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president biden is hosting president obama for lunch today. we're will they will discuss boosting democratic enthusiasm for 2024. cnn's news central starts right now.
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we have the tape. cnn exclusively obtained the audio where donald trump talks about obtaining the documents he did not declassify. plus, stranded and flustered. the fourth straight day of widespread cancellations for airline passengers. and the faa says buckle up. it's not over yet and it's not just bad weather. we'll tell you what is behind the chaos. >> you will be crushed like a bug. that was the belarusian warning to the wagner chief if his forces continue their march toward moscow. alexander lukashenko talked about the deal he made with the leader who he claim is now in belarus. we're following all the developments on these stories and much more all coming in here to cnn "news central."
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another explosive tape of donald trump in his own words now public. cnn has exclusively obtained audio of a 2021 meeting of the former president's new jersey golf club. this is a meeting that federal prosecutors have zeroed in on. trump talks about physically holding classified documents. you can hear papers rustling and trump says he no longer has the power to declassify the documents. >> isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know. except it is highly confidential, secretive -- as president i could declassify, now i can't. >> still a secret, he says. and those are some of the things that trump says in that tape that undercut his public claim as he is facing they have
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charges related to the mishandling of classified documents. we have more with sarah murray. tell us what else is on this tape. >> this is striking because donald trump is in a meeting with two writers who are writing a book for mark meadows, chief of staff. none of these people have security clearance and they're all talking very casually about this very sensitive document at a time when trump was furious with mark milley, joint chiefs of staff. >> these are bad, sick people. >> that was your coup, you know, against you. like when milley is talking about, no, they were trying to do that before you even were sworn in. >> that's right. trying to overthrow. >> with milley, let me see that. i'll show you an example. he said that i wanted to attack
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iran. isn't it amazing? i have a big pile of papers. this thing just came up. look. this was him. they presented me this. this is off the record. they presented me this. this was him. this was the defense department and him. we looked at them. this wasn't done by me. this was him. all sorts of stuff. pages long. let's see here. isn't that amazing? this totally win my case, you know. except it is highly confidential, secret. secret. look at this. >> now, trump told fox news that there was no document. that these were just magazine articles, newspaper articles, rustling around. when you listen to the time he says things i'll show you an example. and these are the papers. and we know that prosecutors have talked to mark milley as
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part of the investigation. they talked to at least one of the people who was present for that meeting. you can bet they're asking people about what sort of documents they may have seen as they're looking into this as part of the classified documents case. >> and certainly we're learning a key witness is set to be interviewed in this other part of the special counsel probe which is the part that looks to overturn the 2020 election. what can you tell us? >> we've said the special counsel is busy on that front. he is set to interview the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger. they'll be interviewing him in atlanta and we know he was on the receiving end of this call in january, 2021 from donald trump. where trump is railing about the election results, pressuring raffensperger sow find the votes needed for trump to win the state of georgia, which he, of course, lost. it's interesting because it is a little late in the game. someone like jack smith's office
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to be talking to someone like rachb entering here had such a public role in some ways, in terms of efforts to overturn the 2020 election. >> thank you. >> let's expand the conversation with cnn's senior affairs correspondent paula reid and legal analyst laura coates. you were part of the team that broke the story that jack smith had this tape in his possession. do we know yet if they have the actual document that trump was apparently referring to? >> we don't know if they ever found this particular document. we know that the trump team was subpoenaed for anything related to mark milley. they were not able to locate this so wasn't handed over from the trump team. what we do know is they're aware of the document. they have spoken to mark milley and at least one other person who was in the room for this meeting who could talk about what exactly they saw. there are other ways that they
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can trying to piece together for themselves and potentially eventually for a jury exactly what was going on here. >> laura, from a former federal prosecutor's perspective, how strong is the tape if trump is saying there was a bunch of newspapers i was waving. >> well, the transcript. now to hear the audio of this is very hard to sort of disassociate the idea of it being a document in front of him. his comments about, it wasn't a document, per se, his comments about not having it, and then hearing the actual transcript and the audio portion of it. but this is all about buttressing the otherwise evidentiary foundation of their case. about the withholding and the unlawful retainer of documents. billion conspiracy and obstruction. they have to prove the underlying charges. that there were documents that he otherwise should not have had
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in florida this is where they brought the case. the question is whether this audio is played in a florida courtroom. it is obviously in bedminster, new jersey or whether it will show his state of mind and get it in a different way. >> a former trump white house lawyer raised the question of whether this would even wind up being played in court. let's play the clip for our viewers. >> the big question is, what comes in at trial under the classified information procedures act. is this all going to be admissible? probably so. and it will be a big hurdle for them the get over. >> could the defense argue this should not be admissible? >> ununder the theory he's talking about. that's more with what evidence can come in with the jury in order to have the actual documents or some readout of the documents actually there. what i'm talking about is the
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burden of trying to get a statement, an out of court statement made, right? whether it is about hearsay or nonhearsay. how it come in to support the underlying case. everything you've ever said in your entire life, every document you want to come in doesn't always come in. the judge has a lot of power trying to decide through the motion practice what will come in and not come in. so the sepa aspect, it is what the jury might actually see but as far as what trump himself as a defend has said, won't be through that. >> trump's personal assistant, he was due in court today. he can't show up because as many have experienced in the northeast, there are airline issues, cancellations. he's due back in court july 6th but he's having issues finding an attorney. >> he does. he has an attorney paid by a
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trump-linked pac, political action committee, and he so far has not hired anyone base in the florida. at the very minimum they need someone licensed in the southern district of florida to be able to at least conduct this arraignment. there were suggestions that they would use one of former president trump's lawyers. the former solicitor general. they have not done that. it is suggested that he's still trying to find local counsel to handle this. independent of the geography, at some point, walt nauta's interests will diverge from the former president and he's been under enormous pressure to flip and at some point he has to make a decision if he wants to cooperate, and that will be pretty hard to do when your lawyer is paid for by a trump-linked political action committee. so that's a big story line. his whole legal team, not just for the geography, you need to get through the arraignment but his relationship to donald
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trump. >> quickly, your thoughts on brad raffensperger talking to the special counsel. >> unbelievable to think about. this is all part of a larger conversation. we're waiting for fanny willis. we knew raffensperger was someone completely averse to doing that which he was instructed and strong-armed to try to do. having his testimony under oath of some kind will be very important in the long run to what would come until in any trial against the former president. >> thank you. in the midst of all this, former president trump is stumping in new hampshire today and it is not just the leak tape that has him trying to put out fires. house speaker kevin mccarthy, one of trump's allies, raising doubt about 2024 prospects. >> can he win the election? yes. is he the strongest to win?
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i don't know. >> mccarthy has towed the trump line loyally since just a couple weeks after january 6th. the visit to mar-a-lago. i wonder how the trump team is reacting to mccarthy's words this time? >> reporter: the allies have been outraged. they are angry. you have to keep in mind since two weeks after january 6th when mccarthy on tape it emerged that he called for trump's resignation, he went down to mar-a-lago and he's been considered a staunch ally. on top of that, the former president believes they got mccarthy elected to the speakership. that it was trump's holding of votes that secured the speakership for him. this is the farthest we've ever seen trump go. i've been asking advisers, why is it that mccarthy hasn't
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endorsed him for 2024? they really brush that had question off time and time again. they said he had a lot of people to please. many felt that he crossed the line. >> so you have a few other candidates. ron desantis, of course, he's also taking his chances now in new hampshire. i wonder how the two are interacting and what trump has had to say about him? >> yeah. the two of them won't interact at all. they are only 42 miles apart with desantis in another part of new hampshire and this trip was not without drama. right now trump is considered the front runner. he's widely popular. there is really a question of whether or not desantis can clear his way after the perceived stumbles. new hampshire is a unique state with unique voters. they come to have a certain level of expectation from their candidates. one of the things that was
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upsetting to many voters was when desantis didn't take questions after a town hall. the other was this event today. at the same time as this event, putting out a statement saying this is unprecedented. it will compete with the former president. compete with their event. the question is whether or not he can clear a path for himself. >> new hampshire often a location for surprises. we'll see if he can deliver another one. thank you. yevgeny prigozhin, the mercenary boss behind the rush rebellion is reportedly in belarus after days of unknown whereabouts. we'll have new details on the negotiations that ended that revolt and the supreme court has just rejected a legal theory that would have radically changed u.s. elections. we'll explain that ahead. plus, through the fog of conspiracies and suspicions, the doj has released a scathing report on the death of accused sex trafficker jeffrey epstein. you're watching cnn news
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we have new details on the negotiations that ended the biggest threat to vladimir putin's rule in decades. the president of belarus, alexander lukashenko telling state media at one point on saturday, putin himself said he was not getting any responses from yevgeny prigozhin, the head of the mercenary group threatening to move on moscow. lukashenko said he told prigozhin to stand down or he would be, quote, crushed like a bug adding that prigozhin did arrive in belarus today. in the meantime, russia says it is dropping charges against prigozhin's troops, and yet putin played up the part they may have posed in praising his military forces. >> translator: real defenders of the motherland took part in fighting as comrades against this chaos, the result of which
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inevitably would have been chaos. you saved our people, our homeland virtually, you stopped a civil war. in actual fact you stopped a civil war. >> cnn's nic peyton walsh is following all of this from kyiv. what more are we learning about how this all came to resolution? >> reporter: yeah, as the sort of narrative propaganda gears of the kremlin finally after two and a half days of silence kick into gear, we're hearing a bizarre series of plan isations, repeatedly in front of troops saying that they barely seemed to get in the way of the advancing troops. that they indeed had saved the nation. saved it from civil war. going on to say that if yevgeny prigozhin had, despite his wagner operation, long for years been something moscow said it had nothing to do with, that wagner had over the last year
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alone got over a billion dollars of state money. a bizarre statement from the russian president. that is his narrative. hard to see in russia who would be buying it but then we have at times a rant from the belarusian president, alexander lukashenko that himself was regarded by vladimir putin as a subordinate. today he at great length explained his, according to him, role in stopping the events on saturday. he said he had a 30-minute plus phone call initially with yevgeny prigozhin during which he said the mercenary boss used ten times more expletives than normal words and in a series of phone calls, he said if you keep going, you'll be squashed like a bug. he told him to move to belarus for his protection and safety and to bring some of his fighters there as well. lukashenko casting himself as the hero here. some of this is pretty
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believable. it has been echoed by the kremlin, by prigozhin himself. importantly, lukashenko said that prigozhin is now in belarus. we hadn't had that confirmed by prigozhin himself but what an extraordinary end to all this. vladimir putin speaking of a parallel reality in which the military stepped forward and saved the russian people from a revolt where frankly, it appears to be the president of neighboring belarus who in fact got in the way and calmed things down, and prigozhin, a headache for vladimir putin but one that has been transferred to just across the border in belarus and it appears he won't be prosecuted and it fighters may even get to join him and be part of wagner there. a bizarre end to a very dangerous weekend for the russian head of state. >> yeah. and lukashenko is relishing this moment. we'll see if that continues. live for us from kyiv, thank you. jim? >> so what happens now? who came out on top? seth jones, director of the
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international security program at the center of strategic and international studies, and lieutenant colonel collins. i'm curious what you think happens from here. i want the play the thoughts of bill browder who helped pass the sanctions law against putin allies and has become a target himself of putin. have a listen. i want to get your reaction. >> in my opinion, the only way that putin can stay in power is for him to reassert his authority and the only way to do that is to become extremely aggressive, dangerous and violent toward all sorts of people here doesn't believe are loyal to him. so i think there will be a huge sort of purge, crackdown, whatever you want to call it, of the elite. of the government, the military, of the oligarchs for putin to reestablish his authority. >> do you see that here? an almost soviet style purge to come? >> yeah, i think that is a
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reasonable possibility, although i think it is important to understand if this were to happen, it is likely to be more than just in russia itself. the reality of prigozhin and wagner is that they are involved in a whole range of activities from site security to intelligence collection to tikritiing front companies for the extraction of resources in africa, in the middle east, in venezuela, and other places, including asia. so if there's going to be a blood bath and a reckoning, it is likely to be global in name because wagner's tentacles are much bigger than russia itself. it would be a huge gamble for putin because he may actually undermine power even more if that is the direction he goes. >> i wonder if you agree, and i'm curious what your view is the state of putin's power now. this is clearly a very public
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threat to putin's power. has he emerged, i don't know if unscathed is the word, but has he case taped unhurt? >> is this the beginning of the end of putin or is this one more of the latest examples of how putin has been able to maintain power for two plus decades. it is too early to see but clearly he doesn't have the power he once had. for weeks we've seen prigozhin very public with his criticisms and prigozhin felt bode enough to attack. so his power is not what it used to be. >> russia's security services have dropped charges for now against prigozhin and his fighters who engage. we should know they killed russian soldiers. they shot down multiple russian aircraft. does that last? are they in the clear as it were?
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can they realistically continue functions from a proposed safe haven in belarus? >> well, that's a very good question, one that i think we'll have to see how that unfolds over the next several weeks. what i will say is it is a complete capitulation to wagner. it looks like at this point, prigozhin will not be prosecuted. his contractors will be given amnesty, as you noted. that is a capitulation to an organization that just posed a reasonable threat against the kremlin. so i think if there is a next step for various elements within russia's security establishment, we know, and i've talked to some senior russian leaders on the military side. they would like to see prigozhin dead. so this is like the mafia component of the russian state and there may be reckoning by other elements of the russian security apparatus. >> when you spoke to senior, current senior russian military
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leaders, they say they want him dead. are they still loyal to putin? >> well, i think they are to some degree. these are the individuals that are close to gerasimov and shoigu. they're also the target of prigozhin. that's where some of the tension is. i would characterize this tension between the formal elements of moscow's security apparatus, that is the military, and the mafia component to the security apparatus which is the paramilitary groups like wagner. that tension, i do not think will go away. >> my colleague erin burn theett spoke to the foreign minister who said the threat to the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant remains. there is been a story of russian forces packing it with explosives as a threat to carry out an attack there. is that in your view a genuine
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threat? a russian threat of a dirty bomb? a huge one? >> i see that as unlikely. we kind of had that same rhetoric early in the war by chernobyl. the same thing. it's not in russia's interests to blow up a nuclear power plant. they have plenty of sanctions in opposition to them now. that would escalate it to a whole new level. it seems not plausible that russia is likely to do. >> colonel collins, seth jones, good to have you both on on. widespread flight cancellations stranding passengers nationwide for the fourth straight day. we're going to talk about what this means for your busy summer travel season. and for the first time in 20 years, people have been infected with malaria here in the united states. a warning from the cdc when we come back.
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today the supreme court delivering a major blow to a controversial legal theory backed by former president trump. they argued state courts have no oversight in reviewing election rules. rules we should note that would be decided by potentially
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partisan state legislatures. the theory was bolstered in the 2020 election. jessica was at the supreme court when this decision came down. put this into context for us. why is this case so important? >> this is really the supreme court working to put a preemptive stop to any potential election chaos as we head into the 2024 election cycle. what this is saying is that state lawmaker of any party, they do not have the final say in determining what election rules, election laws, even voting maps will go into effect. they do not have carte blanche to enact whatever rules they want and state courts can step in to determine what laws or rules are constitutional. this is a much different outcome than what these conservative challengers had pushed for here. conservatives, especially those backing trump in the 2020 election, backing his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, they had pushed this theory known as the independent state
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legislature theory, saying that because the federal constitution says that legislatures are the ones who are in charge of the time, place and manner of elections, that legislatures only should be able to prescribe what the rules are surrounding federal elections. the supreme court today in a 6-3 decision, chief justice john robes ying no, that isn't the case. state courts do have a role here. this is from the opinion that roberts wrote. it says state courts retain the authority to apply state constitutional restraints when legislatures act under the power conferred upon them by the elections clause. and he did continue to explain how his historically state courts, federal courts, they have routinely stepped in to put constraints on state legislature, or even a federal legislature, if they enact certain laws. the power of the courts to review these laws. this is a decision that no doubt has been celebrated by voting rights groups wefrlt even saw
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the former president, barack obama, celebrating this decision from this ur barack obama wrote this. he said, they rejected the fringe indepennt state legislature theory that threatened to upend our democracy and dismantle our system of checks and balances by gig state legislatures near total control of federal election laws. this is a resounding election of the far right theory that has been peddled by election deniers here. in this opinion, the chief justice in writing it did say that state courts don't have, quote, free reign, putting some information in there about maybe federal courts reviewing state court decisions. so while this does sort of put the kabosh on free reign for state legislatures, there could be some litigation in the future depending on how state courts step in when it comes to elections. there will be further litigation. at least for the 2024 election,
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things be this chaos free. >> some foreshadowing go from the chief justice. knew some big ones coming up in the next few days. >> by the end of the week, likely. this week, severe summer storm are wreaking havoc across parts of the u.s. that includes causing quite a mess at some of the busiest airports in the nation. thousands of flights have been canceled or delayed all over the country today and it is the fourth straight day that passengers have been stranded. united airlines hit especially hard here. now the company is pointing fingers at the faa. >> we have pete monday tan joining us. it looked like summer travel was off to a decent start. but here we are. >> here we are. and it's all new york, new york, new york. that's where the problems are. and the faa just put in place a ground stop at laguardia. so stopping flights going to the airport and also a ground delay
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program for flights going to newark and this is having this nationwide trickle down effect. and we know when there are big delays and big cancellations, it takes airlines days to recover. i just checked flight aware. 1105 cancellations. united taking it really hard on the chin. 533 delays. 402 cancellations. we're talking about a 2 in every 10 of its flights. 1 in 5. that's a big impact. the real issue is this is really impacting newark, new jersey, and that is a place where so many flights fly in and out of. we are seeing people sleeping on the ground, in cots as far as denver. they can't get hotels. the united ceo came out pretty hard against the faa in a memo last nig, an internal memo. he said the fast frankly failed us this ekend. he points to these problems at faa, air traffic control facilities on saturday and
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sunday. really compounded by the weather. so we're layer upon layer of issue here. and he said that really led to massive delays, cancellations, diversions, as well as crews and aircraft out of position. so we're seeing the deck of cards coming tumbling down. and let's set this against the back drop of what will be a huge weekend for summer travel, july 4th right around the corner. the tsa says on friday there will be so many people flying. about 2.8 million people. >> and these are the airports that have been affected. so huge problems with newark and united but this is the triple down as well. >> and the fast says these the places where we could see bad weather impact today. not only is it new york but also, all the way to boston. we're talking going the d.c. area as well. even all the way down into florida. so we see they happen in this really widespread way even when there is a problem at one place. >> july 4th though will be --
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>> well, the weather will be good for the next couple days. wednesday, thursday look pretty good on the east coast. summer storms can cause everything to come tumbling down so quickly. >> i'm not going to travel. i'm going to solve the problem. >> i'll be working. >> for myself and others. i'll be working, too. hopefully we won't be talking about problems. we wish the best for people. >> yeah. those airports look scary. dangerously high temperatures have millions of people across the south under heat alerts now. the summer swelter could get even worse. and the justice department tears into the bureau prisons of over jeffrey epstein's death. the ultimate failures that made his suicide possible.
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here's a look at some of the other headlines we're following this hour on cnn news central. over 20% of the u.s. population are forecast to see high temperatures, possibly more than 100 degrees over the course of the next week. look at that map. the national weather center service has issued warnings for dallas, baton rouge and new orleans where they expect the heat index could reach 120 degrees. also a warning to public health officials about locally acquired cases of malaria. there hasn't been a case of malaria transmit inside the u.s. in 20 years. 95% of mosquito-spread illness are found in africa. this summer, four people in florida and one in texas seemed to acquire the disease locally in the u.s. the cases do not seem to be
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related to each other. the cdc said all the patients are in treatment and improving. prosecutors plan to seek the death penalty for bryan kohberger, the man accused of killing four university students last november. they said it met the requirement for the death penalty given the atrocious nature of the crime. they looked at the mitigating situation. there is a request to delay the proceedings. we'll stay on top of it. nearly four years after jeffrey epstein died in a new york jail cell, a new doj report issues a scathing rebuke of the bureau of prisons. the details are multiple failures that led to emseen the's suicide. for the first time we're seeing photos of his cell. some people may find them
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disturbing so we want to warn you first. he was found with a noose around his neck just weeks after he was arrested on charges of sex trafficking with minors. his death sparked a rash of unfounded conspiracy theories. this doj report found no evidence of criminality. now live, bring us up to speed on the details in this report. do you think it will be enough to finally stop the incessant questions rounding his death? >> reporter: that is the big question here. conspiracy theories have been abounds since he died. in 2019, just hours after he was arrested on these charges. what this report finds is that looking at the evidence they uncovered, the problems here began several weeks before emseen the's death. that it was even in late july
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where he was found lying on the floor of his cell with an orange cloth around his neck. it was then that the psychiatry department said he needed to have a cell mate. it turned out that just before he died, he did not have a cell mate in his cell. that person was transferred out and they didn't replace him. that enabled them, the situation and the opportunity that this report found that created the ability for emseen the to then die by suicide. he was also able to stockpile bed linens. you can see from the photo of his cell that was taken the day he was found, he has numerous orange bed linens, blankets, sheets, that they said he was able to fasten into nooses. more than one that he was able to use to hang himself. the guards who were supposed to be doing 30-minute checks. he was in a special housing unit known as the shu. this determined that beginning at 10:40 p.m. on that night before, until 6:30 a.m. when he
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was discovered, they didn't do any checks and the guards had falsified records to suggest that they were. so a number of shortcomings. they didn't have video in place to give a live feed into the area where the guards were, where they should have been able to see if the video was working, what he was up to in that cell. so a lot of issues there. the big question of the criminality. it showed there were no defensive wounds from the medical examiner's report. no evidence of a struggle. the report finds that all prison staff members interviewed by the oig said they didn't know of any information suggesting that the cause of death was something other than suicide. likewise, none of the inmates provided any information that epstein's cause of death was anything other than suicide. the problems really hurt the victims of that scene because they weren't able to get justice. >> such an important point. thank you so much. in canada, it is officially the worst wildfire season on record. and we're only at the beginning
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part of the great lakes region getting a new whiff of dangerous wildfire smoke today. look at milwaukee. that's milwaukee, that's not
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just a gray screen, that is what they are dealing with there. wildfires in canada keep burning and sending smoke down into the midwest. air quality alerts they are in effect for several great lakes states. we have cnn's adrienne broaddus who is in chicago for us. these pictures, unbelievable, coming out of milwaukee where you can barely see the stadium where the brewers are normally playing. when is this expected to abate? >> reporter: it's expected to dissipate by tomorrow at midnight, that's central standard time. brianna, that's according to the national weather service, but if you are here in chicago walking downtown not only can you see it, if we move positions you can see the smoke filling the sides of the building. you can smell it. you can taste it. i spoke a short time ago with juan rojas, a lung doctor here in town at rush university medical center and he says the air quality here in chicago right now ranks among the world's worst. he's been practicing here for a
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long time and he says he's always concerned about his patients, but never has he had to worry about the air quality here in chicago, but it's not just here in chicago, it's also across the great lakes region. so if you are in this area or in the great lakes region, doctors are warning to limit your activity outside. take a short walk instead of a long run or a bike ride. it's the summer in chicago, but it's gray and hazy here today, brianna. >> yeah, maybe it is the time for some indoor activities there in the midwest in these places affected by this. adrienne broaddus live for us in chicago. thanks for the report. jim? ahead we are getting one side of the story, how the belarus president said he stopped the russian result and where he says the wagner boss is right now. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the tempur-breeze feels s up to 10° cooler, all night long. for a limited time, save $500 on all-new tempur-breezeze mattresses.
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