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you. you're a real pro. i know it is not easy for you. i remember. and one of jill's favorite people in the whole world, and mine, i always introduce her as she is mark kelly is her husband. ladies and gentlemen, gabby gifford. [ cheers and applause ] gabby has more courage than most people i have ever known. i would be honored to bestow the presidential medal of freedom on gabby, not only for her courage, but her intellect, to help carry this movement. she's not stopping now. she's not stopping now. gabby, i love you. you're wonderful. [ applause ] congressman larsson, thanks for the passport to your strict. you've never given. you've never given up either. to the state and local leaders, the mayor, others, the
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dedication of this vital issue is critical. it really is. look, you know, to the survivors and families, jill and i, jill and my wife, jill is not here today with me, she is in delaware right now, she had to go back up, jill and i have gotten to know many of you over the years. some of us have become friends for a long time. kept in touch. mark, good to see you again. your family. and loss is maybe different circumstances, but we shared before something that helped our family. when my wife and daughter were killed in a tractor trailer struck them and just after i got elected, my two boys weren't expected to live, and then later when my son beau, the attorney general, and spent a year in iraq died, stage four glioblastoma, my daughter ashley tapped -- taped a mirror -- excuse me, a message to the mirror, the way we get to -- everything gets to me through my wife and daughter now.
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so they know i have to shave in the morning. so they'll tape on the mirror for real, so i can see when i was shaving. one take she left me a quote from emanuel conte who wrote that finding happiness and peace of mind when it seems impossible can be done. he said, you need something to do, someone to love, and something to hope for. something to do, was the to fulfill the promise i made to my son beau and my family and your families and you made too, i would not retreat from public life in the sadness that i felt afterwards. that i would stay engaged to solve problems. someone to love, my family, my kids, my grandkids. and something to hope for, all of you survivors and advocates built real movement with something to hope for. something to hope for. at your collective trauma and
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injuries are not going to be in vain. your friend, your family member, your loved one did not die in vain. that by acting in their memory, you can prevent the next tragedy, you can save lives, you can save families. and the process, you can continue to save the country. and i mean that. look, folks, a year ago the conventional wisdom was we would never get any republicans to support gun legislation. period. that was the conventional wisdom. and all the usual obstacles have blocked us once again, but it didn't happen. instead, i signed into law the bipartisan community act, which we referenced several times today, which many described -- which many striked described ast significant gun safety law in 30 years. it is. for me and for most of you, here's what it really is.
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it is an important first step. [ cheers and applause ] i know it feels like it isn't enough when you turn on the news and see another tragedy at a school, a grocery store, a parade or a place in america. honestly, i feel like that as well. the facts give us reason to hope, though. so far this year murders down in many major cities across the country. there is far too much gun violence, but that's why this is so important. why chris asked me to be here today, with the following message. one year ago we did come together. we did hear the call for too many families. every one of those families i met, all the places i mentioned, i was there -- i met with every single family. and you know what they say, almost the same phrase, do something. do something. and then in response, usually it was my prayers are with you. well, prayers are fine. they're important. it doesn't happen again. but it is not going to stop it.
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have to take action. have to move. have to do something and so what happened? we began to continue to fight again. for a while there, there are only about two dozen of us in the congress or vice president or when i was -- as president who thought anything could be done. we did pass the most meaningful gun safety law in 30 years. we did overcome an unrelenting opposition of the gun lobby to gun manufacturers and so many politicians who hide behind the belief that they'll never have to pay a price for their inaction. when they oppose common sense gun legislation. and we beat them. we beat them. [ cheers and applause ] and we did it through a bipartisan effort that included a majority of responsible gun owners. because whether you're a democrat or a republican, we' al want families to be safe. we all want to drop them off at a house of worship, the movies,
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at school, without worrying that that's the last time we're ever going to see them. we all want our kids to have the freedom to learn and read and write instead of learning how to duck and cover in a classroom. and above all, we all agree we are not finished. we are not finished. we are not finished. [ cheers and applause ] look, i know you had a full day. folks, listening at home, here is a quick summary of what this law is doing. it is already allowing the justice department through the fbi to run enhanced background checks on young people under 21 trying to buy a firearm. this legislation is already provided more than $230 million for states to expand the use of tools like the red flag laws as my son was the first to enforce when he was attorney general, which says that a court has the right to temporarily remove a firearm where there is danger to themselves or others.
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more people die from gun violence as a consequence of suicide than anything else that happens in the nation. suicide. already delivered more than $1.5 billion to states and communities to make schools safer and improve access to mental health services and help young people deal with the grief and trauma resulting from gun violence, post traumatic stress syndrome. it includes an additional 14,000 mental health professionals hired and trained to work at our schools. the law helps prevent domestic abusers from purchasing guns. i'm the guy that wrote the violence against women act. i proposed a long time ago -- i didn't say it for that reason. but i care deeply about it because the ultimate abuse, the abuse of power, my dad used to say, the single worst abuse of all was the abuse of power.
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i fought to close the boyfriend loophole. you had an order against a man or woman because of your boyfriend or girlfriend, and they weren't your spouse, then guess what, they decided not to impose this limitation on being able to own a weapon. so we finally can say that those convicted of domestic violence abuse against their boyfriend or girlfriend cannot buy a firearm, period. [ cheers and applause ] by the way, it is already saving lives. there are fewer deaths occurring in that area. for the first time ever, we made gun trafficking a federal crime. what the hell, it wasn't already? you say gun traffic is now a crime, they'll look at you, what are you talking about, it has always been a crime. it wasn't a crime. we did the same thing for straw
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purchases. that's when a middle man who can pass the background check buys a gun, uses it for someone who can't pass a background check. it is now a federal crime if you did that. and finally -- [ cheers and applause ] and finally we clarified who needs to register as a federal licensed gun dealer. because a federally licensed gun dealer is required by law to run background checks on those he's selling a weapon to. and in most cities, down in philadelphia and new york, areas i know well, like up here, you see a truck pull up, pull to the curb and selling weapons, selling guns, selling ar-15s, selling weapons. well, guess what, you do that now, you go to jail. [ cheers and applause ] there is so much more. but the bottom line if this law had been in place a year ago, lives would have been saved. and it is in place now. and it is saving lives today. we got it done because of you. not a joke.
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you all think we're being nice to you. you're tough. thank god. but i really mean this, because of you. moms demand action. [ cheers and applause ] no, i -- i really mean it. what did you do? when young people are coming out, people who you grew up with, who didn't think this was real, the suburbanite republican man or woman or democrat, not just republican, thinks, well, everything is fine, all of a sudden, they see someone of your caliber, someone of your commitment, walking down the street saying we got to do something. it matters. it matters. it matters. it matters. and you can feel it. you can taste it what you're doing. and here's the deal, you're changing the culture, proving we can do more than just thoughts and prayers. you're changing our politics.
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you're registering voters. you're recruiting candidates. you're getting them elected. you're proving that you're powerful and relentless. and it matters. it matters. they know you're not going away. as i just said when i signed the law, a call to action to do more, because i don't see -- this was enough, neither do you -- really important, really if nothing else happened, we changed things for the better. so i set out to take as much executive action, a fancy word of saying what can i do as president on my own? executive action. it made it illegal to manufacture so-called ghost guns. i just signed that. i said that. it is being challenged in court, but so far it matters. allowing anyone to assemble a gun at home, bought from several different places in as little as 30 minutes, come on. these weapons don't have serial numbers. that's why they like to buy
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them. so criminals can use them, commit crimes and not leave behind a registration of who owned the weapon. made it harder for people to buy stabilized braces, put a pistol on a brace, turns it into a gun, makes it more -- you can have a higher caliber bullet coming out of that gun. it is essentially turning it into a short barrel rifle. which has been a weapon of choice by a number of mass shooters. making it easier to buy gun locks and other safe storage at gun stores. if anyone of you drove up to the parking lot here today, got out of your car and left a key in your car, and a kid comes along, 13, 14 years old, gets in your car, takes it on a joyride and kills someone, guess what, you're liable. why should that not be the case to lock up your weapon? why should that not be the case? why is that not required?
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most gun owners agree with me. we also established the zero tolerance policy for rogue gun dealers who willfully violate the law. now instead of a slap on the wrist, their license is revoked. you have a lot of gun dealers engaged in shady actions. guess what, used to be that they get a fine. now they lose their license to sell. we establish a strike force to crack down on gun trafficking across state lines including guns brought up from georgia, south carolina, washington, philadelphia, new york, right here to hartford. all told we have taken more executive action to reduce gun violence than any of my predecessors, probably all my predecessors. they're being challenged in court, but so far, so good. and the budget i submitted to congress would help reduce crime by increasing funding, to go after gun traffickers. and by the way -- you know what i get when i talk about the fentanyl at the border and all
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that? i speak with the president of mexico, will you stop sending guns to us? we are sending dangerous weapons, particularly assault weapons, to mexico. to mexico. they're asking us, please stop it. cut it off at the border. what in god's name could be coming if we don't do this? look, ladies and gentlemen, for those who say they're concerned about crime, you can't deal with crime without dealing with gun violence. it is a simple proposition. [ applause ] remember, for a long time in america, car accidents were the leading killer of children. this was mentioned earlier. then in 2020, guns became the number one killer of children in america. guns. more than car accidents, more than cancer.
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let me say that again. we can't let that just become another statistic. guns, the number one killer of children in the united states of america? folks, it is time once again that we ban ar-15 rifle style weapons. high capacity magazines. [ cheers and applause ] they're not only a weapon of war, they're the single biggest driver of profits for the gun industry. that's why they're selling them. profit, profit, profit. the single biggest. as i said, we did this once before in '94 and ten years after that, the ban, the mass shooting was down significantly. the number of mass shootings. back when the ban expired, mass shootings tripled. let the ban on assault weapons, high capacity magazines come back into vogue.
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look, i find it outrageous that of all the industries in america, by the way, i've been doing this a long time, i know i don't look that old, i know. i'm a little under 103. but all kidding aside, i thought, i mean, i'm going to say something outrageous, pretty powerful senator, i managed some of the biggest committees, judiciary, foreign policy. but i didn't know ten years ago, i didn't know that gun manufacturers were immune from liability. i didn't know that. gun manufacturers. just imagine how many more people would be dead if the tobacco industry, if the tobacco industry was immune from liability. you couldn't sue the tobacco industry. i mean, i'm deadly earnest. think about the number of people who would be dead today that are
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alive because we could sue them. and they paid billions of dollars for their -- for the damage they were doing. well, we need to end immunity for gun manufacturers. got to hold them accountable. and it is time we establish universal background checks and safe storage for firearms. just remember, the united states of america has the finest fighting force in the history of the world. we provide these same service members with the most lethal weapons on earth. but we also require them to receive significant training before they're allowed to use them. we require extensive background checks and mental health assessment on them before they can be allowed to use them. these are common sense requirements. all gun owners should follow. every gun owner should be
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required to have the same requirements held to him or her. we know what to do. congress needs to act. let me be clear about something. if this congress refuses to act, we need a new congress. [ cheers and applause ] and we need states to act as well. not every state has a governor as competent as governor lamont and i mean that. but they can do a lot more. look what the governor has done here in this state. less than two weeks ago here in connecticut, governor lamont signed a bipartisan legislation with more than a dozen measures to prove gun safety. from providing open carry and strengthenin ing -- prohibiting open carry. illinois, washington state, passed assault weapons bans this year. bringing the total to ten states, the district of
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colucol columbia. establishing or strengthening red flag laws. now, 21 states, plus the district of columbia have red flag laws in effect. since 2021, seven states have passed an increase in accountability. for the gun industry. i said, beginning -- at the beginning, they turned their pain into purpose. turned your cause into reality. i believe we reached the tipping point in this nation. i really do. swear to god. people in this room are the big reason why we reached that tipping point. as senator murphy says, success begets success. but the converse is also true, failure begets failure. that's why jill and i, kamala, and the entire administration, we're more determined than ever that you should be successful as well. look, let me close with this. i know many people here who have been impacted by gun violence, lost someone they loved, fought so hard for so many years, a lot
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of you are tired. you're tired. i get it. try being 110 and doing it again. all kidding aside, a lot of people are frustrated. my mother, god love her, all 5'1", she would look at me and say, joey, never bow, never bend, never yield, never kneel, we never will on this issue. never, never, never, never, never. [ cheers and applause ] folks -- are we ever going to make progress we need to make? i'm here to tell you we cannot give up. we will not get there. i still remember the people i met with in newtown and orlando and las vegas and pittsburgh and charleston, parkland, el paso, uvalde, buffalo, monterey park and so many other places, that never make the headlines.
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i've never forgotten them. and i never will forget them. and i'll never stop fighting for them. i promise you. and i believe this is true that everyone in this room, you'll never stop fighting for them as well. we will ban assault weapons in this country. we will ban multiround magazines. we will hold gunmakers liable. we will beat the gun industry. we will beat big money that sits behind them. and the politicians who refuse to stand up and act. it won't be easy. i have no illusions. i have no illusions about the people in this room. look at what you've already done here in connecticut and around the country. look at the movement you built. look at the people you helped elect. look at the progress you made in state houses. look at all the mothers organizing all across the country. listen to the young people who have spoken out here today. they're speaking for the whole
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generation. and they will not be ignored. they will not be shunned. they will not be silent in this moment, in this moment, we have to remember what i got to know him, nelson mandela, when i tried to get to africa, to south africa to meet him. and he came back and he met me when he was finally freed, met me at the white house. and he looked at me and i swear to god, wasn't unique to me, i'm sure, he said, always seems impossible until it gets done. there's nothing beyond our capacity. that's the power of memory of your loved one. that's the power of this -- that's the power of america. our lives and the lives of our nation find purpose. something to do, someone to love, something to hope for. we have to just keep going and keep the faith. every time i walk out might have grandfather's house, joey, keep the faith. my grandmother would yell, no, joey, spread it. remember who we are.
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we're the united states of america! and there is nothing beyond our capacity when we do it together. god bless you all and may god protect our troops. we can get this done. [ cheers and applause ] thank you, thank you, thank you. i mean it. thank you. as some of you know, i usually come down and say hi to all of you. they tell me there is a storm coming in. is that right? is that still the deal? if that's the truth, don't make a lie. that scene in the john wayne movie, don't make me a dog faced lying pony soldier. all right. well, i tell you what, here's what i'm going to do. i'm going to ask the white house photographer to come up and i'm going to stand and i can't -- i usually shake everybody's hand. but i'm going to stand in front of each section, i really mean it, and then if you can see the camera, they can see you. and it is the least consequential part of the whole meeting for you, i promise.
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>> we have been listening to president biden speaking at the safer communities summit in west hartford, connecticut. the president marking one year since passing the bipartisan safer communities act, the most sweeping piece of gun control legislation passed in the united states in some 30 years. the president saying, it is a first step, quote, we are not finished, calling for more, a new legislative ban on assault weapons, a ban on high capacity magazines and more expensive red flag laws. we want to go to cnn's priscilla alvarez who is there for us. i found it notable, the president putting out a call not only to congress, but also to voters. the president saying this congress needs to act, and if they refuse to, we, quote, need a new congress. >> reporter: that's right. this was an impassioned speech by president biden. it went about 30 minutes and regularly during that, his
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remarks, he would punctuate his words, making clear that there needs to be more action on this issue. and this was a president biden who arrived as the consoler in chief. he began by sympathizing with the loss of some of those in the crowd. several hundred people here, some of them are victims of gun violence, some of them from the mass shootings that we have covered and so he sympathized with that loss, but also expressed optimism by saying that this was a movement that was garnering more momentum and punctuated by the legislation passed a year ago. and just to go through some of that, which president biden also ticked through that included toughening background checks as well as closing a loophole for domestic violence laws, and helping states with red flag laws. and while he did urge congress to act, there is also a reality that that action has been stalled. and so he also called on states, as connecticut has done, to pass their own red flag laws to try to prevent gun violence.
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now, i have talked to white house officials and this is an issue that president biden has cared deeply about from the beginning. and it is one that they have worked behind the scenes to try to address in the ways that they can in the executive, like, for example, taking fema-like responses, to show you how commonplace this has become, where they talk about how they can help communities, not just in the short-term, but also in the long-term. but that aside, the president making clear that it is not only the executive that needs to act and do more, but also congress. and i have been speaking to advocates here as well as in anticipation of this event, and they have expressed optimism about the legislation passed a year ago and where their movement is now. but it is a long way to go. and just to note, ten years ago in 2013 after the shooting at sandy hook, former president barack obama was the one giving the speech here. ten years later, we're talking about gun violence still and the continuing growing tally of mass shootings, but this legislation
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is a sign of hope, according to advocacy groups that there is a path forward here. >> and, priscilla, the president giving an impassioned closing to that speech, quoting nelson mandela saying, quote, it seems impossible until it gets done. thank you so much for that reporting. stay with "cnn news central." we're going to take a quick break and we'll be back in just moments.
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maneuver near a u.s. spy plane over the south china sea, and earlier this month two warships nearly collided in the taiwan strait. our co-anchor, jim sciutto, is joining us from taipei, taiwan. blinken is going to be the first secretary of state to visit china since 2018. i think that's really important to note. also the first biden cabinet official to travel to the country. what are his goals going to be? >> reporter: listen, this has been a really deeply, deeply tense time in the u.s./china relationship with genuine fears of escalation, particularly as you have those close military encounters, but also fears of escalation over the standoff over taiwan, where i am right now, and fears that china still has plans, desires, ambitions to take it by military force. so, this meeting doesn't have frankly high hopes. it is really u.s. officials say, about opening communication channels between the two countries, with the particular emphasis on military to military
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communications because u.s. officials have said they want to allow for the chance to de-escalate the encounters you've had, like that ship cutting off the u.s. destroyer or a jet flying close to a u.s. spy plane, so that those incidents don't become bigger and then, brianna, you have these other major issues including the u.s. continuing to push china not to supply arms to russia for its war in ukraine. that is a continuing bone of contention between the two countries and blinken certainly communicates u.s. concerns about ukraine as well. >> jim, as you mentioned, you are there in taiwan. i wonder how closely folks there are following this trip. >> reporter: extremely closely because, you know, they have taiwan's relationship with china, but they also have taiwan's relationship with the u.s., which they see as crucial to its defense. it is not just about supplying arms to taiwan, which is important, but it is also about diplomatic support, economic support as a way to really,
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frankly, deter china from taking the step of deciding potentially to invade this country. so they look at that relationship as key and they also frankly one thing i've been hearing here, brianna, they don't want to get in the middle between china and the u.s. they have their own concerns here. they have their own interests and they don't want to be, you know, something of a pawn, right, between beijing and washington. >> and what is china's reaction to this blinken visit, jim? >> you know, i'll tell you if you listen to the words, right, the statements from chinese officials it is far from conciliatory language in advance of the arrival of the highest ranking u.s. official to visit in a number of years. they warned the u.s. against what they called vicious competition. this responding to u.s. officials describing the competition between the u.s. and china, and they also accuse the u.s. of hegemonic behavior,
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that's china's words, china's words there, they accused the u.s. for a long time of basically trying to run things, control things in asia, and china in effect saying, hey, we're powerful now, our economy is powerful, our military is powerful, we're not going to stand for it anymore. >> yeah, they have a lot of disagreements to work out. jim, thank you so much. we look forward to having you back next week, of course. thanks for joining us. >> reporter: good to see you. >> boris? still to come this hour, an attorney for former president donald trump has just quit another case, citing, quote, irreconcilable differences. what we're learning when we come back.
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an attorney for former president donlald trump is calling it quits again. jim trusty recently left trump's legal team for the classified documents case after the federal indictment was unsealed. and now he's citing irreconcilable differences, pulling out of another case. it happens to be a lawsuit against our network, cnn. we're also learning today that two of trump's current lawyers, todd blanche and chris kise, have contacted the justice department to get security clearance. it is a requirement for them to access evidence in his federal case. the judge overseeing it, aileen cannon, told trump's legal team they had to get in touch with the doj by today. with us now to get some perspective is jameel jafer of the national security institute
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at the antonin scalia law school at george mason university. thank you for being with us. take us inside this process of getting security clearance for these attorneys. what is the significance of this step? >> well, it is critical they have security clearance because the documents that the president is charged with having possessed unlawfully and retained are top secret sensitive compartmented information. they need not just top secret clearance, but additional clearance beyond that, including potentially access to special access programs which allows them to see all the documents that the president is charged with withholding from the federal government. >> it is interesting that the judge made the deadline friday after he was arraigned on tuesday. it says something about the timing here, doesn't it? what do you think of her approach? >> it does appear the judge wants to move this along, ensure the attorneys are going to the justice department, getting the process started. these clearances can take months to get and so that may take a while because not only do you have to conduct a ten-year background check, you have to run all that down, interview people and the like getting
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these kinds of skuecurity clearances takes a while. >> they have to interview folks that know you and basically vouch for your -- how would you describe it, your character as a u.s. citizen? >> your trustworthiness. the whole idea is you don't want to be giving security clearances to people likely to give it to somebody else, handle it inappropriately as we have here, and the like. so you want to make sure the people you're giving clearances to can be trusted with the information. that's oftentime why defendants get lawyers who already have security clearances, something the president is probably looking into. >> i want to ask you about that. right now he is reportedly looking for more lawyers, more defense attorneys in the south florida area. they would need security clearances as well. in the meantime, you have this reporting he's had issued with attorneys in the past, one of them leaving a couple of cases he was involved in. so what kind of attorneys should trump be looking for here? >> in an ideal world, he would
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find an attorney that had existing security clearances that litigated involving classified information before. there are a lot of lawyers who represented people like chelsea manning, edward snowden and the like in these matters before, there are lots of attorneys with security clearances. the question is can the president find one that is willing to represent him. he's had trouble keeping attorneys in part because as we have seen even in this case his attorneys have had to wave the privilege because this crime fraud exception where he's saying as a justice department alleges, maybe we don't have these documents, maybe they're not here, maybe they got lost, that's a challenge for an attorney because that -- the attorney/client privilege doesn't protect that kind of behavior. >> you're referring to evan corcoran whose testimony may play a big role in this case. on the case of trusty, who dropped out of the civil matter with cnn, what do you make of him dropping out of that case and the other case? >> we don't know why he dropped out of the classified documents case. in the cnn case, he indicated to
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the court he and the president have irreconcilable differences. who knows what that means, but, you know, the president oftentimes has taken the view he's his own best lawyer, talking about things in public that may make it harder to defend him. that may be why. if your client doesn't take your advice, you know, it can be a real challenge for a lawyer. >> fair to say he has a history as a challenging client? >> i think, you know, we can see that. >> thank you for the time. appreciate it as always. brianna? >> as states like oregon have begun to prescribe psychedelic mushrooms to treat some mental health issues, a cnn reporter takes his own long strange trip to experience the effects firsthand. what he saw and how he feels now just ahead on "cnn news central." but eventually, it will remind you. when it does, aspen dental is h here for you. we offer the custom dental treatments you n need, all under one roof,, right nearby. so we can bring more life to your smile... and more smile to your life... affordably. new patients without insurance can get a free complete exam and x-rays,
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research on psychedelics is making a comeback, including cylacibin, magic mushrooms. it is legal on the federal level. this year oregon -- illegal. this year oregon became the first state to legalize magic mushrooms for therapeutic use. some people are taking part in wellness retreats now and cnn correspondent david culver takes us on a mind altering journey to oregon and jamaica in the next episode of "the whole story" with anderson cooper. ♪ >> reporter: embarking on a psychedelic trip requires a willingness to be vulnerable, to
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hold nothing back. >> this wasn't easy. i imagine for any of you to just say, yeah, let me jump in. you're here for a reason. >> reporter: documenting it with cameras for a story to be shared with the world? well, that suggests a near total surrender to the unknown. >> let go. let go with it. and just go with the flow. >> reporter: the experiences you're about to witness, they're intimate. they're exhilarating, and exhausting. after taking a dose of cy cylacybin, magic mushrooms, you wait. >> it brings you what you need, not what and david culver is jo us no now. we want to know what happens next. tell us what you witnesses? >> this is a fascinating, first off, and one that got
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surprisingly personal for me. so, you saw those individuals there. we were down in jamaica. this is part of a therapeutic structured retreat. there is a screening process to be in. and you can't be predisposed to certain medical conditions and preparing for the retreat, you then goo through two dosing ceremonies as they call them, this is when you take the mushrooms, they're grounded into cylacibin and putting into chocolate and teen and you go through that twice and then there is an integration session. but the four to six hours, that is how long it tends to last for most of us, you're essentially tripping. you're in the midst of this mind altering journey. and it is different for everyone. and i think that is what was so unique about approaching this story. unfortunately we had a whole hour to tell it and we do that this sunday, but each person coming at this from a different perspective. we have one young woman who was doing this so she could find some sort of fulfillment.
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she felt like there was a void in her life, especially after covid. she felt what many of us could relate with and that is isolation. and another guy was trying to curb his addiction to alcohol and years of a struggle for him. so it is neat to see what folks have come at this and what they've taken away from it. >> and i've heard about veterans suffering from ptsd looking toward substances that people that might that is recreational and they're using it a therapeutic way. you took these magic mushrooms as well. tell us what wthat was like. >> that is a different part oftory. i like to do somewhat of a immersive story, in china for the cnn and on the border most recently. i think the reason i went about this was, going back to late last year, i was trying to articulate and really describe
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what these mind alter yg experiences were like. but i didn't know what to draw on. i had no personal experience with it. and other aspect was i wanted to basically chronicle these individuals and in their very personal intimate journeys but they weren't comfortable with that and the retreat wasn't comfortable. and so we had conversations what if i'm a participants and then suddenly they felt more hopeful to open up and i'm grateful they did. >> i'm curious what someone that approves your expense report said about it. and this is such a unique thing to take a look at david, i'm very curious to see how it turned out. it is something that takes an hour to tell and thank you so much for giving us a preview and we'll turn into "the whole story" reqwith anderson cooper, airing sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern and pacific only on cnn.
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