mandated testimony. so we'll watch that as well. and i know you will too. thank you. nice to see you. >> thank you. we're getting another look at the new barbie movie that brings the famous doll to life. >> basically everything that men do in your world women do in ours. >> barbie is a doctor, a lawyer and so much more than that. >> warner brothers which produced the movie and cnn are part of warner brothers discovery. the new trailer gives us a look at the characters featured in the film. very pink. thanks for joining me. i'm christine romans. "cnn this morning" starts right now. well, good morning, everyone. so glad you're with us this morning. so happy to have phil back by my side. how are you doing? >> i'm good. how are you? >> we're glad to have you back. we've been following this news all week hoping for some rays of

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♪ they tell me that was harry belafonte. >> because you were thinking of the lil wayne song. >> because i know everything about lil wayne. we will get to the nba draft in a minute. we begin with this breaking news that we've been following all week here. this morning the continuing search for that missing sub near the "titanic" shipwreck is entering a dire state this morning. at this point it is feared that the five people onboard may have little to no breathable air left. but more banging sounds were detected yesterday. the coast guard, though, has not been able to find exactly where they're coming from or determine if they are even from this submersible. this is video of the canadian surveillance plane that has been dropping those sonar probes into the ocean and listening for any signs of the sub.

more ships with that equipment have been racing to join the search as the window for survival is closing. that includes this ship "the horizon arctic," which has been loaded with u.s. military remotely operated vehicle. the u.s. navy's deep sea salvage system has also arrived in newfoundland and can retrieve objects deeper than the "titanic." it's not clear when it will reach the search area. oceangate and its ceo, who is now missing on the titan submersible, are coming under more scrutiny. a former subcontractor says the construction materials and design choices were considered controversial and experimental. >> the pressure hull itself on titan is made primarily out of carbon fiber. carbon fiber is a completely untested material in this application. and that has been many

late-night discussions. >> we begin our coverage with paula newton who joins us from halifax, nova scotia. paula, in watching this, the ceo talked about how they worked with nasa and with boeing and the university of washington to create this. but now there are more and more questions about just how it was created and how safe it is. >> reporter: yeah, and especially now given all that's happened, poppy, i will say this is a submersible stockton rush said there were a lot of redundancies and that's what you want built into a system like that. one was the capacity to actually rise to the surface. what they've got on their hand today, poppy, is the best shot yet of either finding the submersible or being able to understand what those noises are all about. there are several ships out there now. as you just outlined also equipment that will be able to delve deep into those seas and

see exactly what happened to the titan. >> when you're in the middle of a search and rescue case, you always have hope. >> reporter: hope is running out against a dwindling oxygen supply. >> confident these banging noises are coming from the submersible. >> reporter: it also rests on the indistinct banging noise detected by sonar. >> the noises were heard by a canadian p-3. >> reporter: the u.s. coast guard disclosed noises picked up by sonar tuesday and wednesday during the search following the deployment of a sonar buoy by a canadian aircraft. >> i can't tell you what the noises are. what i can tell you, and i think this is the most important point, we're searching where the noises are and that's all we can do at this point. >> reporter: acoustic information sent to the u.s. navy is inconclusive. >> we're aware of the time sensitivity. >> reporter: the search area has expanded to twice the size of conne

connecticut and up to two and a half miles deep to join the around the clock aerial and below the surface search. >> we need to go full speed and find that submarine. >> reporter: the sub was en route to explore the "titanic" wreckage on sunday but lost communication about one hour and 45 minutes into its descent. five passengers were onboard including oceangate founder and ceo stockton rush. who is now facing criticism for the engineering of the sub. >> i've broken some rules to make this. i think i've broken them with logic and good engineering behind me, the carbon fiber. >> reporter: they raise safety concerns about the thickness and integrity of the submersible's hull. one employee was fired. he sued for wrongful termination. the other resigned. the lawsuit was settled out of court and oceangate said it conducted further testing on the

sub. cnn has continually reached out to oceangate expeditions to get more information on that. obviously everyone is hoping that the integrity of this submersible will last and be able to help those five passengers survive. i want to point out a couple things, poppy. those noises, right, that was from a canadian surveillance aircraft that takes off about an hour and a half from here in greenwood. they started to hear those noises as early as tuesday and that is what gave them a lot of hope for them to continually run that surveillance, as i said, a lot more help out of the scene as well for them to hopefully move from what the u.s. navy says are noises that are inconclusive and move to something more concrete, right, to give them more of an opportunity to find out what the noises are and hopefully launch more of a rescue. poppy? >> certainly. let's hope so. paula newton, thank you for the reporting.

>> so it's important to put this in perspective. i had no concept of what was happening. i'm not super well versed other than what you watch in movies, just how deep down is this missing submersible. keep this in mind the world record for the deepest scuba dive 1,090 feet. 3,200 feet things get pretty dark. there's no longer light. further down at 5,200 feet there isn't much marine life at all. most animals can't even survive at those depths. 10,000 feet below the surface is the deepest a sperm whale can dive. the average depth of the ocean is an average of 12,000 feet, and that's about where the "titanic" shipwreck is. that's 2.4 miles below the water's surface. let's bring in oceanographer and deep sea explorer who you saw in the piece, a senior adviser for rms titanic incorporated which owns the salvage rights to the "titanic" wreck site. david, you were mentioning in the piece full speed, everything

you can resources wise, to try and find and then start a rescue operation here. given the clock that i think everybody is eyeing warily and with significant trepidation right now, what do you think the chances are that something can actually end up positive in this? >> well, we need a miracle, phil, and i think the good news is miracles can happen. the coast guard has done a very good job in putting the right tools with the right team in the right spot so the chances are as good as they can be and, in fact, the chances are getting better as more and more material talent shows up. as i said in the piece, i think we have to not think about the clock all the time and go as fast as possible no matter what, locate the sounds and get some equipment to see if we can see what the sounds are coming from. >> you would think having the sounds every 30 minutes they were hearing banging and that

was a data point and would help them triangulate where the sub could be, but we've learned overnight the search area has expanded. remember it was first the size of connecticut, and now it is twice the size of connecticut. why would it expand and not narrow if they're focusing on the sounds? >> poppy, the expanding area is the aerial search, looking down on the surface of the water for anything that may be floating and we're looking at the underwater search. and it's tough because the oceans are pitch black. you can only use sound to image effectively and you have to be pretty much on top of the object to actually see it. i do wonder about the tapping because p.r. nargeolet will make sure it's not interpreted as anything other than human. i'm curious what the tapping pattern really is. >> when it comes to the sound and, again, you'll have to ignore my ignorance, i assumed

when people were picking up the sounds, coming in 30-minute increments, it gave a positive feel in a situation which obviously didn't have a lot of that. okay, this is only a matter of time. the experts are there. they'll figure this out and identify it very quickly. that's not actually the case, and that's not a surprise, to some degree. why? >> the oceans are deep, as you pointed out, two miles deep, dark, incredible pressure, and you have to have enough tools in the right spot to be able to make that determination. we have really no idea how small that area is where the sound is coming from, so we'll have to wait to see. and they're probably being extra special careful not to say it's definitely the submarine until they know. >> can we talk about the material the sub is made of? our viewers saw in paula newton's reporting the ceo saying essentially i broke some rules in making this.

he mentioned, i believe, carbon fiber and titanium, that you're not supposed to use those or combine them in a sub, is that right? what do you know about this? >> carbon fiber is very new for that application. it's much lighter and much stronger than either steel or titanium and it's spun. i don't exactly know how it works except the idea is lighter and stronger, and then titanium is metal and solid, a solid piece. so there would be some differences in stress from the cold and the like. so typically you wouldn't want to do that. you would want one smooth type of material. stockton did make a point almost every time he was in front of a microphone to say this was very innovative, new design. everyone in the community said this is very interesting. it could be exciting but definitely a very interesting concept. >> certainly something everybody will be looking into going

forward. we hope for the best. david gallo, appreciate your time. we are seeing also this morning the deadly devastation that a tornado left behind in texas. it touched down in the small west texas town of matador leveling buildings, leaving behind piles of debris. the storm killed at least three people overnight. rosa flores joins us. another tornado, more deaths. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, with daylight, poppy, officials will be able to get a better sense of the devastation there. for now we do have drone video. take a look this is matador, texas. it is northeast of lubbock. the population there is about 600, and this tornado hit at about 8:00 last night local time. and in that drone footage you can see some of the destruction and devastation, structures that are now debris, also an rv turned on its side. officials say three people have

died and that others are injured. the mayor there says he lost three businesses. his home, though, is okay. his family is okay. the mayor pro tem's home is completely gone. lubbock fire rescue are assisting in that response. now this was one of about ten tornadoes that happened in the region. at this hour nearly 200,000 customers in the states of texas, louisiana and oklahoma are without power. and, poppy, there are more severe storms expected today, so the threat is ongoing. >> we just had you on the beach earlier this week talking about these record extreme temperatures, so there has been no relief in the weather pattern for people across texas. rosa, thank you. also this morning justice samuel alito facing questions about ethics and transparency after a new report details his luxury trips paid for by a hedge fund manager. plus --

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213 and the nays are 209 with 6 answering present. the resolution adopted. without objection the motion to consider is on the table. the house will be in order. >> shame! shame! shame! >> the house, as poppy noted, not in order. those were house democrats gathered together shouting shame after house speaker kevin mccarthy announced the vote to censure adam schiff. now this is why i think the context matters. it's only the third time this century that a member of congress has been censured. members of the freedom caucus led the charge to punish schiff for his role in investigating donald trump during the last four, five, six years. censure resolution alleges that schiff misled the american public by spreading false accusations that the trump campaign colluded with russia. joining us to discuss is the author of the very serious newsletter, both the title and the reality of that newsletter --

>> and the man -- >> and the man himself, the one and only, josh barro. >> you can still drink your water. >> here is what i'm struck by as somebody who covered the house for more than a decade. censure used to be a bridge way too far. only the most serious -- and it was a massive, massive issue, massive news element, leadership never wanted to go that far unless they absolutely had to. yesterday felt a little bit like, eh, why? >> it has no force of law this is a statement by 213 members of the u.s. house of representatives that they disapprove of what adam schiff did and he did a bad thing. it's a political statement that is not that different from going on television and saying that, you know, and raising these objections to adam schiff. it was a norm of the institution that they didn't do this very much. once that norm has changed and once you have this extreme acrimony there and adam schiff has been particularly driving

republicans crazy. a lot of them think he has been leaking stuff to the media through this process. i think it was an heexpression that animosity. there's no consequence to adam schiff. they removed him from the committee. >> it's indicative of what they choose to spend their time and energy on, et cetera. is it censure today, impeachment tomorrow? mccarthy had to fight off calls from people like congresswoman boebert. here is what it was. >> to prematurely bring something up like that, no background in it, it undercuts what we're doing this is one of the most part things a member of congress has a right to do and to take it in a flippant way and put something flippant on the floor like that.

>> he's talking about calls to impeach the president, joe biden. our analysis is interesting because he quotes kevin mccarthy as asking of those who want to see impeachment what majority do we want to be? give it right back in two years or hold it for a decade and make real change? given all the concessions he made as speaker, it shows his vulnerability. >> he cited that history, taking the majority five times and twice we gave it back in two years. that was in 1948 and 1954. pretty long ago histories. indicative of how the house is spending its time, we have a divided congress and there's a democratic president, so they needed to raise the debt limit. they will need to pass government funding bills sometime probably before the end of the calendar year. the fiscal year runs out end of september. other than that there isn't a large, robust policy agenda to

be passed through both houses of congress. the senate has lots of nominations to act on. it can confirm judges and members of the cabinet. the house has a lot of time that it can't really do very much with other than political messaging. republicans are deciding among passing pieces of legislation that won't become law or passing statements like this censure that don't have the force of law. partly why they spend time on this is their opportunity cost is not that high. they have free time because they're not otherwise going to achieve that much this year. >> they apparently loathe adam schiff so much they're trying to ensure he's a u.s. senator to some degree. >> this will raise him a ton of money. >> he's fund-raising. >> weird dynamics. congress has this top two system and there's a fairly high likelihood there will be an election between two democrats, adam schiff and katie porter. katie porter is to the left of

adam schiff substantively on issues. dianne feinstein was elected in 2018 running against a candidate to her left but that candidate was less familiar to republicans than feinstein herself and he picked up a lot of republican votes from people trying to vote for not dianne feinstein. i think you could have a weird dynamic in an election in california where you could have a candidate run to schiff's left, pick up progressive votes and republican votes from people who don't know a lot about katie porter but know they hate adam schiff from all of this coverage. schiff wants to run against a republican in the general election. he might get that. in terms of the idea this might make him a senator, it's not clear that's true. then maybe they've made katie porter a senator. i don't know republicans are doing any better defeating adam schiff and getting someone farther to his left elected to the senate. >> kind of destroyed my flippant analysis based on democratic aides. that's not cool, man. >> i apologize. >> we have to close with the most important issue of

yesterday. >> yes. >> and that was the visceral verbal battle between representative marjorie taylor greene, republican of georgia, and lauren boebert of colorado. i believe -- you can see it. you're watching it. this was a fight that happened. "the daily beast" broke the news on what was said. marjorie taylor greene calling her republican colleague a little expletive, which greene's team later confirmed. >> yes. >> and seemed to be quite proud of to some degree. >> yeah. >> these are two back bench members of congress. what happened here was procedural and completely unserious. and yet -- >> it sort of reflects the purpose for which many of these members on the right wing are in congress more to draw attention to themselves than to make policy, arguing who would have responsibility for this resolution to impeach joe biden which is not going to pass the

house let alone the senate, and marjorie taylor greene has had a number of these resolutions drafted. lauren boebert had the idea i can bring this up as a privileged resolution even if the speaker doesn't want to bring it to a floor vote. and marjorie taylor greene was mad she didn't think of this first or, more likely, she wanted to be so outrageous because she has a real relationship with republican leadership in a way boebert doesn't. boebert stole my idea, getting attention off my idea, what a little -- we can't say it aloud. >> there's an asterisk. we can say it but it's 6:25 in the morning. wow. >> he tried to pull me in with procedure there. did you see that? and i didn't bite. i wanted to talk about congressional -- >> thank you for not biting. >> i'm not going to. you're welcome, poppy. >> stick around, please. we appreciate it. the estimates growing more dire by the minute as the search

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we need to have hope, right? but i can't tell you what the noises are. but what i can tell you is, and i think this is the most important point, we're searching where the noises are and that's all we can do at this point. >> they are trying as hard as they can. in a race against time trying to find the missing submersible that set off on a mission to the "titanic" wreckage site off the coast of newfoundland. the titan began its nearly 13,000-foot descent but the vessel and its five person crew vanished in less than two hours. this is not the first time a mission to the "titanic" shipwreck has gone awry. 20 years ago science editor was sent on assignment all the way

down to the "titanic" in a submersible when he got stuck. >> i felt a little bit of a boom, didn't you? >> yeah. >> oh, my gosh. >> look at the side. >> are we stuck or what? >> reporter: we appear to be wedged alongside the propeller beneath the wreck of the upside-down stern. >> luckily there was a three-person crew and they were able to break free, a moment captured and camera. watch this. >> reporter: after half an hour victor's piloting skills and cool-headed attitude win the day. we're out? >> joining us now is the scientist, the journalist and au author. thank you for being with us. when i read your account i was so shocked because you don't even like going under the water at all.

and so when you got this offer as a journalist at abc news you felt you had to take it because of what you felt you would see, and then you get stuck in the propeller. you have a perspective almost no one on earth has of what it is like to go down. can you tell us about that experience given what we're going through looking for this right now? >> yes. good morning. that's right. i have a deathly fear of water. when i was invited to be the first tv correspondent to report from the "titanic," my impulse was, oh, god, no. of all things i don't want to do that. but then i had to do my job. when we got stuck down there, two and a half miles beneath the surface, it was the sense of being buried alive under that much water. and i can't even begin to tell you how terrifying that is because when we first collided, there was just a sense of orientation. when you're driving and it's a

beautiful, sunny day, on top of the world, you're thinking everything is going great. and then suddenly, some other car comes out of nowhere and slams into you. there's that moment of confusion what just happened. once we realized this was a serious thing, the sub felt silent because neither i or my driving buddy wanted to disturb the pilot on the edge of his seat monitoring the situation, speaking in russian to the mothership above us. we thought, wow, how are we going to get out of this? my scientific brain started ticking off all the ways we could get out. you realize there is no way out. you're in the middle of the north atlantic at the bottom. you can't call aaa to tow you out. i experienced enormous sadness. the only way to describe it as if the weight of the ocean came down on me. i thought of my wife, we were

newlyweds. it was my anniversary. i ultimately experienced a sense of peace. all three these 72 hours thinking of these souls down there and i know what they're experiencing. i wonder if they're still alive. we're hearing noises, but we can't tell what those noises are. we're past the point where they're running out of oxygen. noise travels very well in water, much better than in the air, and we've been listening for it. it might just be a piece of metal or a part of the ship banging together. we may never know. we may never recover this vessel. >> let me ask, what are you -- a lot of people point to the people on the submersible and said some of them have a lot of

experience. they've done -- they would know what to do in a situation like this. you make a great point. there's nothing you can do to some degree when you are watching the captain of your ship operate, are there things he was prepared for, protocols or is it make noise and pray? >> when we were prepping for the dive, the captain put us through orientation and told us stories about people in that situation when they panic and immediately they want to go to the escape hatch which is, of course, a death sentence, because when you panic you're not thinking. so i knew that when we collided, that's the thing i didn't want to do. i wanted to make sure nobody else in the sub was and i would gang tackle anyone who even looked at that escape hatch.

for every problem there's an optimal solution. i've drummed that into my son's head for every problem there's an optimal solution. it is the most terrifying thing coming to the conclusion, no, there ain't a solution. there is no solution, period. there's just no one around, and i imagine that at some point in these five folks on the titan, they came to that realization. you could have all the experience in the world, but at the end of the day there's only so much you can do. no amount of technology, no number of planes, rovs, sonars, nothing, nothing can come to your rescue. if you're at the bottom of the ocean two and a half miles down, you don't just go down there and reach in even with a cable or grappling hook. pressures are enormous, bone crushing, it's cold down there.

i just feel -- i've been feeling for the last 72 hours this kinship. it's utterly dark, no light. you don't want to light a candle and use up the oxygen. this had to have been a catastrophic failure. >> dr. michael guillen, thank you for taking us into what they may be experiencing. we appreciate it. >> you're welcome. new reporting about justice samuel alito and another trip he made raising eyebrows because of who paid for it.

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welcome back. we have new cnn reporting this morning about supreme court justice samuel alito and a trip he made to rome last summer that was paid for by a religious liberty group that has submitted briefs before the court in support of significant cases. this comes after a report yesterday that alito went on a luxury fishing trip with conservative hedge fund manager who repeatedly asked the court to intervene on his behalf. alito did not disclose this trip

and did not recuse himself from singer's case before the court. joining us is a supreme court analyst. it's not uncommon for justices to travel overseas, to give speeches. this is different. >> that's right, poppy. good morning to you and phil. travel is basically good when they go speak to groups that can have a very educational element to it and even social travel up to alaska is not in and of itself bad. it's who is footing the bill and whether the expense ends up getting reimbursed and disclosed on the annual financial forms the justices disclose. there's no such thing as a free lunch, and there's probably no such thing as a free trip to an alaska fishing resort. our colleagues today have new reporting about a trip samuel alito took last year to rome in which the notre dame religious liberty initiative paid for

that. and that's a group that, as you say, when you refer to groups filing briefs, they submitted an amicus brief. it isn't a main party but someone who has a vested interest in it. they acknowledge paying for justice alito's trip to rome. he may end up disclosing that one. he has gotten an extension to file on his disclosure report but this is what he said when my colleague reached out to the supreme court to find out why he took this trip and, you know, if there was any kind of conflict taking the trip on the religious liberty initiative's dime. and what he said is my understanding is that the notre dame law school's religious liberty initiative has a number

of components. only one of which is the clinic, and the clinic is the group that submitted the brief. and he said like legal clinics of many law schools, it files amicus briefs to the supreme court and i was not invited to speak in rome by the clinic. he's drawing a line between the overall umbrella group and the clinic itself, but, poppy, the reason we're even talking about it today is because there has been incident after incident where it's been disclosed that first clarence thomas and now samuel alito taking trips and undermining public confidence in the court because of the lack of full disclosure. >> not to mention he spoke about the dobbs decision in that -- >> that's exactly right. >> in the speech supporting it to go the way the majority went. >> poppy, that was the first time he even spoke about the dobbs ruling was to that religious group. exactly right. >> joan, thank you.

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journal" and the u.s. government vehemently deny. to nic robertson with more on today's court hearing. nic? >> reporter: journalists were allowed in before the court session began and the cnn team said he looked>> interpreter: vow nervous and agitated. a little bit of video. he was there in a t-shirt and jeans behind or inside that glass box. his parents were there for the hearing, brief as it was. they both emigrated to the united states decades and decades ago. the other person of significance who was allowed in the courtroom was a u.s. ambassador. she said she wasn't able to speak directly with evan in the courtroom. in fact, when she came out of the court she again castigated the russian authorities, said that three times she requested rights and had been turned down. the russians are saying they had been giving it consideration

again. very clear that evan is being wrongly detained. >> today in the courtroom evan continued to show remarkable strength and resiliency in these very difficult circumstances. despite russian officials' public assertions about evan's activities, let me reiterate the u.s. government's firm position. the charges against him are baseless. he is an innocent journalist carrying out journalistic activities and has been wrongfully detained. >> reporter: and that is exactly, of course, what "the wall street journal," his employers, are saying, too. it is very clear to everyone looking at this from overseas and certainly from the u.s. government perspective, too, that this is politically

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well, this next story can very well be the hollywood spy thriller but it is not fiction according to a new book russia tried to assassinate a cia informant right here in the united states in miami. the alleged plot foiled in 2020. according to the book a former high-ranking russian intelligence official who in 2010 helped the fbi arrest 11 russian spies who were living under deep cover here in

america. as the author writes putin blamed the failure of the svr sleeper network on traitors and is reported to have said chilling, quote, traitors will kick the bucket. the author of this book "spies" out now in the u.s. this reporting is revealed in the british edition of the book due out later in a month. this is fascinating. "the new york times" did a big piece on this as well. those reporters triple checked what you had found, confirmed all of it. take us inside this story. >> well, thanks very much for having me on. i really appreciate it. the story came to me as i was finishing the book, and it was a big gamble. i'm not an investigative journalist, i'm a historian. it was a big gamble to put it in there and it's been nice, to put it mildly to have "the new york times" confirm my reporting. the big thing about this story is, in my view, not so much the

target who bravely gave u.s. intelligence secrets from within russian intelligence, it's not so much about him, it's more about the plot by the russian government and what putin's regime, his intelligence services, were, as "the new york times" now confirms, trying to do in this country. so there's always been a bright red line to prevent that the russian government would not conduct assassinations on u.s. soil. this was all the way through the cold war. it has been, up until this point, apparently existing and it appears now putin was willing to cross over that red line. >> he's crossed it. >> and actually conduct an assassination on u.s. soil. it's absolutely profound. >> when i read the headlines at first, i thought there's no way that's possible. there's rules. we think there's rules. there's red lines this making

clear -- the question is, has this been a clear and intentional shift or has it been moving in this direction over the course of putin's time? >> well, it's a great question, and to really conclusively answer that we would need to get inside putin's mind, and i don't have the ability -- be. >> that's the next book. >> that's the next book, i guess. when we look at it as a sort of crescendo of covert actions that putin has authorized primarily in europe but also in britain. so a critic was assassinated in london in 2006 using the extraordinary method of radioactive tea in central london. they radiated the streets of london. 2018 putin's regime, his intelligence services went after an mi-6 british spy in britain. there was an assassination in 2018 of a putin critic, a

leader, but never in the u.s. i think my own view this news now must cause u.s. authorities to go back and have a look at other unexplained deaths in the u.s. >> wow. >> there are people who are putin critics who have been found dead veconveniently for putin and i hope u.s. authorities are going back over some of those old cases. >> it just shows how important -- you say you're not an investigative reporter but what you have uncovered here is in terms of trying to get some answers for those people as well, calder. thank you. i'm sorry that we're out of time. >> thank you for having me. i really appreciate it. >> congratulations on the book. >> thank you. "cnn this morning" continues right now. crews frantically searching for the missin