and this sounds very out there, when i describe it, i feel like i've had a lot of energy from folks who have lasted, folks who are in china for the last few years, not able to leave with all of the covid restrictions. a lot of folks lost people with covid in properly mourned. that came to me in an unexpected way. more than that it was the folks that we were with that had these tribal transformations that excited to really share the sunday. >> thank you so much, david. this place, i think, you one for you >> reporter: you bet. >> can't wait to see the reports. the news continues, here, on earth, with caitlin connors and cnn prime time. >> ♪ ♪

>> tonight, former president donald trump is lashing out against figures that he put in the highest levels of his administration including one who says that he is toast if even half of what is the latest indictment proves to be true. >> i was doing it because he hates trump, i fired him. very simple. he is the davies total will ship. i watch them sitting there and pontificating, dated other writers that are almost there. such as the very stupid person named jumbled. mick mulvaney, who has nothing going for him. absolutely nothing. i can have people like that. >> reporter: bill barr was his attorney general. john bolton was his national security advisor and mick mulvaney was his acting chief of staff .

so argue the 24 rivals. another new entry into the last 24 hours bringing the gop field that you can see here to a dozen and there are fewer than a dozen weeks trying to cram all of this people potentially are debate stage. the woman in charge of all of that here this evening, gop chair, donna mcdaniels interested thank you so much for being here. when you look at the miami mayor, jumping the race, is there a point in your view where the field gets to be too crowded. >> it's up to the voters to decide that. we have criteria that candidates are going to have to score or 1% and three national polls. you need 40,000 small dollar donations. and the voters will know the field. but, we do not determine the field, anybody can go in. the voters will decide who make it to the very end. >> reporter: how much harder is it going to be to go on the second debate stage, is that going to change? >> the debate committee will meet, we put in the first that

criteria to expect changes and incremental growth in terms of criteria to meet a second debate stage but we have not decided on what that is going to be yet. >> reporter: there will be some changes. what are the requirements right now to get on the first debate stage in august to sign a loyalty pledge. supporting the eventual nominee, some candidates like asa hutchinson want that amended, because it could potentially mean in this case with the front runner right now having to support a convicted felon. why should republicans be asked to support someone who could potentially be convicted of the felony. >> we have the presumption of innocence in this country and there is no convicted felon in the republican field right now. this is a beat item pledge and this is a no-brainer caitlin, anybody who is going on republican national committee stage to compete on the rnc nation ship should pledge the voters that once it's all said and done and the dust is settled, if the voters choose someone else that you need to get the out of there, and make

sure that we beat joe biden. that's the number one issue i hear from voters across the country, we cannot have division, and we cannot have president biden getting re- elected. i'm not going to support the eventual nominee, we cannot win without every gop member and independent. without getting on the debate stage, please pledge to the voters because you can commit to beat sleepy joe. >> when will you release the text of that text? will the rnc release with a loyalty prejudice will look like? >> i have the text of it, and when you look at all of the candidates, this is not a shock. and i love our field, they are all great. they are better than by i have great respect from their hats to the ring. we have individually met every campaign, dave bossi is running the debate committee. and that pledge is no secret. we will get that out for them. >> reporter: you know win?

>> i do not know if it has gone out, i will take a look. very soon. >> reporter: what they are referencing, hutchinson and the other concerns, the detailed indictment that we saw last week. serious national security implications. what you said there was important. trump is innocent until proven guilty. when you look at that and you see his conduct that has alleged in lightning, is that becoming of the former commander in chief and republican front runner? >> what i will say, bill barr is even said this. you just showed it's not always president trump sign on some of these issues but he said it is like a two-tiered system of justice. if you look back at hillary clinton, she had 2000 classified documents, 22 of them were deemed top-secret. she had eight different blackberries that were never investigated by the fbi and she has let off scott free and then you see a totally different standard of justice for donald

trump who had 17 top-secret documents. what i would say though is that how are we getting to a place where president biden vice president pence, hillary clinton, trump, although leaving with classified documents. the protocols of the white house need to change so we do not find ourselves in the situation. >> there are concerns about patients, but when you reference clinton, pentz, biden, very different circumstances than what trump is facing given the fact that he refused to hand over the information when the government asked and fairly clearly sinking in. mike pence looks at what's in this indictment, he cannot defend what is alleged here. bill barr said he would be toast in his legal term that used it even half of it is true. do you believe that there are serious concerns on what is alleged? >> we could hear from the trump defense team. it's way too early to jump to any conclusions when you are only hearing one side. without hearing the trump's

defense. let's let the process play out this, it is very disconcerting for republican voters to continuously see one system for justice for republicans and democrats. the interim report just came out, the dnc and hillary clinton put forward a fake dicier that cause the molar investigation but also, -- >> if you have concerns -- >> it's upsetting because it was a house and senate investigation by republicans. it thwarted our agenda from getting done. the american people reflected against a dossier fabricated by the dnc. where's the recourse? what is their punishment. for causing that to happen to our country. >> reporter: why is that? i think the question -- >> the questions on the dossier, republicans on capitol hill raising these allegations about the biden administration, but no evidence to back them up. on the trump indictment, that's

what i want to return to. that's where we saw some republicans defending the former president and some say they're concerned about the behavior and that it could potentially put armed forces in harms way, how he could handle it. do you share any of these concerns? >> i have not seen the whole process play out and i think the presumption of innocence is very real in this country and we need to honor that. but i do think that we have a very divided country, i am a republican, on cnn saying that. most of your viewers who may not be republican agree with me. we have a divided country. not joking. there is one standard for living clinton and one for donald trump, it doesn't help bringing our country to do that. >> without defending -- >> she never was investigated. she had a bleach bit server, she destroyed phones, -- >> we very famously had the fbi

at the time -- >> at the same level. >> -- let's go back to she had a 22 top-secret documents, trump had 17. that right in and of itself, they were more. >> he was holding onto u.s. your secrets, information about u.s. allies. >> he has not had a chance to defend himself but we know this, we know that she did not get indicted, she was pardoned. this was like richard nixon watergate. joe biden, addressing the american people in a time of crisis, a deeply divided country, a former president beating indicted is a crisis. do not hear from biden, hiding once again behind his staff, it's very disconcerting. we will let the process play out. i will say as a republican and i will go back to the door report as the head of the rnc,

to see no recourse on the democrats for treating a face dossier that i believe that the rnc had done that, if i create a fee intelligence about joe biden and passed it off and caused a three-year investigation and $41 million taxpayer dollars -- >> that wasn't just because of the dossier. those were the actions of george papadopoulos, the people were working for the trump -- >> this is the past intelligence. >> we are talking about what's happening right now. >> you said yourself you want to hear from the trump defense, we will potentially when this is in court. back on the subject and what you are in control of which are these debates. as a former president committed to doing the debate yet and signing this loyalty pledge. >> we have not had any of the candidates come in and sign the pledge yet. we will see as that unfolds.

i expect every candidate to be on the debate stage. katelyn, we all agree, the american people want to hear from these candidates, we want to hear how we are going to fix the broken border. how are we going to tackle 100,000 people dying on fentanyl. how can we tackle rates that are rising in inflation and energy casts and rent and that republican field debate and be in front of the american people and addressing voters as to how we are going to take back the white house is critical. i hope they are on the debate stage, that will be up to them to decide with their campaign and what tactic they think is best. >> there is no assurances about trumping >> he is not indicated what he's going to do. >> what does it say about the rnc if he doesn't come on the debate stage in your process? >> the rnc is critical. we set up the data, we are going to be the ground game, and by the way, the rnc members are all delegates. they are voting. they are elected by the grassroots, and we are going to

be an integral part of choosing the next nominee so i think all of these candidates, desantis has no chance. trump will be part of their cancellation as the campaign goes forward. >> is the gop is going to have a platform in the 2024 election? they did not have one in 2020. they want off the fact that trump was present when he would be the platform. will there be republican platform for the selection? >> there will be a private. we had extenuating circumstances, i'm sure you remember, our rules did not allow a virtual platform committee to me. so we had to revert to the 2016 platform. but the nominee will have a lot to do with that and there will be a platform. >> will that include funding and support for ukraine vecsey >> that is way too early for me to say, the delegates that are elected the platform committee will be talking about that but this, we have differences of opinion in our party. we are not group things.

there are differences of opinion, about a lot of things. for the beast concern i hear from republicans is why are we not securing our border. why are we allowing this huge swath of people to come across our border illegally we are loving the cartels to make aliens of dollars, allowing children to be human traffic. this is not good for anybody. they want to see priorities on the paradigm shift and reflected in our platform. >> those are all issues that i hear from republicans all the time here in washington, d.c. they talk about it, but likely, the only thing that candidates are running for the republican nomination, especially in the last week has been for legal troubles. did they distract from republicans and what they actually want to be talking about? >> in iowa, that's not what they are talking about. i don't live in the d.c. bubble, i live up in michigan. they are saying that hey, did

you see that gas is $12 per gallon? you see that our kids have massive deficits coming from the states that we are lacking down by democrat governors? people are very concerned. that's why you see such poor numbers for biden. people's do not think that they are on the right track. his approval rate is less than 12 and 5%. and that's why they are looking at this republican field and really hoping that someone emerges that will take on joe biden. >> we will see what that nominee looks like anna mcdaniels, thank you for having me tonight. >> congratulations. will get more reaction to those comments, about what the debate page could look like and the broader gop field, and escalator ride that change the world, this happened on this day, eight years ago. i had, where the right continues to take our nation and where it could be headed next.

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you get to this moment. it all ties directly back to that escalator ride in a new york elting bearing trump's name. but it is no longer his home. he with me now to talk about how this moment has brought us here, former ted cruz communications director, and senior political analyst, christian powers. it is remarkable, that is eight years since that. trumping the nominee, with a much different twist to it now, as he is twice indicted former president. >> there is nobody could be predicted how much this could happen. somebody wrote a novel or screenplay and this people would have said this could never happen. when we think back to watching that, i can still remember watching that and just thinking that this is ridiculous. there is no way. trumps a clown. based on what we thought we knew about the gop at the time. we learned a lot obviously doing that. about what the

republican party was and it was quite different than a lot of people had thought. >> having been on the ted cruz campaign, we watch that, without reality tv stars starting off the presidential campaign, clearly unconventional. nobody thought it would lead to where it is today. but he started his campaign, ran it, went into office, and ran this country in an unconventional way was i think was very divisive in many ways and the tone and tenor of it was that what many people would expect. but what he did by starting his campaign the way he did, he's a great businessman. people that knew him as a reality television start related to him. they do not want to start his campaign the way everyone else does >> he played a lot of games. that's what endeared him to a lot of his voters and supporters, people of this country that mcdaniel talked about in your interview which is excellent. people that felt like nobody was listening to them, nobody

was speak for them in washington and they looked at donald trump doing things differently and said that he is the one that can take voice and take it to washington. a lot of what she talked about is the voice of his supporters and his base across the country. >> of course, the moment when he talked about mexican being sent across the border. he set the tone for his campaign and his presidency and what we saw but the fact that here we are, eight years later, he is the republican front runner. you work for ted cruz who did sign a loyalty pledge but did not really honoring. they cannot republican convention and did not endorse trump as the nominee. we are still having this conversation about candidates who now do not want to sign it for a very different reason >> reporter: a lot of people are this for personality. and for the party. and i think he was very wise the interview and moving forward to encourage not just the candidates but republican

porters across the country. we need to rally behind one person, united message, united front to take on president biden and whatever the democrat might be. i think the unity pledge is a great vision, and a great idea, i'm not certain everyone will go for it. i understand asa hutchinson's reservations about potentially supporting somebody who might be convicted of serious crimes. >> the former governor of arkansas, it is also chris christie who is saying i will honor it as much as trump did. of course when he signed it, he got on the stage. >> it's a meaningless thing. honestly. they do what they want to do for the most part. they signed to get on the stage, but they are not going to honor it unless they feel that it is going to be good for them i think. i would love to say they are honoring their conscious, some of them are, some of them think about what's best for them. i actually think that people

should honor their conscience, they should not just get behind somebody because the rnc is behind them. as i think this person would be a bad president they should not be saying they support them. >> we spoke to her about what she believes trump will do about the debates. he is going to boycott them. you have not received any resources. is that what you are saying? >> he has not indicated what he will do. >> there is a very good chance he won't show up. if anything he's indicated more than not that he's not playing duplantis abate in the debate. to be quite honest from a communication standpoint, and messaging standpoint if he is 30 points ahead, in a primary, he probably shouldn't do so from that standpoint. but obviously as we get to the general election it's a completely different story. but i think the point you are

moving forward, these debates are so important and critical for the voters out there to hear the candidates and see how they are different. and, whether or not donald trump is on the stage or not, that's where we are going to start. helping voters make a decision on it was the best person for the party. >> let's see if he shows up come august. thank you both being here on friday. coming up, very important update. guilty verdict for the shooter or robbed 11 families of their loved ones and the tree of life massacre synagogue. the jury is to decide between life in prison and the death penalty. we will speak to a longtime member of the pittsburgh synagogue where it all happened who do the victims.

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unanimous decision, guilty, the deadliest anti-somatic attack on u.s. soil to ever happen. robert bowser massacred 11 worshipers at the tree of life synagogue pittsburgh pennsylvania. he was found guilty of 63 charges including hate crimes. remember back in 2018, he

stormed the synagogue where people are praying, he targeted them because they were jewish. today's verdict cost of course with one pennsylvania state lawmaker putting it this way. >> innocent people recount of the worst days of their lives. the worst minutes of their lives . worst than anything the rest of us had ever known. let us remember that survivors reopen these wounds for us. for humanity. because they just have to be a record they recorded history. now every one of us much grapple with that story. >> is talking about the testimony there as the prosecution called 60 witnesses over three emotional reeks of testimony. the last one was injury wagner. she told the quote i saw my right arm to be blown open in

two places. the pain was the worst pain i've ever felt. i looked at it as i felt it and it felt like the phantom pain. she described seeing her 97- year-old mother who was shot in the face dying next to her. she said "i knew she was not going to survive, i kissed my fingers and i touch my fingers to rescan, i cried out mommy". i am joined now by jeff sullivan who knew several of the victims in that synagogue. and, just a year or even a part of the testimonial, i imagine that it has been very difficult to hear the details of this entire tragedy all over again, throughout the trial. but that was also so important to getting the verdict that they received today. >> i mean, i think that the congressman said well, it is just a chancery court history so that everybody can hear what exactly what happened in painstaking detail. it's really hard to hear. and, i heard andrea's testimony, i'm listening to you repeated.

i've known her for a long time. her brother allen was my basketball coach. we attended the synagogue together for many years and i knew them really well. it's hard to get those images out of your head. >> you are talking about rose. i was there after this happened, rosa's son was -- this community, it is such a closely knit. the light of this verdict when you walk into a synagogue this seventh, do you think that it would feel differently? >> you know, i think there is some mosher for sure. i don't know if they will feel differently. going to the synagogue has a new meaning for me at least anyway. which is, every time i go and every time i play, i recognize that this is our moment in history as a jewish people, we heard the stories and it's part of our heritage. this is the first time this is happened to us. this is the biggest one having here in the united states and

that's part of what is shocking buddy, it's happening in our time and in many cases i just feel like when i go to the synagogue i am very much a part of that history. and now, for having experiences, i was not there that day, but certainly i know exactly where i was and i remember living through it with my family, i was highly emotional and difficult. >> you grew up with the tree of life synagogue, and i knew that you knew the victims here. and we are close to cecil and david rosenthal, and they were just basically inseparable. on a day like this, how do you remember cecil? >> you know, there's not a day when i don't think about them. it's horrible. they were so much part of our community growing up, and the presence of them, it's greatly missed. cecil and david were just good people. genuinely good people. in the sense that i don't think

they actually know what evil was, and so, you know, the fact that this happened to them, and the nine other folks that were affected, just because they went to the synagogue, it's very difficult to comprehend. it leaves a hole in your heart, a black hole, and at least for me it has motivated me to go out and do good things. every time i do something good, a conscious, i do an extra good thing a day, for the last five years in memory of those because honestly, 11 people, they were good people. the world is missing the good acts because of this. so i think it's a thing that where it compounds me. extra good things to make up for the fact that their lives were cut short by this. this tremendous tragedy. >> that's one of the loveliest things i've ever heard, you are trying to make up for the good that they cannot do by you doing those good acts. jeff solomon, i know this is a

tough thing to talk about. and it's greatly personal. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for covering the story, you bet. thank you for helping us that the 11 lives were not lost in vain and we get to talk about them and every time we do it's like they are here. >> before we go we want to remember all of the 11 lives who lost in that attack. joy steinberg, a widowed grandmother, dr. richardson who ran a dental practice with his wife, rose mellinger who was 97, spry full of life. pastors treated early hr ed patients. the inseparable brothers that we mentioned there, david rosenthal, sylvan and bernie simon, they were killed in the synagogue where they were married. daniel stein who was just enjoying retirement. and younger who like to do greek congress with a smile and melvin wagner was in a good mood and full of jokes.

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>> a court order to limit what former president trump and his attorneys can say publicly about documents and evidence in the case. a procedural one, investigators could also have reason to be worried about he can

potentially share. look no further than the social patient today, and what he posted. >> bill barr, a disgruntled former employee and very weak person, and a very lazy attorney general, he was totally ineffective. >> let's discuss the legal and national security risk of trump taking to social media with what he learns about the case. with me tonight, jamil jeffers. the executive director of the national security institute at george mason. cnn legal analyst, carrie cordero. thank you for being here. i know there's a procedural step, it's not exactly the surprise that jack smith's office is asking is there reason to be concerned that trump could potentially share what they've learned, but they are showing with the team? >> there is a lot of witness testimony that will go into the case, there is a lot of potential evidence, there is ongoing investigations of being involved. it could make those

investigations harder to pursue an all trump has a pension for getting out there and taking a comes with his mind. it's no surprise they ask for the protective order. will the judge be able to enforce it if in fact it starts violated. >> speaks frequently about this. he's basically going after jack smith nonstop. why he made that video, he put in the top levels of government because this is what they said about their view of how much legal trouble he could be in. >> even half of it is true that he is toast. it is a pretty clear-cut decision. and it is very damning. >> we can all make stakes and get them to the wrong place but you have to turn them then when they identify that. if the allegations are true some of these are pretty serious and working documents. >> if he has anything like the complaint was, and of course

the government will have to prove it, then he is committed very much so serious crimes. >> what you make about that compared to for example what we hear from rhonda mcdaniels and we said that she wants to wait until the defense comes onto it. we are pretty damning if it's true. >> these are people who are national security responsibilities when they were in government including in the trump administration. and every single one of them knows that if they saw a case like this, come through the justice department when they were in government. they each absolutely would support the just apartment going forward with the prosecution based on the nature of the documents that were mishandled, based on the obstructive conduct that took place. they all know that and so, they are being honest in their assessment. >> they are asking judge cannon, she has done a lot of scrutiny in the last several days. what is your sense. >> judge cannon like every

judge has an obligation to up hold the rule of law, she had some rulings that the disagreed with the prior version of this case when the matters before her went up to the 11th circuit, she implemented it. every reason to think that judge cannon can handle this case and effectively, and her position. >> can i ask you about something that jim trustee, one of the attorneys of trump, resigned from his legal team, youth drew from a lawsuit of the former president has against cnn. setting irreconcilable distances that stood out to a dui, they would not normally put a reason in a civil case like that. >> well, the former president has trouble keeping his lawyers, trustee had withdrawn after you interviewed him, 12 hours later, the classified documents. in the classified documents case, he was on talking about indictment and the indictment turned out to be much different than what he described on air. so, it is a difficult

circumstance for the former president that he cannot keep his lawyers, who knows if we will learn the actual reasons, what actually is this a specific reason. it's unusual to go this far with a client and then after they are indicted withdraw from the case and that probably i would guess leads to his not being able to have a functional relationship with his client in the civil case. >> todd blanche was now the top attorney on his team, he hasn't dealt with his case. he's been on the legal team for a few months. thank you so much for being here to talk about the implications and what this looks like going forward. donald trump's use of the fence document to show off stanton stark contrast to another man who is in the news today. the legal release of the pentagon papers in 1971 exposes lies by multiple presidents about america's involvement in vietnam and plans to deploy u.s. troops.

ellsberg died today of pancreatic cancer in the age of 92. the disclosure of roughly 7000 pages of pentagon documents led to a landmark supreme court case upholding the first amendment. on a personal level it like to an all-out effort by the nixon white house to discredit him. something you can hear clearly on the white house state of nixon's directing, the message that he wants delivered to the fbi director j edgar hoover. >> you have to keep our eye on the main hall, the main ball is ellsberg. you have to get this son of a gun. >> if you remember, it went up to jury deliberations. only to be tossed out by the judge due to a real weaponization of executive power. we are talking illegal wiretapping, and the former psychiatrist office, president nixon's aid offer the judge a job, the fbi director. all of that i had tonight, in the news today, the murder of

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his death has had a revocable impact on the minneapolis community, on our country, and on the world. george floyd should be alive today. >> that murder, more than three years ago led to a massive justice department review of policing in minneapolis. today, attorney general, merrick garland, announcing the findings of a two-year investigation. systemic abuses by the minneapolis police department like unlawful use of force racial discrimination first amendment violations and discrimination against people with your health disability's. garland claims that the patterns and practices his department observed made what happened to george floyd possible. the biggest question, how do these findings lead to change. can they lead to change. joining us now, charles ramsey,

thank you for being here tonight. i do think that is the big picture. do you think that it could lead to lasting change? >> i think i certainly hope so. but, we say that every time these things happen. i do think that you know, the consent decree that will be put in place, in minneapolis, will certainly help. i certainly work with the justice department in the past, it does make a difference. but it takes more than just a consent decree. it does take strong leadership, transformational leadership, at all levels in the organization. you look in minneapolis, in that department. cultural issues in the department did that have to be addressed. and a lot of effort on the part of everyone. not just the police, but the community, the city itself.

everyone working together to really effect any kind of meaningful change. >> on the consent decree which my understanding now it's basically an agreement to get an agreement. but when you've talked about how those have worked, your time in washington, philadelphia, what is it about it that is useful do you believe? >> you know, when i was in washington, d.c., back in 1998, i actually asked the justice department to come in and take a look at our training and use of force, everything. and i'm told that's the first time anyone ever asked the justice department to come in. and we entered into a memorandum of agreement, which is the same as a consent decree, minus the court. it was just an agreement. it made a huge difference. they brought in subject matter experts. they went through all our policies, all our training. made sure everything was up to standard as it should be. and its had pu also put the any

position where they had to upgrade technology, upgrade training, all those things that needed to be done in the ko department. it made a tremendous difference in our ability to turn the department around and get it on track where it needed to be. it play as critical role, but it's also important to have a strong judge that oversees the consent degree like they do in baltimore for example. keep everybody's feet to the fire, keep the process moving forward. so there are a lot of moving pieces, but it does make a difference. >> we'll see what that consent decree looks like. chief ramsey, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> and more personpective, we he

the our guest. and as we were watching attorney general laying this out in this press conference, one of the most chilling parts was talking about derrick chauvin and how he had a history of breaking these protocols and using excessive force. almost textbook of what we saw. what does it say to you that made it sound like it could have been preventible, if only there had been the proper systems in place. >> that's precisely it. it's not a matter of having bad actors, but having bad actors in a culture of bad policing. in other words, we have police officers who leave like cookie crumbs of cruelty. traces of bad behavior, over weeks, months, years. it's not a matter of going after the bad apples, we need to go after the bad bushel. that means the use of consent

decrees. it also means police departments and police chiefs calling on the justice department, agreeing to enter into consent decrees. in other words, this law which allows the justice department to use these consent decrees goes back o30 years, and the biden administration has resuscitated the use of consent decrees when they were really not used by the trump administration at all this. is really important, but we need to do more. we had 18,000 police departments in 19,000 jurisdictions. we can't use consent decrees everywhere. >> listening to merrick garland, he said we have observed many officers who did their difficult work with professionalism, courage, respect, but taking that into account and looking at the bigger picture, do you have concerns that speaking of those other departments, there are

more minneapoliss es out there. >> i definitely have concerns. and people all across this country, when george floyd was killed, 26 million americans ray cross a550 jurisdictions took t the streets. we need the george floyd act to pass, we need more tools >> which it doesn't seem like it will. >> it has to. because here's the thing. we want to gather to this table not just to talk about the next george floyd or the last george floyd, but talk about policing and public safety, including people being safe from the police. >> and when you talk about that, that moment, it was just this watershed moment in our nation of how people responded, but defund the police was a pretty big rallying cry at the time. >> mm-hm. >> and you look now. we've seen the polling that shows support for it has dropped significantly in that time. you can see here what it looks like in the summer of 2020 and what it looks like now.

what's the force behind that? >> i think many people in this country have been presed presen false choice, between being safe from police or safe from crime, when in fact you can have both. it's not a matter of defunding the police and having nothing, it's defunding those things tha don't work. and police departments are doing that. >> cornell william brooks, thank you for being here. >> it's great to be with you. >> great to have your perspective. thank you all for joining us tonight on this friday night. "who's talking to chris wallace", with arnold schwarzenegger and andy garcia is up next what if we live to 100. i don't want to outlive our money. i keep eating all these chia seeds. i could live to be 100.

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