tuesday morning lviv also came under attack. the head of the local military administration conceding that critical infrastructure was struck, but declined to go into further detail beyond saying no one was injured. now, the ukrainians continue to press their counteroffensive. a statement from the official center for strategic communications claiming russian forces were suffering heavy losses in troops and equipment. russian officials denied those claims, insisting ukrainian attacks have been repelled. one war correspondent working for russian state tv said that the ukrainians are being forced to throw ever greater reserves into what he called the meat grinder on the southern front. alex. >> thanks to ben wedeman.

i'm alex marquardt in "the situation room." ♪ "out front" next. 34 hours, that's how much oxygen is left for the five people missing on a submersible heading to the titanic. plus, hunter biden's plea deal. president biden's son agreeing to plead guilty to federal criminal charges, most likely avoiding jail time. republicans are calling it a sweetheart deal. is it? and turning russians from putin's war into a prison cell. the new campaign from behind bars for alexei navalny. his daughter dasha is my guest. good evening. i'm erin burnett. the clock is ticking as rescuers race to save five people on

board that submersible off the coast of newfoundland called the titan. it has about 34 hours of breathable air left, according to the coast guard. the vessel was headed 13,000 feet beneath the ocean's surface heading to the titanic. it's been missing since yesterday morning. rescue teams are gathering at the scene. the search area for the su submersible is now larger than the entire state of connecticut. you're looking for a proverbial needle in a haystack. the u.s. military sending in c-17s and c-130s and the deep ocean salvage system could be the deepest rescue mission in history. there are new signs it possibly could have avoided. industry leaders writing a letter to stockton rush, the ceo

of oceangate expressing deep concern, writing to rush. he's on board the missing sub tonight. they wrote him in letter in which they said, the experimental approach could result in negative outcomes from minor to catastrophic. your marketing material advertises that the titan design will meet or exceed safety standards, yet it does not appear that oceangate has the intention of following class rules. that was nearly five years ago. here we are five years later and that oceangate sub is missing. it may be at the bottom of the ocean floor near the titanic's wreckage. it's waters as deep as mt. fuji is tall. at that depth, it's pitch black. there's no light. the pressure, of course, is bone crushing. there's no way to get out.

we spoke to a software engineer who not only went on an oceangate expedition to the titanic but did so in the very sub missing beneath the surface tonight. he described what conditions are like. >> it is going to be cold down there, but it's not freezing. they will have layers down there. you know, it's not that it's ideal. the temperature at the bottom at the titanic is negative below zero, but it's saltwater so it doesn't quite freeze. but it is cold down there. >> he's actually been there on this very submersible. tom foreman has a lot more on what it's like inside the titan. the coast guard is admitting even if crews are able to locate the sub, it is unclear if the five people on board can be saved. >> even with the amount of time that's left, say 41 hours or, so if you were to find the

submersible at this moment, would that give you enough time to save these five people on board? >> yeah. i don't know the answer. what i will tell you is we will do everything in our power to effect a rescue. >> it's an honest answer. it is a terrifying thought as we think about the fact that there are five human beings there underneath the water perhaps still alive, hoping they can make it out of this alive. some of them paid upwards of $250,000 for the honor of this trip to see the titanic on oceangate. there's a lot to get to. jason carroll is out front live in boston. what is the latest you're hearing tonight? >> reporter: the coast guard is telling us at this point they're going to be releasing to the public a grid they put together which shows exactly where they've been searching thousands of square miles of open water.

one coast guard captain described it as a complex search that will take time. time is something they simply do not have on their side. >> right now all of our efforts are focused on finding the sub. >> reporter: with each passing hour, it is becoming increasingly clear if the five people on board the missing submersible are to be rescued, it will have to be soon. there's little more than 30 hours of oxygen inside titan's tiny hull. when asked if that's enough time, the coast guard said this. >> i don't know the answer to that question. we will do everything in our power to effect a rescue. >> reporter: search and rescue teams from the united states and canada have been working around the clock in the north atlantic and have scanned an area about the size of connecticut. remotely operated vehicles equipped with cameras are now searching the area where the

vessel was last seen sunday. sonar buoys are trying to detect any sound from the submersible. >> it's a challenging operation, but right now we're focused on putting everything we can at it and searching as hard as we can and getting assets out there as quickly as we can. >> reporter: according to the coast guard, the titan lost communication with its mother ship, the polar prince, less than two hours into its descent sunday morning as it headed nearly 13,000 feet below the surface. the company that operates the submersible, oceangate expeditions, released this statement. our entire focus is on the well-being of the crew and every step possible is being taken to bring the crew members back safely. ceo and founder stockton rush, a pakistani businessman and his

son, the vessel's pilot, a british billionaire also on board. he was recently a passenger on board blue origin's space flight in 2022. saturday he posted on his facebook page, i am proud to finally announce that i joined oceangate expeditions for their rms titanic mission as a mission specialist on the sub going down to the titanic. just before the expedition, harding texted his friend. >> he said, hey, he was all excited going down to see titanic as long as weather permits. he was very excited about it. there was no concern in his voice. >> reporter: despite all that search and rescue teams are up against at this hour, the coast guard described this as a full court press to get more additional equipment into the

area, dadditional assets coming in from new york and other places in canada. again, it's timing. it's all about timing. >> thank you so much. i want to go now to david gallow. he col-led an expedition to create a map of the titanic. he's an oceanographer. also larry daley, an expedition specialist who rode a submarine to the titanic. david, you spent an enormous amount of time mapping this area underwater. how hard is this rescue mission? >> oh, it's difficult. but, you know, i think compared to some of the big missions where we had for instance air france or malaysian air maybe

seemed more manageable, but the oceans are a tough place to look. it's pitch black at depths. you don't know what the waves and currents are doing, so it can be really tough. a lot of the search effort right now, i can't help but believe that effort should have been put into what happens in those few hours after that sub doesn't return to the surface. we've known this might happen forever, for decades that this was going to happen sometime. did we prepare for it? no. there's no protocol, none of that stuff. so this is what we end up with, a difficult search and five people and their loved ones in the balance. >> imagine if they are there counting those minutes jammed in an incredibly tight space, hoping against hope, it's horrible to contemplate. larry, you've been down there. we're looking at the search operations in newfoundland. you're nearby and you know these missions well. you've been down to the titanic

as well and you know how deep it is, what it feels like to be there, to be able to see nothing, to know that pressure is around you. are you still optimistic? >> yes. first of all, good evening to you both. yeah, i'm very optimistic. i'm keeping positive. you know, i know the atlantic from where i grew up in st. johns newfoundland. it's out far away and down deep, but there's a lot of assets being deployed there as we speak. there's still good air left, as we know. i'm being optimistic. probably it will be a miracle, but there's still a chance. excuse me. we should do whatever we can and use whatever resource available to at least try. >> david, this is personal for you as well. i hear the emotion in larry's

voice. you know paul who's there. you worked closely with him on the titanic and the recovery of air france flight 447. he's down there. he's in charge. what can you tell us about him? he would be doing whatever he could, whatever there is that can be done? >> he's as comfortable and competent on the deck of a ship in a fierce storm as he is in a parisian cafe. in france that call him mr. titanic. he would do everything he can and without panic to work his way out of the situation. it's odd for me, because normally if we're doing an interview like this, paul would be somewhere up here talking about it like i am. now he's on the other side of the equation.

>> it's got to be so hard to imagine that, a person so full of life as you describe, so beyond competent and calm. what is it that can be done? there's no signals down there, right? there's no way to communicate other than to hope somebody hears banging. >> yeah. it's curious, because it seems like they never made it to the bottom, because they lost contact at an hour and 45. i think they would still be mid water someplace. it takes two hours to get to the bottom. this whole idea of being caught at the wreck or snagged or whatever, then you've got to wonder what happened to the electronics that they couldn't signal the ship. then you start to get to wondering how could that be. again, the ocean is a very strange place. anything is possible.

i just hope that something happens in the right way. a lot of rumors, a lot of ifs, ands or buts and everything heading in the wrong way, we need things to turn around. good time for prayer right now. >> when i showed the animation earlier to understand how deep the titanic is and i understand the ship may not have made it down there. i don't know if it would have drifted laterally or vertically. how difficult would it be to find something if they were to find it? how would you be able to get it up quickly enough in the amount of time left for them to survive? >> first of all, i think there's about a one knot current at depth. you're not being thrusted around per se. it's pretty stable down there.

it's midway down. i'm not sure would it be neutral buoyant at that point or drifting back up. i think it would either go back down to the bottom or up to the surface. i captn't speculate because i'm not familiar with the platform they're using to search for it. back 40 years ago they found titanic using a pretty older technology, i think side scan sonar. so the technology available now is very effective and can be deployed very quickly. that's why i'm optimistic because you can get on site and get those assets in the water deployed and start moving using a grid at the depth and scan, look and sound, sonar, just anything that's not the wreck and kind of pinpoint from there. i would think that technology could be out there and deployed fairly soon. that's my hope. >> i know we all share that as everyone is watching this and

hoping and praying. thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. next, president biden's son hunter reaching a deal on sk criminal charging, making it extremely likely he'll avoid jail time. plus, top putin opposition leader alexei navalny on trial today. the proceedings were pulled from public view as those around him say his health is deteriorating and he's losing his eyesight because of his treatment in prison. we take you to mexico where there's a massive migrant search in an unexpected place all with the goal of entering the united states. >> you can tell it's crushing her. i said what are you guys going to do? they said just wait. and more coming up on inside that titan sub. we're going to show you exactly what it is like in there as 34

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of a felony gun charge. the doj will recommend a sentence of probation. republicans are quick to claim this is evidence of a, quote, weaponized justice department. here they are. >> it continues to show the two-tier system in america. if you were the president's leading political opponent, the doj tries to put you in jail and give you prison time. if you are the president's son, you get a sweetheart deal. >> this doj continues to hunt republicans and protect democrats. i can't think of anything more blatant. >> all right. so those are very clear accusations. evan perez is out front. let's start with what we know on the facts of the case. hunter biden's attorney says the investigation is resolved. the u.s. attorney in delaware, of course trump-appointed, says it's, quote, ongoing. what is it? >> well, the language that the u.s. attorney included in their press release which says the

investigation is ongoing is standard language you have in something like this, especially one where a judge has yet to finalize the plea agreement. a judge will have the final say as to whether hunter biden gets probation, whether he has no jail time or even the diversion, which has to do with him going through some kind of substance abuse help and complying with the terms of that and having this gun charge wiped away. that will be up to a judge. we do know that the fbi and the irs investigated all aspects of this, including hunter biden's business dealings in ukraine and china. in the end, they arrived at this as the charge they could try to make a deal on. so it is possible that there are other aspects not related to hunter biden that are still under investigation. we will see whether those come

forward. >> i hate in these situations having to mention who appointed a judge or an investigator because the whole point is we should trust our justice system. i do mention this was a trump-appointed person leading this up, because republicans are saying that the plea deal is evidence of a double standard by the doj after trump's indictment for his handling of classified documents. can you just give us some facts on how this compares with other cases like it? >> there's not a lot of cases like this one. typically when someone gets in trouble for possessing a gun, someone who's prohibited from having a gun, it's usually someone with a felony conviction. hunter biden has never been convicted of anything. he is a first-time offender. according to the facts of this case, he had this gun for about less than two weeks.

it was never used in a crime. there was no indication that got into anybody's hands that it shouldn't be. that's part of what made this a difficult case for the justice department. there's no indication he's getting a special or a sweetheart deal. but politics is going to rule the day on this and you can bet republicans are not going to let this drop. >> absolutely not. evan, thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to go to andrew mccabe, the former deputy director of the fbi. you just heard speaker mccarthy, senator scott, who is running for president. republicans are saying the plea deal is evidence of a weaponized justice department. is it a sweetheart deal or not? >> it's very hard to know without looking inside the case file and understanding what evidence the prosecutors and the investigators had to work with.

it's also really not fair to start making accusations until legitimate oversight has an opportunity to take place. those are reasonable questions to ask to see if the prosecutors and doj exercise appropriate judgment based on what they had. i think what we can say pretty confidently is there have been many indications this five-year investigation hasn't really been going anywhere. it started with pretty lofty directives of looking at influence peddling. >> they were looking at bribery, corruption and really, really serious corrupt, bad stuff. >> right. so if this is, in fact, the only charges that the government can prove against hunter biden at this point, that tells you the investigation didn't really go anywhere. i should add these charges are pretty rare. we don't typically see people getting charged criminally for taxes they have actually already

paid even if paid late. those cases do not play well in front of juries because juries ask, quite rightly, why are the prosecutors wasting time prosecuting someone who's already paid their tax bill. >> it's possible if there's a double standard, it's actually a standard against him, to treat him with more rigor. >> entirely possible. in fact, on the firearms charge, there's not too many hard scient statistics on this, but in 2017 there were 478 referrals made about people who lied on the firearms form and less than 300 cases were filed out of 25 million gun sales. that's exceedingly rare. to be charged for that, if anything, they may have been leaning pretty far forward. >> where does this go from here when people ask what does it mean for joe biden? i know comer said he went into

the secure facility. he wasn't happy with the documents. he said they didn't show what he thought they would. does that mean anything? >> i don't think so. what's going to matter for this congressional committee is if they ever actually turn up evidence of wrongdoing by the president or members of his family. we've heard they haven't turned up anything yet. they haven't announced or shown any significant findings in that area. people should be asking show me the facts that there was wrongdoing happening here. so far we haven't seen that. >> and after five years of looking for it, we understand they came one the gun charge and the tax misdemeanor. nothing else. thank you very much. i appreciate your time, deputy director. >> thanks. next, top putin critic alexei navalny's new trial is being held in secret.

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times here is sharing new video of us with ukrainian forces rushing a soldier to safety while he was wounded while liberating territory. >> translator: well, this is how an evacuation goes down. waif wave your hand. >> i can't. it's broken. >> okay. i'll wave instead. it's broken is it? well, you've wave again after recovery. >> one of ours? >> yes. that's all that's left of him. >> translator: get him in there. higher. watch his head. i'm getting out. i'm getting out now. the 300 is in the armored vehicle. get out! get out now! they'll take care of him. okay, guys, lets skedadd,le.

fred pleitgen is out front tonight in ukraine with more. >> reporter: ukrainian su-25 attack aircraft given the go to assault russian positions. against all odds, ukraine's air force is still very much in the fight. are you helping the ground forces now a lot in the south with the counteroffensive operation? >> yep, yep. >> reporter: the mission is extremely dangerous, especially for front line attack aircraft. ukraine's aces trying to keep russian air defenses off balance. >> we lost many young pilots from our brigade. this taught us to change something. day by day we tried to fly not the same as yesterday. >> reporter: while kyiv says its counteroffensive is progressing, the battles are tough and gains

hard to come by. the biggest threat, ukraine says, russian air power. this video purporting to show a russian combat helicopter taking out a ukrainian vehicle. the ukrainians say russian interceptor aircraft like the su-35 often stopped their old mig jets from operating near the front lines. this mig 29 pilot who asked us to hide his face and use only his call sign juice tells me. >> without proper hardware, you can't win. >> reporter: the ukrainians say they need f-16s from the u.s. and its allies to level the playing field and to fully utilize the air-launched missiles the u.s. has already given them. in between the taxing war-time missions, pilots are already learning the basics of the f-16, hoping they'll be able to fly them in the future. >> we are trying to improve our

english skills. we are flying simulators. at the moment, we have like improvised simulators of f-16s from old bases. >> reporter: the pilots say for them it's a matter of life and death. the attrition rate among combat aviators extremely high. >> witnessing the explosion of your colleague by your eyes in realtime, it's a shocking picture, yeah. it's a really big, difficult situation. how to sit in aircraft again and again and again. >> reporter: when the call comes, they say they will be ready and back in the seat taking the fight to the

russians. you can see the huge price that ukrainian pilots like so many in the ukraine armed forces are currently paying. despite those huge losses among ukrainian aviators, they say they are highly motivated that right now that counteroffensive isle r rolling. they believe it's going to be a tough battle, but they believe it can be successful. they're hoping in the future they'll get their hands on those f-16s. in rush, the so-called extremism case against top putin critic alexei navalny continued today behind closed doors. the trial could mean decades more get added to the prison time for the opposition leader. what you're seeing is a video feed briefly available yesterday. they took it down so no one could see, not even his family.

here's what his father had to say to russia. >> translator: no shame, no conscience, no honor. >> with me is alexei navalny's daughter dasha. i appreciate your time. i'm glad to see you again. i'm sorry it's under these circumstances, your father having another trial and they could add more prison time. the state-owned news agency says they closed the trial to the public because of fears against participates in the process. what does that mean to you? >> thank you so much for having me, first. i think it's ironic that they close it out of fears of the prosecution considering the fact that normal russian citizens are being prosecuted by the russian government for simply not agreeing with them, and the judge and the prosecutor who are doing illegal things putting a man in prison who has done

nothing wrong or nothing illegal are afraid of prosecution. >> it's amazing what's happening we saw the feed at first. i know it's hard to even see that. it's grainy, but it's your dad. he's gone to a labor camp and solitary confinement and his press secretary says his eyesight is worsening due to the bright lights in his prison cell because the guards refuse to turn them off even at night. his health has been deteriorating and they're doing that on purpose, it appears. how worried are you? >> i'm, of course, incredibly worried. they're not providing any medical help for him in prison. before we know he has been poisoned by novichok and he has had acid thrown in his face and

they constantly wake him up in the night to torture him. i want him to get medical access immediately. >> your father has this other trial going on, which was actually a trial that confused a lot of people. what is this trial even about? they've already said he's going to prison for a long time, but he's trying to launch a new campaign to try to turn russians against the war in ukraine. from everything that we understand here, there's still incredible support among regular russians for the war. i know you and i have talked about there are groups that that's not true for and you've talked about that. overall we still see it in surveys. how is he trying to accomplish this now? >> what they're doing now is they're going to ask volunteers to call in foreign service and ask questions about the war. those who are still on the fence of what's happening and don't

necessarily understand or have questions or even want their relatives to talk to someone to explain what's happening with the war in ukraine that was started by putin. basically i think it's an amazing thing to start considering the fact that my dad announced this while he's in court being prosecuted on his own case and he decided to announce to do something for the russian people for the better future of the country. i'm incredibly proud of him. >> so your grandfather, we heard him there. he said russia has no shame, no conscience, no honor. i know that it's been more than a year since your dad has seen his own parents. how would you describe what putin is doing, what russia is doing right now on a personal level to your father, to your

family? >> i can talk about this for hours. it's not even about my family. i'm sad and disappointed and angry that he's doing this to people who haven't done anything to him, to normal russian citizens, to ordinary ukrainian citizens. he's killing people. he's threatening people. he is asking people to move out of different countries. i want him to stop, and i want his government to stop what they're doing, surrender and stop this horrifying war. >> dasha, i'm glad to see you again. one of these times i hope it will be under very different circumstances. thank you so much for sharing this what's happening to your father. >> thank you for having me. next, search and rescue

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you're looking at live pictures of the port in newfoundland where search crews are rapidly moving resources from the united states and canada all in that massive search for the missing submersible headed down to the titanic. more than 30 minutes have passed since we last updated you. the coast guard estimated the five people on board had about 35 hours of breathable air left. tom foreman has more on what it's like to be inside this titan submersible. >> oceangate expeditions offers you the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be one of the crew members safely diving to the titanic wreckage site. >> reporter: that may look like a luxury adventure on the surface, but beneath the waves, ask aaron newman who took the trip in 2021. >> it's very comfortable.

>> reporter: fully loaded with five people, the quarters are tight, he says, hot near the surface and nearly freezing in the depths. propellers to move the submersible seem rudimentary, although he insists they are adequate. >> not super complicated. they have two sets of fans, up and down and left and right. >> reporter: but communications is another story. the craft checks in with the ship above through a text messaging system every 15 minutes, relying on that system for safety and guidance. former navy submarine officer van gurley. >> all those things we're used to now with gps and wifi and radio links do not work under the ocean. the pressure is immense. >> reporter: oceangate says titan's carbon fiber and titanium hull has proven itself against that pressure repeatedly. a monitoring similar is set to warn the pilot of problems and even if everything fails, newman

notes the vessel should drop its external weights and rise automatically. >> it is designed to come back up. >> reporter: so the fact that there seems to be no clue has to titan's whereabouts is deep ly troubling to those who know the deep ocean best. >> the fact that this vehicle has not come back to the surface does not bode well. either it's an entanglement issue or there's a broader series of failures that have it now on the bottom. >> reporter: worth noting here newman knows two of the people who are in that missing vessel right now. he praises them for being real heros for wanting to continue the exploration of the deepest parts of the ocean and he's really hoping he will see them again soon. >> thank you very much. next, a story that you will see first out front. we're on the ground hundreds of miles south of the u.s./mexico border. migrants are growing more and

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david culver has this story you will see first here "out front." >> reporter: on the texas-mexico border, they patrol the tranquil waters of the rio grande. the flow of migrants slowing to a trickle since title 42 ended in may. on sidewalks in el paso that last month were covered with migrants, today only a handful camp out. the trouble more than 500 miles south into places like mexico city and the numbers are rapidly rising. overwhelming for the catholic nuns who run this shelter. at night every aspect of the shelter floor is full. inside and outside covered with the thin mattresses you see stacked around us.

wow. mexico city, which is very far from the border, she sees it, has now become a border town but in the center of mexico. >> reporter: the migrants here spend their mornings trying to get an appointment with a u.s. asylum officer. a confirmed date nearly impossible for some. it's crushing her. what are you guys going to do? they said just wait. wait for the date. maria jose comacho and her husband from venezuela arrived two weeks ago in mexico with their 4-year-old daughter, who have been here for the past several days. they feel like after title 42 expired, that it's now much more difficult to try to cross. title 42, the pandemic era immigration policy, allowed u.s. officials to immediately expel migrants who cross illegally without processing their claims for asylum, the same migrants

would often try and try again until they got in. now title 8 back in full effect. sure it gives migrants the right to claim asylum. those who fail to qualify risk being banned from entering the u.s. for at least five years. the result? migrants flooding into mexico where they then wait to figure out how they can get into the u.s. >> you can see encampments have already taken up most of this little square here. you can see along this street you've got an art gallery, a nice restaurant, but then just turn the corner here and look down the sidewalk, you can see tents and families who have been set up for days and weeks with nowhere else to go at this point. we drive an hour outside mexico city where a government-run shelter is set up to handle the overflow. officials tell us most here from haiti. make shift medical stations.

this little girl complaining of a sore throat. her dad says she's not wanted to eat in five days. they pass the time doing chores and playing sports. their cell phones sit in a web of chargers. battery power fuels their chances of getting an online cbp appointment. eventually they move on. >> these folks here are going to be boarding the bus. meet with mexican authorities and get paperwork that allows them asylum in mexico. they're trying to buy more time to continue on their journey to get to the u.s. southern border and get an appointment and they hope enter the u.s. legally. >> reporter: since title 42 expired, migrant crossings are down, for now at least. we visited eagle pass, texas. main street, quiet. but texas congressman tony gonzales warns what we saw

building up in mexico will push north. >> it's almost a calm, i say there's 800 apprehensions a day, just in the del rio sector. on the mexican side it's building up, building up. the cartel will adapt and that will be the next thing they send over. >> reporter: u.s. border officials warn as they fail to qualify, they are turning to cartel smugglers to get across. the congressman approaching a bipartisan approach to counter that. >> i'm of the mindset stop sending them down that route. work visas make sense to knee. remove the politics in it. remove you have access to vote or access to social services and say, do you want be to have a job? we have a job for you. link up the two. >> reporter: back in mexico city we find maria jose and their daughter walking a busy commercial street carrying a sign and candies. >> we're venezuelan migrant

family and we're asking for your support. >> reporter: they tell me they're out here three hours twice a day. she was a nurse in venezuela and so doing this, resorting to having to sell things, is different, as she points out, but she'd rather do this than just ask for money. >> what's really concerning in all of this, erin, you have the mexican cartel backed smugglers, this buildup of migrants as an opportunity. it's a potential business. we know they've trafficked human beings through trunks of cars and truck trailers, they've seen recent cases of migrants being smuggled over the pacific ocean and in many cases swimming through the pacific ocean at night just to get to the u.s. shows you how increasingly desperate and treacherous these journeys are. >> thank you very much for sharing all of that with us, david.

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