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for the rest of their lives, if you cheat here if you do a half wrap that means that in everything you do in life you do things halfway, you did for reps from the beginning to the end all the way down, for reps, you are conscientious of doing for reps in the right way, that's as an everything in life you will do everything 100%. >> after getting a good look at myself i think i will be spending more time in the gym, and less time at the dinner table. thank you for watching, you can catch my full interviews with arnold schwarzenegger and andy garcia anytime you want on max, and please join us here on cnn every friday night to find out who is talking next. >> he has the right to remain silence, he is also donald trump. john berman here in for anderson, today on three 60 the former presidents eruption over the documents case and the
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special counsel's latest move aimed at keeping the defense from made the king potential evidence public. also tonight a live report from the texas panhandle how people are coping in the wake of a devastating tornado. plus, it's not just ukraine, you're reporting on russia's notorious wagner mercenaries spreading brutality to horrific warfare elsewhere. first up tonight the trump documents case in the new sign of how serious special counsel jack smith is about keeping the defense and the defendant rained in. also reminder today, this defendant has no desire to be reigned in. >> virtually everyone is saying that the fake indictment is about election interference and should not have been brought, except bill barr a disgruntled former employee, and very weak person, he knows the indictment is total [bleep], a stupid person named john bolton, mick mulvaney who has nothing going
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for him, absolutely nothing. >> two things to note about what you saw, first, all three people he is talking about bill barr john bolton and mick mulvaney, former attorney general, national security adviser an acting white house chief of staff, he hired them. second, although there doesn't seem to be anything specifically self incriminating in this particular video, every utterance the former presidents makes from here on out is potentially usable as evidence against him. we will talk about that aspect in a moment with former nixon white house counsel john teen. for cnn's paula reid with the very latest on the case and what the special counsel did today, paula, what is in this filing from the team today? >> well, john today the special counsel's office asked a judge to approve some agreed upon rules, they've been stipulated between defense council and prosecutors on how to protect sensitive evidence in this case. we're not talking about classified, information we will get to that in a second but this is above the sensitive evidence in this investigation
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that will soon have to be handed over to defense lawyers as part of the discovery process. now, among the things that they have agreed on or some rules for the defendants former president trump and his aide walt nauta, they have agreed that the defendant shouldn't be able to view the evidence without their lawyers they should not be given copies. if they take notes those notes cannot leave the room, they have to be left with council and securely stored. now, the prosecutor also say in this request that they believe that if this evidence is not protected, if it is shared with the public or improperly used, that it could impact not only this case, but other investigations witnesses and other people who haven't been charged. that line is raising eyebrows brutal course special counsel is also investigating the events leading up in and around january six, any efforts to undermine the 2020 election. we know from reporting many of the witnesses who were used in the trump's documents case were interviewed in the january six case, there is still to protect their.
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when it comes to classified information, though, they are not quite there. over the past week it's the judge has told attorneys local you have to get the pluses rolling because defense attorney, john, they need active clearance to view that classified information that is alleged here to have been taken from the white house over 30 documents, they say, both attorneys, for former president trump, say they've reached out to the justice department and the process is underway. >> what is the latest on the former presidents search for an attorney who can represent him in florida? >> right now he's represented by todd blanche in the -- chris kise, they've been his legal circle for while they told the court that they would be permanent council, we know they are still looking for at least one, maybe more, experience florida defense attorney to help the former president do this case. a case like this is a case of a lifetime, but it is also full-time job. i spoke with some folks close to the president they are still talking to the people this is a process that could take days but it could take weeks, john, even once they get someone who
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is willing to take on this case that individual needs to get their act of clearance or process that will then take an additional few weeks this is all part of how the timeline in this case is still an open question as to whether they will be able to get everything done to bring this to trial far enough ahead of the 2024 election. it's not clear. >> and you tell me last night he may need to find someone who will be paid upfront. paula reid, thank you always for your reporting. perspective from anthony scaramucci who served as communications director in the previous administration, he currently supports former new jersey chris christie. also with us political analyst and new york time -- in cnn contributor john dean who knew went to remain silent and went to talk -- during watergate. i do want to start with you paula reid mentioned eyebrows being raised by this order from judge --
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sorry, from the special counsel asking for this evidence to remain secret for the trump team not to leak any of this information because of ongoing investigations. ongoing investigations, what does that tell you? >> well it tells me it is not dissimilar from the situation that district attorney bragg asked for similar motion at the state level. so, this is standard procedure with donald trump now because we know that he cannot keep it zipped and wall chatter up and shared information that should not be shared, this is a very standard protective order under the federal rules of criminal procedure not unusual, but it's interesting, john, the judge who issued the ruling, that was the magistrate judge judge reinhard who is assigned to judge cannon, but it's far more seasoned in criminal trials. he in fact has a criminal trial background he was in the
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department of justice and probably knows jack smith. >> counselor, john, you know the former president can't keep it zipped, what are the types of things that he could say or be likely to say during the political speech that could get him in trouble in a courtroom? >> well, he has had a consistent habit of making admissions against interest in fact the defamation case by jean carroll against him was largely based on his own admissions, both in a deposition as well as outside the deposition, he got a subsequent action filed against him because of his inability to keep it closed. so who knows where he will go, but he could give leads to others asked what the government was doing, it's unaffordable be shown to him as it relates to his case, so these are the types of things that the protective order seeks to caution and protect.
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>> anthony scaramucci, great to see you here tonight. so, in we're talking about today you saw the former president attacked bill barr, john bolton nick mulvaney in separate one he went after someone you worked with briefly former white house chief of staff john kelly calling kelly weak and ineffective, born with a very small brain. of course, trump hired kelly. trump hired kelly, praised him up and down everywhere, what do these attacks tell you about where trump's head is? >> general kelly's first act in the white house was to fire me, so he and i went on to become close friends, and if you ever get general kelly sitting ensure like this he would save the country over the 18 months, no less than five times from near catastrophe based on decisions, recklessness, lack of intellectual curiosity from the president, lack of executive management skills. so general kelly is an american
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hero, when he says nonsense like that it is him projecting how he feels about himself. so mick is a good guy, you mentioned john bolton, very experienced competent person. but all of these people are in the conundrum that trump put you in where he wants asymmetrical loyalty, he wants to be reckless and do things that are borderline criminal if not over the edge of criminal, if he wants you to sit there and defend him religiously like some of the net cases that are still working for him. so if you love the country and you love yourself, you have to speak out against this sort of stuff and you have to explain to the american people how wrong his actions are. now, he does he deserves his day in court on these allegations for sure, but i want people to think about the totality of everything. governor christie said on your network of you days ago, he can't be the unluckiest person in the world where he is involved with a sexual allegation case, a documents case, a premeditation on the j
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6th situation and election interference in the state of georgia, you know it's not just all someone else's problem and not his problem, ultimately, the dam will break here, john, and the american people or the maga voters, hopefully they will look for a different solution and not him. >> you know except for anthony's guy chris christie, most of the republican candidates aren't out there talking about this, and by this i mean -- >> they are afraid of him. >> well, what would it take for them not to be afraid of him? because it is just piling up. >> there is the obvious, they are afraid of donald trump and the media attention he can bring and the way he can sink the poll numbers with a drop of a statement or nickname, the real thing they are afraid of his the electorate that has rallied around donald trump and has created a difficult space for candidates to be able to attack him even though on this very obvious thing, the question is for republican voters, do they see these as individual charges against donald trump or do they see
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these as a continuance of a federal government that has been weaponized against conservatives. the answer that they will give you to the kind of question that anthony supposing is not the donald trump is unlucky but that the federal government itself is targeting republicans and conservatives, that is the built-in answer for a lot of republican electorate voters and so for them, it is very easy, i was just in iowa this week i wasn't i am with the to federal charges came down. talking to republican voters, people who had been open to alternatives people like ron desantis and others, if you're in the camp looking for alternatives this has pushed to further. some republicans very are, but if you are in the camp of folks that have supported donald trump which remains a plurality and relationship to the other candidates who are digging further in because you think that this is just the biggest and deepest example of the federal government is targeting donald trump. >> -- entering the political fallout, to your point -- >> that is the entrenchment, ultimately those people and again i was with mr. trump
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presidential pond 71 campaign stops, those people are disenfranchised, those people feel left out of the system, we turned blue collar people who were once economically aspirational, the home i grew up in, into economic desperation, he is the appetite for the anger, he can do anything. >> what i'm trying to envision is the first one or two debates, he is not there, let's say he's not there, how do these other candidates, again your guy aside if he does make it to the debate stage, are they just going to little questions about donald trump say nothing to see here, we're not paying attention? >> i think that's why the indictment charges being so specific and dramatic are actually really important because it has given people space to say even though this is a federal government you saw nikki haley, ron desantis i would've been court marshaled if i handle documents like this, but this is a -- an fitness and they will try to use the substance of the case at the same time walking a pretty thin line the problem is, this doesn't start with donald
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trump in these cases republicans have been building in the argument about the federal garb government targeting their voters for years, leading up to this and so it is very hard for them to be able to make the case now because they have not tilt that ground with the voters, the voters are actually primed on the opposite side to be able to offend them instead of being able to really pull from their support. >> brilliant analysis, i'm gonna add something quickly. someone in the canada bay should try to become an entrepreneur and go and reach out to the disenfranchise voter we have 140 plus people who don't vote in the country, many of those were formally registered as republicans and create a new markets and go around the donald trump situation, as opposed to listening to the political consultants in parroting to the right of donald trump the way around desantis has been doing. >> councillor, if you're still with us i do have one more legal question, it is notable in the wall street journal, it's really interesting, the special counsel did not push
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for things that he might have, in a standard case in terms of restrictions on a defendant they did not push for travel restrictions he did not push for any kind of a gag order here, why do you think that jacks mitt and his team have decided to give donald trump some space? >> i think they decided it was appropriate given the high office he came from, to honor that respect to the office and the man who once held it, i think there is no question that they want really concerned that he would disappear even though he has his own airplane which is one of the number one concerns with flight, travel, at worse where she going to go? he's a conspicuous person, he would have to leave the country and find sanctuary in russia or someplace where they wouldn't extradite him. so it is unlikely that he would violate these basic norms. >> all right john dean, great
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tonight can finally take another step back from what it was once known for. and so very proud of. and openly multi cup terrell tolerant gentle place. literally mr. rogers neighborhood and the beating heart of the city's jewish community. that is because tonight, the man who perpetrated the worst ever active antisemitic mass murder, four and a half years ago the tree of life synagogue is now facing a possible death sentence. after a federal jury returned its verdict earlier today. let's get more now from cnn's, danny friedman. >> silence in the courtroom, friday morning. as judge robert coalville read the verdicts. 63 federal charges, guilty on all counts. 22 of these charges, punishable by death. the jury agreed with federal prosecutors that the man who killed 11 jewish worshippers, and injured six other people into october 2018, targeted them specifically because they
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were jewish. >> i am feeling a sense of relief, that after four and a half years, the world has heard again about the horrific acts on october 27th, 2018. and the shooter is being held accountable for those awful acts. >> throughout more than two grueling weeks of testimony, prosecutors showed how the -- into a hunting ground. >> body camera video and 9-1-1 calls revealed chaos and terror. jurors heard 84 year old, bernice symonds 9-1-1 call. as she held a prayer shawl to her husband's bullet wounds. we are being attacked. i'm scared to death, she cried out. before she was shot and killed while hiding in a pew. the defense did not dispute their client killed the 11 worshippers. but the shooter's attorneys tried to argue the attack was motivated by immigration related conspiracy theories, not by a hatred of jews. prosecutors called that argument observed.
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>> this was an antisemitic incident, period. and of the statement. >> community leaders in pittsburgh say friday's result was a victory. but the death penalty phase looms large. >> while we are pleased with the verdict, very pleased, we know that there is still more to come. this is only the first days. >> it is difficult to say the emotions we feel right now. one of relief, obviously. that the jury returned a full verdict of guilty to all 63 counts. but there's also a degree of trepidation. because this is just the first third of the trial. and in a sense, it was the least complicated part. >> when jenny friedman joins us now from outside the federal courthouse in downtown pittsburgh. danny, you've got a wonderful job covering this very emotional case. it is not done. what up in the next? >> john, as you look ahead to this death penalty phase, one of the things we are looking to is what kind of defense will be
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mounted. remember, the prosecution brought 60 witnesses to the stand during this guilt phase of the trial. the defense brought zero to the defense. this time, the client's attorneys, the gunman's attorneys are fighting to spare his life. the jury is set to return now, june 26th. john? >> danny friedman, thank you very much. another community, this one in north texas, is hurting badly tonight. three people have lost their lives. last night of the program, we got first word and the first images of the tornado destruction in the town of perryton. today, it all became that much clearer and that much worse. here's cnn's isabel rosales. >> tornado just went through town. >> severe weather, caught a deadly path across parts of texas. the small town of perryton, texas. devastated by a tornado. this new drone video showing the sheer destruction. debris scattered, parts of the town leveled. >> devastated this area.
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>> at least three people died. including an 11 year old boy. up to 100 more were sent to the hospital when the storm hit the texas panhandle community. >> the tornado formed, and it just dropped on us. it came out of nowhere. there was no sirens. our time to get to a shelter. >> jimmy james showed she was forced to ride out the storm in her truck near her home. >> i just lay down in my seat. and turned my head towards the back of my seat. >> her home is still standing. but other buildings, destroyed. another man said he is just grateful his family is still alive. >> i'm just happy my brothers are alive. i know all the property and everything, this can be replaced. but a life, can never be replaced. >> take a look at these photos, posted on the perryton fire departments page. the department said it took a direct hit. but the fire trucks and ambulances are still drivable. the first responders, now working with federal emergency
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teams. as residents trying to salvage their homes and businesses. a local high school has opened its doors to those looking for help. >> we moved pretty quickly to try to make this a safe haven for people to get to here in town. the shock is still sitting in, the sadness. the anger. every emotion that people would be going through. they are going through. >> isabelle rossolis drawings us from perry tonight. isabelle, it was last night at this time we saw the first images of the destruction there. what are you seeing on the ground now? >> hey john, it's been a flurry of activity. i've heard from the people who survived this tornado, that it went by in a matter of seconds. but the rebuilding, the cleaning up, that is going to take some time. this is what we are seeing. neighbors, volunteers, coming out with heavy machinery. working to clean up, and eventually rebuilding this community. but in terms of damage, we are hearing from the national weather service, preliminary
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data is pointing that this was an ef2 tornado. this is what it has done. especially to mobile home parks. those most vulnerable. just destroyed and left a tangled web of metal here. this is part of the roof of what used to be a body shop, right over here, john. and of course the most important thing is the human toll. the loss of lives. three people have been killed, including an 11-year-old little boy, by the name of matthew ramirez. john? >> what a loss. isabelle roe's alex, thank you so much for being there for us. much more ahead, including author, civil rights act activist, professor, and now third-party 2024 presidential candidate but doctor cornell west. why senate democrats with ptsd from 2016 and 2000, where he could sink joe biden.
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>> u.s. presidential elections have been so close lately, a few thousand votes here. a few thousand votes there could also make all the difference. some democrats fear it did, with green party candidates in 2000 2016. they took enough votes from the democratic nominees. they say. to swing the election.
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so could it happen again? just this week, dr. cornel west, announced he is now running for the green party nomination. i spoke with the progressive activist, professor emeritus at princeton university, and professor of philosophy at the union theological seminary before airtime. >> professor west, thanks so much for joining us. tell us why you are running for president? >> one, thank you so very much for having me on. but i'm running for president because we are in such a deep crisis. i think it's very important in these bleak times that america be reintroduced to the best of itself. as martin king, that's rachelle, as i eat, as grossly boggs, as dorothy de. they did not live for nothing. and when i talk about individuals, i'm talking about the movement behind them. they put the focus on precious poor people. precious working people. we now have two political parties, so tied to wall street, so tied to pentagon, so tied to the wealthy. so tied to militarism. that the plight of poor working
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people, being overlooked, my brother. by both parties. both parties are in the way. we've got a corporate do apple e that needs to go. >> you know that there are democrats apple there who the minute you jumped in the race said remember 2000 with ralph nature? remember 2016 with jill stein? green party candidates took votes, they say, that would've gone to the democratic nominee. and might very well have swung the election. what do you say to that? >> i say, the democratic party didn't learn their lesson. the lesson they should have learned was they need to speak to working people, so that gore would have been able to take arkansas. take his own congressional seat. similarly so with sister hillary clinton. she could not refuse to go -- called so many we working for deplorables and so forth. where are the high quality democratic candidates who can spoke to poor working class people. it's a corporation -- big money, big donors, big militarism. look at the debt ceiling. you see, my dear brother biden,
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expansion and military cut back on poor people. no, the legacy of martin king can't stand by. we've got to be focused on working people, no matter what color, no better what gender, no matter what sexual orientation, no matter what region. that's why i'm going straight to trump country. i'm going to tell so many of my brothers and sisters who are disproportionately vanilla, don't follow a male fascist pied piper. follow a leader. a campaign that is concerned about you, that cares about you. when i called trump that name, you know i'm not saying that out of hatred. i don't hate brother trump. i hate gangster activity. i hate neo-fascist policies. i don't hate biden. as a human being. i hate neoliberal policies that don't focus on power and will it -- working people, and militarism abroad. that missed treat folk, wherever they are. it could be on the west bank. they could be in latin america. they could be in the caribbean. they have a dignity, just like you, and just like me, my dear
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brother. >> there was a back and forth over the last several days between former president obama, and republican presidential candidate senator, tim scott. set obama said in a podcast that there should be a, quote, honest accounting of our past and promise, unquote, when americans talk about race. senator scott today responded in part, quote, democrats deny our progress to protect their power. what are your thoughts on that? >> no, brother tim scott, he's sincere in his wrong views. that is to say, he is a conservative. he's got his own plans of opportunity. stones and what have you. at the same time, barack obama, i love him as family. but he's the very word that he says, is very much a crew tuque. and indictment of his 80 years. -- we went around the country, talking about the poverty to. they didn't mention the word poverty. now he's talking about poverty. we talk about racial inequality. when is it gonna talk about
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racial impersonation? -- our dear brothers bennett, down in mississippi right now. neither party has been able to speak to their plight. so barack obama's words, if you follow through, he said walk the walk, talk the talk. did our dear brother barack obama walked the walk and talk the talk on issues of poverty, on issues of mass incarceration, on issues of trade union being struck. on the living wage, on medicare, on drones dropped on innocent people? my dear barack. listen closely to your words. then look in the mirror. >> professor, cornel west, thank you so much for being with us tonight. always interesting to talk to you. >> i salute you my brother, god bless you. >> up next, a cnn exclusive investigation on the conflict in sudan. sudanese rights organizations say atrocities, horrible atrocities, are being committed. cnn uncovered reports of a
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>> since mid april, more than 2
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million people have fled the conflict in sudan, as the country's humanitarian conflict gets worse. with two rival military factions fighting for control of the country. sudanese rights organizations say atrocities are being committed in jar for, and cnn has uncovered evidence that the private russian airy mercenary group wagner, is complicit in the violence. in a exclusive cnn -- uncovered the russian supply lines prolonging the conflict between rsf, sudan's rapid support forces, and sudan's armed forces proper. the rsf denies links to wagner and any involvement in mass rape, as part of this investigation, cnn verified and corroborated incidents of rape, perpetrated by the rsf. including one, which was captured on video. we feel it is important, in the face of the rsf's repeated denials, to broadcast part of that video. here is namur's report. we do want to warn you, some of the video you're about to see is graphic and disturbing.
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>> the fighting on the streets of sudan's relentless. cease-fire, after cease-fire has not helped. forces previously accused of genocide, returning to a well worn playbook. terrorize, expel, and ethnically cleanse. the paramilitary rapid support forces, rsf, are currently engaged in a fight for dominance with sudan's army. but years before that rivalry spilled blood in sudan's straits, there were implicated in atrocities in -- now once again, to the west of the country, is stopped by the specter of genocide. the damage brought by these forces is so extensive, you can see it from satellite images. this is elgin era. west africa. hundreds killed whole districts
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raised to the ground. and it's not only algae narrowed that is burning. this is and/or. and this, could do me. on the ground, it looks like this. the scenes, sadly familiar in darfur. 20 years ago, the region descended into genocide. the same rsf leadership in place as their man, killed, occupied, and raped. now, once again, women's bodies are part of the field of war. we must warn you what you are about to see, is shocking. this video filmed at great personal risk, we'll show a girl, believed to be just 15 years old, being raped. the rsf have threatened rape survivors, and it denied their testimonies. so we feel it necessary to
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broadcast a small portion of this horrific assault. you see here, a man in light colored -- matching those worn by the rsf. it's too awful to show in full, but when they phone pans, you see what he's guarding. a man wearing light colored fatigues, forcing himself on to the prone girl. cnn verified and geolocated the area where this happened. we are not revealing the exact location in khartoum, to protect our sources and the young girls. this is not an isolated incident. we received, and reviewed, dozens of cases where women say they were raped by rsf soldiers. identifying them by their light colored fatigues, and the insignia on their right shoulders. so, who is complicit in this pain? the rsf key ally, the notorious russian or russian mercenary group, wagner, has been sustaining their fight and
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providing the impetus to slaughter innocent people by supplying arms. we are going to show you. this is an illusion 76 cargo plane operated by wagner sitting at olivia are airways. a previous cnn investigation revealed how this russian cargo plane was providing the rsf with deadly arms from a russian naval base in let's syria. wagner controlled basis in -- this person start just days before the war begins in sudan. libya, syria, and back. and it picks up eight. what is interesting here, is the new focus on the city where it goes next. -- the capital of the central african republic. after our exposure of the libya route, era directly from the central afghan republican to darfur, became crucial for the rsf. eyewitnesses at key transit points and intelligence active in the region told cnn, arms
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and supplies from this aleutian transported overland using the truck captured here and others like it. first to a wagner base in -- then into south darfur, two an rsf base in darfur. faulkner, putting their thumb on the scales. here -- through darfur, creating caress and terror. helping tip the balance of power in their war in ukraine. whatever the cost. >> nima elbagir joins us now. nima, this is a horrifying and infuriating. is there anything that outside groups like the united nations or international criminal court could be doing to help victims like the girl we saw in your report? >> there doesn't seem to be much that they are doing. there is a lot they could be doing it's really indicative of the broader failure of the international will, and international consensus. that now over two months into
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the fighting in sudan, the supply lines sustaining it from wagner. the russian mercenary group, continues to arrive. and the atrocities only seem to escalate. as you saw in our investigation, these are many of the same forces previously implicated. >> the wagner group has been designated as a transnational criminal organization by the -- one of the u.s. and its allies doing to try to stem the slew of weapons into sudan? >> i think that's where sudan is really -- if you are in the aperture from sudan, you can see that all the lost of partoun it is at the u.s., and the u.s. his allies had. it was very clear, very early on. into the war in ukraine. that the sanctions evasion mechanism was going by sudan. in fact, we did an investigation this time last year on the way that sudan needs gold was sustaining the war in ukraine. the opportunity to stop that, to stop wagner and their foot holdings in sudan, was missed time and time again. >> nima elbagir, extraordinary
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report on the border of sudan tonight, you and your team, please stay safe. >> thank you, john. >> next, a truly welcome and badly needed change of pace. father's day, by the numbers, according to the man who has everything, our number cruncher, harry 80.
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>> this sunday, we honor the dads and any father figures in our lives. i'm lucky enough to have a father who is almost definitely watching me on tv tonight. hey jerry. i also have two sons, who i'm pretty sure never watch. then their cnn senior data reporter, harry anton, who
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i'm sorry to say, john, i am sorry to say, 72% chose mother's day over father's day. that's probably because of the national holiday. father's day is not a national holiday. i'm sure that your sons think of you though, is a very big important part of their lives. >> you're not even close. you're like the 62 mets. >> so, for people who do celebrate, what do they do? what are popular things to do or by on this day? >> one of the paperless things to buy, number one, by a greeting card. that is tops. closing comes in, number two, but perhaps my personal favorite, it's just a meal or an outing. i love food, that is something i would enjoy. but let me tell you what to stay away from. what do father's definitely -- what do they not want.
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do not get them a tie. you have enough ties, it looks fantastic, just 5% of fathers say the thing they want most is a tie, and i don't think you need any more. scenic i think you've warranted them. we will know with my pants. >> you actually went in my office and pants. this is a day where we often talk about tv dads, do you have some favorites? >> america has some favorites. the father on happy days is one of those favorites, fathers knows best, how about leave it to beaver. that's another one of america's favorites. carl winslow. how about you exiting? >> mike brady from the brady bunch but is very specific right brady. it's mike brady with the perm. i like the groovy swoopy mike brady. >> i text you early, you said of the perm was we got a picture of mr. brady with that. >> happy father's day to you.
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research into second dalia is advancing and many people think exciting ways. psilocybin what you may know as magic mushrooms are being studied for therapeutic effects for conditions including depression and anxiety and absence of use, and oregon became the first state to legalize magic mushrooms in countries where it is always legal, they are turning to psilocybin wellness retreats. the entire story, david culver went on a mind altering journey to oregon and jamaica to see what happened in these getaways. here is a preview. >> reporter: requires a willingness to be vulnerable. to hold nothing back. >> this was not easy.
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i imagine for any of you to say let me jump into this bottomless pit. >> documenting it with cameras for a story to be shared with the world. >> reporter: that suggests a near-total surrender to be unknown. >> let go with it, and just go with the flow. >> reporter: the experiences you are about to witness are intimate. they are exhilarating and they are exhausting. after taking a dose of magic mushrooms the psychoactive compound in my terms you wait. >> psilocybin brings you what you need. not what you want. >> david culver is with me now. david, you went to a psilocybin wellness center in jamaica as a reporter, but also as a participant. wife. >> reporter: this is not a when or and if so much, by my
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expression was timeless. i wanted to see what exactly plays out with this and what's happening in jamaica where it legal to grow and consume is coming in some fashion to oregon in the next few weeks. it's rolling out as we speak for folks who we are going down there with, this is very personal. it's a private journey for them. the folks who run the retreat and the other participants said we do not want somebody who is an outsider looking in. if you are with us you are with us. that's why i went with them. >> if you are going to be here, get involved. you then here all day. >> the first question everybody has been asking you, what did it feel like? >> we took two doses each, and they called them ceremonies. over the course of five days. the first one, i felt nothing but exhaustion, i had no visual distortion to hear about, nothing profound. the second one lasted me to the
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cosmos. and, it put me into his place and this sounds very out there, when i describe it, i feel like i've had a lot of energy from folks who have lasted, folks who are in china for the last few years, not able to leave with all of the covid restrictions. a lot of folks lost people with covid in properly mourned. that came to me in an unexpected way. more than that it was the folks that we were with that had these tribal transformations that excited to really share the sunday. >> thank you so much, david. this place, i think, you one for you >> reporter: you bet. >> can't wait to see the reports. the news continues, here, on earth, with caitlin connors and cnn prime time. >> ♪ ♪