out. we're gonna go out there and actually talk about things that voters care about in their daily lives. but we are not going to politicize this process.
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that is the smart thing to do. also, they don't necessarily need to fund-raise. there is going to be plenty of money out there flowing to the biden harris campaign. >> trump's a huge motivator for democrats as he is in some way for republicans. but everyone, stand by for us, we have more on our breaking news tonight. authorities in texas are now preparing for a mass casualty event after a tornado ripped through perryton. stunning video is now coming in. right there you can see it. an extremely dangerous situation. we'll give you more on that as it comes. plus, former president obama is now long gone from politics. but he's still weighing in on republicans. and on his own party, we'll tell you what he said, next. mutual, mom. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. check it out, you could save $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, i'll look into that. let me put a reminder on my phone. save $700 dollars. pick up dad from airport? ohhhhhh.
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subpoenas on that, but they found no direct tie to biden. instead, they are citing an fbi document, that summarizes unverified claims by an informant. and that informant, alleging that a ukrainian executive offered bribes of $5 million. now cnn's sara murray reports, that investigators haven't been able to corroborate that claim. here is grassley earlier this, week on the senate floor. >> that the foreign national who allegedly bribe joe and hunter biden, allegedly has audio recordings of his conversation with them. 17, such recordings. these recordings were allegedly kept as a sort of insurance policy, for the foreign national in case that he got into a tight spot. >> but just days after raising the possible existence of those tapes, grassley is now saying something different.
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>> i just know they exist because of what the report said. now maybe they don't exist, but how will i know until the fbi tells us. are they showing us are? work >> some republican colleagues in the congress, who have mostly been aggressive and in going after the bidens, they won't go there on the tapes. >> do you think they exist? and if yes, how to obtain them? >> we don't know. and, senator grassley has never said they exist. i'm not aware that we have verified that those recordings exist. >> we don't know for sure, if these tapes exist. >> we don't know if they are legit or not. >> and even trump's former attorney general, bill barr, said that the claims in that report were unverified. and he had forwarded them to investigators during his tenure. so it's noteworthy about all this -- republicans were upset over unverified claims in the infamous and now largely discredited steele dossier. republicans, like chuck
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grassley. he wrote a letter to the fbi demanding information about christopher steele, citing, quote unverified memorandum that steele authorized authored about trump -- but with all these claims involving biden, it appears that grassley is playing to an audience of one. and that is the former president. >> i hope he thinks i'm doing good work. -- think that of my oversight work. >> and, meantime, former president barack obama is speaking out now, and taking a shot at republicans who he says are not doing enough to acknowledge racial inequality. he says the gop needs to have an honest accounting of our past and present, listen. >> if somebody is not with proposing, both acknowledging
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and proposing elements that say, no, we can't just ignore all of that and pretend as if everything is equal and fair. we actually have to walk the walk, and not just talk the talk. if they are not doing that, then i think people are rightly skeptical. there may come a time where there is somebody in the republican party that is more serious about actually addressing some of the deep inequality that still exists in our society. that tracks race, and as a consequence of our racial history. and if that happens, i think that would be fantastic. i haven't yet seen it. >> back here now with whit, michael and mo. -- broad view of race. what do you say to? that >> look, i think senator tim scott is trying to walk away very delicate balance in that regard. he is trying to be optimistic,
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and forward thinking in terms of race, by making comments like the country is better, that he shouldn't be the exception, or he shouldn't be the rule necessarily. there should be tons of rules, and not the exception. but i also think about president obama's remarks in 2013, at my alma mater -- morehouse college, when he essentially stated that no one cares. when you're on an international stage, against people from china and brazil, about some racial barriers you may have had. because you are competing with people who are trying to be number one in their sector. and so i think in that regard we can acknowledge the progress that we have obviously made from the past but i think the former president is correct that we saw the long journey to make. there are a lot of strides that we have to continue to make as a country to move forward. >> i want to play, actually, what tim scott has said, that obama was actually reacting to. these comments were made on tv just a couple of days ago. >> the issue of discrimination that i have faced, that you have faced as well, is an issue of heart. it's not republicans or democrats.
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frankly, both sides of the aisle can do better jobs on the issue of race. and frankly, my side of the i'll, i think, is doing a fabulous job of making progress. the question is, how do we as you that progress? >> what my read, or my listen of obama's comments, was not so much to be necessarily critical of tim scott, but to say that, perhaps, there is more that needs to be said. and tim scott really is kind of out there alone, in having this conversation even with republicans. even to the extent that he is, about race. >> tim scott's perspective is really important in this debate, i think. because he does have a unique perspective. no one should ever downplay the searing effects of racism in this country. but the question is, how you measure progress. progress is not the absence of problems. there are always problems. you measure progress by the determining whether you would rather have the problems of today or the problems of yesterday. and yesterday, it wasn't that long ago when a black person
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could marry a white person, and if they did, they would go to jail. -- in for segregation in this country. but now, we have had a black president. we have a black vice president and i think almost anyone would say we would like to have the racial problems we have today rather than the racial problems of yesterday. >> do you, mo. -- i mean, do you think that even what obama is talking about there is possible? to have in today's republican party, that conversation? >> it's interesting. since we're talking about tim scott, back in 2016, tim scott gave a speech on the floor of the senate that, really, i think everybody pay attention to. in which he talked about his own history, right, having been stopped seven times in one year. he said, i felt the pressure applied by the scales of justice when they are slanted. there is absolutely nothing more frustrating, and more damaging to your soul, then then when you know you are following the rules of being treated like you are not. back then, tim scott seemed to acknowledge that there are some systemic challenges that are
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leading to some of these problems. today's republican party doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that, and you see that being played out in state after state, in school board after school board, by those people who are going after even the conversations about race in public schools. there seems to be a pushback, by those who are fighting against wokeism, a push back against the notion that it is okay to acknowledge that we continue, despite all of our progress, that we continue to have systemic racism in society. and that they don't want government to deal with it at all. >> i mean, what do you say to that? i mean, when you see what's happening in places like florida and texas, it's definite painting a very different picture of how much the republican party really wants to talk about race in a way that deals with the past, adequately and also the progress. >> i mean look, i think it's the biggest hurdle that the republican has had, for the
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past five decades now, is the as it pertains to black americans and their views and perspectives on the republican party. and the party not being full forward thinking on the issue of race as it once was, nearly a quarter of a century ago. i think it's really difficult to not acknowledge that there are systemic issues that exist. look at the disparities in terms of housing, look at the disparities in terms of health care, look at the disparities in terms of economically, look at the disparities in education. all of those things can be statistically tracked in regards to the differences between black americans and white americans. we have to address the things. >> i want to play one more thing from president obama, former president obama's interview with david axelrod. >> now, when he's true, i think, is we have tended at times, on the progressive side, to tip into kind of a scolding, social etiquette police.
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and virtue -- virtue signaling. whereby, if somebody doesn't say something exactly the right way, even if we all know they kind of didn't mean it in an offensive way. and suddenly, you've got -- partly because of social media -- everybody jumping on them, and saying, oh, you must be racist or sexist. >> he's talking to his own congregation there. >> yeah, and he's not wrong, right? there are plenty of people out there, who do not allow the grace of people making mistakes, or understanding that some people travel along this path a little bit slower than others. and maybe, the rest of us can help them get there a little bit quicker, as opposed to immediately, immediately saying, if you are not 100 percent with me right now, you are a racist or a sexist. and we've seen that backlash even some of the most progressive jurisdictions in the country. so i don't think the president is wrong. that does not mean we give any
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grace to those people who really are trying to hold back process progress, or even worse, try to roll it back. but we need to find ways to connect with people heart to heart on these issues, in order to bring them along. we have shown we can do that before, we can continue to do that. >> and tim scott, can speak to those issues in a way that other republicans will be willing to listen. and that's one of the huge advantages he has here. he does have a glass half full -- rather than half empty perspective. but he could talk about these issues in a way that center right voters will listen to him, and not just reject him out of hand. >> while this is why debates will be so interesting in this race. because once there is a lot of pressure to go hard against woke, so to speak, it'll be interesting to see how tim scott navigates that. but thank you all for joining us. we have more now on our breaking news on the devastation in -- perryton, texas, after a direct
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we are now back to the situation texas, in perryton, near amarillo, where a massive tornado tore through that area. the mayor says that some, unfortunately did not make. it and as you can see there, there is significant destruction. we just got in some chilling video of that tornado. i want you to take a moment, and listen to what it sounded like on the ground.
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so, chad, how bad is this? >> i think it's probably gonna be looking at an ef3. so into the major category for sure. now a lot of the damage that i've seen today, aluminum siding, shingles. but there were mobile homes that were completely destroyed. and i know a 100 mile per hour wind gust can do that. but there were also big structures that were brick built, stick built, that also really received quite a bit of damage. we will see, the weather service has to go out. what's really interesting i think today to, not only the perryton tornado. there is damage in michigan. there was a tornado on the ground not that far from sandusky, ohio. just about 30 minutes ago, there was a tornado on the ground near pensacola, south of pensacola, florida, near the shore. and all of the tornadoes that were 1000 miles or more to the west. so what a violent, violent day we had today. now, the tornado threat is beginning to diminish, but the hail threat and the wind threat is not over yet for tonight. we are still going to have that threat, at least until probably two or 3:00 in the morning.
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after dark, storms are harder to see. tornadoes are harder to report, so the damage really is what you look for, even power flashes in the sky. there are still storms out there. oklahoma city, expected to your north and even toward i would say -- norman and points east toward, shawnee. you have a couple of storms, and the only real rotating storm we have is just to the east -- of sherman dennison in texas. but this was a day, that we would really like to forget. an awful lot of rain, and big hail, and wind. some of the wind gusts i'm i'm sure we will top 70 to 75 miles per hour, abby, even in the overnight hours. yet, so this all isn't isn't over yet. >> yeah, that's exactly what i was wondering. and i also wonder is, we were just look at those pictures of the burnt out, what looked like mobile homes. did those folks have much warning, that something like this was coming their way? >> you know, i listened to the storm chasers, and he said boy, this went from an ef0 to a three in no time.
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so, yes, there was a warning out there but, i don't believe it was the warning that people really thought that they needed to hear. and this is the key. if you hear that word warning, or if your phone goes off, you cannot treat it like a small issue, a small tornado. because you don't know if it's going to be your neighborhood or not. now, the entire town of perryton did not get hit, but the center part of town, the tornado went right smack through the center part of town. north, southside a little bit better. did not fare as well in the middle. and this is what we are seeing right here, this is really the middle part of the town asked, the storm, the tornado itself, cut right from west the east right across the city and the town itself. and that is what happened there. this was brian's video, i was watching it live as he shot this. he did a really fantastic job today, and i hope he saved some lives. because that's why storm chasers go out, there to get the word out that yes, i see a tornado on the ground, and we need to have a warning on it. that's what they are therefore.
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>> yeah, he was incredibly close to that storm, at least it seemed so by the video. and we certainly hope that everyone is safe tonight, and we will keep updating that story as we go along, chad. thank you very much, and up next for us, prince harry and his wife meghan have been waging a very public war against the press. and now, there is a surprising public apology from a magazine editor who played a role in some of that coverage. are you? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [people cheering] i was stuck. unresolved depression symptoms were in my way. i needed more from my antidepressant.
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the royal family, is now sharing her regrets in a newly published letter. alice o'connell writes in part, i published some stories that were unfair, and incredibly one-sided. i can now see that they were from sources who weren't telling the truth. my biggest mistake, though, was that i stop seeing harry as a human being. alice o'connell joins us now. alice, thank you for joining us. you have said that you owed a genuine apology to prince harry for quite some time. why are you coming forward now? >> it felt like the right time. it's been about three years since i was the magazine editor. and i think that time has gave me some perspective, and i've now reflected on the role that i played in all of this. and i think, in the meantime, i've just been increasingly frustrated by watching the media coverage on prince harry and meghan markle, and just how -- in my opinion, how unfair, how distorted, how often just quite
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mean and spiteful that coverage can be. and i've hoped that maybe a reporter or a news organization might take a step back and look at the way that they have covered the royal family, particularly prince harry and meghan markle. and look at how they have in the past, how they are now. whether it's justified, or whether they might need to course correct. and i thought, why keep waiting? why not just do it myself? >> i want to show folks at home some of the magazine covers that you approve during your time as an editor. and you say that you stopped seeing harry as a human being in that time. that is -- that is really quite the confession. i wonder, how did that happen? why did that happen? >> yeah. the royal family have a real hold on us in new zealand. we are part of the commonwealth. and so, they have been part of a big part of our society for more than a century, in terms of the media. i think it's how we deal with
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celebrities, that we can put them in a bubble, that they live in whole other world. that they're not like us regular folk. and i think i got caught up in that, and the churn of this news cycle, and i stop realizing that this was a real person, who never asked for this life, who was born into it, who has been scrutinized since he was just an embryo, and has really not deserved the way that he's been treated by the media. and, yeah -- i feel felt like i need to stand up for him, and look at what i had done in the past -- also. >> i wonder what you would say to them, if they were watching tonight. what would you say about everything that's transpired? >> sure. i would say to keep going with what you are doing. and i'm sorry, as i've written in my article, and -- for what i have done and what i did when i was a magazine editor. and i'm genuinely sorry for that time. but i think what they are doing
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on not staying silent about this, and continuing to let people know what it's like out there, that they should continue to do so. >> and prince harry is currently in the midst of a major court battle with a publisher, over this very issue. so, we really appreciate your perspective on this, alice o'connell, thank you very much for joining us. >> you as well -- >> coming up next for us -- more on our breaking news on that massive tornado damage, in parts of texas. and alisyn camerota will it pick up our coverage in a moment.
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alisyn camerota. -- ripping through northern texas. damage in the panhandle is extensive. many homes in the town of perryton are leveled. much of the downtown is destroyed. one local official tells cnn, that they are preparing for a quote, possible mass casualty event. the red cross is mobilizing support teams right now. in a moment we will speak with officials on the ground and let you know what they know about injuries and fatalities. and, of course, where the storm is right now. we also have new developments tonight in the case against former president trump. donald trump's lawyers are seeking security clearances as a federal judge, who is overseeing this trial, the trump appointee aileen cannon, gets the ball rolling. but what was donald trump's motive for taking those documents in the first place? and will the prosecutors need to lay that out, in order to
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get a conviction? we will discuss all of that. but we do want to begin with the breaking news tonight. so, a tornado has touched down in perryton, texas, causing major destruction and anguish. a local hospital says it is treating between 50 and 75 people. texas governor greg abbott, mobilizing the texas division of emergency management -- joining us on the phone right now is brian enfinger, he is a storm chaser. brian, tell us where you are and what you are seeing. >> yeah, i have been in perryton most of the afternoon. -- i didn't want to be in the way of the search and rescue -- but the tornado cut right through town, so this quite a bit of devastation right across perryton. >> and did you see injuries? did you see people? were you just seeing homes? >> so, the worst thing that i saw is on the northwest part of town, basically right where the tornado touched down.
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those people would have had very little warnings, because the tornado formed there rapidly. and there's a mobile home park. there and -- a third, maybe as much as half of the whole mobile home park -- it's hard to tell because it just piles of rubble. and even, for a while right after the tornado, it was on fire, actually. and so, it was -- the short notice -- everyone made it out of there okay, it would be a miracle. and the tornado continue to cross town. homes, businesses, it went right through the downtown area. and then into the industrial part of town, so it literally hit the -- the downtown, and then the industrial part of town as well. >> oh my gosh, brian enfinger, we are looking at your video right now. we are seeing we can see the turbulent sky but then we did just see the mobile home park that you were talking about, and it looks, as you say, completely devastated.
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