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60, more sounds from under the seat, as the race to find the titan submersible grows more urgent by the hour. we'll show you what it's like inside the tighten, and talk to someone who raised doubts about its safety. an exclusive cnn reporting from the front lines of, ukraine showing just how difficult the counter offensive underway has been. good evening, we begin tonight with the most urgent deadline there is, for the five people you see here aboard the ocean gate titan somersville, cussing somewhere in the north atlantic on the way to the wreck of the titanic. british businessmen hamish harding, british pakistani businessman shahzada dawood, and his teenage son, suleman, french maritime explore paul-henri nargeolet, and ocean gate founder stockton rush, they are now the subject of a multinational search involving military and civilian ships, aircraft, an expertise, which grew larger in size, capability today. the question is, is it enough, and do they have time? this is new video from a canadian air force plane

normally used to hunt military subs. the entire effort is running on hope that underwater sounds, which we heard again today, are coming from the titan. but it's also running up against these subs limited oxygen supply, in the possibility that locating a vessel the size of a large car in an area twice the size of connecticut. it will simply take more time than they have. cnn's jason carroll is in boston for us. for some of the coast guard searchers are based. jason, what's the latest? >> well, the u.s. coast guard says that they are in close contact with family members. as you can imagine, anderson, the wait for them is agonizing. those sounds, those underwater sounds that have been detected, have offered them some hope. but time is running very, very short. >> when you're in the middle of a search and rescue case, you always have hope. that's why we're doing what we do. >> with what could be less than 24 hours of oxygen left on board tighten, hope at this

point may rest on noises detected by sonar. the coast guard revealed more noises were picked up this morning, after a canadian aircraft dropped a soon are buoy. >> with respect to the noises specifically, we don't know what they are, to be frank with you. the p three detected noises, that's why they're up there, that's why they're doing what they're doing, that's why the sonar buoys in the water. >> the sounds are described as banging, and were first picked up by a canadian plane yesterday, and heard again today. all of the acoustic information sent to the u.s. navy for analysis. additional resources sent to search the area where the sounds were detected. the coast guard cautioned about drawing conclusions, before experts can weigh in. >> we moved assets, and were searching there. and will continue to do so. >> it is encouraging that there did seem to be a pattern to it. you know, we are going to continue to hold out hope. >> time is crucial, the rescue

window continues to shrink. >> we are very aware of the time sensitively around this mission. >> the vessel was headed to view the titanic wreck that sits nearly 13,000 feet deep, but lost contact on sunday just one hour and 45 minutes into its descent. five on board, including oceangate ceo and founder, stockton rush. >> i would like to be remembered as an innovator. and i think those general mcarthur that said you are remembered for the rules you break. and you know, i have broken some rules to make this, i think i've broken them with logic and good engineering behind me. >> now, questions surrounding the safety of the vessel, which is not inspected and classed by in a group -- independent group that set safety standards. most chartered vessels are carefully inspected, reviewed, and then classed. oceangate argues that the titan is not due to the technology being so new, that it's not incorporated into-ing existing standards.

two former employees of ocean gate separately brought up safety concerns about the vessel, and the thickness of tightens hall. there was additional testing since the time the employees left the company, in 2017 and 2018, so, it's unclear if their concerns were addressed. >> and jason, what more do you know about those banging, sounds what they could mean? >> well, anderson, that was one of the questions that i put to the captain of the u.s. coast guard here earlier today, specifically, what more can they tell us, what specifics can they tell us about those sounds? because the reality is, the ocean is a noisy place. i mean, these sounds could be anything from wreckage from the titanic shifting, it could be sea life, it could be other vessels that are in the area. that is why the acoustic information, all that data they've gathered, has been taken to the u.s. navy. so, they are experts and can

try determine exactly what it is. but again, the time is running out, that is the bottom line here. >> jason carroll, appreciate. it the missing sub is trapped at the bottom of the ocean, it could be an water many times deeper than rescue efforts, successfully not before. cnn's tom foreman joins us now, with more on some of the challenges involved. tom, there are huge challenges obviously. we don't know how deep this vessel was when contact was lost, or where the currents may have taken it, but just put into perspective for us how deep down this vessel may have gone. >> you know, this is an area that is just so incredibly forbidding, and so terribly deep. in comparison, they're statue of liberty, eiffel tower, mount fuji, grand canyon, it's important to bear in mind, before you get to the titanic here, this is roughly where the deepest underwater rescue effort occurred in 1973, at that level. this is roughly where nuclear subs operate. so, this gives you an idea of

how forbidding it is and a three dimensional environment, anderson. you are right, we have no idea where it might have gone since being up here on the surface. >> i mean, it is incredible when you see, when you put it in perspective like that. the different types of vessels that have been called in to help, obviously, there's air assets, there sea assets. >> yes, absolutely. and right now, those that are on the surface, polar prince was the launching vessel for this. these, and many of the things in the air, they -- their best skill is compete searching up above. jason mentioned -- looking for some areas. well, we showed you, the regulars submarines, way up higher up there. really important at this point in the equation, things like these probes that could drop down a lower, much lower and give a sense of what's happening on the bottom. but in the search for the malaysian airplane, they're using things like this, and it's a tremendous job to try and cover all of that space down there. if they can find something, then they will turn to a robotic vehicle like this that

will be able to go down and possibly attach a line to it to bring it back up. but again, huge, huge job that absolutely takes hours an hours. it's what they don't have much of. left >> that robotic vehicle they just circled, i think that's from a french ship that's headed to the area. but to your earlier point, it only goes down to, i mean, 6000 feet, is that the limit to where it goes down? >> right, that's the problem with so much of this, there are very difficult challenges to even get near this thing. one engineer i had spoken to at one point said he thought the only way to raise it would be to try and get some buoyancy on it using robots that can go down lower and attach that way. but all of this takes so much time, and there's so many possible failures. i mentioned that earlier deepest rescue ever, they were on scene for many hours. and the people were in the water that much lower level for more than 80 hours before they

were rescued, and they had full communications the whole time, and they knew where they were for most of the time. that's very different from what we're dealing with here. so, even if they find what they're looking for here, could be a huge challenge. >> what do we know about the interior of the submersible itself? >> the interior of the submersible is really interesting, because all cv can get this to come up here at this moment, if you look at the inside of this sub-here, it's, you know, fairly large in a way, if you include everything involved, but not gigantic, five people, they're pretty close together. they cannot really move around a lot inside there, and life support for 96 hours for the entire crew, that's a give or take thank, to pentagon how much they regulate their breathing, how much they control things. but the bottom line is that you can see they're all fitted together in a small space here anderson, no matter what's happening, this is not comfortable and it would be a very anxious time and very difficult for these folks, so close together. >> yeah, it's just sickening to think about this, as the hours go by.

tom, appreciate it. once again, we have the perspective of -- , who himself has been involved with two missions attempting to reach the titanic. pair, how optimistic are you that these banging noises could've come from this missing submersible? >> i'm extremely confident, not one hunted percent sure, of course, but very confident that these banging noises come from the submersible for several reasons. first and foremost, because there are not that many banging noises like that in the middle of the atlantic. it is in a very remote place, 700 kilometers from newfoundland, where the titanic lies. that's one. number two, the noises came, as we understand it, on the half hour and on the hour, i.e., with 30 minute segments in between them, signaling that there clearly is a human watch behind it. it's quite inconceivable that nature would be so perfectly attuned to send banging noises

on the half hour. in fact, it is common practice within naval distress situations that you bang on the hour and on the half hour. and the reason you do that, is you allow three minutes of banging to make sure that people know that you are there, you're in distress, and then another 27 minutes to be quiet, so that the expedition looking to find you can identify you and it's quiet around you. and then on the third minute, you are banging again. it's common practice within naval -- and you do have on board the french navy person, but paul-henri nargeolet, and he would know that. >> it's interesting, i had not consider that, the idea that banging on the top and a half of each hour, which is not a natural occurring cycle in nature, it would indicate that there is an idea, that there is

a human behind that, or an intention behind that banging that is not just some sort of ocean noise that be occurring every 30 minutes. >> no, exactly, imagine how unlikely it would be that nature, precisely on the half hour, it would do that banging noise. it's pretty much inconceivable. therefore, i think we have a very high degree of confidence that those banging noises come from the submersible. that was actually the good news island to day, that they are there, they're most likely alive, and we have a fighting chance. so, that's good news. >> so, if the people on board have less than a days worth of oxygen left, are there things they can do to try to stretch that supply out? i mean, obviously, you're trying to remain calm, i got sleeping, in order to reduce the amount of, you know, breath you're taking. but is that all that somebody can do? >> absolutely. that is what you can do. take it easy, don't stress, don't panic, use as little

energy as you can -- >> which is obviously easier said than done in the situation. it would be hard not to be freaked out -- >> absolutely, absolutely, anybody in that situation would be horrified and panicking. but the good news is, people like hamish harding, who's on board, who is a very experienced adventure, explore, he would be calm under stress. he has been under stress before. i know he went to the south pole with one of my friends, and with buzz aldrin, so, he's been an extreme situation before. and there were some problems that happened on that expedition as well. so, he would have the calm, and therefore the confidence that he's a good player to have on board. stockton, as well, experienced explore as well, will also help fully keep the calm. but having said that, one thing is the oxygen side of things, and also the co2 that is being

breathed in, that people are breathing out. and there comes a point, obviously, where there will be too much co2, and too little oxygen, effectively. so, it is really a race against time. and something close to a -- i wouldn't say a miracle or something, but will have to happen pretty soon. because we are really, really running a tight rope here. ideally, the submersible would start to come up by itself. >> so, unless that vehicle can somehow surface on its own, i mean, that is where, that's where the who really still lies. that is obviously the best-case scenario, for the vehicle to be able to service on its own somehow, even though it seems it's not been able to do that. because all of this, the aerial searching, the all of which is important, because not only placing sonar devices, which is why we know about the banging sounds, but also in case this vehicle has surfaced, it's critical to get to that vehicle, even though it surfaced. because the people inside can't

get out until it's actually recovered. >> yeah, that's correct. however, with all the airplanes in the air there at the moment, and provided that the weather is okay or decent, one should be able to locate the submersible, should it come up to the surface, hopefully relatively quickly. >> we appreciate your time tonight, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> coming up next, the safety issues surrounding the ocean and the titans, we'll talk with explore josh gates, and his concerns after a test time on. and we'll talk with adam schiff and his conversation with special counsel john durham over the -- investigation today, and the republican vote tonight to censure congressman schiff for his role in it. it. can i still play? since we work with emower, we don't have to worry about planning for a third kid. you can still play golf... sometimes. take control of your financial future to empower what's next.

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>> it was one thing that any trip by humans to the bottom of the ocean tears constable risk. there are not many submersible vehicles that can even reach the depth where the titanic lies. that said, and it's jason carroll touched on in his report, there are specific questions about this specific vessel. in a moment, someone who took a test dive on it came back with questions of his own. but first, cnn gabe cohen. >> we are all in a position right now, saying what could we have done? >> will cohen, remembering back to 2018, when he said he penned a letter, first obtained by the new york times, two oceangate ceo stockton rush, warning what he called the company's

experimental approach could have serious consequences. >> this is an extremely difficult situation to be in. >> conan, who heads the submarine committee of the marine technology society, was concerned that oceangate wasn't following the same safety standards as other vessels, because the titan hadn't gone through independent testing and wasn't certified by an industry group, which he says isn't required to dive in international waters, but is an industry standard. >> there are -- 12,000 feet in deeper. out of those ten, all of them are certified, except the oceangate submersible. >> you believe this expedition would be too dangerous without being certified? >> yes. >> he says he spoke to stockton rush, and voice those concerns. >> we agreed to disagree. many of us do feel it may have been preventable if the vehicle had been certified. >> in a 2019 blog post,

oceangate defended the company's decision, saying certifying titan could take years and stifle innovation. and while they use those standards as a benchmark in the past, quote, by itself classing is not sufficient to ensure safety. >> plexiglass. >> rush, who's one of the missing crew, has touted his maverick approach to innovation. >> you know, i've broken some rules don't make this. i've broken them with logic and good engineering by me, carbon fiber titanium, there is a reason you don't do that, well, i did. it's picking the rules that you break that we'll add values to others and society. >> but that approach drew criticism from some of the zones staff. cnn has learned two former oceangate employees, neither of whom are engineers, raised safety concerns when titan was built. and a counter lawsuit, one claimed oceangate hadn't performed adequate testing on the titan's hold to check it structure, and the others told cnn he was concerned when that carbon fiber hole arrived and was only five inches six,

rather than seven inches, as he says the company had assured. both said their concerns were dismissed by russia oceangate management. and the company faced lawsuits in recent years, seeking to recoup payments from those who had hoped to go on titanic excursions, after several equipment or weather issues caused the trips to be delayed. as the frantic search intensifies, kohnen says there's one component he wishes were on the vessel, a working beacon. >> it would be making a huge difference if it had a beacon, so that someone could direct themselves and that direction. >> and anderson, cnn has reached out to oceangate about these various claims. so far, they've declined to comment. anderson? >> gabe cohen, thanks so much. so, those are some safety concerns. we're joined now by someone who might have a chance to assess those risks himself firsthand, after a test dive with oceangate on the titan. josh gates, he's the host of -- on our sister channel discovery. josh, thanks for being with us. i want to talk expensive

tighten, but first, i just want to know what's going through your mind over these past few days, having been on this thing, watching this. >> it's been very surreal and a haunting. you know, i spent quite a bit of time with stockton and quite a bit of time at the ocean gate headquarters up in everett, washington. and i took a dive on site as they're putting it through its paces to get ready for the initial titanic missions in 2021. so, having spent time on the, sub my mind reels to think about it. i know hamish courting is a board, i know, and he's a member of the explores club. so, it's obviously a very difficult challenging time. >> what was it like being inside the tightened back in 2021? >> you know, i think that the thing that people have to understand is how novel this vessel is. you know, there are, as we just said in the previous piece, there are very few submersible as that can reach titanic's depths. and all of, them with the exception of titan, are made in a much different way. there is a personnel sphere which is made of, held together

with titanium or steal. and titans pressure hole is completely different. it is made of carbon fiber. and carbon fiber, as you know, it's kind of this miracle polymer, as was in the boeing dreamliner, the air bus a 3:50. and with it comes this lightweight machine. and because it's more lightweight, it can be made bigger. so, when you see tighten up close, one of the things that really strikes me is that it is fairly large. it can hold more people, all the other vehicles that go down to titanic only hold two or three people. but because of this carbon fiber design on tighten, it can be made larger, and five people can go inside of it. so -- but with that innovation, with that novel design comes a really important trade-off, which is how much do we know about how this carbon fiber can perform at depth and in terms of the pressure in the temperatures and in terms of fatigue. and there just is not a lot of data out there about that. so, on one hand, you've this incredibly innovative, novel design. on the other hand, there are a

lot of unknowns. >> so, i assume that is is a business decision that this company made, because they wanted to be able to bring paying passengers who are paying a lot of money to come down, so you need an interior space that allows for, you know, several passengers. >> yeah. look, i think that's true. i also think it's true though that if you've ever been in any of these smaller submersible's, they are extremely claustrophobic. and you are really pinned in. and a trip down to the titanic as a fairly long expedition. i think one of the things that titan was also offering was the ability to just have a little more room, and not be in such a claustrophobic environment. so, i'm sure it was a business trip, but i also think that stockton really sought as an innovation in terms of the design of the south, and how roomy they could be. >> i understand, you are on titan because you want to perhaps do an episode of your show highlighting oceangate's technology, ultimately decide not to go forward with it. can you tell us why you made

that decision not to try it? >> yeah, you know, we are up there in 2021, so, this was just before the season where they were gonna bring the first passengers out to titanic. this is really a shakedown dive to see how the sub would perform. and we went up there really to see how we might film this. you know, we knew we'd only bail to put one camera operator inside the subway me, so, we are really interested and how to mount cameras and make things work. on the course of going out and tighten and diving down inside of it, it just became clear to us at that time that there was a lot that still need to be worked out with a sub. it had just come back from the east coast, where it undergone some pressure testing. it had just been rebuilt, effectively. and a lot of these systems worked, but a lot really did not. we had issues with the roster isn't issues with computer control and things like that. and ultimately, it was a challenging dive. we are inside titan for two or three hours. and there were a lot of things that were really ready for -- were not ready for primetime, it seemed. and beyond that, there are questions about the support vessel that is gonna be used

with tighten. they had not formalized the deal. and with questions about the timetable. as you know, making a television program, you need have some reliability of when this can happen and the window in which it might happen. ultimately, i just felt by the end of that trip that i just couldn't get comfortable with tighten at that time. i felt that it needed time to go out, and do missions, and kind of get into a groove, before we are going to go and film with it. it just was not for me. >> and this was supposed to have the ability to drop weight so that if something happens, it will naturally surface. are you aware of what those systems were that were in place at the time you are on it? >> yeah, a lot has been said about, i think, things that are not that important, video game controller and the simplicity of the cabin. there were a lot of other systems on board titan that offer real redundancies in terms of safety, and the weight system is one of them. there were effectively, at least to my understanding of 2021, there are four different ways which titan can shed way to come back to the service. there was first of all, a

computer controlled we released system that could release waits. there is also a manual valve system, we could turn a valve and actually inject air into exterior ballast containers and float it up to the surface. there was also a hydraulically controlled system that could drop awaits. and finally, if you look at titan, it sits on a kind of slide. that entire sled can be ditched manually, which takes a ton of weight of the vehicle and can help it back to the surface. so, you know, hypothetically, if there is an emergency aboard titan, there are a lot of systems to shed weight and bring the vehicle back to the surface. >> the question is, why hasn't come back to the service? and we simply don't know about that. josh gates, appreciate you being on, thank you. >> absolutely, thank you, anderson. >> still ahead, a look at other deep ocean search and rescue missions and what they tell us about the options ahead about saving those on board.

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>> as rescues race to get to the search site, the question remains about what they can do when they actually get there, even if they locate where the sub is underwater. you heard earlier, our guest talk about that, a rescue would

be incredibly challenging and complex, but it is not unheard of. here is randi kaye. >> a different ocean decades earlier, and a frantic search more than 1000 feet below the surface. it was 1973, and rescue teams are searching for a commercial submersible known as the pisces three. it disappeared off the coast of ireland. two british sailors, roger melanson and roger chapman, spent three days trapped in the vessel, which was about six feet in diameter. they had been laying transatlantic telephone cable when the rope connecting the submersible to the main ship snapped. they survived on a single sandwich and some extra oxygen they had on board. melanson spoke with sky news. >> -- before we started the dive, i stole a bottle of oxygen. and because we stole it, i'm still here. otherwise, were certain we would not be here.

>> the pisces iii was trapped one and 1500 feet below sea level, about -- off work island. the men inside avoided speaking to conserve. air rescues were able to locate the vessel by using sonar by making one of the sailors sing high notes. crews were finally able to bring the sub to the surface using a toe rope. by the time the men were freed, they had just 12 minutes of oxygen left. according to the guinness book of world records, it was the deepest water rescue ever. >> it took 85 hours to rescue us. >> about a decade earlier, officials lost contact with the uss thresher, hundreds of miles off the coast of cape cod. the nuclear attack submarine was doing deep diving tests when its communications became garbled. >> no sooner did the tender skylark reported something amiss, that navy search teams when it actually. was optimism at first. -- communication was faulty. with the hours, hope waned. >> 129 officers, crewmen, and

civilian technicians perished when the uss fresher sunk. what was left of the submarine was eventually located by other ships about 8400 feet below the surface. in 1939, the uss squall is summery centering attest dive off the coast of new hampshire. 26 people on board died immediately, but doesn't survived. >> a marker was spotted, and the navy put new rescue techniques and operation. ♪ ♪ ♪ a bell was attached to the sub, and 33 men of the 59 men crew were rescued. >> more than 30 crew members reportedly survived using smoke bombs and moore's code to single for health. >> you can see anything, that was sure. so, we don't do it moving around. we had battle -- like a big flashlight, hand lanterns they called it, electric. but they try to conserve those, because they didn't know how long we were going to be down. >> more recently in 2000, the

kursk, a russian nuclear submarine sank 350 feet below the surface during a training accident in the arctic circle. rescue missions failed due to high waves and strong winds. also, the hull of the sub had trouble attaching to the rescue vessel. >> there were very few chances for rescue, but some exist. >> in the end, all 118 sailors on board perished. it took months to pull the 18,000 ton vessel from the ocean floor and recover the bodies. randi kaye, cnn. >> as we mentioned, time and oxygen are both running low. for more, that would bring it dr. aileen marty, who's a retired navy physician who knows well the challenges at hand here. doctor, we appreciate you being with us. can you explain the impact of the dwindling oxygen supply, and also, carbon dioxide? >> that's right, and i'm glad you mentioned carbon dioxide, because obviously as they lose oxygen, the carbon dioxide

builds up. i don't know if the vessel has the capacity to extract that carbon dioxide, whether that submersible was built with that in mind. we also don't actually know what's going on right now. they may not be alive right now. there may have been a leak in that porthole. it might have been a catastrophic leak, in which case the individuals they may already have drowned, which is horrible. and if they are still alive and we're looking at dwindling octagon, the decrease in oxygen getting to the brain, and that increase in carbon dioxide is a very panicky situation. you feel your world closing in. it is like everything gets more narrow, like it's in a tunnel. and it is a horrific sensation that people get. they sense that they are dying. they cannot believe that they are losing their life in this horrific way. >> it's just horrible.

i was wondering about that earlier today, i mean, not to, you know, but -- one knows, you feel, you know you're dying, you feel like you're dying. >> you can't -- you sense that -- you become weaker, you become disoriented, you have lost a focus, and you have a loss of the ability to see. so, you lose the peripheral vision. it is a horrific way to die. >> do you then just pass out? >> eventually, they do pass out, yes. but before that, they go through this. and then, again, remember, we don't know if there was a fire on board that ship. no doubt, they have batteries, and batteries can, for a variety of reasons, malfunction. and if so, there may be carbon monoxide in the atmosphere of that submersible that would have already made the

individuals succumb. >> so, carbon monoxide, that's something we have not considered, that would come from batteries or -- >> having a fire, any kind of other secondary problems that may have happened on board. because right now, we have no communication. so, that's an indicator that something else may have led to the fact that we can't find the submersible. >> is there anything people can do to conserve their oxygen in the situation? obviously, i've read sleeping, which would seem hard to do in a situation like this, what all of the fear involved, and obviously not talking. >> well, it's also very cramped in there, which makes all five of them being able to sleep a very challenging. and the fear that you mentioned, that's a huge factor, because it leads to stress. the stress, in turn, is going to affect every organ in the body. and anyone with a sensitive heart can then have a heart attack because of this

situation of low oxygen and stress. so, there is a lot that is going on in that little tiny submersible right now. >> all right, doctor aileen marty, appreciate you being with us right now. >> my pleasure. >> coming up, democratic congressman adam schiff was censured today. it's the only time -- it's only the third time a u.s. congressman has been censured. the congressman loudly chanted shame at house republicans in response. congressman schiff joins me, next. goodnight! and bethany... [guhhnnaaaghh] identical twins. both struggle with cpap for their sleep apnea. but stephanie got inspire. an implanted device that works inside the body to help her sleep. unlike her sister. there's more than one way to treat your sleep apnea.

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>> breaking news, just over an hour ago, fully the third of the century, a member of congress is censored. democratic congressman adam shift and partisan vote led by the majority of republicans. >> the yays are 213 and the nays are 209, with 6 answering present, the resolution adopted without objection, the motion is considered on the table. the house will be in order -- [crowd chanting] >> in the background there, you can hear democrats in the chamber shouting shame and later disgrace.

we're joined by congressman adam shift. thank you for joining me. what is your response to the censorship? >> it's a badge of honor, as roosevelt said it is time, sometimes, you can judge a person by the enemies they make. and this was a maga resolution that donald trump there and if any republican voted against, as many have last week, that they would be subject to a primary challenge. this is basically trump and maga world going after someone that they think is effective and standing up to them. i feel like i've earned their opposition, and proud to stand with all my democratic colleagues and oppose this flagrant abuse of the house process. >> do you have any regrets on how you handled the russia issue? obviously, the former president was implicated in anything involved with russia? >> not at all, i think the investigation of the misconduct was important. it ultimately led to his impeachment, which i was proud

to lead, and it led to the first bipartisan vote to remove a u.s. president in history. i was proud to serve for the january six committee. and i would do all of that again and do it the same way, but what is really the offense here is that it was effective at holding him to account. and if the need or to arrive again, god help us if it does, i would do it all over again. >> the special counsel john durham also testified before the house judiciary committee, something that you were a big part of. i want to play the exchange with him that you asked about a june 2016 meeting between donald trump jr. and a russian lawyer to get damaging information on the presidential candidate hillary clinton. >> and you think it's significant that he had a meeting with the russian delegation with the purpose of getting dirt on hillary clinton, and the only disappointment expressed at the meeting is that the third that they got was not better. you don't think that is

significant? >> i don't think that was a well advised thing to do. >> oh, not well advised? wow, that is the understatement of the year. so you think it is perfectly appropriate or maybe just ill advised for a presidential campaign to seek a meeting with a russian delegation to get their on their program. you would say that is inadvisable? >> if you ask me if i would do it, i hope that i would not do it, but it was not illegal. it's stupid, foolish, ill-advised. >> you clearly don't agree with mr. durham's description. >> well, what was fascinating about the hearing today was the degree to which it revealed both his ignorance of a lot of what is in the mueller report but also the degree to which she is a biased actor. there, you saw him try to downplay the significance of the president, former presidents son, arranging a secret meeting in trump tower to receive what has been represented to him as derogatory information about hillary clinton, that was part of the russians government

efforts to elect donald trump. that's how it was represented to him. he was happy to accept it. he was disappointed in the meeting, as we're others and the trump campaign, where what they got was not more valuable. to see the special counsel talk nothing about the danger of russian interference on elections and downplay seeking help for foreign power revealed a lot about his bias. >> it was interesting to see how during the hearing, both democrats and republicans at times seemed equally unhappy with term for different reasons. congressman matt gaetz was calling there him, quote, part of the cover-up. i wonder what you made of the gop response to his testimony. . >> the matt gaetz is, donald trump and others are deeply disappointed because this was a four-year investigation that was supposed to cover this deep state conspiracy. biden was supposed to be

indicted. clinton was supposed to be indicted, got no who else. of course, not at that materialize. the most that they were able to come up was that he believed's opinion, the fbi was justified and opening up a preliminary investigation but not a full investigation. that was it. talk about eight nothing burger. the two cases he brought to trial, they lost. the defendants were acquitted in a matter of hours, and so, yes, i think the maga world was deeply upset with the. they tried to put the best spin on it that they can, but compared to the expectations that they set and was a delivered, they are deeply upset with him. >> congressman adam schiff, i appreciate you joining us, thank you. >> thank you. >> just ahead, as ukraine claims more gains and it's counter offensive, cnn's ben wedeman takes a trip to the recently liberated villages in southern ukraine. what he saw next. what if we live to 100. i don't want to outlive our money. i keep eating all these chia seeds. i could live to be 100. we work with empower, even if we do live to 100 we don't have to worry.

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officials say a brutal and slow counteroffensive is pushing forward. top military leaders today claimed advances in the south saying that russian forces are andy defensive around the zaporizhzhia and arson regions. this comes as fighting continues in eastern ukraine. ukraine's military said today that russia conducted several what they called unsuccessful offensives around their. cnn's ben wedeman went to a village in ukraine recently liberated from the russians. we want to say that some of the images that you are about to see are disturbing. >> an unknown russian soldier lost his life here on a dirt road in this small village of neskuchne. he was killed in ukraine's counteroffensive, which has at best so far, put a small dent in russian lines, hardly the turning point so many had hoped for. >> this is one at the villages that was liberated by the ukrainians, this one on the

10th of june. clearly, the russians were in a hurry, they left behind this blood soaked stretcher. >> it's still too dangerous for civilians to return to these once tranquil farming communities, and there is not much left for them to return to. the murder crew of the 35th marine brigade has moved into a house recently vacated by russian troops. this afternoon, they are busy piling up newly arrived american made shelves, far better than the old soviet ammunition, says andre. >> amazing, they are just a great, he says. they hit the bulls eye, my favorite. throughout the day, shelling echoes around them. the russians may have left the village, yet they are still nearby. yeas mortar trading imprint did not prepare him for the front.

this is only his third day in the line of fire. >> there are moments when i wanted to hide, he says, but i have to stay put and wait. unit commander alexander takes coordinates from headquarters. his men make the adjustments and prepare the rounds. >> they are firing these rounds at russian lines, which are four kilometers, two and a half miles away. [sound of artillery] >> it's going to be a long, hot summer. >> ben wedeman joins us now. ben, what are ukrainian authorities saying about the progress of the counter offensive so far? >> well, what we heard today is actually president zelenskyy saying that progress has been slower than expected. he set in an interview that this is not a hollywood movie,

and things don't happen just now. what is clear is things are difficult. when we were up at the front today, what we heard from the soldiers is that even when they are able to force russian troops to retreat, they oftentimes come under intense artillery from the russians. the russians have throughout this war really used their superiority and the sheer number of artillery pieces that they have to really unleash these punishing barrages. there were high expectations before the offensive began, that it would be similar to what we saw last year in september in the kharkiv region, where the ukrainians and just about two weeks took an incredible amount of territory, more than 4600 square miles. this time, the going is much more difficult and much slower, anderson? >> ben wedeman and ukraine for us tonight, thank you so much,

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