tonight, a pretty wild discovery. researchers found a new species of dinosaur on an island off the coast of england. this is according to the natural history museum in london. these are images showing the -- first of its kind to be discovered on the isle of white in 142 years. you see those sharp spikes there? those are for armor. the dinosaur would have lived as far back as 145 million years ago. and experts say there are very few mfossils from this period, o this could reveal information about the mass extinction of dinosaurs. the dinosaur named is after the professor who has worked at the museum for 30 years. still to come on cnn, ronna mcdaniel joins kaitlan collins.

thank you so much for joining us. us. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com he has the right to remain silent. he's also donald trump. tonight on "360" the former president's eruption over the documents case, and is special counsel's latest move aimed at keeping potential evidence public. also tonight a live report from the texas panhandle, how people are coping in the wake of a sedevastating and deadly tornado. plus to ukraine. first up tonight, the trump documents case in a new sign of how serious jack smith is about keeping the defense and the defendant reined in. also a reminder today, this defendant has no desire to be reined in. >> virtually everyone is saying that the fake indictment is

about election interference and should not have been brought. except bill barr, a disgruntled former employee and very weak person. he knows the indictment is total bull [ bleep ]. a very stupid person named john bolton, mick mulvaney who's got nothing going, absolutely nothing. >> so, two things to note about what you just saw. first, all three people he's talking about, bill barr, john bolton, mick mull have a neen, former attorney general, national security adviser, and white house chief of staff, he hired them. second, there doesn't seem to be anything self-incriminating in this particular video, every utterance the former president makes from here on out is potentially usable as evidence against him. we'll talk about that aspect in a moment with john dean. first, cnn's paula reid with the very latest on the case and what the special counsel did today. paula, what's in this filing from the team today? >> john, today the special

counsel's office asked a judge to approve some agreed-upon rules. these have been stipulated between defense counsel and prosecutors for how to protect sensitive evidence in this case. we're not talking about classified information. we'll get to that in a second. but this is about the sensitive evidence in this investigation that will soon have to be handed over to defense lawyers as part of the discovery process. among the things that they have agreed on are some rules for the defendants, former president trump and his aide, walt nauta. they have agreed the defendants should not be able to view the evidence without their lawyers. they should not be given copies. if they take notes, those notes cannot leave the room. they have to be left with counsel and securely stored. the prosecutors say in this request that they believe if this evidence is not protected, if it's shared with the public or improperly used that it could impact not only this case but other investigations, witnesses and other people who haven't been charged. that line is raising a lot of

eyebrows. of course we know the special counsel is also investigating the events leading up to in and around january 6th, any efforts to undermine the 2020 election. and we know from our reporting, many of the witnesses who have been used in the trump documents case have also been interviewed in the january 6th case. there's a lot to still protect there. when it comes to classified information, though, they're not quite there. over the past week, the judge has told attorneys, look, you've got to get the process rolling because defense attorneys, john, they need active clearances to view that classified information that's alleged here to have been taken from the white house, over 30 documents. and they say, both attorneys for former president trump, say they've reached out to the justice department and that process underway. >> what is the latest on the former president's search for an attorney who can represent him in florida? >> well, right now he is represented by todd blanche and the former florida solicitor general chris kiez. they've been in his legal circle for a little while. they told the court they're

going to be permanent counsel. we know they're looking for at least one, maybe more, experienced florida defense attorney to help the former president do a case like this. a case like this is the case of a lifetime, but it's also a full-time job. this is a process that could take days, but it could take weeks. john, even once they get someone who's willing to take on this case, that individual then needs to get their active clearance, a process that will then take an additional few weeks. this is all part of how the timeline in this case is still an open question as to whether they'll be able to get everything done to bring this to trial far enough ahead of the 2024 election. it's just not clear. >> paula, he may need to find someone who wants to be paid up front. paula reid, thank you always for your reporting. perspective now from anthony scaramucci. he currently supports former new jersey governor chris christie in the 2024 republican primary race. also with us, cnn political analyst and "new york times"

national reporter stead herndon, and john dean, who knew when to remain silent and when to talk as richard nixon's counsel. paula reid mentioned eyebrows being raised by the order from judge -- sorry, from this special counsel asking for this evidence to remain secret, for the trump team not to leak any of this information, because of ongoing investigations. ongoing investigations, what does that tell you? >> well, it tells me it's not dissimilar from the situation that district attorney bragg asked for a similar motion at the state level. so, this is standard procedure with donald trump now because we know we cannot keep it zipped and will chatter up and share information that should not be shared. so, this is a fairly standard protective order under the federal rules of criminal procedure. not unusual.

what's interesting, john, is the judge who issued the ruling. and that was the magistrate judge, judge reinhardt, who is assigned with judge cannon but is far more seasoned in criminal trials. he, in fact, has a criminal trial background. he was in the department of justice and probably knows jack smith. >> counselor, john, you know, you say the former president can't keep it zipped. what are the types of things that he could say or would be likely to say during a political speech that could get him in trouble in a courtroom? >> well, he has had a consistent habit of making admissions against interest. in fact, the defamation case by jean carroll against him was largely based on his own admissions, both in a deposition as well as outside the deposition. he got a subsequent action filed against him because of his inability to keep a lip closed.

so, you know, who knows where he'll go? but he could give leads to others as to what the government was doing that is inevitable, be shown to him as it relates to his case. so, these are the sort of things that this protective order seeks to caution and protect. >> anthony scaramucci, great to see you here tonight. so, in this post we're talking about today, you saw the former president attack bill barr, john bolton, mick mulvaney. in a separate one, he went after someone you worked with briefly in the white house, former white house chief of staff john kelly, calling kelly, weak, ineffective, born with a very small brain. of course, trump hire d kelly. trump hired kelly and praised him up and down and everywhere. what do these attacks tell you about where trump's head is? >> general kelly's first act in the white house was to fire me. him and i went on to become very close friends.

if you ever get general kelly sitting in a chair like this, he probably saved the country over the 18-month tenure no less than five or ten times from near catastrophe based on decisions, recklessness, lack of intellectual curiosity from the president, lack of executive management skills. so, general kelly is an american hero. so, when he says nonsense like that, it's really him projecting how he feels about himself. nick is a good guy. you mentioned john bolton, also a very experienced, competent person. but all of these people are in the conundrum president trump puts you in where he wants asymmetric loyalty. he wants you to do things that are reckless that are borderline criminal if not criminal. and he wants you to defend him religiously like some of the nut cases still working for him. if you love the country and you love yourself, you have to speak out against this sort of stuff and you have to explain to the american people how wrong his actions are.

he deserves his day in court on these allegations for sure. but i want people to think about the totality of everything. governor christie said on your network a few days ago, he can't be the unluckiest person in the world, where he's involved with a sexual allegation case, a documents case, a premeditation on the j6 situation, and election interference in the state of georgia. you know ie, it's not all someb else's problem and not his problem. and i think ultimately the dam will break here, john, and the american people or the maga voters, hopefully they'll look for a different solution and not him. >> you know, except for anthony's guy, chris christie, most of the republican candidates aren't out there talking about this. and by this, i mean -- >> they're afraid of him. >> what would it take for them not to be afraid of him? it's just piling up. >> there is the obvious, they're afraid of donald trump and the media attention he can bring, the way he can sink somebody's

poll numbers with a drop of a nickname. but the thing they're afraid of is the electorate that has rallied around donald trump and has created a difficult space for them to attack him. do they see these as individual charges against donald trump, or do they see these as a continuance of a federal government that has been weaponized against conservatives? the answer they would give tow the kind of question that anthony is posing here is not that donald trump is unlucky, but that the federal government is targeting republicans and conservatives. that's the built-in answer for a lot of republican electorate voters. for them, it is very easy. i was in iowa the federal charges came down talking to republican voters, people who have been open to alternatives, people like ron desantis and others. if you're in the camp of being open for alternatives, i think this has pushed you a little further to that. if you're in the camp of folks who have supported donald trump, which remains the plurality in relationship to the other

candidates, you're digging further in because you think this is just the biggest and deepest example of the federal government targeting donald trump. >> and anthony, both of you weigh in here. >> it's not though. >> i'm just doing the political fallout. to your point, that's the insurance. you see, ultimately those people -- again, i was with mr. trump, president trump, on 71 campaign stops. those people are disenfranchised. those people feel left out of the system. we turn blue collar people who were once economically aspirational. >> what i'm trying to envision is the first one or two debates. donald trump is not there. let's say he's not at the debates. how do these other candidates -- your guy aside if he does make it to the e did bait stage. are they going to say, nothing to see here. nothing to pay attention. >> i think this is why the indictment charges being so specific and so democratic are important because it's giving people space to say, okay, even

though i think this is the federal government -- you saw nikki haley or ron desantis say, i would have been court marshalled if i had documents like this. this is unique unfitness and they're going to try to use the substance at the case while at the same time walking a thin line. the problem is, this doesn't just start with donald trump for these cases. republican versus been building in the argument about the federal government targeting their party and their voters for years and years leading up to this. so, it's very hard for them to be able to make the case now because they have not tilled that ground with their voters. their voters are actually primed to the opposite side to be able to just offend them instead of being able to pull from their support. >> that's a brilliant analysis. can i just add something really quickly. someone in that candidate base should try to become an entrepreneur and go and reach out to the disenfranchised voters. we have 140-plus million people who don't vote in the country.

create a new market and go around the donald trump situation as opposed to listening to their political consultants and pearing to the right of donald trump. >> we'll see. >> counselor, if you're still with us, i do have one more legal question here. because it's notable -- "the wall street journal" gets into this today. it's interesting -- is that the special counsel did not push four things he might have in a standard case in terms of restrictions on a defendant. he did not push for travel restrictions. he did not push for any kind of a gag order here. why do you think that jack smith and his team has decided to give donald trump some space? >> i think they decided it was appropriate, given the high office he did come from, to honor that respect of the office and the man who once held it. i think there's no question that they weren't really concerned that he would disappear, even though he has his own airplane, which is one of the number one concerns with flight and travel.

and where's he going to go? he's a very conspicuous person. he would literally have to leave the country and find sanctuary in russia or someplace where they wouldn't extradite him. so, it's very unlikely that he would violate these basic norms. >> all right. john dean, great to see you. anthony scaramucci, great to have you here. a quick programming note. on cnn prime time with kaitlan collins, ron mcdaniel on the growing primary slate and the legal troubles of the man at the top of it. "cnn primetime," that's at the top of the hour. next for us tonight, what comes next in the case and for the community after the jury convicts the tree of life mass killer on all counts. also tonight the latest from perryton, texas, who got hit so hard by a tornado overnighght. they put their names on arenena. we put ours on my lower back. soso naturally when they annound they'd be raraising their prics due to inflation, we decided to deflate our prices

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squirrel hill neighborhood tonight can take another step back toward being what it was once known for and so very proud for, an openly multicultural tolerant place, literally mr. roger's neighborhood. the man who perpetrated the country's worse ever act of anti-semitic mass murder, the tree of life synagogue, is facing a possible death sentence after a federal jury returned its verdict earlier today. let's get more from cnn's danny freeman. >> reporter: silence in the

courtroom friday morning as judge robert cofield read the charges. guilty on all counts. 22 of those charges punishable by death. the jury agreed with federal prosecutors that the man who killed 11 jewish worshippers and injured six other people targeted them specifically because they are jewish. >> i am feeling a sense of relief that after four and a half years, the world has heard again about the horrific acts on october 27, 2018. the shooter is being held accountable for those awful acts. >> reporter: throughout more than two weeks of testimony, prosecutors showed how the defendant turned a sacred house of worship into a hunting ground. body camera video and 911 calls revealed chaos and terror. jurors heard 84-year-old ber nick sirianni simons' 911 call as she held a prayer shawl on her husband's bullet wounds.

we're being attacked, i'm scared, she cried out before she was shot to death. the shooter's attorneys tried to argue the attack was motivated by immigration-related conspiracy theories, not by a hatred of jews. prosecutors called that argument absurd. >> this was an anti-semitic incident, period, end of the statement. >> reporter: community leaders in pittsburgh say friday's result was a victory, but the death penalty phase looms large. >> while we're pleased with the verdict, very pleased, we know that there is still more to come. this is only the first phase. >> it's difficult to say the emotions we feel right now. what a relief, obviously, that the jury returned a full verdict of guilty to all 63 counts. but there's also a degree of trepidation because this is just the first third of the trial. and in a sense, it was the least

complicated part. >> and danny freeman joins me now from outside the federal courthouse in downtown pittsburgh. danny, you've done a wonderful job covering this emotional case, and it is not done. what happens next? >> reporter: john, as we look ahead to this death penalty phase, one of the things we're looking to is what kind of defense will be mounted. remember, the prosecution brought 60 witnesses to the stand during this guilt phase of the trial. the defense brought zero witnesses. the difference is this time the client's attorneys, the gunman's attorneys, they're fighting to spare his life. the jury is set to return now june 26th. john? >> danny freeman, thank you very much. another community, this one in north texas, is hurting badly tonight, and three people have lost their lives. last night in the program we got first word and first images of the tornado destruction in the town of perryton. today, it all became that much clearer and that much worse. here's cnn's isabelle row salless. >> tornado just went through

town. >> reporter: severe weather cut a deadly path across parts of texas. the small town of perryton, texas, devastated by a tornado. this new drone video showing the sheer destruction. debris scattered, parts of the town levels. >> it has just devastated this area. >> reporter: at least three people died, including an 11-year-old boy. and up to 100 more were sent to the hospital when the storm hit the community. >> the tornado formed and it just dropped on us. it came out of nowhere. there was no sirens, no time to get to shelter. >> reporter: this woman says she was forced to ride out the storm in her truck near her home. >> i just laid down in my seat and turned my head toward the back of my seat. >> reporter: her home is still standing, but other buildings destroyed. another man said he's grateful his family is still alive. >> i'm just happy my brothers are alive. i mean, i know all the property and everything, accessories can

be replaced. but the life can never be replaced. >> reporter: and take a look at these photos posted on the per per perryton fire department's facebook page. the fire trucks and ambulances are still drivable. the first responders now working with federal emergency teams. as residents tried to salvage their homes and businesses. and a local high school has opened its doors to those looking for help. >> we move pretty quickly to try to make this a safe haven for people to get to here in town. the shock is still setting in. the sadness, the anger, every emotion that people can be going through, they're going through. >> and isabelle row zalless joins us now. we saw the first images of the destruction there last night. what are you seeing there on the ground now? >> reporter: hey, john, it's been a flurry of activity. i've heard from the people who

survived this tornado that it went by in a matter of seconds, but the rebuilding, the cleaning up, that's going the take some time. and this is what we're seeing, neighbors, volunteers coming out with heavy machinery, working to clean up and eventually rebuilding this community. but in terms of damage, we're hearing from the national weather service, preliminary data is pointing that this was an ef-2 tornado. and this is what it has done, especially to mobile home parks, those most vulnerable. just destroyed and left a tangled web of metal here. this is part of a roof of what used to be a body shop right over here, john. and of course the most important thing is the human toll, the loss of lives. three people have been killed, including an 11-year-old little boy by the name of matthew ramirez. john? >> what a loss. isabelle, thank you so much for being there for us. much more ahead, including author, civil rights activist, professor, and now third-party 2024 presidential candidate, dr. cornell west. why some democrats with ptsd

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u.s. presidential elections have been so close lately, a few thousand votes here, a few thousand votes there could make all the difference. some democrats fear it did, with green party candidates in 2016. they took enough votes from the democratic nominees, they say, to swing the election. so, could it happen again? just this week, dr. cornell west announced he is now running for the green party nomination. i spoke with the progressive activist, professor her tus before air time. professor west, thanks so much for joining us tonight. tell us why you are running for president. >> well, one, thank you so very much for having me on. but i'm running for president because we're in such a deep crisis, and i think it's very important in these dim and bleak times that america be reintroduced to itself as martin luther king, as dorothy day.

they did not live for nothing. when i talk about individuals i'm talking about the movements behind them. they put the focus on precious poor people, precious working people, and we now have two political parties so tied to wall street, so tied to pentagon, so tied to the wealthy, so tied to militarism, that the plight of poor and working people is being overlooked, my brother, by both parties. both parties are in the way. >> you know that there are democrats out there who the minute you jumped in the race said basically remember 2000 with ralph nader. remember 2016 with jill stein? green party candidates took votes, they say, from the democratic nominee and might very well have swung the election. >> i say the democratic party didn't learn their lesson. the lesson they should have learned was they need to speak to working people so that gore wouldn't have been able to take arkansas, take his own congressional seat.

same so with sister hillary clinton. he could not refuse to go to wisconsin, call so many working folk deplorables and so forth. where are the high quality democratic candidates who can speak to poor and working people? no, it's a party dominated by the corporate wing. big money, big donors, big militarism. look at the debt ceiling. you see what i did? brother biden expansion of military, cut back on poor people again. no, the legacy of martin king can't stand by. we've got to be focused on poor and working people, no matter what color, what gender, what sexual orientation, what region. that's why i'm going to trump country and i'm going to tell my brothers and sisters who are disproportionately vanilla, don't follow a male fascist pied piper. follow a lead r, a campaign that's concerned about you, that cares about you. when i call trump that name, i'm not saying that out of hatred. i don't hate brother trump. i hate gangster activity. i hate neofascist policies.

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his family, but the very words that he says are very much a critique and indictment of his eight years that tafs smily and i went around the country talking about the poverty tour. they didn't mention poverty. we talked about mass incarceration. when are you going to come to terms with this for example, my dear brother, bennett down in mississippi right now? neither party has been able to speak to their plight. so, barack obama's words, if you follow through, he said, walk the walk, talk the talk. all right, then, brother, did obama walk the walk and talk the talk on issues of poverty, on issues of mass incarceration, on issues of trade unions, living wage, medicare for all, on drones dropped on innocent people, my dear barack, listen closely to your words and then look in the mirror. >> professor cornell west, thank you so much for being with us

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since mid-april, more than 2 million people have fled the conflict in sudan, as the country humanitarian crisis gets worse. with two rival military factions fighting for control of the country, sudanese rights organizations say atrocities are being committed in darfur. and cnn has uncovered evidence that the private mercenary mission group wagner is complicit with the violence. uncovered the russian supply lines prolonging the conflict between sudan's rapid support forces and armed forces proper. the rsf denies involvement in any mass rape, perpetrated by the rsf, including one which was captured on video. we feel it is important in the face of the rsf's repeated denials to broadcast part of that video. here is the report. we do want to warn you, some of

the video you are about to see is graphic and disturbing. >> reporter: the fighting on the streets of sudan is relentless. ceasefire after ceasefire has not held. forces previously accused of genocide returning to a well-worn playbook. terrorize, expel, and ethnically lenses. the paramilitary rapid support forces, rsf, are currently engaged in a fight for dominance. years before that rivalry spilled blood in sudan's streets, they were implicated in atrocities in darfur. now once again darfur to the west of the country is stalked by the specter of genocide. the damage wrought by these forces so extensive you can see it from satellite image.

this is west darfur, hundreds killed, whole districted raised to the ground. and it's not only -- that is burning. this is anner, and this is -- on the ground, it looks like this, scenes sadly familiar in darfur. 20 years ago, the region descended into genocide. the same rsf leadership in place as -- killed, occupied, and raped. now once again, women's bodies are part of the field of war. we must warn you, what you're about to see is shocking. this video filmed at great personal risk, will show a girl believed to be just 15 years old, being raped. the rsf have threatened rape survivors and denied their

testimonies, so we feel it necessary to broadcast a small portion of this horrific assault. you see here a man in light colored fatigues matching those worn by the rsf. it's too awful to show in full, but when the phone pans, you see what he's guarding, a man wearing light colored fatigues forcing himself onto the prone girl. cnn verified and geolocated the area where this happened. we're not revealing the act location in khartoum to protect our sources and the young girl. this is not an isolated incident. we received and reviewed dozens of cases where women say they were raped by rsf soldiers. identifying them by their light colored fatigues and insignia on their right soldiers. so, who is complicit in this pain? the rsf's key ally, the

notorious mercenary russian group, wagner, has been sustaining their fight and providing the impetus to slaughter innocent people. we're going to show you how. this is a 76 cargo plane operated by wagner sitting at an air base. a previous cnn investigation exposed how this russian cargo plane was providing the rsf with deadly arms via wagner controlled bases in libya. this person starts just days before the war begins in sudan, libya, syria, and back. and it picks up pace. what's interesting here is the new focus on the city where it goes next, the capital of the central african republic. after our exposure of the libya route, a route directly from the central african republic into darfur became crucial for the rsf. eyewitnesses at key transit

points and intelligence active in the region tell cnn arms and supply from this elusion using the truck captured here. first to a wagner base -- to darfur. wagner putting their numb on the scales here to secure access to sudan's resources through darfur, creating chaos and terror, helping tip the balance of power in their war in ukraine, whatever the cost. >> and nsimba joins us now. this is horrifying and infuriating. is there anything that outside groups like the united nations or international criminal court could be doing to help victims like the girl we saw in your report? >> reporter: there doesn't seem to be much that they are doing. there is a lot they could be doing. but it's really indicative of the broader failure of international will and

international consensus that we're now two months into the fighting in sudan. the supply lines sustaining it from wagner, the russian mercenary group, continue to arrive. and the atrocities only seem to escalate. as you saw in our investigation there, these are many of the same forces previously implicated. >> reporter: the wagner group has been designated as a trans national criminal organization by the united states, so what are the u.s. and it's allies do to stem the flow of weapons into sudan. >> reporter: i think that's where sudan really is -- if you widen the aperture from sudan, you see all the lost opportunities the u.s. and the u.s. allies had. it was clear early on into the war in ukraine that the sanctions mechanism was going by sudan. we did an investigation around this time last year on the way the sudanese goal was sustaining the war in ukraine. and that opportunity to stop that, to stop wagner, and that

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this sunday, we honor the dads and any father figures in our lives. i'm lucky enough to have a father who is almost definitely watching me on tv tonight. hey, jerry. i also have two sons, who i'm pretty sure never watch. and then there's cnn senior data reporter, harry enten, who joins me now. great to have you here, my friend. what are the numbers saying about this day? >> you know, there was a great question that cbs news asked last decade which is, if you were forced to choose which is

more important to you, mother's day or father's day, and i'm sorry to say, john -- i'm sorry to say, 72% chose mother's day. just 13% chose father's day. and that even got beaten out by, i couldn't choose, which came in at 14%. but i'm sure your sons think of you as an important part of their lives. >> i'm not even in the race. >> you're not even close, man. you're not even close. you're like the '62 mets. >> so, for people who do celebrate, what do they do? what are popular things to do or buy on this day? >> so, you know, one of the popular things to buy, let's keep it simple. number one, buy a greeting card. that's tops, all right? clothing comes in at number two. but perhaps my personal favorite is just a meal or an outing. you know, i love food. that's something i would enjoy very much if i was a father. but let me tell you what to stay away from, okay? what do fathers definitely don't

want? do not get them a tie, okay? you have enough ties already. your tie looks fantastic. just 5% of fathers say that the thing they want most is a tie. and i don't think you need any more ties. >> i don't think you've worn some of my ties. it was my pants. >> that's right. i remember that. >> you actually went into my office and took my pants that day. >> right. >> this is a day where we all talk about tv dads. you have some favorites? >> yes. so, america has some favorites. i think the father on "happy days" is one of those fathers. "father knows best." how about "leave it to beaver." that's another one of america's favorite. mine, carl winslow. how about you? >> mine is up there right now. it's mike brady from "brady bunch" but it's mike brady with the perm. that mike brady is groovy. >> and i want to be clear, i heard you. i texted you earlier today. you said the perm, and i made

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research into psychedelics is advancing in new, many people think, exciting ways. magic mushrooms are being studied for therapeutic effects for depression, anxiety, and substance use. oregon became the first state to legalize magic mushrooms for therapeutic use. some are returning to wellness retreats. for this weekend's "the whole story," cnn's david culver went on a mind-altering journey to oregon and jamaica to see what happens at these get aways. here's a preview. >> reporter: embarking on a psychedelic trip requires a willingness to be as avulnerablo hold nothing back.

>> this wasn't easy, i imagine, for any of you to say, yeah, let me jump in. you're here fair reason. >> reporter: documenting it with cameras for a story to be shared with the world? that suggests a mere total surrender to the unknown. >> let go. let go of it and just go with the flow. >> reporter: the experiences you're about to witness, they're intimate. they're exhilarating. and exhausting. after taking a dose of sill sooifen, the psychoactive compound in magic mushrooms, you wait. >> sal sooifen brings you what you need, not what you want. >> and david culver is with me now. so, david, you went to a -- wellness center in jamaica as a reporter but also as a participant. >> right. >> why? >> so, this is not a when or an

if so much, but it's already happening, right? it's coming out in oregon. so, i wanted to see what exactly plays out with this. and what's happening in jamaica, where it's legal to grow and consume, is coming in some fashion to oregon in the next few weeks or months. so, it is rolling out as we speak. but for the folks we were going down there with, it's so personal, john. it's an intimate, personal journey for them. for them to feel comfortable to divulge, they said, we don't want someone who's just going to be an outsider looking in. if you're with us, you're with us. >> i get that. if you're going to be here, get involved. you've been here all day. the first question everyone has been asking you is, what did it feel like? >> we took two doses, and basically they call them ceremonies. and that's over the course of five days. the first one, frankly, i didn't feel anything. i felt just exhausted. i didn't have any of the visual distortions you hear about,

nothing profound. the second one took me places. that was a trip. and it put me in a space of -- and this sounds very out there when i describe it -- but feeling a lot of energy from folks who have passed, loved ones who -- you know, i was in china for two and a half years, not able to leave with all the covid restrictions. so, i lost loved ones in the midst of that. a lot of folks lost covid and couldn't really properly mourn. that came to me in a very unexpected way. more than that, it was the folks we were with who had these incredible transformations that i'm excited to share this sunday. >> david culver, you're a terrific reporter. you've been to a lot of places. thank you so much. can't wait to see the report sunday night. t whole story with anderson cooper. the news continues here on earth with kaitlan collins and "cnn primetime." "cnn primetime." kaitlan? -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening.

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