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>> there for realizing that russian blood will be shed from one of the sides, we turn our colonies around and lead in the opposite direction to the field camps and according to the plan. >> the kremlin says it doesn't know where bogosian is right now. this is a video where his troops seized military facilities on saturday. officials now tell cnn that u.s. intelligence believes they were planning to directly challenge russia's military leadership for a while. meanwhile, washington did not see any change in the russia's nuclear posture during the

turmoil. continues to monitor developments in russia. he joins me now from hong kong. tell me more about where things stand right now. in the last day or so, if that is an indicator, people can be different in a few hours from now. >> for now, michael, the russian state media is reporting that the highways leading north to moscow are being reopened. these are highways that state television themselves reported how russian officials were trying to cut them off if not destroying the pavement itself and replacing trucks full of sand in the way as an offer to block the wagner mercenaries from reaching the russian capital. as for the counterterrorism measures, the stricter security measures that have been posed in moscow, those supposedly are still in place. then there is the bigger question of just digesting the mind-boggling turn of events

that have taken place over the course of the weekend. that is just beginning to happen. for example, i was just listening to a recording from one of the top propaganda sources who on his program was saying he was basically heartbroken seeing men that he described as heroes, the wagner mercenaries that had been fighting in ukraine, were on the verge of a civil war against the russian armed forces and the russian state in russia. he was trying to understand how to process this. he went on to concede that lives had been lost during the dramatic events of saturday. helicopter pilots and pilots. helicopter crews and pilots, he said, died. we know that he claimed responsibility for shooting down at least one helicopter. there were reports coming from military blogs about souther

aircraft being shot down by the mercenaries. the kremlin says it will press no charges against him and his forces. lives again have been lost. how will this be dealt with? another big question here, michael, that all of russia saw, armed units could just go charging into russia and travel hundreds and hundreds of kilometers up the roads unimpeded. what does that say about the state of national security in russia today. all questions to be considered. that really says something and hurt the credibility and reputation of the russian state. >> i wanted to ask you on the role of alexander in belarus and all of this. the man that is largely seen as a tool of, being the dealmaker on the surface of it. how does that play into all of it? >> for years, he has been

viewed as a junior partner of vladimir putin. maybe some harsher words that may come out, as well. even more so in the course of the last year and a half. since the russian security forces helped him face down his own uprising after very contentious elections that he was accused of rigging. out of the blue, in the midst of the biggest challenge and potential power struggle to face vladimir putin, which he compared to the 1917 revolution. he himself, and addressing the nation on saturday, out of the blue, he apparently, according to the kremlin, brokers a peace deal with him that ends the specter of bloodshed inside russia. we don't know the details of it. we don't know what kind of situation he might be under. if and when he does get to belarus, we continue to fire

his rhetorical broadsides against the russian defense minister? against the chief of general staff in russia? will he continue to have command and control over the wagner mercenary forces? that we do not know. the kremlin alleges or claims that he came up with this brilliant solution to overt bloodshed in russia. so, we will just have to watch and see where that goes next. just an additional piece of content, in the last month, russia has announced that it will be moving nuclear weapons onto belarusian soil. >> yes, indeed. ivan watson, following it all for us there. appreciate it. joining me now is -- a staff writer for the new yorker and the author of "surviving autocracy". great to have your voice.

putin called what he did an insurrection. like a big stab in the back. how damaged do you think putin is? no matter what the apparent deal done is with the man who brought that about. as his foundation fractured? >> if you cannot tell, it was a -- actually collapses. i think this is huge. this is the first real challenge to the force at the same time. that we have seen in 23 years. especially in the last years, there has been nobody else speaking in public and being able to take political action. so, even just people of russia having seen where this is possible. it is possible to get putin to react to it, more or less in

real time, it is huge. now, does that mean that the regime will and the focus? we have no idea. it does mean that it is happening. >> you know russians very well. this isn't 1991 where swan lake played on tv. people no more these days about what is going on. what will people be thinking, right now? do you have any sense of that?, they would know? >> actually, people know a lot less than they did in 1991. in 1991, there was quite a lot of information flowing. these days, the information regime is extremely restricted. of course, it could become more restrictive. that is what he will have to do. he is going to have to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again. the only way for him to do that is really cracked down on

information in russia. that probably means putting russia off engagements. >> when it comes to the public going back to that again , this time, the war, you know, literally came home for russians and not via ukrainians. it was russians bringing the war to russian soil. is that shocking imagery or do you think that is also part of the noise in a way for russia? >> that is definitely shocking imagery. the tank that was wedged in the gate of the circus in moscow. just the way that you can see on television channels, people posting footage of armed vehicles whether it is his armed vehicles or the ministry of defenses. the presidents armed vehicles traveling up and down roads right outside of moscow.

all of this was clearly shaking people up and feeling extreme to them. >> what is your sense of the role of lukashenko and belarus being portrayed as some broker of a deal. that is hard to imagine. what do you make of his role in this and the notion of promotion going to belarus to retire being far-fetched. >> there are a couple of things that i try not to speculate. there are a few things that we do know. it is not a sovereign state in full sense of the word. it has really been dominated by russia, especially in the last almost three years since the protesting in belarus in august, 2020. it is not like they are going

into exile. it is possible and he agreed to be on another country's territory, just to help law enforcement save face. this is clearly no permanent solution. i think it is entirely possible that they wanted the ukrainian world. he wants to go back to africa. he wants to concentrate his troops in africa, where he actually has it driving in the mercenary business. it is in central africa. that is a huge loss for putin on the ukrainian friend. these were his literal troops. so, while ukraine is mounting the defense of his, he is losing this aggressive force and this bottomless source that is significant. >> you know how it works, better than me in russia. does the decline of the leader

take time? tran >> in totalitarian societies, normally the leader does not take time. usually it happens suddenly. it seems that this time it didn't happen. right? so, i don't think what we are going to be observing is some slow and gradual loss of power. i think we are going to be observing next is an intense crackdown that may or may not succeed with getting things under control. whatever happens next is going to be drastic. in my duty people then rise up? or do you not see that happening? popular protests? >> the regime is not going to be brought on by popular protests. the regime can only be brought down by people who are well

armed. >> yeah. fascinating analysis, as always. thank you so much. a pleasure. >> thank you. >> speaking to capitalize on the chaos in russia, the ukrainian military had simultaneous counsel offenses. the fighting took place in several cities and towns in the east saying that there is progress in all directions but not providing further details. she also acknowledged heavy fighting in southern ukraine, where russian forces are trying to halt ukrainian advances. the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, john herbs, says the crisis in moscow will definitely have an impact on the battlefield at his demoralizing for the russian troops fighting in ukraine. >> it was very clear that he was spooked. we can understand why he was spooked. he launched an unpopular war.

a man who was considered something of a hero for being more successful on the battlefield in ukraine. he was sharply criticized for the reasons of and going to war and demonstrating he has his own independent power. this is not a 24 hour blip. he is the person who looked behind the screen at the wizard of oz and saw the great and terrible oz was a frightening man. putin has been diminished for all time by this affair. he declared that what he has done is treachery. now, there seems to be some sort of understanding when he goes back to doing what he was doing. so, he has emerged as a second source of power and russia. as for the impact in the battlefield. certainly this is demoralizing for russian troops. they are demoralized by the treatment. in the success with the

counteroffensive last year. of course, they pulled out their forces after they took -- not taking it very well. ukrainians understand this. i suspect this will add a little bit of impetus to a counteroffensive which has not gone badly, but not gone as well as some people expected. >> that was john herbs, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. there is much more cnn coverage ahead on the russia situation. we will look on the impact the crisis will have on the one ukraine good you're watching newsroom. we will be right back. (♪) this electric feels different... because it's powered by the most potent source of energy there is ... you.

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truman the insurrection orchestrated by afghan he bogosian ended abruptly on saturday as the kremlin said the mercenary leader agreed to leave russia and go to ella roos. ben filed this report. >> what a long, strange day it has been, starting with prigozhin claiming to have seized with the headquarters of russians selling southern military district. the strategic command center for much of russia's forces in eastern and southern ukraine. for ukraine, it seemed the enemy was turning upon itself. that the ripples of chaos and

disorder in russia would reach the front lines here. ukrainian officials issued statements to the effect did that this was the collapse of russia, of a civil war, with volodymyr zelenskyy even suggesting that putin was on the run. >> the man from the kremlin is obviously very afraid and probably hiding somewhere, not showing himself. i am sure that he is no longer in moscow. >> wherever he was, everything changed when it was announced that prigozhin announced to stop his march on moscow and return to base. saturday evening, they announced gains in a series of offensives around the now russian occupied town of bock mood. when all is said and done, the sound and. of the brief insurrection came to light. >> ukrainians appeared to be pleased as they watch the

standoff between the kremlin and mercenaries. some residents in the war-torn cities even said they were enjoying the chaos. >> i enjoy what is happening out of russia. the inevitable contract between prigozhin and putin was expected. i wish for them to shoot each other and die. >> they started the war. they got it back. the harder you press the spring, the harder it shoots. the situation was pressed to such extent in russia that it became hopeless. i consider what happened a natural event. it will influence the war, but i think it will not be over in a day. we will have to endure a bit, russia will be in flames. >> so, where is prigozhin? the kremlin says it has no idea where the wagner leader is after it abruptly called off its threatened insurrection. we will have the latest on what we know when we come back.

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>> welcome back to our viewers in the united states. i am michael holmes, you are watching cnn newsroom. the armed insurrection in russia and did near audacious challenges to the authority ever witnessed. while this showdown may have been defused for now, regime ma

from over. the leaders show just how easily he could take over a major russian military installation and then send columns of troops racing towards moscow. some mercenaries were halfway to the capital when prigozhin abruptly ordered them back. personal appeal by the allies are credited with prigozhin calling off his rebellion. a staunch putin ally is slamming prigozhin accusing him of arrogance and confusing ambition with matters of importance. posting on the telegram on saturday, saying extreme measures should've been needed which could have led to bloodshed. the state media reported on saturday that 3000 of its fighters were deployed, ready to back up russia's president if needed.

meanwhile, the close ally of the russian president says it was not a good idea for the wagner chief to plan a march to moscow as a putin has strong support in the capital. >> they expected some fighting in the city. there is a number of ticketed trips to moscow at almost zero. a lot of people decided to leave the capital. so, it is good news. at the same time, that some kind of negotiations should be. both sides appeared to be -- come to moscow with the fact that they can get. >> no chance. the popularity now is about 80%

everybody with the deputies, every morning may experience support to putin. on another camp. to crash the military waste with the wagner troops, it is a very bad solution. wagner is the best private army in the world. it is needed on the front lines in ukraine. also putin will have to take the ukrainian floor that will open their windows and doors for ukrainian army counteroffensive. the solution has been found. it is a little bit natural. only private ambitions can undermine this possibility of

the video. >> joins me from ottawa in canada. putin has always been weary, trusting few people in the orbit. how does that restrict use access. >> it was interesting. even though the kremlin has tried to keep control of any kind of opposition to its invasion to ukraine. what happened on friday night was certainly new. in terms of what russia is prepared to do. so, google news, sites like google news were restricted. that is according to net blocks that started on friday night. if you spoke to russians anecdotally, they could see that that was happening. looking for that kind of news, they can't find it.

they can and they do. it is what they are prepared to do. they are running some type of a bulletin. they had that dramatic speech in putin. running things like entertainment. it is interesting here that with they wanted to go for the information on this, they would have found it, they might just have to work a little harder to find it. it will be interesting in the days and weeks to restrict that access further. i do want to point out that while you may be able to find the information about what is going on, whether it is ukraine or what happened the last 48 hours, they are going to find on the internet, commenting on it and have it showing in any opposition, whatsoever. the operation in ukraine that has landed many people with certainly inquiries and prison terms. >> given your knowledge of the

country, is putin likely mortally wounded in the political sense? perhaps not now. maybe months, even a year or two down the line. are there cracks in his armor? >> i think definitely this is unprecedented in terms of the stranglehold that putin has had on the country for well over two decades. also an entire generation. so many of those are fighting right now with the war in ukraine. they have never known another leader other than vladimir putin, even though he was prime minister for a significant amount of time. what is important now is the fact that there was in the russian elite will be looking at him and wondering what have you done and is it time to replace you as leader? you know as well as anyone, michael, the amount of money that has been made by russian elite, this invasion of ukraine, the war has cost them

dearly, as well. when using this debacle with prigozhin today, they wonder to themselves, is it time to try and promote? never has vladimir putin had this kind of a challenge to him that i want to point out when everything. when i was in russia, we were covering the coverage. putin had come to power. the russians, the brutal nature of the war being prosecuted there, they had a bargain with putin that he will keep rings very calm. it was not a calm day in many cities and towns throughout russia today. they are wondering with this competent ukraine inching closer to the russian doorstep, they will wonder if vladimir putin is the leader for them. i want to caution them, it doesn't necessarily mean they will see russians in the streets anytime soon. >> good to see you, my friend. now, in washington, there has been little said publicly about prigozhin's gambit.

they have been on the phone with allies since it began. regular updates. the high-level contracts has been to stress washington's joins us now from washington from the latest. the bemusement over what happened in the last 24 hours, it is everywhere else. >> i think there was they are watching this unrest in a country that has tried so hard. the officials at the white house have affected the war on ukraine.

on its face, certainly a distracted vladimir putin and it would probably be pretty good for the ukrainians. on the flipside, among president biden's aides in the military officials. what happens if putin lashes out. what happens if you feel like he has backed into a corner and feels like he needs to demonstrate strength. i think that is part of what is informing the strategy that you are seeing in washington and also in european capitals of not really commenting on the situation at all. in fact, leaders really do want to avoid the appearance that they are putting their fingers on the scale here with this all being an american plot. a playbook of his in the past. when the president did get on the phone with the french president, the chancellor, that is something until they did come to an agreement on which is that they wouldn't spike the

football. they wanted to make this into a bigger deal. they would reaffirm their support for ukraine but they would not necessarily comment directly on the incident that you were seeing on the ground there. this is how it played out over the course of the day here. president biden really kept to his schedule. he was a little bit late but he did depart for the presidential retreat. that is where he is spending the weekend getting continuous updates as the day goes on. >> tell us more. they are reporting that u.s. intelligence saw signs of prigozhin. that his move was coming. tell us more about that. >> this has been something that was a topic of interest a topic of interest in january when they looked at the intelligence and saw what they called this power struggle from the head of the wagner group and the russian ministry of defense. they kept monitoring that over the last several months or so.

this week, u.s. intelligence officials did brief the white house, the pentagon, and also a significant member of congress about the is preparations that the wagner group had and was taking in the steps that he eventually did take. i think in the white house, he has never been at the forefront of the intelligence that president putin could somehow lose power because of what is happening in ukraine. at the same time, they always have these contingency plans for whatever may happen on the ground there. it was interesting that they did see this coming sort of step-by-step. eventually, it happens today. but, i think there was some surprise at how quickly it escalated over the course of the day. we saw that in the scramble. a number of american officials have been planning to travel overseas, including the joint chiefs chairman's and the president of international security adviser, sullivan. they both canceled tuesday back in washington. sullivan is in camp david this

weekend. there is something of a scramble, even though they saw there was indication that this could happen in their intelligence over the last week or so. >> awry, kevin, appreciate it. so, the insurrection led by prigozhin has reportedly, as we have discussion, been long in the making. coming up, a word from the u.s. intelligence about how he has been working a while on his challenge to russia's military leaders. we will be right b back.

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>> a quick update on our developing story out of russia, where the mercenary led insurrection adhered to come to a sudden end. moscow says it doesn't really know where prigozhin is right now. he is saying there is video of him being shared on as he left moscow after cutting a deal with the kremlin to end his insurrection. officials tell cnn that the u.s. intelligence believes he was planning his result for a while in that washington did not see any change in russia's nuclear posture while the events played out. ukraine's president says that the insurrection said a lot about the kremlin's grip on power. or the lack of it.

>> today is the day where there should definitely be no silence. nothing at all, can create chaos. it is happening on russian territory which is loaded with weapons. >> luke is the correspondent for the guardian and often the author of the book, invasion, the story of the bloody were in the fight for survival. per goshen has survived a long time by being reactionary. on friday he said i am going to moscow. what to you was his plan here? >> yeah, with prigozhin

leading his troops up the hill and then back down again. -- more confused. but -- he doesn't seem to have got that. but he is still very much in the game. my sense is that it has been incredibly humiliating for that. he is at the weakest he has been probably since the start of his residency. but the fault of vladimir putin. it is very strange and something has to give. >> your signal dropped out a couple of times during that answer but we got the gist of it. you were talking about putin perhaps being weakened by what is going on. the moves by prigozhin but also doing a deal with a man he had

accused of insurrection and filed charges against. basically caught him a traitor. how does that make putin look. do they let him go? >> it makes putin look incredibly weak. i do think it has been a very humiliating episode for putin. almost always that the president of belarus was the person that brokered this supposedly deal between the kremlin and prigozhin, which saw him pull out and turn back. there are unconfirmed reports that putin fled moscow on his personal -- >> a clear contrast with president zelenskyy , top list now who of course stayed in kyiv last year as russian

forces stayed there. i think it is weaker and has been really disastrous >> it is prigozhin that tried to go to belarus into quiet retirement. do you think we have seen act i of a multi-act play? >> i think there will be more bodies on the stage in this particular -- i mean in my mind, there is a question mark as if prigozhin can survive this. we don't know the nature of the deal that he struck with the kremlin. clearly, the longer he is there, you have to look at the pictures from when he left and when he has been cheered by crowds. he is a pretender, he is a rival. he is a symbol of putin's inability to get a grip on the situation. look, you know as well as i do,

there is no point in being predictive in the situation, but i would be surprised if prigozhin is still alive by the end of this year. >> yeah, people fall out of windows, don't they? you are there in kyiv. you have a situation in ukraine with wagner forces. let's face it, with all of the brutality were the most effective forces were really fighting there. the check forces were diverted to help putin. other resources had to be put. how might this impact the actual war on the front lines. the most able, the most competent unit among now they are gone. i think they exist as an

independent entity as a mercenary force. those 25,000 fighters, some of them will join the regular army, but some of them will go elsewhere. >> i don't think it will be easy for ukrainian forces to go forward, but it started pretty slowly a couple of weeks ago. now has a greater chance of gaining momentum and breaking through russian lines. taking back some more territory this summer which is crucial to ukraine and crucial for the partners in the u.s., the uk. they have been supplying the uk the army with weapons and tanks. >> you will be there covering it. good to see you. appreciate it. all right, next on the program, it will be a to multiple 24 hours as we have been discussing and we will show you how everyday russians in the abruptly ended insurrection. that is when we come back.

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now after wagner paramilitary chief yevgeny prigozhin agreed to leave russia and head to belarus thanks to a deal brokered by belarusian president alexander lukashenko. this video is of prigozhin leaving military med quarters of ross to recognition to have-on- in russia. russia will drop the criminal case against him and he says wagner fighters who marched towards moscow will face no legal action and can sign contracts with russia's defense ministry. the rebellion represented a huge threat to vladimir putin's grip on power and, according to ukraine's president, it even frightened him. >> i will say it in russian. the man from the kremlin is obviously very afraid and probably hiding somewhere. not showing himself. i am sure that he is no longer in moscow.

he calls somewhere and asks for something. he knows what he is afraid of because he himself created this threat. all evil, all losses, all hatred. he himself who spreads it and the longer he can run between his bunkers, the more you will all lose. everyone who is connected with russia. >> the wagner insurrection was over less than 24 hours after it began. listen now to how some russians feel about the recent developments which shook their country. >> translator: i think those people should meet and talk. we are one country and must fight together against an external enemy, and internal quarrels are totally inappropriate. >> one russian opposed to the putin government said his organization was following the abruptly ending insurrection with great interest. >> translator: the more putinists, prigozhinites, svb,

and police kill each other, the better, the less work we will have. it is also good for ukraine. it looks like a nice time to strengthen the counteroffensive. but it is for the military leadership to decide how to act in such circumstances. >> one retired u.s. general said that prigozhin's attempted insurrection divided russians and now they're arguing publicly. he says another consequence is that putin might have lost control of the flow of information inside russia. earlier, cnn's christiane amanpour interviewed nina krusteva, professor of international afairs, great granddaughter of former russian leader nikita khrushchev. she spoke about the uprising and raised serious questions about vladimir putin's grip on power. >> for the putin entourage, we've seen it. that is not a mystery that things are going badly. that is not a mystery that he's not as strong as he appears to be or says that he is. it is more important that he is

there because none of them, or so it appears, have enough power to take over and undermine the rest. so if somebody goes up, somebody goes down. and those who go down cannot afford to go down. so that has been going on. and i think that's kind of prigozhin and his -- and i'm sure the people behind him, close to putin, who was able to -- were able to take advantage of. >> that was nina khrushcheva speaking with christiane amanpour. thanks for spending time with me. i'm michael holmes. follow me @holmescnn. i'll be back with more "cnn newsroom" after a short break. (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast withth new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache paiain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! ! psst! all good!

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hello and welcome to our viewers watching us here in the united states and all around the world. i'm michael holmes. appreciate your company. we begin, of course, with the dramatic turn of events in russia. at this hour, moscow is calm as you can see there. traffic restrictions still in place on a major highway in moscow and the