pardoned for committing violence against law enforcement. that's really number one, would be the number one question that i would have. >> you have also criticized the hunter biden plea agreement that we saw generate so much reaction on capitol hill this week. do you believe that trump-appointed u.s. attorney who handled that investigation, david weiss, should come to capitol hill and testify? >> i will tell you, after seeing some of the evidence i've seen on bribery scheme potentially, money laundering, racketeering, et cetera, i have more questions than answers. i would welcome anyone from the doj or fbi to come to the hill and even if it's in the closed door setting, answer some of the questions we have. some of this evidence has been corroborated not only in the 1023 documentation but corroborated in emails and other investigations. when you put it all together, there's a lot of smoke. when there's smoke, there's fire sometimes. it ought to be investigated to the fullest extent of the law. >> you say corroborated. there are still questions about

these allegations. they have not beened, still being investigated. >> well, for example -- >> would you like david weiss to testify? >> yes, i would like that. for example, a payoff alleged, about $5 million from ukraine. also emails in hunter biden's laptop that potentially corroborated that $5 million payment. so that's why i'm saying that this ought to be investigated, and we're going to follow the facts where they lead us. >> i think the key word is "alleged." a reminder, this was a trump-appointed u.s. attorney handling this investigation. we'll see if he comes to the hill. merrick garland says he'll respond to that. thank you for your time tonight, congresswoman. >> thank you. we're tracking major developments out of russia. cnn tonight with camerada starts right now. good evening. i'm alison camerato. we have breaking news on a chaotic situation in russia. there are reports of military vehicles on the streets in moscow right now. the russian military is accusing

the head of the mercenary wagner group, yevgeny prigozhin, for calling for an armed coup in russia. president biden has been briefed on this situation. we're told national security officials at the white house are closely watching developments and not weighing in until they have a clearer sense of what exactly is happening. let's go to cnn's senior international correspondent matthew chance in kyiv. >> reporter: tensions are coming to a head with the wagner leader threatening to attack russian troops in retaliation for what he says was a deadly strike against his own paramilitary forces. in extraordinary developments tonight, the russian security services are accusing prigozhin of starting a coup attempt and have launched a criminal prosecution against him.

it could eventually see him jailed in what would be a dramatic fall from grace for one of the country's most prominent and outspoken figures. he's been in russia's high command, routinely accusing the defense minister and the country's defense chief of incompetence. in the hours before the alleged attack on the wagner cavern, prigozhin posted more comments on social media accusing the defense ministry of deceiving president putin, about the threat posed by ukraine ahead of his february 2022 invasion. he also questioned russia's invasion motives for the war. moscow's been placed on high alert and prigozhin has said there's going to be a march for justice against russian officials he said were responsible for attacking wagner. while his mercenary forces are said to be now entering the southern russian region of rostov. >> matthew chance, thank you for the update. oren lieberman is live at the

pentagon. to help us understand, we've heard some reports there are russian tanks or armored vehicles in the streets of moscow? does the pentagon know what's happening? >> reporter: we certainly see these videos that are being put out by righters and others. it's clear this is happening. the question is, what exactly does it mean? how far does this go? that's where the pentagon has not indicated to us exactly what they believe is the sort of process of events that they expect to play out. that's because it's so difficult to know right now. we have spoken with u.s. officials who tell us they're watching this very closely. as matthew chance pointed out, for months the u.s. has watched yevgeny prigozhin as he's tried to build his power base and essentially expand his influence, not only with russian president vladimir putin, but with the kremlin. this is obviously a dramatic change of events here. the u.s. watching this very closely, even if there isn't a precise picture of exactly what's happening on the street at this point. >> our ren, prigozhin posted this video that we have to

social media that he says shows that the wagner camp was hit by a russian military strike. other than this video, is there any evidence of that russian attack on prigozhin's troops? >> reporter: not that we're aware of. that's part what was makes this so difficult to know what's happening there. you have three different bases of power essentially. there are more, but three big ones. prigozhin and his wagner mercenary group. you have russia and its state media. then you have the russian ministry of defense. unfortunately, none of those are reliable sources of information, especially not at a time like this. prigozhin himself has lied and exaggerated and contorted. russian state media as we've seen the past year and a half or more has put out essentially its own narrative and version of events. the russian ministry of defense has barely put out any reliable information on ukraine. it's incredibly difficult to try to parse through all of this and understand exactly what's happening.

if what prigozhin is using as his sort of reason to act here really happened? or if he just essentially created it and fabricated it as a justification? >> as you know, prigozhin is vowing retaliation for that attack he says happened. is there evidence that he is actually mobilizing a coup right now? >> reporter: i think in one of his statements he denied he's trying to carry out a coup. he hasn't, at least in the statements i've seen, said, hey, i'm going all the way to moscow, aiming at the kremlin are according to the statements he's put out, he is in, as matthew chance pointed out, rostov, which is essentially a region just southeast of ukraine there. and that's what the claim is right now. how far he wants to take this, how far he's willing to go, and whether he's even where he claims he is, that's something that hopefully will become clearer in the hours ahead. >> our ren lieberman, thank you very much for being live for us with that status report. cnn military analyst lieutenant general mark hertling.

thanks so much. you've been monitoring this. what is happening in russia? >> some back and forth. matthew and over ren just elaborated on some very important factors. first of all, you can never believe what comes out of russia. there is always an element of what they call "moskorovka," a deception effort to fool the enemy into thinking they're doing something they're not. there are also indicators. we're seeing military vehicles "loggering," forming groups within red square. increasing the security around the moscow region itself. you're also seeing on channels some firefights going on in the province of rostov, which is, as oren said, to the southeast, just over the border from ukraine. this is where prigozhin said he was going to go with his forces, and he also said his forces were attacked by helicopters when they were in a column going into that oblass in russia.

rostov is about 200 miles away from moscow. you don't create a coup outside of a capital city where putin is and holding court. but this comes at a horrible time. all afternoon long, you've seen russian generals get on telegram channels saying, prigozhin, don't do what you're doing right now, it's going to be harmful to what we do. you see the map of rostov outside the border of ukraine. and again, to the northeast of that is the capital of moscow. it would take a long time for prigozhin and his troops to do something within the capital city where a coup is normally formulated. but you have all these generals, russian generals on telegram channels today saying, prigozhin, don't do this, it's only going to hurt our cause, the ukrainians are coming to our zero line, which what is they call their final defensive lines, we have control, don't mess with them now. the problem is with that, alison, there's a whole different subset between russian

generals and what's going on in the kremlin and what the individual soldiers are experiencing on the front lines. when that command infrastructure further breakdown as we've seen, it only causes more problems at the front. so this is a fascinating dynamic of personalities inside of moscow and the kremlin. how much is it going to affect the front line? i'm not sure just yet. i'd rather be on the ukrainian side right now than the russian side, because there's chaos and dysfunction on the russian side, where the ukrainian side is continuing with the momentum of their offensive. >> speaking of the kremlin, do we know vladimir putin's status tonight night? is he there? do we know who he would side with, prigozhin or his own military generals? >> we don't know where he is right now. that's stoking the fires.

is he well? is he still alive? has he been taken under house -- there's all kinds of conspiracy theories going on right now. i would bet that mr. putin is in a very safe place, continuing to execute his duties. the problem is, this personality dynamic, as matthew said, and as oren said, between prigozhin, putin, the defense ministry's shoygu, the general in charge of all the army, all the subordinate generals, others that were on telegram channels this evening, you know -- those are the kind of personality dynamics that has only hurt russia since the very beginning of this war. one other thing, if i may. i was in moscow in 1994, a year after the last coup where a tank actually fired on that white building of the film that you were showing. the russian parliament. it was the last coup they had. general sheboygan, who is

pleading with prigozhin tonight, was a young lieutenant colonel in the tank unit that fired the first shot at the russian parliament. he spent several months in jail in a gulag, because of that last coup attempt. now he's on telegram asking for support for mr. putin as this continues. >> that is interesting history and context, general. we're trying to get real information in. as you point out, it's very hard out of russia. russian tv interrupted their regularly scheduled programming to denounce prigozhin's claims as basically unreality. and so how will the pentagon figure out what's actually happening there tonight? >> first of all, they're not going to rely on russian tv for any truth-telling. the u.s. intelligence community probably has a much better feel for what's going on than we do, but i would also suggest certainly a better feel for what's going on than even mr. putin does. they have intelligence human

factors inside of russia that's giving them information. they have satellite imagery of any kind of troop movements, so if prigozhin really is moving, we probably have a pretty good feel for that. they have what's called mazen, signals intelligence, reading their mail. all these things give the best-equipped intelligence in the united states with accurate information of what's happening. by the way, great question. i'm sure we're sharing quite a bit of that with the ukrainian government. >> if prigozhin does do this, if this is real and prigozhin does -- is angry enough to retaliate, who has the upper hand? the wagner group and his fighters? or the russian military? >> yeah, that's a great question. because the prigozhin-wagner group has been fighting very well on the front lines. they have been somewhat successful, though as we've reported, much as been a meat grinder. they've been throwing soldiers to their deaths.

truthfully, the prigozhin-wagner group is mostly an infantry force. in other words, dismounted soldiers. they have some conventional equipment, but they certainly don't have fighter bombers or ta tanks in the scale of the rest of the russian army. but there's increasing protest movement inside of russia, as well as some of the groups that have attacked within russia from the ukrainian side. i think you're seeing a putin that perhaps is taking a lot of hits from a variety of different angles. and i wouldn't bet on either side, to be honest. if it was prigozhin versus the entire russian military, it might be an interesting fight. but i'm not sure who would come out on top. but notwithstanding that, it's going to certainly be a benefit to the ukrainian counteroffensive. >> okay, we're going to talk about that right now. general hertling, thank you so much for your expertise. let's bring in ambassador

william taylor, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. thank you for being here. of course, you know this region well. help us understand the gravity of what we're seeing unfold here. >> alison, this is very important. as general hertling just said, it's very important in particular for the ukrainians. ukrainians are now wrapping up their counteroffensive. this is the perfect timing for the ukrainians to really take advantage of this chaos in moscow. chaos in the russian military. so this is an opportunity for the ukrainians to take advantage of that misunderstanding, not knowing, as general hertling said, the russian soldiers not real sure what's going on back with their chain of command. this is very important, a development we'll be watching carefully. >> as we understand, the kremlin is cordoned off tonight. do you have a sense of the status of vladimir putin, where

he would be? >> probably not in the kremlin. probably not there. he doesn't spend many nights in the kremlin. he is, i'm sure, in a very safe place. he's probably watching very carefully. he should be very nervous. he's got big problems here. he's got the military that is now diverting its attention to one of its own, prigozhin, to the wagner group. so -- and again, as general hertling just said, putin's got a real problem within the country. this is a series of problems that he's got to deal with right now. >> putin and prigozhin go way back. as you well know. they were -- prigozhin was a close confidant of putin's. do you have a sense of where putin's loyalties lie, if that is such a thing with putin? >> it's a good question. does he have loyalties? i think the answer is probably no. the expectation -- the understanding is that putin changes his mind, shifts his favor, from one to another, to

ensure that no one gets particularly powerful that could threaten him. you're right, putin and prigozhin go way back. but not as military. prigozhin has recently come on the scene as the head of the wagner. for a while he denied he was even associated with it. now he admits and it's clear that he's involved in this thing. and putin has got the worry that prigozhin is mounting a coup. they're talking about a coup, an armed coup that could threaten putin's regime. >> so is that for real? in other words, you're saying that the wagner group, if prigozhin were to go ahead with this, this armed rebellion, as he's threatening, that he could pull off a coup? >> he has said he's doing a march for justice. someone earlier said that he was

conducting a coup. he said, no, no, it's not a coup, this is a march for justice. so yes, he is hoping to get support from other units, other military units. he's hoping to get support from the russian people. he's hoping to get support from russian soldiers who were disgruntled. general hertling just described how they've been thrown into the meat grinder around bakhmut and ukraine. there are families that have lost soldiers, a lot of families. 200,000, probably more, 250,000 families who have lost loved ones. there's discontent. and prigozhin is undoubtedly trying to capitalize on that. so yes, this is a potential coup. >> let's talk about that, what you touched on, the morale in russia. the war, their war effort, has been roundly criticized as a disaster. it did not go the way vladimir putin had intended it to. the u.s. believes there's something like 100,000, maybe more russian troops killed.

what effect is that having on morale in russia? not just in the military, but broadly in terms of support for the war in ukraine? >> alison, good question. we don't really know. we know the kind of things you just said. 100,000, even 200,000 families have lost soldiers, have lost brothers and fathers. so that's got to be weighing on a lot of russians. but when you look at the polls, the polling that is done, if you can put any credence into these polls, the russian people up until now have supported putin. however, when he's challenged, as you pointed out, he's made some big mistakes militarily. he's not done well on the battlefield. if he's now got problems within his own military structure, not within his army but within the military structures, people are going to lose confidence. people could well lose confidence. and when a dictator loses the confidence of people around him,

he could be in trouble. >> ambassador william taylor, thank you very much for walking us through everything that we're trying to understand tonight in russia. we'll take a quick break. we'll have more of our breaking news. this chaotic situation in russia. the kremlin security service accuses the wagner group's mercenary leader of calling for an armed rebellion. he does. mom: we're having triplets.. no, what does that meaean? it m means you're gonna need more tide. -see? -baby: ah.h. more likes? more tide. the more adorable? more tide. everyone's gonna need more tide. ♪ you're gonna need- more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod.

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expectation that maybe some of this was a game or just power politics. but this has certainly gone to the next level. so this is actually really good for ukraine in the long run. frankly, for the world. because regardless of what ends up happening with this, the wagner group is probably going to be out of action around the world. >> i guess i'm heartened to hear that. chaos in russia doesn't always sound great for the world. so chaos in russia where the military, whatever move is happening is precarious, you're confident that would work out well for ukraine and the rest of the world? >> i'm not confident of anything because it's obviously a very tenuous situation. there's always going to be a lot of fear whenever you hear about instability in russia. russia has nuclear weapons. this happens about every few years. we hear about this. but for ukraine itself, for the war in ukraine, this can't be anything but good. if you think about it, wagner is actually really a terrorist organization, quite honestly.

but they took bakhmut and basically destroyed the entire city. they've been engaged in syria, killing innocent syrian ci civilians. they've been engaged in libya. these mining operations in africa and all over africa. it's a really brutal organization. but you take that combat power away from the war in ukraine, obviously now the russian military has to put some of its focus elsewhere. and for the whole world now have wagner basically be on the outs with a lot of the terrible things they're doing around the world, i think that's a good thing in the long run. >> congressman what would a coup even look like in russia? does the wagner group have the numbers in order to pull off a coup? >> i think it all depends on where the military would end up falling on where the population would end up falling. and he doesn't have to march all the way to moscow. you think about it. russia's a very kind of limited

in terms of logistics. so all he has to do is take certain logistics hubs. all he has to do is cut off or control certain -- railway, for instance. you can basically paralyze the military movements, you can paralyze the economy that way. and then prigozhin can either extract something or bring the folks on thinks side. so i personally am not sitting around expecting a legitimate traditional coup to happen in terms of vladimir putin's out, prigozhin's in. it's possible, but i certainly think he's going to extract some big concessions. he has no choice now. now there's a price on his head, for sure. >> what does this mean for vladimir putin? >> i mean, every day -- really, since he launched the war in ukraine, his hold on power gets -- continues to weaken. i think on the one hand, the positive for him may be it could give him an excuse to end the war in ukraine because he can say, oh, look, i have some internal security situation, we now need to focus on it.

it's possible. because he knows he's losing in ukraine but he can't declare that. so every day that goes by, he throws more and more bodies at this war simply because it buys him an extra day on the earth. so i think he's continued -- his hold on power is certainly tenuous. there's not a lot of people, including me, that would probably expect him to be in power in five years. he just has to keep fighting and fighting. this is one more distraction for him. >> in terms of ukraine, how does president zelenskyy capitalize on this? >> well, you have a distracted russian force. you have a confused russian force. that doesn't mean they're not going to fight. it doesn't mean they're going to become any easier, they won't. but now the wagner troops have been pulled. you have that bit of a vacuum. there's a lot of confusion, so it's a good time to hit. there's actually some reports that they're striking in bakhmut tonight. and so it's a hit to morale. it's a russia with a divided attention span now. and it's actually weakened combat power. not to mention, again, there

really could be russian soldiers that have some sympathy, maybe not for wagner, but some sympathy for some anti-putin sentiment. >> how does the u.s. respond, what should the white house reaction be? >> probably not too much right now. i think working with ukraine to understand the intelligence of this, how you can take advantage of it on the battlefield, which they've been doing very well so far. you know, we don't want to necessarily get involved in a civil war or civil conflict in russia. but let me say this, too. this is an important moment for us now to remind those that have been parroting putin's lies, whether it's turker carlson or people in the senate and house, they're been parroting the lies that this was a war brought on by nato, that ukraine deserved it, because prigozhin himself -- again, the head of basically a terrorist organization -- said to the russian people tonight that russia has been lying to them about the cause of the war,

russia has been lying to them about who's the aggressor in the d dunbass, and that's something to remember when american commentators are saying that vladimir putin is actually an honorable man that's telling the truth. >> yeah. really good context. congressman, thank you very much for talking to us tonight. up next, more breaking news on this busy friday night. the u.s. coast guard will now lead the investigation into the "titan" submersible disaster. we just haven't bebeen properly introduced. say hello to the place w where rolling hills meets low w bill. where our fields, inside and out, are always s growing. anand where the fun is just getting started. this is iowa. so, when are you coming to see us? ♪

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we have more breaking news tonight. this on the catastrophic implosion of the "titan" submersible. the united states coast guard will now lead the investigation into this incident. cnn's jason carroll is live for us in boston. jason what does it mean that the coast guard's going to lead now? >> reporter: right, and just to point out, alisyn, not just the u.s. coast guard, but in

addition to that we've also gotten word today that the national transportation safety board is also going to be a part of this investigation. in addition to that you've got the canadian transportation board involved as well. what's going to be key to the investigation, forensic evidence. you've got to get as much as you can. gather as many pieces as you can of the "titan" as possible. that's why it's so important for those remotely operated vehicles to continue work on the ocean floor. so while you've heard word about vessels pulling out of the area, and indeed that is happening in the north atlantic, those rovs, remotely operated vehicles, are staying there. they're continuing to scour the debris area, trying to get as much evidence as possible. because what forensic experts are going to have to do is they're going to have to get pieces of that whole did and try to do testing on that to thigh to come to some conclusion about

the integrity of the hull. this as we've heard from so many people the last 24 to 48 hours who say they raised issues with oceangate about its safety protocols and about the integrity of the "titan." >> what about this marine certification company? it rejected a request to certify the "titan." >> reporter: right. lloyd's registrar. that is the company that typically does this type of marine vessel registration. according to what we've heard here at cnn, there was a request from oceangate to have "titan" certified. this was back in 2019. and this company denies the request to do that. did not want to work with them. the company did not provide a reason as to why that happened. what's interesting about that, you'll remember that oceangate on its website had said that they had decided to forgo getting registered, saying it was standing in the way of

innovation. that was something that was on their website. that website has now been taken down. >> okay, still a lot of questions. jason carroll, thank you very much. let's bring in david wad, a passenger on the "titan" in 2021. in fact, he took the same trip on board the "titan" to see the "titanic" wreckage two years ago. thank you for your time and for being here. at that time, two years ago when you took this trip to view the "titanic," did you have any reservations about the safety of the submersible? >> no, i did not. and in fact, i felt very lucky to be one of only 200-odd people who would have ever seen the "titanic" underwater at the 12,500 foot level. now i feel, of course, very lucky that i went on the fifth trip with "titan" when the hull was still strong tough to withstand that pressure. but i did not have any reservations. i thought the trip was very professionally run.

i adored stockton and p.h., who were on the trip with me. only stockton was in the submersible, not p.h. on that particular dive. but i didn't have any reservations. i just was so excited to be doing something that i'd been hoping to do for 11 years. >> and what did stockton tell you at that time about safety? what did you ask him? did you know, for instance, that he had employed a sort of unorthodox construction of the submersible, that other people in the industry didn't know if it would work? basically, it wasn't industry standard. did you know that at the time? >> no, i did not know that. i did know, because i was originally supposed to go out in 2019 when they thought the pressure tests would be finished and "titan" would be able to take out passengers in 2019. and there was some sort of problems with weather in the bahamas where they were testing it and other things. and so they scratched all those trips that were scheduled for 2019. i think then the "titan" was

tested and found that maybe it had to be reinforced some more, which i think was done during 2020. i don't know all the details on that. and i was pretty confident, 2021 when i was on the trip, that it was safe. >> so david, what was the trip like? did you get a good view of the "titanic"? >> okay, i -- that particular trip, i was on the fourth day of the five-day trip, we ended up near the stern rather than the bow. you're never sure what the currents are, and where we were released and started to do the two-hour descent, we ended up much closer to the stern. so i was very disappointed i didn't get to the bow, but the stern is still fascinating. it's a main geed, very big piece of metal. and we also were in the debris field. the next day, which was the last day for all those summer trips, three other men went down with stockton and p.h. and actually got to film the bow. and of course, when everyone thinks of the "titanic," they

think of the bow. i was also filming because i was going to make a movie for charities about this trip. so i was disappointed, but still the whole process of going down 12,500 feet was amazing. i considered it a very successful trip. >> what was it like? down there, was it pitch black? are you all just looking out that one window? are you all taking turns in that submersible? >> oh, there also was a computer screen that fed us all the video footage from a camera that was mounted on top of the "titan." but otherwise, the two men in front of me no who were seated looking right out the 21-inch view port and myself right behind them, that's what we were looking out of. it got dark fairly quickly. we then went through a little zone with phosphorescence, which was neat. then it got pitch dark again all the way until we got closer to the bottom, then stockton turned on the lights. so when we hit the bottom, we could see the sitcom up around

it. it took a few minutes to settle, then he started to use the thrusters to move us around. >> was it freezing cold? >> no, it wasn't that cold because we'd just arrived at the bottom. but we did have different layers of clothes with us because it was very warm at the top when we got into the submersible, and it certainly got colder and colder as we went down. but i don't remember it being really, really cold. >> were there any moments during that whole process for you that i guess took a couple of hours? any moments that felt dicey? any moment that you were nervous? >> no, i was not nervous at all. i thought i was in wonderful hands, a very professional team. every day we had meetings at 7:00 in the morning, 7:00 at night. they would talk about what we were going to do. the first three days because of weather, all the dives were scrubbed. they were so professional in their presentations. i did not have any problems anywhere going down. now, i've done some other things that are a little bit dangerous. i'm certainly not an extreme

adventurer at all, but i don't get scared as easily as a lot of people. and i don't get claustrophobia very often, which i think was lucky, being in that submersible for more than ten hours. >> yeah, i can tell you don't scare easily, certainly. a lot's been made in other reports of how there was a kind of low-tech feeling to the construction. it felt a little jury-rigged in there. it was kind of a video game controller. things, products from off the shelf used to construct it. did you see some of that? >> only the video game controller, and stockton was very proud of that. he certainly did not hide the fact that anybody could control that submersible from this -- i mean, i was not allowed to, but from this game controller. he was proud of it. he certainly was not trying to hide that. but i learned since this accident, i'd seen some other video, other people in there, saying there were more things that he kind of bought off the

shelf. but he felt that -- i mean, he wouldn't have gone down dive after dive. he was the pilot on almost every trip -- if he hadn't felt that submersible was 100% safe. >> now that you've had 24 hours to think about this tragedy, do you have a theory on what happened? >> right when i heard that they'd lost communications with the submersible, i thought that it probably had imploded. and i just thought that because i knew they had not reached the bottom, at least when they had the last communication from it. they were still 45 minutes or so from reaching the bottom. so i didn't think they could be tangled up. there are many, many different ways to release weights to get back up to the surface if they had had a problem with that. so i just kind of -- but i didn't say, in all the interviews i did at that point, obviously, that i thought it had imploded. i kept positive, the way almost everyone else did. but that certainly was my first thought, especially since i knew

there had been some reinforcing and some problems with testing back in 2019. that was my first thought. >> david watt, thank you for sharing your experience with us. it's really interesting to talk to somebody who did this very trip, to hear what it was like. and of course, we're happy, like you are, that you got to have that experience. so thanks for being here. >> it was amazing. >> that's nice to hear. >> you're welcome. okay, there's also breaking news tonight in donald trump's classified documents criminal case. the special counsel is asking for a new trial date. we have the details next. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there grow andnd thrive. we're proud to call these places home too. they're where we put down roots, and where together, we work to help move everyone's financial goals forward.

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reporting on the special counsel's investigation into donald trump's involvement in january 6th. so here to help us understand all of this, cnn's senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz and defense attorney missy meares. thank you both for being here. tell us about these late friday filings. >> late friday filings, alisyn. these are a little procedural, but they're important procedural steps that have to be taken. so there's the first one is this trial date request from the prosecutors. this was very expected, that that trial date the judge put on the calendar earlier this week for august was never going to hold because there needs to be a lot done in this case, especially around classified documents and the handling of them. that all has to be litigated with special proceedings. so now the justice department is saying they want that trial date to be in december. still a pretty quick turnaround for a trial. we'll have to see what happens with the judge and donald trump's team. and thor on thing, alisyn, in

these late-night filings tonight, there are 84 witnesses, according to what the donald trump's team says, on a list that the justice department provided that he is not allowed to be talking about the details of this case with. that would be part of his release conditions as well as the release conditions of his codefendant, walt nauta. and 84 names is quite a list. we're also going to have to wait and see what happens with that. the justice department did hand over that list after setting the bond conditions following donald trump saying he was not guilty in court last week. but from could be some more disputes that arise over that, even as his codefendant, walt nauta, is headed to be in court next tuesday to enter his initial pleading of not guilty as well. >> okay. >> that's a lot of stuff. let's start with the trial date. because i understand that's a short turnaround, december, moving it from august to december. in the news world, it's an eternity between now and december. why does it take six months to

clear the classified documents? >> right. in the news world, 15 seconds is an eternity, right? in this case, look, the court had to put this case on the calendar under the speedy trial provision in the statute. that's 70 days from indictment. but it was almost always going to be pushed back. part of it is part of the prosecution's filing. they said, look, we need to get these clearances, they can take up to two months. so this is the prosecution actually asking for this time vr i would have expected that request to come from donald trump's team. and i do think we're going to see his team jumping in and saying, december 11th is not going to work for us, we have so many pretrial motions that we need to get filed, we're going to need even more time. >> and it them to push it in election season? >> i think they will probably want to push it as long as they can to see what they can do with the case. bauts it's because it's not looking good right now.

>> tell us about the special council. two republican fake electors, limited immunity for their testimony. what do we know about that? >>? the special counsel january 6th investigation, a lot of activity where they bring in grand jury witnesses, and news that the trump company had after the fake electors to say that trump had won battleground states when he hadn't and try to get the elec electoral college in his favor. they want to answer questions under their fifth amendment rights. they needed their test moan. really it's a moment where the special council offense is pushing for testimony, for answers and they are not looking

to give anybody delays, and that comes from a special adifferent witnesses in the grand jury. >> so, if they give them limited immunity, they street to say what they know or they testify against others? >> i could be what they know. when they have limited immunity, it means they will not be prosecuted. so the door is open to go before the grand jury and tell their story without fear of prosecution. so the special counsel needs their testimony for this probe, and i would think i would be nervous. because this could encompass many others in this net. big elector scheme, a lot of focus on that, when we saw the doj really start to investigate that aspect of the election fraud. this will be a new aspect and they could have really key information in the testimony. >> if you are a fake elector,

you would be nervous. >> i would be doing to the prosecutors and saying i would like to an immunity deal as well to ensure i don't get prosecuted in the end of the day. >> so what else are prosecutors trying to look for here? >> it seems there is a lot of focus on what happened after the election, and all of the comments of the continuing of the narrative that the election was stolen, the money that had been received from the trump campaign and from the people in his camp, relating to that, to fight it, and where that money went? it seems like this is a really wide encompassing probe that has a lot of focus on trump's attorneys too, giuliani, powell. that is what they look for. and the phones have been subpoenaed. seems like that is the direction they are going. >> quickly what is a charge? what would the charges be?

>> this would be conspiracy to defraud the united states. that would be the big one. it could be fraud, money laundering. we don't really know where it's going to go until that information is public. so only time will tell. >> thank you very much for helping us understand that. thank you so much for being here. okay, just ahead, manu more of breaking news. russian generals are accusing a milt group of attempting a coup. and there are reports of armed vehicles in the streets of moscow tonight.

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. >> welcome back to cnn. we are following the chaotic situation in russia, after the russian military accuses yevgeny

prigozhin of calling far coup. we are told the white house is closely monitoring the situation, and president biden has been briefed. let's get to ivan watson on what is happening tonight. you have been handling all sorts of russian issues. give us your take. >> you basically have russia's most powerful commander who is facing a court case from the russian government right now. they're accusing him of mutiny. of armed rebellion. meanwhile, what he seems to be doing, he seems to be describes sending convoys of his troops in russi russia in ukraine as a march for justice. he has accused them of attacking

their forces. one is denied by the russian defense ministry. we have seen on social media, signs of military convoys on highways in the region, and we have also seen this really dramatic footage of troops deploying in the streets of the city. and we have geolocated the videos to show they are near the headquarters of the russian defense ministries southern command. part of the challenge here is, you can't really tell whether or not the forces are the russian military defense forces or wagner mercenary forces. but certainly the posture is aggressive. in some cases, we can see the soldiers, prone position in the streets, deploys around military buildings and there are civilians standing next to them in shorts and t-shirts. certainly, there is