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>> good evening tonight on three, 60 the race to prevent another titanic disaster.
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five people in a tiny submersible last known whereabouts, 13,000 feet under the sea. some 33 hours of air left. also tonight, hunter biden's plea deal on -- we look at the effects. and the plot to assassinate a russian defector on american soil. good evening, we begin now with a desperate search for the oceangate titan. a miniature submarine with five people inside. they hoped to visit the right of the titanic on the ocean floor in the north atlantic but now they face a disaster of their own. they're slowly running out of air. that is, if they are still alive. we simply do not know. all communications have been lost. even if the craft is somehow able to surface on its own, it cannot be open from inside. rescuers would need to locate it before those on board run out of oxygen in some 33 hours. this is what five people aboard the missing oceangate titan are up against right now and what charges know all too well. joining us from st. john's, newfoundland, where the submerssible le ft on its mission. joining me now is miguel marquez. >> anderson, this is the port where the polar prince that took the titan to where it is right now left from. this is the sister ship to it. they have been furiously
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working on the ship. we expect that this ship is going to receive lots of the gear that is making its way to st. john's. this is a very small town on the very edge of canada. it is still 400 miles from here to the search area. but right now it is a race against absolute time. >> this is a complex search. >> a complex search. now more complicated by time. which they are running out of. >> we know there is about 40 hours of breathable air lift. >> deepwater submersibles and gear converging on st. john's, newfoundland, from the u.s. and canada. it is the closest land to those at sea. if the titan can be found, they will need to bring all resources to bear as quickly as possible. >> we are dealing with a surface search and a subsurface search. that makes it very complicated. >> the five person submersible started its dive around 5 am on sunday. it lost contact with its mothership, the polar prince, an hour and 45 minutes into a dive expected to last just over nine hours. at 6:35 pm, newfoundland time on sunday, the sub was reported
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missing. it failed to surface at the scheduled time of 6:10 pm. the vessel has oxygen for five people for about four days. oxygen is only one critical element. >> if they are alive, they will be at almost freezing temperatures, assuming they lost all power. that is why they cannot communicate. it will be dark, cold, and oxygen is their most precious resource. consuming that, staying calm, sleeping. >> the vessel and search area extremely isolated and deep. roughly 460 miles south of st. john's, newfoundland and 900 miles east of boston. possibly more than two miles below the surface where pressure is nearly 6000 pounds per square inch. >> we will do everything in our power to effect a rescue. >> miguel, what exactly is going on.
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you said that ship is waiting for some of the equipment that is going to be sent. obviously the clock is ticking. is that michelin going to try to get to the area of the dive? >> that is the hope. there are three enormous c-17 airplanes, u.s. military aircraft, at the airport in st. john's. there is tons of gear on there including some deepwater submersible gear that way believe will eventually make its way to the ship. there are several coastguard ships in the bay as well. another coast guard ship, the canadian coast guard, is already heading out there. it should be there in the morning. but all of this, anderson, assumes that they can find the capsule. this is the biggest. one they cannot find the sub yet. they don't know where it is. the easy part should be getting a ping of a beacon, know where it is, and being able to try to get to it to bring it up.
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if they can get that ping, they can figure out where that sub is, getting to it, getting those people out alive, that is going to be the hard bit. >> what i hadn't realized, early on, is that even if this is a vessel that supposedly is able to shed weight so that in the event of some sort of emergency it would naturally surface. it would naturally float up, but for whatever reason, that is not happening. even if it did float up, if the currents have taken it a great distance and rescuers cannot get to it once had surfaced, from the inside, those people inside cannot get out of that. they cannot open up this submersible from the inside. so they could run out of air even if they surface. >> they are bolted into the craft. it is an absolute race against time. they need to find them, even if they are bumping on the surface somewhere. the problem with that is they have searched a massive area.
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the size of connecticut, if that law at this point. with aircraft from the air. they have sonar beacons too, or buoys to try to hear what is happening underneath. the polar prince has sonar, trying to listen and to see if they can hear people cleaning on the side of this of. all of that, in the hopes they can identify, they have got to get them in time, at the end of the day, if they don't, they run out of air. even if they are close to or at the surface. >> miguel marquez, thank you very much. for some perspective now, from someone who has done the training that those passengers have been through. a self adventurer, who has been part of two missions. as someone who has prepared for similar expeditions, what do you think might have happened with the submersible. i understand it has multiple systems to should wait to allow it to surface unless it was somehow trapped under the water.
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>> we are really in the realms of speculation at the moment. frankly, nobody knows unless you are on the vessel itself. what could have happened, it could have been a logical failure on board. if the systems are shut down clearly the communications are not working since sunday after the one hour and 45-minute descent. what is supposed to be happening in the scenario, the submersible is supposed to drop the weights and given these remarkable as might of a carbon composite material, it is supposed to go back up to the surface somewhere, which makes it a lot easier for the ships and airplanes to identify and find it. that is, honestly, also, the best hope for getting back up to the surface. because, given the timeframe and like all of, well, limited supply of oxygen. there wouldn't be time enough to send a replacement submersible or anything that could try to mechanically lift it up. it would just be too complicated, too technical, not
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feasible. the best help really is to get rid of the weights and try to come back up to the surface. >> if the electrical system was out, will they be able to get rid of the weights, or does the require electricity? >> not sure whether they have a mechanical loop for that but i am sure this has been thought through by the engineers. they would be able to operate without, because you do try also to fail systems before you go down to these kinds of deaths. clearly, there is an issue, too difficult to speculate exactly what that is. >> i read that described it as a self rescue vehicle with several different types of i'm not in white. if, i mean, help much room is there for all these people? i assume your body has a seat. is there food on board, is there obviously, oxygen is a huge concern. >> the most important thing is oxygen. you do have not his ex hours of
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oxygen supply. in terms of, space there is not like a seat. you are not sitting in a seat. you are literally in a tube, effectively. there are five people inside. the length of the submersible itself is-less than seven meters. it is not huge. but it does fit five people. there is no toilet on board. so it is literally a place where you and as you go down during your dissent, which can take approximately three hours, most of the time you are sitting there chatting away, looking out at the dark. because there is not much to see all the way down and i stand it dive. there is not much facilities in its own right. if you have got to go to the toilet, there is a bottle. there will be water and, to a degree, food on board, as well, but clearly not intended for this direction. deepest issue is oxygen. that is the real important one. >> i know they were flights being flown over the seas, over
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areas. i assume that is just to see if the submersible has actually come to the surface. beyond that, do planes have any role in the search? >> absolutely. both planes and all the vessels. this is almost a little bit like, unfortunately, reminding us about the titanic when it actually sunk. remember, it was a number of commercial vessels that eventually made it there for the rescue. there are a number of commercial and navy vessels that have been deployed. they have put sonar in the water. trying to identify and see if they can find it via sonar. there are planes, c-130's, flying on top. for visual outlook, also using their radar. both underneath the water and above the water, the search and rescue mission is it clearly looking but so far to no avail. which is a bit strange because ultimately the submersible was targeting panic so the natural thing would be to start around titanic. as time goes on, it gets more and more difficult because the
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potential diameter of the search area would be increasing by the simple fact that, let's say, after one hour and 45 minutes of dissent, one would estimate that they would be at about 2500 meters of depth. let us say they were a mechanical failure at that point, a serious failure, and let's say currents--they slowly start to move the submersible in one direction or the other. as time goes on, they could move significantly. and lodging, setting up for that, navy search area by the currents. the time is the enemy here. i would hope, by now, or soon, the submersible would have made it to the surface. that is what i want to say, it is difficult, i mean, impossible to see in somebody down or something down. we just don't have a time. >> you were saying that it is possible it was taken by underwater currents. is it also possible that it
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sank and it is on the sea floor? >> technically, it is possible. but it is not designed for such. it is designed that you can unload the weight and it is supposed to make its own way back to the surface. but things can go wrong. we are really in the realm of speculation. nobody, frankly, knows. the person who would probably know best of all is stockton rush himself, who is on board the submersible at the moment. i guess the good news in that context is if you want to have a pilot who actually knows all the systems, who actually founded the company, he is on board. that is the good news. i am sure he is doing everything he possibly can to get them out of this very tragic situation. >> it is second and think about the people on board and it's more space. per wimmer, think you so much, appreciate your time. >> you're welcome. >> the five people on board including the pilot who first
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visited the titanic more than three decades ago. >> [speaking non-english] >> translator: the 24th of july, 1987, was my first dive to the titanic with two team members. it was unforgettable. we have been waiting a long time. >> that's paul-henri nargeolet. the frenchman has made the most dives to that frontenac, earning him the name mr. titanic. >> i am sure he did everything he could, making sure they had every chance of surviving whatever it was. >> it is difficult to imagine what it is like and saw that tiny craft. what sort of leadership would he bring that situation? >> he thinks outside the box all the time. the wisdom that that guy has is pretty amazing. it is just -- and that this is not something that will be gone tomorrow. it is something that could be forever. >> for stockton rush, the chief executive of the firm behind the dive who was also on board, the experience of those involved has always been crucial.
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>> five individuals can go on a dive. three of those hourly called mission specialists. those are those who helped finance the mission, but they are also in departments. we are not a fan of the tourist term because these are crew members. >> one of those crewmembers is the british billionaire and explore hamish harding. he was part of two record-breaking trips to the south pole and shape and world record for the fastest circumnavigation of the globe via both pose. last year, he went into space with jeff bezos's blue origin company. >> i have always wanted to do this. the sheer experience of looking out the window is something i'm looking forward to. >> in a post on social media over the weekend, he described feeling proud to be part of the titan's expedition. also on board shahzada dawood, who comes from one of pakistan's richest families and lives in the united kingdom
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with his wife and two children. he has taken his son, sulaiman dawood, just 19 years old, along with him. the family are now asking for prayers for their safety and prophesy for the family as the race to find a man enters a critical phase. melissa bell, cnn, paris. >> when we come back, a closer look at the history and mystery that has drawn people to the titanic for decades. later, the hunter biden plea deal. the claim republicans are making about inequal justice. what effect that we know and what do they have to say about it? for all the risk five people on board this vessel have taken, it is not hard to understand why they want to make a journey down to the atlantic. these recent remarkable images we see now from digital scans at the wreck site are extraordinary. for more on what is down there and what people are risking their lives to see for themselves, here is cnn's -- >> more than two miles below the cold north ethnic service. and water so dark and
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foreboding it took 73 years just to find the wreckage. just part of what makes the titanic so it kind of didn't do so many people. >> the titantic certainly wasn't the only disaster in this world. there is something very special about the ship. >> allure so intense that the cost of venturing down housatonic doesn't stop those with mains. oceangate expeditions, the company that operates the missing titan submersible, once posted on its website that cost start at $250,000 per person for one trip to the sunken ocean liner. >> yeah, $250,000 per person. it is state. but guess what, it sold out. it shows you how the story of titanic is for some people. >> part of the titantic mistake for historians, the fact that it was considered unsinkable when it sailed on its maiden voyage in 1912. with more than 2200 people on board, including some of the world's richest and most glamorous.
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>> john jacobs was certainly the most richest person in the united states in the time, possibly the richest on board, yet his richest book too much for him. he put them with the ship with the rest of the victims. >> more than 1500 people perished after the ship struck an iceberg and sank on april 15th. still, the deadliest peacetime sinking of an ocean liner or cruise ship. several books and movies depicted the disaster. >> i am flying, jack. >> but hardly anything caught our imaginations more than the 1997 film, titanic, starring leonardo dicaprio and kate winslet. winslet. ♪ ♪ the vehicles are all-electric. the feeling is all mercedes. the choice is all yours.
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>> it was earth shattering. people wanted to get more and more information about the titanic. with that, people wanted to get closer to the titantic, they just had to be there, they had to see it. director james cameron in an interview with cnn's larry king at the time of the movie's release, said the utter shock of the story was a big part of its historic significance. >> they were in denial, they just couldn't believe that this great edifice, city blocks and length, >> the titantic certainly wasn't the only disaster in this world. there is something very special about the ship. >> allure so intense that the cost of venturing down housatonic doesn't stop those with mains. oceangate expeditions, the company that operates the missing titan submersible, once posted on its website that cost start at $250,000 per person
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for one trip to the sunken ocean liner. >> yeah, $250,000 per person. it is state. but guess what, it sold out. it shows you how the story of titanic is for some people. >> part of the titantic mistake for historians, the fact that it was considered unsinkable when it sailed on its maiden voyage in 1912. with more than 2200 people on board, including some of the world's richest and most glamorous. >> john jacobs was certainly the most richest person in the united states in the time, possibly the richest on board, yet his richest book too much for him. he put them with the ship with the rest of the victims. >> more than 1500 people perished after the ship struck an iceberg and sank on april 15th. still, the deadliest peacetime sinking of an ocean liner or cruise ship. several books and movies depicted the disaster. >> i am flying, jack.
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>> but hardly anything caught our imaginations more than the 1997 film, titanic, starring leonardo dicaprio and kate winslet. >> it was earth shattering. people wanted to get more and more information about the titanic. with that, people wanted to get closer to the titantic, they just had to be there, they had to see it. director james cameron in an interview with cnn's larry king at the time of the movie's release, said the utter shock of the story was a big part of its historic significance. >> they were in denial, they just couldn't believe that this great edifice, city blocks and length, could possibly sink. this was called into question the entire eco of civilization. >> oceanographer david geller who works to preserve the authentic, says this is getting more challenging. between the tourist expeditions and the growing commercial ship traffic passing over the titanic, there is an increasing amount of trash at the site.
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he says several countries are now involved in figuring out how to put it. >> just ahead, republicans are trying to compare the hunter biden plea deal announced today to the trial of the former president now scheduled for mid august. they say there are two standards of justice. we will keep them honest, next. keeping them honest tonight, the hunter biden plea deal and what it is and what it isn't. which to a lot of extent is a matter of fact. it is a question whether the federal tax charges the president son pleaded to work typical for such cases or unusual. it is also a question whether it be permitted to avoid a firearms charge as hunter biden did by entering a pre-trout version program was par for the course or not. course or not. hey all, so i just downloaded the experian app because i wanted to check my fico® score, but it does so much more. this thing shows you your fico® score, you can get your credit card recommendations, and it shows you ways to save money. do so much more than get your fico® score. download the experian app now.
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it is a question whether there is any evidence the eu's attorney overseeing the investigation for years was in any way influenced by president biden or anyone else in the administration. those are factual questions with factual answers which are knowable or to some extent already known. so it is one, is the hunter biden case in any way equivalent or remotely comparable to the documents case against former president trump? because republican lawmakers today certainly say it is. >> it continues to show the two tier systems and america. if you are the presidents leading political opponent, doj tries to literally put you in jail. if you are the president's son, you get a sweetheart deal. >> that was house speaker kevin mccarthy today. another republican today, said this is the epitome of politicization of the weaponization of the biden department of justice. neither she or the speaker offered any evidence that the
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investigation was under pressure. -- a letter from the u.s. attorney in question, david weiss to, congressman jim jordan the june 7th. in it, the prosecutor writes, i want to make clear that as the attorney general has the, i have been current autumn authority over this matter including responsibility for the senate where, when, and whether to file charges and for making decisions necessary to interrupt the integrity of the prosecution -- it is signed, david c weiss units that attorney. he, as you probably know, was
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appointed by the former president. by president trump. in his letter, of course, he does not conclusively prove his impartiality, but it bolsters any notion. it sent and contrast to the former president reported plans criticizing the justice department if the again. and the promise he made the knot of his arraignment. >> i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the united states of america, joe biden. and the entire biden crime family. >> that is an open promise to do what there is no evidence that president biden did. in response to being charged with crimes that are in no way comparable to what the president son is pleading guilty to or charges he might face. for more on all of this, we are joined by cnn's paula reid. tell me more about this deal. >> as part of this deal, anderson, hunter biden has agreed to plead guilty to two counts of failing to pay taxes on time. both in 2017 and 2018, he owed
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approximately $100,000 but failed to pay the irs by the deadline. he has subsequently paid those taxes plus fees and penalties. as a result of this deal, the justice department is expected to recommend probation for his sentence. as part of this deal he can also avoid being charged with a felony related to the purchase of a gun where he allegedly failed to disclose his ongoing addiction issues. as part of this particular aspect of the deal, he will have to follow through with some requirements that will be set up by the courts. he is basically being allowed to enter a diversion program. a common alternative to incarceration, especially when drug or alcohol are involved. anderson, all of this is subject to approval by a judge. >> is the investigation over or not because we have heard
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different heart resident of that? >> great question. in a statement today, the u.s. attorney overseeing this, a trump appointed u.s. attorney did say as part of the statement that investigation is ongoing. we have talked to several sources and experts, they all suggest that this is likely boiler plate language. this deal is on the table but it hasn't been completed. a judge hasn't approved it. it will likely, this file, will be open for a while while he serves his probation, goes through diversion. only then does the class close. it will be highly unusual to enter into this deal, if they were still investigating substantive matters. you can bet, lawmakers, this will be one of the first questions they have for the u.s. attorney isn't as they have a chance to question him. >> this prosecutor, was he just
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looking at this, what he also looking at the other allegations that republicans have been making about hunter biden? >> this investigation has been going on for about five. yes they look at everything from foreign lobby into possible money laundering. last summer, they narrowed it down to tax charges and this potential charge related to a gun. about two months ago, biden's lawyers went to the justice department, made their pitch about why he shouldn't be charged at all. but and recent weeks, they have been negotiating. things ramped up in the past few weeks. that resulted in this agreement. but, as you well know, the
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president's son has been a real focus for republicans. they have not made very technicians about his foreign business dealings. trying very hard to link that to his father. they have been unable to do that. clearly, prosecutors and a trump appointed u.s. attorney looking into this for five years, at the end of the day, what they were able to get in terms of ideal only had to relate to failing to pay taxes on time and this one firearms. hodge arguably, fairly minor
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charges when you compare it to the unsubstantiated allegations that have been made about hunter biden. >> paula it appreciate it. more perspective elie honig. elie, is this a typical play deal, or a sweetheart deal is mccarthy's is? >> anyone who at this point has a fully formed deeply held opinion about whether or not this as a sweetheart deal is sort of telling on themselves. because, we don't know the universe of what doj had. unless you know that, you cannot really assess whether this deal is fair or foul. let me tell you a couple of things we do. notice you's attorney, david weiss, was a trump nominee joe biden kept in place. i have no reason to think he had any reason to tell the field in favor of hunter biden.
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if you look at this case, i don't see anything that jumps out to me is irregular. also, noticeably absent from the criticism, what federal crime, chargeable federal crime, two people believe hunter biden committed but hay has not been charged with? there is also lots of bad conduct, but what actual federal crime? i have not heard anyone articulate that. >> when mccarthy is saying this is a two tiered system of justice, the president's son you don't get jail time, but the former president, you do. >> it is going to be a really hard argument to make to the american public. there couldn't be a more starkly different facts patent from what donald trump is facing in his indictment on obstructing justice and political documents.
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to always point, this is a fairly pro forma charge. what i think is. this republicans should take the win here the president of the united states joe biden's son was charged with a federal crime. you should make that case to the public in a general election of what it might be an indictment of his character or his family's dealings. but there has been this ongoing search for many many years, you keep hearing of james comer coming forward, saying he may have a whistleblower, but then the whistleblower doesn't materialize. or that may be sketchy foreign dealings, we have all heard about the business practices.
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at least point, if it is is not a chargeable crime, it frankly doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. at the end of the day, a general election, the american public, if it is donald trump, is going to look at do you trust joe biden or donald trump. >> elie, the federal prosecutor in this told jim jordan that he hit bottom authority. what role does the attorney general have? could he have maybe sit little be soft on biden? >> he could have done that, but apparently he did not. that is why it is a really important. literate doj regulations say if you are a u.s. attorney you have to notify the process at main justice the, deputy a.g., of high-profile cases. this would qualify.
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the a.g. would theoretically have the power to overrule, but what he says is i make this call, neither merrick garland or any of his top brass had anything to do with it. >> is hunter biden still a useful political tool for the maga wing of the republican party? >> probably for the mega win. i think the more that republican overreach with him, the less effective he is. let's be clear. even back in the obama administration, when joe biden was vice president, hunter was a concern to biden officials about his dealings, some of the allegations around him. it was a factor in how not running in 2016 for president. there is plenty there. but you have to make an actual exit could be dual arguments. what was it he is doing, --
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>> as we reported earlier, hunter biden has agreed to plead guilty -- prosecutors to assault a felony gun charge. this afternoon, when reporters asked president biden about the case in california, he shouted, vote, i'm proud of my son. earlier, white house books when, said both the president and first lady love their, son and support him as he continues to rebuild his life. for years, hunter biden has battled drug addiction, and despite the controversy and potential political fallout of this, case the president has long defended his son. randi kaye has more. >> was there ever a time when you thought, okay, there is no, way he's going to give up on me. i have done it now? >> never. never. not once. >> in that exclusive interview
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with cbs, hunter biden, president joe biden's younger son opened up about his drug addiction, and his close relationship with his father. he told cbs, his father always saw the good in him. hunter recalled in that interview, how joe biden tried to get him to stop binge drinking vodka, which hunter began doing after his older brother beau died of brain cancer. joe biden was vice president at the time. >> so he ditched the secret service, figured out a way to get him over to the house, and were escorted -- he said, honey, what are you doing? he said, that, i'm fine -- >> you are not fine. >> hunter biden attended law school year, before eventually becoming a lobbyist. he struggled with substance abuse for years. in fact, he was kicked out of the navy reserve in 2014 after testing positive for cocaine. hunter shared details of his battle with alcohol, and drugs in his book beautiful things, published in 2021. >> one time, for 13 days
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without sleeping, and smoking crack and drinking vodka exclusively throughout that entire time. >> hunter's personal scandals made headlines, he briefly dated his brother's widow -- did not pay you as a federal taxes, and had questionable business dealings in ukraine. through it all, his father never wavered in his support for his son. joe biden spoke to cnn's jake tapper about it last year. >> he is an old man, he got hooked on many families have had happen, hooked on drugs, he has overcome, that he has established a new life. i'm proud of him. >> in october 2018, -- hunter's sister in law reportedly tossed his gun in the trash, out of concern for his safety. all of this reportedly mentioned in text messages discovered on hunter biden's laptop. also, emails discovered in the course of the investigation into that laptop, and forensically authenticated for cnn reveal, hunter biden was
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repeatedly warned about deep debts, and u.s.-backed taxes. a 2019 spreadsheet sent to biden from his assistant showed, more than half 1 million dollars in bills do, or past due, including hundreds of thousands in texas over several years. still, joe biden has always stood by his sons. when hunter and his brother beau were badly hurt in the 1972 car accident that took the lives of their mother and sister, joe biden took his oath of office for the u.s. senate at the hospital where his boys were recovering. now, decades later, the bond between the biden family seems to have only grown stronger. >> usually, he calls me right before he goes to bed, just to tell me that he loves me. >> randi kaye, cnn. >> coming up, a new report on a russian plot to assassinate a defector on american soil. here? i said get a pro.
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united states and russia could not be, hire a new report has details of a reported assassination of a russian defector on u.s. soil. according to the new york times which says it confirms story, the initial reporting comes from a forthcoming book by national security expert -- the times reports that the obsession, retribution against defectors led to a plot against a man named alexander -- when the times called, quote, a cia informant in miami, who had been a high-ranking intelligence official more than a decade earlier. russian intelligence located men in florida after he registered and obtain a fishing license, both under his real name. the plot was revealed in 2020, the man -- blackmailed to detain by u.s. officials. joined now by cnn security analyst -- cia chief of russia operations, how big of an estimation was this in your view to have
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russia go after an american informant on soil. >> yes, anderson, it is really significant one. back when i served at the cia, there was an informal agreements, and russians and the americans. this sort of thing would not happen, it would not try to target either the intelligence officers, or the spies of those intelligence officers were running. so, there was a spy that made -- the informal agreement, nothing on paper, and the informal arrangement, was that is off limits. clearly, putin has decided to -- some of the other people who -- the step where it goes into u.s. territory, it is -- >> the details of the spotter really interesting, but the pressure enlisted a mexican
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scientist had a russian wife who had detained or refused to leave, and i'm wondering, is that standard operating procedure for them? >> yes, not part of it is pretty much standard operating procedure. that is referred to as an access operation. so, i guess one of these stories, or more of the stories, do not have two wives. because he did. he had a russian wife. of course a mexican wife. the russians identified him initially when he went to -- earlier in his life to study. that is inside russia. i am very sure that is when they started a portfolio on him, and then probably contacted him and said look, we don't need anything from you now, but should we need something later, we will need your help. he probably nodded politely, but then when it turns out that he married a russian person who went back to russia and was told by the russians, you cannot leave. they then turn to him, and said
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we have your, wife we are -- >> the other thing about the times story, this former russian intelligence operative who i guess, i would assume had been given a new identity, to live in miami, had gone and register to vote, and had gotten a fishing license under his real name. how does that happen? >> anderson, i am afraid there is a number of things i can't talk about, whether or not we take care of people, we settle, people do things like, that it is something i can't confirm or deny. all i can tell you, human nature, being what it, is you can never entirely confirmed another human being, and tell them what to do and not to do. that was certainly the case for the mexican guy. >> do the russians have a typical m.o. for trying to kill somebody and a targeted assassination? i mean, we have seen poisonings over the years in europe? >> yes, they do have a number of different almost. it is kind of scary, because they have been doing it for a long time.
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i mean, coincidentally, one of the more famous cases was when -- was assassinated in mexico city by a kremlin assassin. >> that was -- wasn't that an ice pick in his head? >> yes, it wasn't i speak in his, had that is right. but you know, if you fast forward to these issues passed, recently, it hasn't been less bruce them. you have him putting poison in navalny's underwear. you have them putting -- in -- tea. you have them using a nerve agent for -- in the uk. that was he -- got our attention, they can do in the uk. but yeah, these memos that they have, they have developed over the, years they have large resources put up against this. either publicly, or privately. >> steve, all appreciated, thank you. just ahead, that green taught you are about to see is lightning captured by a spacecraft hundreds of millions of miles -- we will tell you where next.
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the photo was actually taken almost two and a half years ago. nasa posted these images online for anyone to develop, in this case -- took it upon himself to develop the final images you see here. nasa says, in the future, it will have more opportunities for photos of, lightning plus get near jupiter's rings to learn more about their origin, and their composition. that is it for, us news continues on cnn prime time with kaitlan collins starts now. see you tomorrow. >> tonight, five people are missing out, see and that is the best-case scenario. the worst is that they are lost. 13,000 feet below the ocean's surface. south of newfoundland, canada, either way assuming the submersible remains intact, and assuming they are still alive, the crew and its passengers aboard the kind tiny ocean gate titan are sealed inside, with limited oxygen supply that